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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/3/2010 1:41:16 PM   
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Well, with your present position on the high seas uncontestable for another year, I would change my strategy now once more:  recuperate KB, and take the opportunity to perform some more offensive actions, from port raids, more convoy battles with surface raiders, and most importantly:  I would consider to employ your LCU in offensive options once again?  The question: where?  And with what specific goal(s)?  Harm allied infrastructure, grep points?  Establish new forward bases?

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/3/2010 2:05:48 PM   
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I'm not playing for points, so any offensives for this purpose are right out. Besides, with difference of only 2.2:1 (mostly due to severe air and cargo shipping losses), a point victory is practically impossible. I'd also prefer to conserve my carrier aviation and to avoid exposing flight decks to danger more than necessary. There just aren't any more targets that might justify losses associated with a strike against a major Allied port, and carrier convoy hunting aren't likely to net (comparatively to effort) much in the new conditions (because, again, Yubari will likely abandon huge convoys for a time). As about new invasions, they are limited both by damage done to my naval aviation, and by ground forces availability. So, really big moves, like invasion of Ceilon, are likely to be out of question for long enough to give Allies enough time to patch up any holes in their defences.

I'm still considering my options, beyond the obvious. Besides already-mentioned Line Islands and eastern Aleutians, taking the entire Northern Australia might be an option, depending on whether I can finish Andamans or at least ensure isolation of remaining garrizons in a reasonable time frame. Yubari is putting pressure on me in New Guinea. Before this battle I was inclined to leave Port Moresby and Horn Island to be flattened by Allied airpower and to defend by contesting eventual invasions of these points from second-line airbases, primarily Lae-Nadzab. A succesful move to Northern Australia might be able to make my likely failure to hold Torres Strait safely closed a moot point and to provide Japan with a good forefield in the future.

Ultimately, all those moves are meant to fulfill my strategic goal #2, creation of a strong, easily defended perimeter. I also need to rethink my perimeter priorities, as now I'm not likely to face big naval invasions until well into 1944.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/3/2010 3:01:16 PM   
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I would think that with your perimeter made secure for a year by your naval victory, this is the ideal time to put you LCUs to good use. An interesting idea would be to use your Southern Area Army, or a massive chunk of it, to launch a second offensive in China. You could land it in Vietnam and from there via Nanning unhinge all his southern defence, even threatening Changsha.. It would give you more breathing space for later in the game... An exposed southern China once the Allies have conquered Burma is deadly for the Japanese.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/7/2010 12:04:31 PM   
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Yubari just wrote me, saying that he decided to throw in the towel. Dang. That's the second time my opponent gives up before 1943. I don't believe anyone alse will want to take up such a challenge (I would have liked to try playing Allies from this point myself, but I cannot unlearn the Japanese password).

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/7/2010 1:33:39 PM   
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See if anyone will take his place.  I'd hate to see this AAR end.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/7/2010 5:43:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FatR

Yubari just wrote me, saying that he decided to throw in the towel. Dang. That's the second time my opponent gives up before 1943. I don't believe anyone alse will want to take up such a challenge (I would have liked to try playing Allies from this point myself, but I cannot unlearn the Japanese password).


If you know a friendly developer it may be possible to change the password

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/7/2010 6:30:02 PM   
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I don't know any friendly developers... can you advise, whom I may ask?

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/7/2010 8:28:24 PM   
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If you can find a replacement player, have him contact yubari to get the password.

Edit: Forget it. I just saw what you really wrote.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/7/2010 8:36:22 PM   
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Hey man, they're all friendly

They have to have the version of the game you are using so MichaelM, BigJ62 who are actively involved in patches would be good choices. You may have to patch to the latest version if they don't have to old version (so you may need to upgrade and play another turn).

If you PM them and explain how far along you are and that you want to swap sides someone may be able to do something.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/7/2010 8:59:11 PM   
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A shame it may end, but congrats on your victory!

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/7/2010 9:04:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

If you can find a replacement player, have him contact yubari to get the password.

Edit: Forget it. I just saw what you really wrote.

Well, I won't mind continuing as Japanese as well, of course. Just I don't think anyone will be willing to pick up Allies at this point. All players who are highly likely to destroy me, like Nemo, are busy and aren't likely to be interested in this mod as well. But I'll post a call on the forum tomorrow.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/8/2010 4:59:38 AM   
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I just got caught up reading the AAR. Your battle in the IO was nearly identical to mine. NUTS! Within a month of each other, same scenario, same location, (more or less) same result: CRAZY!

BANZAI to the victory, however, try to convince your opponent to stick around. He'll get plenty more pretty ships to use...


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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/10/2010 2:28:19 PM   
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Bigred asked if he can take command of the Allied side before I managed to do anything, and I agreed.

He also asked to play without houserules, except for limiting availability of late-war carrier Zero versions, to compensate for their greater speed. I agreed too. This is going to be interesting, definitely. I would have been reluctant to ask for this myself, as this - particularly the ability to move restricted units across borders - can make things almost too easy for Allies. So, stay tuned for updates. I need to examine new realities and see what I can do to avert the horrible doom now avaiting the Empire in CBI theatre.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/12/2010 9:56:55 AM   
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June 26-27

The main event:
Ground combat at Lahaina (182,108)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 55431 troops, 707 guns, 273 vehicles, Assault Value = 1744
Defending force 21024 troops, 524 guns, 916 vehicles, Assault Value = 402
Japanese adjusted assault: 1373
Allied adjusted defense: 653
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Lahaina !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
2917 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 140 disabled
Non Combat: 50 destroyed, 95 disabled
Engineers: 32 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 56 (51 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
10695 casualties reported
Squads: 523 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1511 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 256 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 765 (765 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1053 (1053 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 16

Assaulting units:
1st Mobile Engineer Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
18th Division
5th Division
20th Engineer Regiment
17th Infantry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
38th Division
48th Division
4th Division
40th Brigade
77th Infantry Regiment
65th Naval Guard Unit
27th Electric Engineer Regiment
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
298th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
54th Coastal Artillery Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
276th Coastal Artillery Battalion
2nd Marine Raider Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
208th Coast AA Regiment
102nd USN Base Force
46th Construction Regiment
118th USAAF Base Force
43rd Construction Regiment
197th Coast AA Regiment
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
811th Engineer Aviation Battalion
111th USN Base Force
223rd Field Artillery Battalion

Finally! The attack was quite close, but thankfully ended up on the right side of adjusted AV. Real american troops sure are well-armed - that's the biggest harvest of guns and vehicles so far in the war. Japanese soldiers were suprised to find, though, that their enemies didn't have much supply left. But at least trophies were enough to make a good dinner for the survivors of the final assault, the first one they had in three weeks.
Among the participating Japanes units, 17th Regiment (now officially the most unlucky regiment of the Japanese army, assignment to which probably is a form of punishment already) 1st Mobile Engineers, and 20th Engineers are wasted. The rest have significant disablements, but retain 84% or more of their TOE.

In other news, Nagatos' battleship division somehow reacted to tiny Allied TFs that were doing something south of Ceilon on 27th, and ended in 7 hexes south of Trincomalee! Good thing that Allied aviation didn't fly that day.

Great reorganization and reallocation of forces according to the new strategic priorities has started, more on that when I have time.


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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/12/2010 10:05:13 AM   
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Good job!  And good luck against BigRed -- I hope he hasn't studied your AAR in detail or else he may know where your present weaknesses are.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/12/2010 1:33:45 PM   
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Changes At The Top

One immediate result of the destruction of the Allied carrier fleet (as well as, although to a much lesser extent, the fall of Lahaina) is a massive gain of face by IJN leadership and their close political allies in the Southern Army command. With Yamamoto and his clique now enjoying nearly absolute domination at home, sweeping changes are ordered to Japanese forces deployment across several theatres.

Primalily, Kwantung Army is gutted, with removal of the four best infantry divisions, most of its logistical train, and practically all motorized, heavy weapons, antiaircraft and construction troops outside of divisional commands. The plans for invasion of USSR are canned indefinitely, or at least until Germans reach Archangelsk/Astrachan line, which, by the looks of it, isn't goint to happen any time soon.

These troops, except for 12th Division, and elements of 2nd Tank Division, about to be deployed to Burma/Andamans theatre, will be first used to break the stalemate at Sian.

I actually thought long and hard about the place in China where I can use the influx of new troops for maximal effect, before Burma is overran by Allies. I contemplated an immediate move through south, to establish a direct land line of communication ASAP, or a sucker punch to Changsha. Unfortunately, the former is too likely to bog down in rough terrain, assuming my new opponent does not make too much mistakes, and Chahgsha seems to be guarded too well.
So, instead of trying to fight on two fronts, I'm going to resolve the situation on one of them with overwhelming force.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/13/2010 7:22:48 PM   
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June 28-30

Reverse at Andamans: On 30th, Bigred attempted to take a shot at Combined Fleet, which was passing the northern tip of Sumatra, nursing damaged Zuiho home, and also placing SCTFs into the starting position for naval bombardments run against Trinkat and Car Nicobar tomorrow. At the same time, KB pilots decided to join the fun when new sweeps and raids agains these island were contested. I lost 10 Zero and 3-4 carrier pilots, but Allied airforce got butchered horribly both on defense and on offense. Their escorts failed to fly, strikes were too few, and only one Avenger broke to Nagato to be immediately blown away by concentrated flak.

Preparing for counter-counter-counterinvasion: I want the much-contested Trinkat to change hands again, but after recon found about 10 units there, I decided not to invade right away. First I'll wait for the Imperial Guards brigade, and then land with over 1.5 Divisions. Hopefully the bombardment tomorrow will give useful intelligence about the Allied units there.

Stratbombing problems: Looks like it is not that easy to hit industry with targeted attacks. Manpower hits are easily scored, but don't seem to have much of effect on anything. At the moment I'm hitting light industry at Pearl at day, targets across Bengalia, mostly with night attacks, and cities in Southern China.

Well this certainly makes life easier: Bigred doesn't have the same convoy discipline as Yubari. My subs and a merchant raider off Western Coast hit a few unescorted xAKs and xAKLs over the few days.

What they are doing there? Allied bomber and auxilary squadrons at Pearl suddenly swelled with planes. I do believe, this is a big mistake on Bigred's part... The best he could hope to accomplish is attritional air grind, which he's positioned to lose, now that I own so many airfields around Pearl.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/14/2010 8:41:24 PM   
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Overall Situation at the Beginning Of July

Once again I'm too short of time to make an entire monthly update at once...

But anyway, situation suddenly started looking much less grim for the Empire. With the naval dominance secured, Japan will shift to the offensive stance at DEI-Andamans theatre, starting the counteroffensive from Trinkat (likely to be attacked within the next 10 days). Actual invasion of Pearl also now looks doable.

Here's the victory screen for the moment:




Four Japanese pilots became aces today. This attempt to strike at KB was a really rash move for Bigred.


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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/14/2010 8:51:37 PM   
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Burma-Andamans Theatre

Recon had detected fairly significant forces on all four islands. I'm likely to get more intel on them from naval bombardments today. Allies must have semi-decent forts everywhere already, so the campaign still isn't going to be a cakewalk.

KBs will continue their retreat down the Strait of Malacca. Starting from the next day, the main KB will leave for Singapore, letting crippled Zuiho to limp there by herself.

Damage to Victoria Point was only just repaired on the last day of June, and Trinkat isn't repaired yet. As both bases had several dozens of engineers, and some engineer vehicles, this makes me worried about my perspectives late in the war...






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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/15/2010 1:14:21 PM   
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Southern DEI-Australia

All quiet. I'm pondering the invasion of Broome, as a means of securing the sealane for resource extraction from Port Hedland.




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/15/2010 1:20:10 PM   
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Soutwestern Pacific

The Japanese main line of defence is established from Tulagi-Lunga base cluster, through Milne Bay area to Lae-Nadzab cluster. Port Moresby and Horn Island are forward bases with small numbers of engineers and air support, but enough infantry and artillery to prevent taking them on cheap. Rabaul is established as a hub base.

No Allied activity in the region is observed since Bigred took over. In fact, Allies seem to be evacuated their forward bases in Australia from which Yubari threatened Horn Island.




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/18/2010 6:38:57 PM   
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Continuing the report...

China

Chinese seem to be retreating from Sian into the mountains. I cannot be sure that this is not an attempt to pull out some starved units, though, so the operation against Sian continues as planned.

Siege of Shanghai was abandoned by the enemy. At least this will allow me to resume production there.

Totally forgot to make a map screenshot of the Chinese front - will add it in the next update.


Hawaii

Pearl is besieged. Bigred tried to make a few of the auxilaries there run for their lives. One might even escape from Betties. He also allowed squadrons trapped on Oahu to replenish planes, with predictably bad results for the Allies.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/18/2010 6:48:08 PM   
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Ship Losses and Ship Situation

Weeell... as you already know, Allied fleet just got crushed. Their surface combatants are in better shape that their near-completely annihilated carrier arm, but in this area I too now hold superiority, despite even bugs that make 4 CAs temporarily unarmored and Yamato unable to reload her front turrers.

Japanese lost 4 CVLs or potential CVLs at the moment, plus 3 CLs and not-too-big bunch of smaller ships. Merchant marine was hit pretty hard, primarily by enemy surface raiders, but I still have enough for my needs and can even allow converting all Yusen-classes ships to AKs without jeopardizing resource transportation from DEI.

I've accelerated CVL Ibuki. So all Japanese carriers worth building will be available by the end of November of 1943.




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/18/2010 6:53:10 PM   
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Detailed Air Losses

Japanese losses are brutal, and continue mounting due to active bombing operations, but bearable. Situation also will improve with the Allied carrier fleet out of the picture for the time being. Note, also, that my planes still fly more sorties per loss than Allied ones.

Even with production of B5N1 resumed (until engines are used up), I don't have enough planes to fully restock my carriers at the moment. Nettie forces also are understrength. Other branches have enough planes.




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/18/2010 7:05:22 PM   
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Pilot Losses and Pilot Situation

The last month cost me almost 1/4th of the losses for the entire war. Thankfully, first batches of high-quality naval pilots just graduated from IJNAF units at Home Islands, so at least my carrier forces will be able to replenish their losses at Ceilon and have some reserve. Land-bases IJN units still are mostly out of luck and still are forced to pull newbies from replacements and train them themselves, whenever opportunity arises.

IJAAF pilot situation remains passable. I've decided to train all level bomber crews on GrdB, LowN and ASW equally. Separating bomber pilots with different skillsets, depending on the specialization of their unit, manually is pain in the ass. GrdB training will be somewhat reduced (to 50-60 in this skill, instead of 60+), as it is either relatively easy to improve in the field, by just flying ground attack missions, or not as useful.





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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/18/2010 7:11:55 PM   
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Industry

Resource and supply levels are finally climbing. Fuel and oil still are drying up, but I hope that reduction in massive fleet operations will be able to make the Empire fuel-positive.

Vehicles production still seems to be insufficient. Naval shipyards started producing surplus after I de-accelerated the final Shokaku-Kai carrier and accelerated Ibuki instead.




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/18/2010 7:15:25 PM   
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The chart speaks for itself.




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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/18/2010 7:28:02 PM   
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Heroes of the Empire

Well, those are always easier to find after a great victory. But above others I'd like to nominate:

SS I-154 for launching the most important torpedo attack in the war and enabling the Decisive Battle (tm) to happen and to be won by damaging Enterprise.

CA Mogami for sinking Illustrious and sealing the fate of Indomitable, thus deciding the outcome of the second day of the Battle of Ceilon. That despite facing a numerous Allied force with just one destroyer as an escort. Admiral Nishimura's daring action will not be forgoten as long as there is naval history.

A special prize goes to Hosho-1 Zero squadron, as the luckiest squadron of the Combined Fleet, with kill-to-loss ratio of 20:1 and, IIRC, no killed pilots to this date.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/20/2010 8:18:49 PM   
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July 1-5, 1942

The Long Way Home Completed: Zuiho successfully reached Singapore without meaningful intereference from enemy subs (they are out there, but ASW kept them down). Now almost the entire Combined Fleet is gathered there. Shokaku and Zuikaku were ordered to upgrade, because I don't have planes to bring every squadron to full strength right now, and because I really want radars they get with this upgrade. Besides, with the Allied carrier fleet gone, I can support operation in Andamans with just a half of KB.

Routine Action: Bigred actively uses his fighters to defend Great Nicobar and Trinkat. There were many tactical battles, with about even A2A losses. Of course, this sort of attrition favors Japanese at the moment, even if I lose more pilots.
Meanwhile, air war at Burma heats up. My handful of Tojos (still surviving from the onset of hostilities) are successfully fighting off small daytime B-17 raids over Mandalay, while Allied night raiders managed to inflict minor damage on oil in Magwe, in part because my nightfighing Nicks are not too keen on flying. In return, we seriously damaged Ledo refinery.
Still, at the moment, my strategic bombing in Bengalia is more like pinprick and diversion raids (I placed 1st Ku equipped with G3M3, to threaten alot of bases), than a serious campaign. Burma is short on supply, and therefore Oscars have problems with escorting bombers to nearly all of the juicy targets... I'm targeting refineries and light industry, but not heavy industry, to impact supply production and to increase the fuel shortage in India.
Either way, these battles produced two first IJAAF aces.

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RE: Ocean of Blood. FatR (J) vs. yubari (A) - no yubari... - 12/23/2010 8:20:37 PM   
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July 6-11, 1942

Arrival of the Next Generation: Tojo IIa accelerated to August on July 11. I immediately switched all research facilities to IIb. With 100 research units, I hope to accelerate the final Tojo model by at least 6 months. By stats Ki-44-IIc can hope to be at least equal to any Allied fighter of that period, except Thunderbolt, this will change from 43/11, but any period of not being totally outclassed will be much appreciated.
I also ponder if I should abandon research of minor planes that have little hope of being accelerated and put it into land-based naval fighters, that thankfully aren't covered by the houserule that pushes carrier-based Zeros to their historical dates of availability.
Meanwhile, on Allied side Lightnings made their debut over Andamans, but against much more numerous enemy they lost 3 of their numbers for 2 Zeros.

Air Action: Quite a bit of relatively minor engagements over Andamans, Burma and Portlands Road in Northeastern Australia. Generally Japanese are coming on top, as, unlike Yubari, Bigred cedes initiative to me so far, so I can choose where to engage, and makes more mistakes as well. Just the last turn my bombers inflicted heavy damage to Allied bomber force at Dacca, destroying about 11 planes on ground. The sole present Allied fighter squadron apparently was on night CAP.

Sub Action: Allied subs hit several ships around Milne Bay and at Aleutians, sinking one xAK. In return, two subs were bombed out at Pearl (either they were cripples, or Bigred did a mistake by disbanding them into the port, and one lost to mines in Merak.
In return, Japanese subs damaged BB Ramillies (one torp) and sank several merchants.

Surface Action: Foray to Andamans by demi-KB and a bombardment SCTF proved to be fruitless, because I accidentally messed up settings for bombardment. A xAKL and a motor launch were sunk by Vals at Great Nicobar, and that's all.
Meanwhile, the Trinkat invasion force amasses at Georgetown and waits for arrival of newly converted AKs.

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