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new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/26/2010 10:14:08 PM   
krupp_88mm


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Status: offline 		cool game, will the future expansions tie in with the first release?, i would really like to see all the campaigns of future releases tie together and some a-historical ones thrown in for fun, maybe even a branching tree where the commander can influence decisions on campaigns for instance whether or not to engage in kursk early or late
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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/26/2010 10:40:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Krupp,

We haven't decided yet regarding whether the releases would tie together, but I can confirm that the future release will have campaigns like this one as well as separate scenarios and some smaller battles. You bring up some good food for thought though, a way to link them all together would be very cool if possible.

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/26/2010 11:12:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		How about Case Green, the invasion of Czechoslovakia? Or Norway? How cool...

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/26/2010 11:20:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Any possibility to have an editor just to do scenarios limited in the game context? For example, it could be possible to do a small scenario "the drive to the Channel coast" and not to do 1944 scenarios with Allies in France or Soviets in Poland...

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/26/2010 11:35:05 PM   
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How about Case Green, the invasion of Czechoslovakia? Or Norway? How cool...


Norway would be cool. really

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/27/2010 12:19:12 AM   
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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/27/2010 12:29:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Erik - I just registered after following this site for years. I just have to say what an amazing game this is! I am truly in wargaming heaven! Can you give any hints on what we can expect to see next in the series? I will play the hell out of this game, but I have to admit after seeing what a masterpiece the new engine is, I cant help to think about taking it to the Russian Front next.

I bought Disaster on the Donets last week(good game), not knowing that this was around the corner... Well, I don't regret getting it, but you know what I'm playing now, and what I will be playing for the foreseeable future!

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/27/2010 12:43:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree, Norway would be cool. I see this game and it's future scenarios as a playground for WW2's less "popular" battles and the Invasion of Norway definitely fits that mold.

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/28/2010 4:43:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yep Norway, but perhaps gibraltar as a campaign which was always a thorn in the Germa side. A campaign what if simialr to sea lion would be interesting. The Germans did have a plan to invade Gibraltar if Spain was unwilling to let the germans go trhu their territory. Just not sure what defenses the Brits have besides airpower and naval strength. See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Felix



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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/28/2010 5:27:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		With this engine dont have east title is a crime

I think that they have 2 choices, or follow a timeline or release titles based on demand... i really prefer see something in the east, maybe Barbarossa as full campaign (until the start of 1942) with the diferent fronts (north, central, south) as scens and then divided in other sub scens pre Typhoon and Typhoon... we have 1 big campaign, 3 sub campaings, and 6 scens (can add other smaller). Other option is do a pack with Norway+Balcans+Greek front and add south France in 1940 as bonus... well, are many options with the game scale.

Maybe if they dont have any plan do a post to vote could be great, first vote front, when we have a winner vote something more specific

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/28/2010 5:36:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm hoping to see lots of smaller scenarios - two just isn't enough. Lots of people love the smaller ones, and they are good to learn by playing. It also allows you to explore historical events that you probably won't see in the larger scenarios because the same situation won't happen. Drive to the channel was mentioned above, and would be great!

I hope to see lots of these developed and put out, as well as the larger ones of course.  I'm just getting into the game, so far so good.  It's taking some getting used too - but Vic has another winner on his hands!


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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/28/2010 6:14:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Smaller scenarios are the way to go for me to. Norway would be interesting but the Campaign in the Balkans, and any in the Pacific, would interest me more. Anyone for Campaigns from the Spanish Civil War? I would LOVE to see those.

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/28/2010 6:55:10 PM   
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Smaller scenarios are the way to go for me to.


Why do you want to limit this game?

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Norway would be interesting but the Campaign in the Balkans, and any in the Pacific, would interest me more.


Yes, especially the Chinese-Japanese or Burma theatre.
I'd like to see the Africa Campaign as well, few divisions, a lot of territory, supply line very important and an interesting air warfare phase...surely it will be a challenge


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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/28/2010 7:38:36 PM   
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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/28/2010 11:29:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I second the Invasion of Norway. Now that would be most excellent.

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/28/2010 11:49:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		i think north Africa Mediterranean, would work out fairly well, especially their might be some interesting card / strategic options, just think of an entire North africa campaign from 1941-1943, alot of what ifs, and ahistorical options based on success/ failure, also it would be the only other logical option if you were to link campaigns as opposed to the other obvious and also very good , but audacious easternfront choice, just imagine how man hexes an entire easternfront would be 1000?, would be awesome for multiplayer though could have one player control leach army group

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/29/2010 12:11:05 AM   
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whoops wrong forum lol

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/29/2010 6:03:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Blind Sniper

I would not want to limit the game, fair comment mind, but I find it difficult to keep track of all my units in the full campaign. Having subordinate units highlighted when choosing a HQ unit would help here. I could manage my forces HQ by HQ.

Just to be clear, I want BIG scenarios too, but need help from the game to manage my forces as it stands at present.

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/29/2010 6:17:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I vote for North Africa 1940-1943, no doubt!

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/29/2010 6:43:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		If the Eastern Front is planned my suggestion is to scale up to corps level (with the divisions forming the components and being transferrable) to keep things more manageable - and in recognition of the fact that there is already a division level Eastern Front Monster in the release cue for Matrix.

Corps level Eastern Front has been a huge gap in the pc game lineup with the sole exception of the very old WIR.

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/29/2010 8:06:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd like to have an extra scenario in this game. A French Saar offensive with (off course) the option to do a real attack on the Siegfried line (not the halfhearthed historical one).

We have the map and the OOB already. Could a relatively easy addition.

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/30/2010 2:31:08 AM   
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The Italian invasions of France, Albania and Greece, maybe Somaliland 1940
Denmark/Norway Operation
A Hypo-German/Czech conflict in 1938
Slovak–Hungarian War 1939
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak%E2%80%93Hungarian_War
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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/30/2010 6:05:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		France 1944 is a better choice for the next release to avoid the direct comparison with Garys Grisgby monster Eastern Front game.

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/30/2010 9:35:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just brain storming here.

Would it be possible to add a strategic layer based on a 'dynamic' card system to keep it simple?  The player would decide where to attack or defend at army group level and there would be a set of possible scenarios built to fit within each situation (e.g. Player chooses the card "AGN to advance on Leningrad Military District", which is only available if Leningrad is still in Soviet hands - then the game engine picks from available scenarios in that 'folder').  Some will have the Soviets defending, some counterattacking.

This would require a player ability to edit the OOB between scenarios - e.g. to shift panzer divs to the south for the next phase/season.  Withdraw for refit?  Other?

Maybe a user scenario editor could be released that allows users to add scenarios only within the scope of those strategic 'sectors'...?

If that could work, then why not add a card system for economic and diplomatic decisions as well?  In the distant future lol...

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/30/2010 10:30:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Alan, I was joking and I think you are right, a better tracking system would be nice 

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/30/2010 10:41:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, is obvious that an east title will receive a direct comparison with Garys Grisgby Eastern Front game but both games are different and see another Normandy title is


I prefer see for west a patch game with south France where we can see the missing Italian front for 1940, balcans (if we have italians we can have Greece) and can add Creta as bonus... total 4-5 scens + variants and Norway and Finland winter war are in the air... but i really prefer an east title and Barbarossa is a good option.

This depends of people taste but i think that the next title need cover something "exotic" or a good east front campaign, another Normandy or Bulge title is only another game of Normandy or Bulge more





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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/30/2010 3:27:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I guess Hexagon is right.  Personally, I've been waiting so long for WitE that I really want to play that and I can't see myself playing an East front version of DC-WtP in the same year.  The Balkans plus Crete and N Africa could be a good mix...  I wonder how the naval aspects will be modeled?

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/30/2010 6:01:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great game, Vic! I would like to see this great work continue! Thanks...

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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/30/2010 6:26:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm guessing Vic just might keep on going chronologically.  How about North Africa, and forward?  I'll tell you one hypothetical I'd love to see, what if Hitler got tired of Franco playing him, and invaded Spain and took out Gibraltar? I've done that in SC, but at this level it would be very cool! 

I doubt the game engine is ready for the pacific, unless there's lots here I haven't seen. The whole naval issue would be huge, so for now I'm betting he sticks with the ETO (though you could do some cool stuff with Burma and China maybe?)

Either way, we're off to a good start, and I for one have a lot to learn about this new and challenging system! Thanks Vic!!


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RE: new scenarios in the plannig? - 8/30/2010 6:43:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would like a Norway scenario but I suspect that will also require Denmark to be covered as well.

Also, instead of the campaign being three separate scenarios, can we have a complete western European map that allows us to move units and fight between fronts etc?

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