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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/6/2010 7:25:58 PM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/6/2010 10:53:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Alfred,

I never made it even close to FM, IM, or GM, but I know what I am talking about and you are over-blowing your claim.

In your original post on it you asserted that whenever an internationally rated player made a technically fatal error against another internationally rated player that it was, in fact, fatal. That is not so. Players at that level also sometimes make the error of failing to see and/or take advantage of all the fatal errors their opponent makes. Not all are recognized at the board. There are books of analysis with plenty of examples.

The better the players/opponents, the smaller and less frequent the mistakes they make or that they can get away with. But they do make mistakes, and they do not always pay by losing the game for fatal errors. Obviously I am not talking about dropping a queen or a rook here.

A draw is sometimes the result of no sufficient mistakes made on either side, and sometimes the result of neither player actually taking advantage of technically sufficient mistakes made by the opponent.

It really just isn't true to assert that technically fatal errors at high-level international chess are always taken advantage of. Usually, yes. Always, no.

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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/6/2010 11:14:07 PM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/6/2010 11:16:26 PM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/6/2010 11:35:30 PM   
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I thought the same thing!

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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/7/2010 12:17:16 AM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/7/2010 3:01:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nor did I say originally that a single subtle mistake guaranteed chess defeat, merely that it would suffice. That statement is correct. The word guaranteed was only attached to AE play and was not intended to equally apply to chess.

The arguments marshalled are all based on inaccurately played games. There are many inaccurate games played between GMs, particularly as the playing skill and strength of GMs varies quite markedly. It still doesn't change the fact that a single subtle positional mistake will suffice to allow the opponent to win, ceterus paribus, another term often employed in the chess world.

Notwithstanding the views of the gallery, one needs to stop the hijack of this thread. A new and dedicated thread would be necessary to properly discuss the merits between chess and AE.

Alfred

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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/7/2010 3:26:50 AM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/7/2010 5:35:13 AM   
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Nor did I say originally that a single subtle mistake guaranteed chess defeat, merely that it would suffice. That statement is correct. The word guaranteed was only attached to AE play and was not intended to equally apply to chess.

The arguments marshalled are all based on inaccurately played games. There are many inaccurate games played between GMs, particularly as the playing skill and strength of GMs varies quite markedly. It still doesn't change the fact that a single subtle positional mistake will suffice to allow the opponent to win, ceterus paribus, another term often employed in the chess world.

Notwithstanding the views of the gallery, one needs to stop the hijack of this thread. A new and dedicated thread would be necessary to properly discuss the merits between chess and AE.

Alfred


Well I misunderstood your meaning then. Not one - but two - need to stop the hijack of this thread!


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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/7/2010 2:44:53 PM   
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Notwithstanding the views of the gallery, one needs to stop the hijack of this thread.

Alfred


I'm not sure it's possible to hijack a thread titled "You know you're playing too much AE when..."

I'll counter with "You know you're not playing enough AE when...." ... you post something on the forums and the person sitting at the same table with you reads it 10 seconds later.

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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/7/2010 5:44:11 PM   
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You're taking the Jungle Cruise at Disneyland and you're wondering how you'd set up a .30 cal to cover the river....



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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/7/2010 6:14:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Pascal

You're taking the Jungle Cruise at Disneyland and you're wondering how you'd set up a .30 cal to cover the river....




That's a left-over from Close Combat I think. Imagine setting up all the devices for all your LCU's.

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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/8/2010 12:13:24 AM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/8/2010 2:11:57 AM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/8/2010 4:00:20 AM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/8/2010 5:03:02 AM   
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I'll counter with "You know you're not playing enough AE when...." ... you post something on the forums and the person sitting at the same table with you reads it 10 seconds later.


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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/8/2010 4:23:53 PM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/8/2010 7:35:15 PM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/9/2010 9:04:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		You know you're playing too much AE when...

Somebody posts an AE screenshot on these forums, and you catch yourself clicking on the "Exit" button in the picture to get out of the thread ...

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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/9/2010 2:25:15 PM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/9/2010 7:07:02 PM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/9/2010 7:17:55 PM   
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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/9/2010 8:01:09 PM   
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You know you're playing too much AE when...

Somebody posts an AE screenshot on these forums, and you catch yourself clicking on the "Exit" button in the picture to get out of the thread ...


... when you mouse over the screenshots to try to see the pop up hover text.

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RE: You know you're playing too much AE when... - 9/9/2010 8:35:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Grollub

You know you're playing too much AE when...

Somebody posts an AE screenshot on these forums, and you catch yourself clicking on the "Exit" button in the picture to get out of the thread ...


... when you mouse over the screenshots to try to see the pop up hover text.

Oh yes! I've done that as well!

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