Knavery
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That would wind me up too Warspite. I've been saying for the last couple of years that bad language and the lack of proper, intellectual use of the English language is creeping in more and more - enhanced by radio and pop stars....made more acceptable in no small way with Chris Moyles radio show - on between 6:30 and 10am - and he continuously uses the word arse - regularly - every morning!
Civility is definitely taking a nose dive
Well said....
I'm not sure if I view this the same way. I'm not offended by speech in and of itself. I'm not the type of person that's going to start crying when someone uses the word PI**ED. I find that utterly ridiculous to be honest. What I am bothered by is proper grammar. If swear words are used in a grammatically correct sentence, I've no issue with it. But simply being offended by the use of a word is laughable. I do agree that a certain level of professionalism should be displayed in written materials unless of course there's a common light-hearted theme throughout.
I hope you guys aren't that uptight. Loosen that belt.
Warspite1
Not sure anyone was "crying" about it. Three or four people were merely expressing a view; lamenting the fact that standards are in decline.
There are a number of measures by which standards can be seen to be in decline; bad language, lazy speech, lack of manners, lack of civility, lack of respect are perhaps chief amongst them.
Frankly I find strange the fact that you think the following scenario is okay; namely, if I am sitting on a train with my two young children and a group of people opposite are talking about the night before and the fact that they got S*** faced, W***ered, and at the end of the evening had a fight with a load of *****, then thats perfectly okay so long as the sentences that contain the profanity are perfectly formed and gramatically correct 
I have no problem with bad language in itself - indeed there are times when only a really well placed use of a four letter word really hits the spot. But like everything there is a time and a place; a computer game manual, read by children, is not the correct place in my opinion.
Its just an opinion - but to suggest that anyone holding it is ridiculous, uptight, or someone to be laughed at is a bit of a shame.
Warspite1 and JudgeDredd,
I have no children. Perhaps this is why you're a bit more sensitive to the issue of swearing. I don't swear in front of kids, because I think it's in bad taste. I do slip once in a while, but try to catch myself when I can. It's just common sense to hold your tongue in certain circumstances.
Warspite1,
Don't put words in my mouth. I did not say the scenario you so eloquently described was okay. As a matter of fact, I never brought up kids at all. I'm talking about adult language spoken by adults with tact taken into consideration. But I DO find it rather ridiculous and uptight that an adult would find certain words offensive or insulting by themselves. After all, words alone mean nothing--It's the context with which they're used.
But I see your issue with it. Since I don't have children, I don't think about some of these things. Please accept my apology if I pi**ed you off. :)
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Here in the States it is really bad. We could go on forever about the moral issues and cause a ton of fights too. I'm outta here. 
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