Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

(gulps...mutters in sotte vocce) Kyushu...they're on Kyushu...

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ORIGINAL: Knavey

"You would prefer another target? A military target? Then name the system!" - Grand Moff Tarkin

" Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room. " President Muffley

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ORIGINAL: Knavey

"You would prefer another target? A military target? Then name the system!" - Grand Moff Tarkin

Mike

"Good times will set you free" - Jimmy Buffett

"They need more rum punch" - Me


Artwork by The Amazing Dixie

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ORIGINAL: mike scholl 1

Lots of silliness yesterday, which I attribute to it being a Monday and everyone being hung over.  But it's Tuesday now, and everyone should be sober again.  So are there any serious responses on this topic?  Yes?  No?  Maybe?  Anything?

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: mike scholl 1

Lots of silliness yesterday, which I attribute to it being a Monday and everyone being hung over.  But it's Tuesday now, and everyone should be sober again.  So are there any serious responses on this topic?  Yes?  No?  Maybe?  Anything?

I would not be in favor of more clicking.

Really, does the game weather model vary enough within the fuel range to make an alternate less socked-in?

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ORIGINAL: mike scholl 1

Actually, it seems to.

I'd be in Show Me mode on that one.

And it wouldn't be a requirement..., just an option for strategic bombing.

And there'd be an immediate hue and cry for adding it for airfield and port bombing too. Why just Strat? Was weather forecasting really good enough to decide launching from Tinian if there was an alternate a good call? I know they FLEW with alternate targets, but was the launch decision made if the primary was known to to be 80% (or whatever) socked in)?

And honestly "Bull", in a clickfest like AE, what's another 50 or a hundred added to the 3,500,000 that you're already making? I once counted making 165 just putting ships into drydock in one harbor on one turn.

If it was optional I wouldn't care on that basis. But, for me, if the devs were going to add one more feature instead of just bug repair, I'd vote for sub crew fatigue. It would fix a huge, gaping hole in realism for one leg of the strategic air-sea-land triad.

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ORIGINAL: USS America

Really?

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ORIGINAL: mike scholl 1

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ORIGINAL: USS America

Really?

Yes.., really! San Francisco in early 1944. One click to pick the ship, another to set it to repair mode, two more to get through pierside and repair ship to shipyard, another to confirm, and a final one to get back to the ship list and start the process over again. Adds up fast.

Mike

"Good times will set you free" - Jimmy Buffett

"They need more rum punch" - Me


Artwork by The Amazing Dixie

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: mike scholl 1

Actually, it seems to.

I'd be in Show Me mode on that one.

And it wouldn't be a requirement..., just an option for strategic bombing.

And there'd be an immediate hue and cry for adding it for airfield and port bombing too. Why just Strat? Was weather forecasting really good enough to decide launching from Tinian if there was an alternate a good call? I know they FLEW with alternate targets, but was the launch decision made if the primary was known to to be 80% (or whatever) socked in)?

Airfields and ports are tactical targets, if you are trying to knock one out it doesn't do you much good to hit another.

Weather forcasting, no. But weather planes could and regularly did fly ahead of missions to report on local conditions. And even when they arrived over targets, strategic bombers generally had enough fuel to divert to a secondary
target if visibility was too bad to hit the primary. It happened regularly during the war because the long flight times to and from the targets made it tough to predict the weather in advance.

Adding a secondary target doesn't guarantee it won't be "socked in" as well.., but it does at least increase the chances of a successful mission. And given the generally limited amount of time available for strategic bombing, and the truly atrocious weather around Japan, it would help.

I have no quarrel with submarine crew fatigue. Would make sense for the boys to need some R & R rather than just re-loading torpedoes and fuel and sailing straight out again. I think it would be a good addition to the game (and add minimal clicks).

(in reply to Bullwinkle58)

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ORIGINAL: USS America

Sorry, what I meant was, "You really spent your time counting the number of clicks you made instead of just playing and enjoying the game?" That just blows me away.

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ORIGINAL: mike scholl 1

Airfields and ports are tactical targets, if you are trying to knock one out it doesn't do you much good to hit another.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: mike scholl 1

Airfields and ports are tactical targets, if you are trying to knock one out it doesn't do you much good to hit another.

I have to disagree. In dense areas like the DEI or Solomons, I'd rather hit another airfield and try to kill airplanes, than to have my planes sit on the ground.

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ORIGINAL: mike scholl 1


Well, I have to disagree with your disagreement..., but I'm getting the feeling I'm having my chain pulled because we generally see eye-to-eye on most things. Is the "Bull" a bit bored today?