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About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 10/3/2010 7:35:08 PM   
Cross


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Status: offline 		I posted this graphic at a couple of the SP sites to help people understand the various SP games. There's a lot of confusion out there, and I hope this helps clear the fog for a few people.



cheers,
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Edit: Corrected the date of SPMBT release

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 10/10/2010 7:10:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		In the beginning of SP Mods there was an add-on to SPII called SP2:WW2 where you needed the SPII CD to play. I downloaded it from the now long dead site called The Gamers Net in 2000...

This add-on had new icons, sounds, scenarios (but no campaigns) etc.

Many of the names behind that add-on are well known from both main lines of SP design...

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 11/25/2010 11:10:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Get the Generals Edition and you get it all. The Mega Campaigns are outstanding.

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 12/3/2010 10:41:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like you need to add SPCW to that diagram, Cross

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 12/4/2010 3:30:58 PM   
Cross


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ORIGINAL: mkr8683

Looks like you need to add SPCW to that diagram, Cross


There's been a lot of mods over the years, and this isn't the first time a SP Civil War mod has been created. Past mods include:


  • SPWW1 (The Great War)
  • Wooden Ships and Steel Men aka. Steel Napoleon: Naval Warfare, 19th Century
  • Steel Naval aka. Steel Empire: Naval Warfare, 20th Century
  • 1890s Boer War
  • Steel Rifles (Age of Rifles Mod)
  • Futuristic Mod


There were other mods too; most never really got off the ground.

I only included H2H and Enhanced in the Time Line because of their popularity and visibility. They did 'get off the ground', perhaps played as much or more than the vanilla version of SPWaW.


Cross





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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 12/4/2010 5:14:52 PM   
Alby


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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 12/4/2010 5:54:16 PM   
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Steel Rifles (Age of Rifles Mod)


I never heard of that one! Sounds interesting.

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 12/4/2010 6:39:01 PM   
Cross


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Status: offline 		I could be wrong, but I think Welk used Age of Rifles to make one of his Napoleonic mods for SP.

Perhaps he just used the sounds from AoR, I don't recall.

Nice work on the American CW mod BTW. I saw some screen shots and it looks very well done.

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 12/4/2010 9:20:23 PM   
mkr8683


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Status: offline 		Matrix actually supported the initial SPCW design team, and the project was called SP:AOTR (Age Of The Rifle). Due to the project languishing, they cut their support and moved on. I couldn't blame them.

*This was back in the glory days of 2001 when they were still supporting SP:WaW*

And thank you for the comment about the current SPCW project.


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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 12/31/2010 10:47:11 PM   
Cross


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I just realised that I forgot another one:

SP Star Wars Mod

Someone really did put a Star Wars mod together for SP. I never played it, but did see a few screen shots.



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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 1/1/2011 5:02:50 AM   
mkr8683


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Status: offline 		A long time ago in a dirty land far, far away, I built a Hoth mod for SP:WaW when I was in Baghdad in 2008. Got a new computer, put all the old files on a flash drive, lost the flash drive. Had also uploaded it to MediaFire, and was advised that they delete stuff after 60 days. So it's long, long gone. I've been slowly reviving that mod, but has someone else released another SW mod?

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 1/1/2011 1:19:40 PM   
Cross


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Status: offline 		So it was you that was responsible for the Star Wars mod. It really is quite a small planet.

I have few Star Wars sounds on my PC. I use them to make ring tones for my phone, or to edit Windows sounds. There's not many, but if you're interested I'll upload them somewhere for you to use.


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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 1/1/2011 3:43:30 PM   
mkr8683


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Status: offline 		I see, I was thinking there was another mod out. I didn't want duplicate work going on. Sure I'll take the sounds, a MediaFire link would work fine. Just PM me with the link.

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 1/1/2011 7:15:43 PM   
sami heimola

 

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Status: offline 		Hmm most of those mods sounds familiar to me... Btw, does anyone know what happened to SPWW1? Is it really exist or not? 

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 1/1/2011 8:47:56 PM   
Cross


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Here's a link to info about a WWI mod:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/SPWW1mod/

But I don't think it was ever finished and released. I seem to recall that they ran into difficulties.

IIRC, there was another attempt at a WWI mod - based on the windows version of SP - but I don't think that got as far as the one I linked.



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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 1/6/2011 4:08:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		*sniff*.....ah threads like this bring a tear to my eye. Does any other active computer wargame have as long a lineage? Great game. Still have my original 1995 SSI Steel Panthers ver 1.0 disk, as well as SP:WAW 1.0 disk. Sometimes for chuckles i'll load them up on my older computer just to see how far the game has evolved.

Game will probably never leave my HD in it's modern forms.....got WAW, WAW:Enhanced (havn't really tried this one yet though), WinSPWW2 and WinSPMBT. Four versions of the same game on one computer

Now if only there were more hours in the day!

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 1/15/2011 6:37:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I´d even go as far as adding Grigsby´s Battlegroup/Kampfgruppe and Panzer Strike/Typhoon of Steel to that development tree!

Think, the first "mod" I ever made, was fiddling with Panzer Strikes BASIC code to achieve a greenish background color, instead of the black one. Added a lot to my enjoyment in playing PS in those dark C64 days.

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 1/14/2012 10:33:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		An interesting and useful timeline Cross, but Id like to point out some things.

-SPMBT came out in 2002 not 1999.
-SP2WW2 a mod that reguired an SP2 installation to work came out in late 1998.
-In 1999 SPWW2 was born when SSI released the actual code of SP2 to Camo Workshop (Then called SP Camo Workshop). SSI also released SP3 code and from that came out Matrix Games and SPWAW.
Note that SPWW2 also reguired you to have either the SP2 or SP3 CD until version 5 or 6 I think...

By the way I  still have the first SP CAMO Workshop mods for my Steel Panthers 2 that only adds the camoflage (no ww2 stuff) to all vehicles and the file date on the files range from 1998.06.25 to 1998.08.01.


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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 1/16/2012 5:10:01 PM   
Cross


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ORIGINAL: Rosollia

An interesting and useful timeline Cross, but Id like to point out some things.

-SPMBT came out in 2002 not 1999.
-SP2WW2 a mod that reguired an SP2 installation to work came out in late 1998.
-In 1999 SPWW2 was born when SSI released the actual code of SP2 to Camo Workshop (Then called SP Camo Workshop). SSI also released SP3 code and from that came out Matrix Games and SPWAW.
Note that SPWW2 also reguired you to have either the SP2 or SP3 CD until version 5 or 6 I think...

By the way I  still have the first SP CAMO Workshop mods for my Steel Panthers 2 that only adds the camoflage (no ww2 stuff) to all vehicles and the file date on the files range from 1998.06.25 to 1998.08.01.


Hey Rosollia,

You are absolutely right. That was pointed out to me on another thread.

The only correction to my image would be to move the SPMBT from 1999 to 2002.

I have a corrected image, and will upload it when I get time.

Thanks,
Cross


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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 1/25/2012 10:50:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Does the WAW Enhanced or other mods for the SPWAW have higher resolution up to 1920?

I bought already WinSPWW2 ;-)

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 1/26/2012 10:07:17 AM   
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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 11/28/2012 10:24:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I remember bought the very first Steel Panther, it was interesting wargame back then.

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 11/29/2012 2:36:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RisingSun

I remember bought the very first Steel Panther, it was interesting wargame back then.


This one was in 20 game pack I bought. It rapidly developed to the only game I played at all from the 20

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RE: About 10 Different Steel Panthers Games - 12/1/2012 2:42:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		HA! Me too! It was in a bundle called 'Battle Action Games' that I got for Christmas about 1998. Had Wolfenstein, some ASCII crappers, and some arcade-type games. Played Wolfenstein through a few times, but SP was the only one I stuck with.

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