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REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 1:59:56 PM

RUDOLF

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I request Matrix games to make a Hotfix to repair the Radar Bugg.

As known Ground to Air Radar's does not work, and detection is done at 40NM only. This severely hampers the Japanese ability to defend itself from 1943 and onwards.

Could you please make a Hotfix to repair this problem, or maybe it is recommended to go back to earlier version of the game?
Please Advice.

I hope for a fast reply.

Best regards
Rudolf

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 2:56:30 PM

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Well a tleast you get attention, no less than 2590 views. 2591 including this one :) Wonder why noone replied?

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 2:58:42 PM

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quote:

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Well a tleast you get attention, no less than 2590 views. 2591 including this one :) Wonder why noone replied?

eh... ok.
Well I put the link in my Signature.

Well, I hope the ones with the power to act will reply, the Amount of planes who manage to scramble are of course effected by how long warning they get.
So from a Air Defence perspective this is very important to Japan.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 3:00:35 PM

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Think my forum counter is off..... 3240 views! Anyway: i'll leave this thread now for the Devs to respond.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 3:01:22 PM

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Well a tleast you get attention, no less than 2590 views. 2591 including this one :) Wonder why noone replied?

Possibly because someone just keeps refreshing this thing to pad the count. That or the 20 people online on this forum all checked the thread 50 times in 5 minutes.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 3:02:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: Smeulders

Possibly because someone just keeps refreshing this thing to pad the count. That or the 20 people online on this forum all checked the thread 50 times in 5 minutes.

Yes, that sounds more resonable.
The post has 36 visiters now btw.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 3:04:45 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: d0mbo

Anyway: i'll leave this thread now for the Devs to respond.

I hope they do, this thing effects my defencive strategy to put it that way.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 3:06:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: RUDOLF

Well, I hope the ones with the power to act will reply, the Amount of planes who manage to scramble are of course effected by how long warning they get.
So from a Air Defence perspective this is very important to Japan.

Try starting a new campaign under the latest patch as the allies and let me know how you make out. This bug affects both sides not just one.

I'd love to see a hot fix and asked for one on 9-7 , They always seem to have alot on their plate but hopefully the developers are working on it and we'll see a fix soon.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 4:22:37 PM

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Seems like a biggie. Between this and the inverted search arc bug detection is going to be a problem. At least there is a workaround for the bad search arcs 9don't use them)

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 4:55:35 PM

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I doubt a hotfix is going to happen.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 6:57:05 PM

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It'll be a while till my game reaches 1943, but regardless this seems like a very big bug that needs squashing ASAP.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 6:59:03 PM

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Bad search arcs? I must have missed this, can someone provide a link? From what I see my search arcs are working ok.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 7:11:12 PM

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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2574254

I thought mine were working okay as well Nemo but apparently there is a bug, I feel like I'm getting more hits since I turned off search arcs

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 8:00:38 PM

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I oppose the request for a ground radar-only hotfix. I know there are more bugs they have squashed and are pending release and others pending fixes, but some of the more significant ones are:

- Ground radar
- Attack planes
- Search arcs
- AA performance
- Shipboard AA ammo
- Occasionally getting the enemy Combat Events instead of your own

And of course plenty of others they have worked with people on and nailed down.

Taken out the time to put together a ground radar-only hotfix would take away from the main patch that will address so many issues.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 8:07:00 PM

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Exactly. Get the patch ready and bring it on.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 8:07:39 PM

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Anyone know an apx date for the next patch?

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 8:34:58 PM

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SuluSea,
Well this would explain some of my failures to hunt down BBs early in the game. So, if I put in to search an arc from 90 degrees to 120 does that mean it searches 270 to 300 or is it randomised somehow?

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 8:38:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: Nemo121

SuluSea,
Well this would explain some of my failures to hunt down BBs early in the game. So, if I put in to search an arc from 90 degrees to 120 does that mean it searches 270 to 300 or is it randomised somehow?

At first it was thought to be backward, but it was later found that also does not work. "Randomized somehow" is a reasonable choice of words. What I call 'no arcs' is the way to go: click the "Reset Arcs" button or just make certain the arc set is Start 000 End 000.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 10:15:34 PM

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I did a test now, and turned all Arcs off on All groups. (ASW + Navel Search) --- and wow!! I just started to see all sorts of things that I never knew existed!!

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 10:19:23 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: RUDOLF

I did a test now, and turned all Arcs off on All groups. (ASW + Navel Search) --- and wow!! I just started to see all sorts of things that I never knew existed!!

Did you find the Loch Ness hanging out in one of your ports?

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 10:26:07 PM

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There was another thread that discussed search arcs at length, with a multitude of test run. The clear result was the search arcs do not work and that setting them is totally useless - or more likely counterproductive. The results proved that you were better off not setting any search arcs.

I didn't set arcs during the last year of my game with Miller, and I haven't set a single arc in my game with Q-Ball (now in June '42). I am convinced that the results in my games reflect the test results.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 10:47:11 PM

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There was another thread that discussed search arcs at length, with a multitude of test run. The clear result was the search arcs do not work and that setting them is totally useless - or more likely counterproductive. The results proved that you were better off not setting any search arcs.

I didn't set arcs during the last year of my game with Miller, and I haven't set a single arc in my game with Q-Ball (now in June '42). I am convinced that the results in my games reflect the test results.

So you found Nessie, too, eh?

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/20/2010 10:59:07 PM

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Man, I am starting to get discouraged. This game is a HUGE time sink, which is fun when things work, and not when they don't. I knew about many things mentioned here, but I missed this.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/21/2010 12:22:21 AM

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What about the air stuff does work? I mean radar doesn't, search arcs, admin stacking has no basis from the real world, mission coordination, training pilots doesn't even require airplanes. I'm sure there is more I'm missing (like max alt sweep). So what actually does work?

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/21/2010 12:39:54 AM

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Yes, but here's the thing. Warts and all, the game seems to have reached a balanced stasis. There are lots of warts and glitches and bugs that can drive players crazy, but many of the problems affect both sides, and those that vex just one side seem to be counterbalanced by some problem that vexes the other side.

So, the net effect is that we have a majestic, challenging, beautiful game that lends itself to satisfying competition. It's been said before that the game is like three dimensional chess on steroids. Yes, the rooks are missing part of their masonry, the queens have lost their crowns, and dry rot has set in on the pawns, but it still works.

We all hope that glitches will be fixed, but there's something to be said about not fixing a bug that affects only one side (or one side disproportionately) thus throwing the game out of balance.

P.S. All this is said with thanks to the developers for creating a monster game and working hard to address problems.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/21/2010 12:51:28 AM

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Well said Canoe. And much more politically correct than the one I had drafted before fate intervened.

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Yes, but here's the thing. Warts and all, the game seems to have reached a balanced stasis. There are lots of warts and glitches and bugs that can drive players crazy, but many of the problems affect both sides, and those that vex just one side seem to be counterbalanced by some problem that vexes the other side.

So, the net effect is that we have a majestic, challenging, beautiful game that lends itself to satisfying competition. It's been said before that the game is like three dimensional chess on steroids. Yes, the rooks are missing part of their masonry, the queens have lost their crowns, and dry rot has set in on the pawns, but it still works.

We all hope that glitches will be fixed, but there's something to be said about not fixing a bug that affects only one side (or one side disproportionately) thus throwing the game out of balance.

P.S. All this is said with thanks to the developers for creating a monster game and working hard to address problems.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/21/2010 1:54:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: War History

What about the air stuff does work? I mean radar doesn't, search arcs, admin stacking has no basis from the real world, mission coordination, training pilots doesn't even require airplanes. I'm sure there is more I'm missing (like max alt sweep). So what actually does work?

99,9 % of the air code works, and makes for an enjoyable game.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/21/2010 6:54:41 AM

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yes give yum a brake they will get fixed most u can work around anyway.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/21/2010 7:46:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: Nemo121

Bad search arcs? I must have missed this, can someone provide a link? From what I see my search arcs are working ok.

they aren�t Nemo. You better throw them overboard asap.

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RE: REQUEST FOR HOTFIX !! - 10/21/2010 7:47:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

I oppose the request for a ground radar-only hotfix. I know there are more bugs they have squashed and are pending release and others pending fixes, but some of the more significant ones are:

- Ground radar
- Attack planes
- Search arcs
- AA performance
- Shipboard AA ammo
- Occasionally getting the enemy Combat Events instead of your own

And of course plenty of others they have worked with people on and nailed down.

Taken out the time to put together a ground radar-only hotfix would take away from the main patch that will address so many issues.

yup, these surely are the main ones at the moment. The first three are bugs, AA would be a tweak I guess and the last one is totally new to me.

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