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LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 10/27/2010 2:45:41 PM   
Rob Brennan UK


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Hello any readers who drop by, We are carrying on with our game in a new thread that will allow both of us to actually show screenshots and talk about upcoming ops etc. The joint AAR just wasn't very interesting to read.

I have a few mins just to open this thread up and post a taster from what was an interesting day ! .. more , hopefully much more, later.






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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 10/27/2010 2:55:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did not even have time to watch the replay yet. Looks like Akagi has new ways to vent air. Trough the hull. Cool. 

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 10/27/2010 3:09:02 PM   
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Did not even have time to watch the replay yet. Looks like Akagi has new ways to vent air. Trough the hull. Cool. 


More like venting water.

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 10/27/2010 3:15:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Doesn´t mean venting mean something goes out instead of in?
At loss with my English on this so I take your word for it.

Anyway doesn´t matter what vented in which direction. Nice hit Rob!!


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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 10/27/2010 3:18:09 PM   
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Doesn´t mean venting mean something goes out instead of in?
At loss with my English on this so I take your word for it.

Anyway doesn´t matter what vented in which direction. Nice hit Rob!!



Correct.

But "venting" here could have have meant pumping out the unwanted seawater.

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 10/27/2010 3:20:20 PM   
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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 10/28/2010 5:54:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks all for the replies , I just had to start a thread with that screenshot as lonegunman stated .

Righty Ho , back to business. Today its the turn of Malaya to be under the spotlight. From the start i decided to try a forward defence at kuala lumpur and sent up what i had in the way of enginers and AV to make the place (in a jungle too!) defenceible. also as a priority was getting the 2 Indian III corps divisions back together (easier said than done) but managed it 2 days beofre his first armoured attack on the defences (he bounced badly). Neither is in much of a state to help Singapore as you can see from the screenshot (this is the better of the 2).

Additionally I have been shipping men and heavy equipment out of singapore as fast as PP's allowed, beacause japan didnt have much in the way of anti shipping planes operating for weeks after the first turn or 2. The australian regiments are almost back in perth (after being sent initially to Cape town). theres still a small AP/AKL convoy getting out the last of the heavy AA and artillery to palambang where it rails south to be collected and shipped elsewhere.

this is all really in aid of the long term defensive plans for the DEI and northern australia. Of which i will be posting more in the future.




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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 10/28/2010 6:03:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just had to post this one too !

If Japan wants to use the KB in the DEI then there might be a big price to pay if he wants to clobber Java or northern australia. All the DEI and the 2 british boats have new and very agressive commanders. This is showing itself but even with working torps its not guaranteed to work . Still there is the psycological effect (which is not inconsiderable).

I am also thinking of shoving into java/cocos/christmas island all the available commonwealth troops i can muster. There are currently quite a few regiments/divs training up in ceylon (i.e at 100 Prep ) and are rapidly improving thier exp from 20 to the mid 40's now. I think 50 is the cap so when they hit that i'll seriously consider re-prepping them and sending them south to form speedbumps on unexpected places to make his preperations take longer or else he incurrs a lot more losses.

anyhoo I am getting ahead of myself here and more on the future plans for the DEI later on.

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 10/30/2010 8:26:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		China AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 27, 42

Todays its china's turn. Its all a bit of a mystery to me how china uses/stores/makes supply so i tend to ignore that and just go with my gut feelings here . That might not be the most clynical way to approach china but its working for now.From the start to now china has been very active with an abortive chinese offensive in south china coast region just seen off by massive japanese air.Consequently the attacking units were slaughtered trying to get back home by a large armoured column thats just hit a brick wall. Top tip for anyone using rail transport. You cannot rail out of contested hexes but you can rail IN , the troops even automatically change to combat mode too as a huge bonus.


Ground combat at Kukong (79,57)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9185 troops, 11 guns, 1067 vehicles, Assault Value = 637

Defending force 50407 troops, 240 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1493

Japanese adjusted assault: 356

Allied adjusted defense: 1915

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
166 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 38 destroyed, 126 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Vehicles lost 218 (46 destroyed, 172 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1647 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 207 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 158 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled.

So all is well so far in china, massive japanese air attacks with huge oscar and nate escorts are just nstoppable unto now but the AVG (2 units) have been active in sniping down smaller raids and we bagged 10 sallies today to one P40 lost on landing.

Here is the situation for south/central china.





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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 10/30/2010 8:29:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		North china has seen succesful chinese victories as well as advanced raiders nabbing small unoccupied japanese bases. this all makes Japan spread out its troops. Powlow is hodling back a full japanese Divion. We did over extend a bit up north but its settled down now and a v small 1/3 div raider force has taken Mangan this turn.






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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/1/2010 2:05:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		March 1st is upon us.

Rather a quiet 2 days , Ambon continues to hold despite more japanese troops landing and the CD batteries seem to have zeroed in thier 6 inch guns with one Jap AK a floating bonfire at the end of the turn.

Pre-Invasion action off Ambon
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
xAK Kokai Maru, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
SC Ch 22
SC Ch 21
xAK Aso Maru

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Ground combat at Ambon (76,109)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3803 troops, 32 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 171

Defending force 1131 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 33

Japanese adjusted assault: 15

Allied adjusted defense: 82

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
Bandasan SNLF /1
146th Infantry Regiment
91st Nav Gd /1

Defending units:
Molukken Garrison Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion

Methinks someone forgot to send enough supply. Thats soon rectified however so i doubt Ambon will last the week. Over in Timor Japan consolidates and has fighters patrolling the skies where some uneventful american 4E bombers did notinh for no loss a couple of days back. KB , or part of KB , was seen giving air cover near timor 2 dats ago and in anticipation I withdrew the heavies from darwin and tried to move up all the (expend by the 15march ) soon to go fighters and DB's not already in Java. This could well be his reason for delaying any attacks in the DEI/australia, if so then thats a lot more pilots for me and 2 weeks of digging for free[;).

Heres the rough plan for java, I have troops on every base (so its scatterd to heck and back for japanese recon) and also will stop any opportunistic para drops. Most men are in Batavia/Soerbaja , again for decoy purposes. While every able bodied defender is prepping for Madoein which being non coastal makes it a lot safer last stand than either of the 2 obvious choices. Also been digging away here from day 1 (with added engineers) and its almost upto level 4. Once Japan lands in enough force to take batavia or soerbaja , We'll just on the nearest train to Madoein. then fingers crossed he can use all his prepped 100% on empty targets while im sitting behind level 4 forts with 100k+ supply. To that end I'm shuttling over supply from Sumatra as there is a ton there thats begging to be used. Almost forgot to mention that when any unit gets to 100% prep for madoien, i rail it in and train it up to max 50 ish, then swop it for another so recon doesnt spot a spike in troop numbers.

heres the overall air losses so far , its been really really low and for the allies thats a big advantage early on in my opinion as japap can get a training system up and running a let easier than the allies with all our silly withdrawl dates etc .

Bon voyage readers , If anything interesting happens i'll let you know !




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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/1/2010 9:23:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry for the lack of information from the US command, but, truly, Rob is the one whos fighting the war right now.

We do have a war on the west coast though and this is cargo and troops against cargo and troop capability.
A large convoy is slowly, very slowly, assembling on the west coast, target Newzealand.

It will contain troops, fighter aircraft, marine units and support, will have at least a partial command structure under the I Amphib Corps
and is expected to be the thorne in the side of any advance of the Japanese into either the south pac or australia.

I will update the AAR later with a map to show US plans to stem against the tide.

As for now Rob is doing nice attriting the men of the rising sun anyway. I enjoy watching the replays because there is nearly guaranteed
he will pull another small trap out of his sleeve.

Bataan is still holding. The supply is nearly gone and it is raided from air with wave after wave of IJA bombers. Still, the troops are still in
good order, and I am happy for every additional day the sieging amy is bound to this place instead of moving off to transport ships with
target "somewhere juicy".
That said Offensemans losses have been higher than average, most of all in tanks. I am estimating 230-250 tanks destroyed from the
beginning of hostilities and he is still losing vehicles at Bataan at a rate of 1-2 per day.



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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/1/2010 1:28:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think he's lost more than that in armour, given the kuala lumpur attack and iirc you did a nice armour ambush at a forward base in the PI. Only a few weeks ago game time but so much has happened since that my brain jettisons anything more than 4 weeks old game wise . Also he has lost a lot in his artilley attacks on bataan (no idea why), actually thinking on it , i suspect that the arty killed off mech support so your probably right on the numbers.

What a waste of a post . wonder if Tracker has the numbers ? I do have it loaded but not overly familiar with it yet ( and before i even think of playing japan in a PBEM i want to know tracker like the back of my hand).

Anyhoo ,, i do have a dilemma in china. Japan has been 'restricted' to only doing huge attacks with escorts in the 40-50 range but they are usually a bit scattered. He's attacking Kukong, the city in the woods in S chine just east of wuchow. anyhoo the dilemma. AVG ambushes have been relatively effective except when i hit his large attacks then its 1-1 on losses and that hurts the H41's badly. I now have all 3 AVG units in China and have swopped out the numpty pilots and stolen good ones with large bribes from the USA . so we have c. 22 P40s and 40 odd H41's in total. I also have 60 av support in kukong and 2 more corps railing down as i 'think' hes slipping in more men (bombarding this turn to check). so i can almost guarantee the AVG wont get overrun but no air HQ means that CAP even on a high % isn't great. So finally , do i just leave the AVG training or risk it to try and hurt his training program ? (the escorts have to be good pilots from previous experience) . Any adive/comments are welcome.

FYI we have an agreement that any non chinese AF in china has to have its own AV support. The AVG base force is miles away from the action so i cant send in a ton of hurricanes to ruin his day , Yet ! .. plans are afoot to fly in some commonwealth AV support once i have enough in India. The chinese AF is 90% training at 100% in Karachi with some doing/training naval search untill i get more catalianas. Training up in china costs supply afaik so best to do it in India. also swopping about with planes is a lot easier.

Well thats my ramblings for the day.

TTFN

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/1/2010 2:59:23 PM   
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... do i just leave the AVG training or risk it to try and hurt his training program ? (the escorts have to be good pilots from previous experience) . Any adive/comments are welcome...
TTFN


In deciding what to do with the AVG, I think you should take into account the following.

(1) The current AVG pilots are trained to a level that non combat training is quite slow. They need to be in combat to really improve their stats. Consequently if you really want to take the AVG offline to engage in training, you should replace the current pilots with rookies. The rookies will need the entire period before the AVG is withdrawn in 3-4 months to reach a good standard.

(2) As a result of (1), if you commit to training the AVG, you are basically losing use of the AVG prior to withdrawal.

(3) Chinese airframe replacements are quite low. In April you start to get Lancers and in July Vanguards. If you rely upon these aircraft solely to refit your Chinese fighter units, you are really looking at 1943 before you will be able to deploy your Chinese fighter units into combat. If you want to speed up their introduction to combat, you will have to cannibalise the H81s of the AVG to refit the Chinese.

(4) If you reequip the AVG fully with P40Es, you can fly them until they are withdrawn. At that point your reequipped Chinese (who would have been on 100% training in the intervening period) can be used on the frontline.

Personnally, I think there is a lot to be said for maintaining some Allied fighters active in China all the time. Doing so will interrupt the Japanese training program, and probably disrupt their planned use of obsolete aircraft for that real live training. Japan will also need to consume more supply in China to replace lost aircraft. Of course, you would still need to pick your air battles selectively.

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/1/2010 4:45:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the advice Alfred!
Looks very sound. I agree to let the AVG keep on fighting as long as possible, pulling back just gives the Japanese a green card to train and bomb
in China to their liking.

Just a comment: Currently I see the best way to keep the AVG well and fighting not to upgrade to P40E´s but to P40B.

The reason for this is: The performance of the B version is better, more similar to the H41´s, and it lets Rob use airframes I don´t need to upgrade to.
I will focus on the E versions which benefits Rob, because he gets the better airframes, while I have more of the E airframes which benefit from increased range with drop tanks
in case I want to escort medium bombers in an area of conflict that doesn´t exist yet.

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/1/2010 5:03:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, use of the P-40B is a viable option. I tend to not give them to the AVG because I use them to maintain the fighting strength of the American fighter units in the Philippines (it being easier to top up a unit with the existing model issued rather than upgrading to a different model). There is also a fighter squadron at Pearl Harbor which is equipped with the P-40B, which if you were to upgrade to another fighter model, you lose the entire P-70 Havoc night fighter stream.

I don't know your situation regarding the Philippines or the specific PH squadron, so you may have adequate numbers of P-40Bs in the pool. I usually don't.

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/1/2010 5:39:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Phi--lipp--ines fighter...erm...units?

Such a thing does only exist in bleak memories. I disbanded the last about a week ago, consisting of about 3 P40E´s and 4-5 P40B´s.
Its March 5th now, so the IJA has total air supremacy.
The basese where whacked by both, IJA and IJN from day one and since KB did not attack Pearl but Manila casualties have been high from the
very start. I managed to get about 8-10 kills but after that the squads just served as Japanese training targets.

Good hint about the P-70 night fighters. Do you by chance know which unit that is?

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/1/2010 5:50:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I see that your Filipino experience has seared itself into your memory. Is that the reason why you left your true love AE and went off to that floozie, Distant World?

The Pearl Harbor unit is the 18th FG/6th FS. It is equipped with the P-40B and you can upgrade to any of the usual American fighter models plus the P-70 Havoc night figther. As that night fighter is not produced until August, you need to keep P-40Bs in the pools to maintain the unit's strength up until you can upgrade to the night fighter.

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/1/2010 6:12:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Left my true love? Never! Such a thing is not even imaginable. (I hope my girlfriend is reading this... )

TBH I am quite happy that Offenseman chose to attack Manila. My viewpoint on the Manila/Pearl discussion is very clear.
Not attacking Pearl is a mistake, a big one IMO. Theres absolutely nothing at Manila that justifies neglecting all those juicy BB´s, replenishment ships, PBY´s,
B17´s, P40´s and stuff sitting at PH.
Now I can use a load of old BB´s to act as flag for convoys. Perfect torpedo magnets, and if I was an AMC commander I´d take the alternative route if you
know what I mean...

But pssssst....dont tell anybody.

Thanks for the pointer to 18th/6th, will take a look at these guys.


PS: DW is a great game, it has huge potential and I am a 4x fan since I can remember. Worth a try if you are into the genre, its the best out there I think.
(I hope my girlfriend is NOT reading this... )

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/1/2010 6:47:49 PM   
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Left my true love? Never! Such a thing is not even imaginable. (I hope my girlfriend is reading this... )

TBH I am quite happy that Offenseman chose to attack Manila. My viewpoint on the Manila/Pearl discussion is very clear.
Not attacking Pearl is a mistake, a big one IMO. Theres absolutely nothing at Manila that justifies neglecting all those juicy BB´s, replenishment ships, PBY´s,
B17´s, P40´s and stuff sitting at PH.
Now I can use a load of old BB´s to act as flag for convoys. Perfect torpedo magnets, and if I was an AMC commander I´d take the alternative route if you
know what I mean...

But pssssst....dont tell anybody.

Thanks for the pointer to 18th/6th, will take a look at these guys.


PS: DW is a great game, it has huge potential and I am a 4x fan since I can remember. Worth a try if you are into the genre, its the best out there I think.
(I hope my girlfriend is NOT reading this... )


Yes I recall making a post on that discussion invoking Clausewitz. I don't think the point was widely taken as there seemed to be little commentary firmly rooted on Clauswitzian principles in that discussion. I have no doubt what Clauswitz would have chosen: Pearl Harbor always rather than Manila. Jomini I'm not so certain, but also probably Pearl Harbor. Moltke the Elder also would have gone for PH, but then he belongs to the German (oops Clausewitzian) School. Pretty certain that Zhukov (Tuchachevsky), Napoleon and Mahan would have gone for PH. Gamelin might have chosen Manila and I think that in itself would be quite revealing as to the merits of the two locations.

MOO2 and MOO3 somewhat burned me off the 4x genre. Now MOO1, that was a gem of a game.

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/1/2010 8:11:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the advice alfred , i'd forgotten the chinese can use the H41's .. and LoBaron i will definately take you up on P40 B's , thanks. Ive moved the AVG closer to the air war over kukong so unless japan swithces tactics and flattens the sirfield next turn I'll throw in 60 fighters on high % CAP (70ish) , just for 1 turn (2 days) on c 20k alt. then pull back to india for a/c upgrading.



Japan makes yet another duff attck on china.


Ground combat at 85,44

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 45302 troops, 560 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 1470

Defending force 76222 troops, 426 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2470

Japanese adjusted assault: 525

Allied adjusted defense: 2839

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
6742 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 365 disabled (shame its all disables)
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 484 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 59 disabled


Allied ground losses:
411 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
37th Division
4th Ind.Mixed Brigade
34th Division
116th Division
32nd/A Division
22nd Ind. Engineer Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
7th Ind. Engineer Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
13th Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
77th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
41st Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
22nd Group Army
5th War Area
3rd Group Army
31st Group Army

Paulow (north china) was taken initially on a 1-1 attack from Japan , that was a suprise ! so ive ordered 2 very very weak regiments back into town just to tip it to 1-2 as the numbers are close . The supply situation there has plummeted badly now too. lets hope he waits a few turns while i mull over whether to pull back so im closer to supply lines.

Ground combat at Paotow (92,34)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12519 troops, 104 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 459

Defending force 13685 troops, 129 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 477

Japanese adjusted assault: 444

Allied adjusted defense: 403

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
245 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Allied ground losses:
203 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
29th Division

Defending units:
81st Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
3rd Prov Chinese Corps
17th Group Army

Piccies is of the big failed japanese assault in china.




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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/2/2010 11:13:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just a short update on the US side of the war:

Bataan will fall soon, its March 7th so thats ok with me, they fought long and tough.
I am out of supplies now and Mike made a deliberate attack which already showed the dreaded supplies (-).
Thats not a problem in itself, more that the Japanese are aware of it now and this means attacks will increase.
After being pounded by 140-150 IJA bombers per day it was a matter of time anyway.


On the west coast the first big convoy of the war is assembling. I like to keep my ships together instead of spreading them out.
CV escort is mandatory as in case the 70+ ships arrive safely in Auckland the balance of power will at least shift a small bit into
the right direction.
Offenseman is trying to choke San Francisco with subs, currently he is welcome to try. Its an even battle but I got more assets,
naturally I will have to force it when the convoy sails but I am confident that I got enough ASW forces (air and naval) to do the job.

The bright side is this turn, after a longer break, both Rob and me managed to crack some sub hulls open.

My ASW caught one of the subs lurking at SF, Rob put a well designed British DC on a sub near Perth.
Only 1 direct hit each but I guess the Perth boat is in trouble, my prey will probably survive since the US DC´s don´t hurt.

< Message edited by LoBaron -- 11/2/2010 11:18:42 PM >

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/3/2010 6:51:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		It wasnt that bad LoBaron , Japan suffered badly and didnt reduce the forts. The Big AV units in bataan still have about 3/4 supply intrisically but spare supply was listed as 12! so its going to fall soon ish.

Ground combat at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 82102 troops, 813 guns, 432 vehicles, Assault Value = 2835

Defending force 55395 troops, 945 guns, 759 vehicles, Assault Value = 1878

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 2462

Allied adjusted defense: 2661

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
10621 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 469 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 590 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 62 disabled
Vehicles lost 52 (4 destroyed, 48 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
3721 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 223 disabled
Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 133 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled
Vehicles lost 33 (4 destroyed, 29 disabled)



Infatry disablements take a long time to heal , even when rested and in full supply they can take ages. I wonder when Japan will be brave enough to attack again ? Out of curiousity does the base need 20k supply to heal disablements ? or do hq;s help with high admin ? I think its no and yes respectively but would love confirmation.

As for China and the AVG , Mike said in his e-mail reply he expected the AVG to come calling soon. As it is the AVG lost 22 planes .. that is one big ouch ! but over the course of at least 10 combats in 2 days we did hit a lot of japanese aircraft in return, even one of the dreaded Tojos was downed by a P40E.Japanese losses were about 75 planes. Wish i'd set CAP over singapore today too as all the netty raids came in unescorted , i suspect its a dupe and wont fall for it yet , if in 3-4 turns no escort then i'll maybe jump in.

so all in all 75-22 aint bad and we only lost 7 pilots dead in total over the pacific in 2 days, thats good !

Thats about it really , all else is quiet (thankfully). the Royal Navy is assemblig a suprise for Japan should the evil empire decide to attack the DEI without KB support. If KB comes calling however all bets are off and running away is just advancing on a 180^ axis








EDIT , there was one very very strange oddity, I sent a lone AKL upto lautern in Timor on 'pick up troop' mode with amphibious set as TF type. There was only 11 tubes of dutch 88mm AAguns to pick up as all else has been flown out. the AP duly picked up 8 before the base was overrun. Then ! next day the AA guns re-landed and invaded ! what the hell happened there ? TF was set to return to Darwin.

Upon opening the turn the AKL was 3 hexes from Lautern and on its way to Darwin .. very very odd !

Invasion Support action off Lautem

22 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
xAKL Patris



xAKL Patris fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards



Elsewhere in burma the medium bombers of the Commonwealth AF struck at the advancing japanese troops and confirmed the presence of the Imperial guards Div along with a Tank Brigade. We should be able to stand at Manadalay as we have several units coming to reinforce Burma, No sign of japanese fighters but then again the hurricanes tasked with escort were rained in too thankfully. I'll not risk them tomorrow as these bomber pilots are darn good and i'm really looking forward to getting wellies !.

Morning Air attack on Imperial Guards Division, at 57,47 (Magwe)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 23


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/3/2010 11:28:07 PM   
LoBaron


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Status: offline 		I think you are right. Its no and yes.
The yes only because of support troops and potential leadership rolls though.

Hell of a fight with AVG! I see one is making double ace soon. If he lives. Good man.

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/5/2010 11:29:53 AM   
LoBaron


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A good day for the defenders at Bataan who repelled yed another attack.
I had a gut feeling that the attack was imminent, so changed the two tank Bts - until now held in reserve -
to combat mode. And it paid off as it seems.

Ground combat at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 69811 troops, 802 guns, 440 vehicles, Assault Value = 2112

Defending force 49459 troops, 939 guns, 754 vehicles, Assault Value = 1440

Japanese adjusted assault: 501

Allied adjusted defense: 951

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4666 casualties reported
Squads: 40 destroyed, 198 disabled
Non Combat: 66 destroyed, 237 disabled
Engineers: 37 destroyed, 36 disabled
Vehicles lost 113 (54 destroyed, 59 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1530 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 183 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 239 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 26 disabled
Vehicles lost 47 (2 destroyed, 45 disabled)


Don´t know but this must hurt. At least a bit. He already lost a lot of vehicles that are not so easy to replace
for Japan.
On the other hand forts dropped to 1 the day before, so I give it a higher than 50/50 chance that next time the attack
will succeed.


NZ Convoy is ready to roll in 1 or 2 turns, it will deviate far to the south before heading west. In case it arrives in
time capturing Noumea will be much harder for Mike, theres a lot of shiny stuff loaded which is designed to discourage
Japanese ambitions.

Up to the north I am slowly strenghening the Aleuthians. I like the position of these island. A Japanese offensive there is
only designed to deny, so I can live with that.
In case Mike decides not to attack there the slow crawl in the direction of the HI´s will continue over the next months to come.


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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/5/2010 6:35:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sadly the chinese had the opposite day !

I had the suspicion i had been suckered into advacing out of the treeline and into a trap ! ,, and lo and behold i was right but too late to do much about it. foryuately that oops feeling made me put the men back to combat mode as theywere in move mode to get away asap but when the unit count for japan hit 5 i swopped it over. Initially it was just 1 (hence the bait).


Round 1

Ground combat at 86,43

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 31862 troops, 252 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 1086

Defending force 34480 troops, 190 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1114

Japanese adjusted assault: 706

Allied adjusted defense: 690

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1938 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 169 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 113 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled


Allied ground losses:
1314 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 181 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 170 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled


at the end of day 1 i was hopeful i could hold and make it back to the safety of the trees.

OOPS

Day 2


Ground combat at 86,43

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30086 troops, 252 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 951

Defending force 32601 troops, 190 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 958

Japanese adjusted assault: 574

Allied adjusted defense: 255 HUGE DROP from 690

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-), supply(-) looks like supply collapsed , not an unusual situaution in china.
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1023 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 114 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 95 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled


Allied ground losses:
11899 casualties reported
Squads: 199 destroyed, 85 disabled
Non Combat: 392 destroyed, 146 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 13

Diveretd 2 semi ok corps to the retreat hex and i'll pull back the worst damaged ones to Sian and try and fix the disabled squads, the destroyed ones are gone for good sadly.




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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/7/2010 8:19:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello again

We spotted some japanese naval activity around Singkawang and raider force 1 (the biggie) went to investigate , only a lone AK found but it was duly sunk and the task force headed home to batavia with flags flying and dutch fighters overhead in case of netties in the area.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 16, 42

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 56,88, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Kinsyo Maru, Shell hits 18, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Cornwall
CA Exeter
CL Sumatra
CL De Ruyter
CL Tromp
CL Enterprise
CL Danae
CL Dragon
CL Mauritius
DD Pope
DD Whipple
DD Vendetta

Other than a lot more american ASW activity the turn was pretty quiet , japans gobbling up empty bases behind the lines and the allies had to disband all those juicy P40 and DB units (on the 15th) or get a huge PP penalty. I suspect thats one date japan always remembers and i expect some enemy action around darwin/java soon. Oddly Japan still hasnt advanced into singapore ?? most odd as dutch transport planes have pulled out the heavy AA guns along with the III indian corps HQ and (maybe gamey/pointless) cadres of the 2 remaining behind indian divisions. there isnt much more i can pull out of singapore tbh . if and when japan moves in and it looks like a foregone conclusion ill try and pull some more indian troops out but untill then nada.

China is the main event right now , AVG has pulled out for a refit to P40B's while the remaining H41's go to the nascent chinese Air force. Swopping over these units is proving more problematical than expected , Anyone help on why i cant swop a 27 plane unit to 26 P40B's ? ok 1 plane short but that hasnt prevented me pulling in chinese and australian planes with lower than max numbers. I'll post a screenie if the problem persists and read the manual if all else fails .

anyway i got side tracked .. china .. Japan has pulled back in the North as i 'yhink' they are worried about a flanking move by the chinese , in truth this flanker is a tiny /c div pretending to be dangerous , looks like it worked and i hope that supply will now run back up here ,, not 100% sure it can tbh , even with the pull feature because of the long long road system. The other bad news is japans advance into the woods hot on the heels of the routed chinese , no chance of moving in reinforcemnets yet (but 3 corps ( good ones too) are moving in there. Lets just hope that the terrain can stop him as we do now have supply for the remaining men.






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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/11/2010 9:55:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sad news today, as expected Bataan has fallen after a final assault on the last defenses on Mar 21, 42.
This frees up a major Japanese army for new destianations, tying these troops to the Philipines was the
last honorable task of the defenders.
So where will they go? Will they be used in the invasion of Java, which is sure to follow soon, will they be used
to push the US back in the Pacific, dash south to capture the north of Australia? Move to India?

The fall of Bataan is a significant event in the early war, as in my opinion from then on the uncertainty
increases by a factor and it adds to the thrill and the always lingering question "Is my timing right?"


Meanwhile in the south Indianapolis, escorted by CL Leander again assaulted a small landing party at the
southern tip of New Guinea, teaching the troops how to swim:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Kiriwina Island at 102,131, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAKL Amakasu Maru, Shell hits 11, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis
CL Leander

Japanese ground losses:
581 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)


And then they ran headlong into a trap, Mike implemented some lessons learned from the DEI and a couple
of other engagements and this time suddently big guns opened up at the unsuspecting raiders:

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
BB Nagato, Shell hits 2
CL Tenryu
DD Yukikaze
DD Shiranui

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis, Shell hits 5
CL Leander, Shell hits 4

Thankfully the capatain of Indianapolis, while surprized, got the situation right and disengaged into the nearly
moonless night with only a bit of paint scratched off both ships.
We have to be more careful from now on.

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/11/2010 9:58:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		PS: Congrats to Rob as his Hurricanes fought a first engagement in Burma against the feared Zekes and came out on
top, shooting down at least 12 of the nimble fighters while only losing 4 of their own!

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RE: LoBaron + Robbrennan vs Offenceman, allied secret AAR - 11/11/2010 7:21:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the compliment there LoBaron , The hurricanes did rather well on a sweep over Magwe from Mandalay , allied pilot losses were only 1 as 3 of the hurris crashed while landing. for a first engagement vs the zero the commonwealth pilots did rather well. however it should be noted that every pilot was between 60-70 air2air and had decent exp and defence skills too. I suspect it was defence skills that made 3 damaged and got home vs 3 destroyed over enemy base. a very valuable skill imo.

The hurris will be doing the same tomorrow and the mediums and heavies from calcutta will try and hit any a/c sat on the runways , lets hope and pray the sweeps arrive 1st , given the 2 hex range i would imagine so. (fingers crossed).

Over in China the japanese have resumed bomber training after a weeks holiday from the AVG competition. also the previous japanese victory that pushed me back into the treeline between lanchow and Sian attacked again but i had managed to get 1 of the 3 new corps into positon and they thankfully bounced ! phew .

Ground combat at 85,43

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 55408 troops, 466 guns, 180 vehicles, Assault Value = 1890

Defending force 27705 troops, 199 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 720

Japanese adjusted assault: 626

Allied adjusted defense: 1537

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2679 casualties reported
Squads: 39 destroyed, 192 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 159 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled


Allied ground losses:
1983 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 133 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled


Assaulting units:
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
36th Division
17th Division
8th Ind.Mixed Brigade
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade
15th Division
138th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
15th Chinese Corps
9th Chinese Corps
8th New Chinese Corps
7th New Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
40th Chinese Corps
98th Chinese Corps
3rd Construction Regiment
24th Group Army
36th Group Army
14th Group Army
39th Group Army
4th Chinese Base Force
15th Group Army
10th Chinese Base Force

I'll be rotating the badly damaged units for semi fresh ones who have spent the entire game resting in sian upto now.

Over in the DEI , the lesser (20xp) dutch units are rotating via train in and out of thier designated areas (ie prepped for) to get thier exp up , i though max was 45 for dutch but ones made 46 , ditto for china too , maye i got lucky on the last roll ?

Also in the DEI the dutch and brit planes have been upgrading to better units the slow short ranged dunth 1E bombers are now in shiny new B25's and the newly arroved P40E's have been parcelled out to the best fighter unit (s). One question just in case anyone knows

1) when i take new planes listed as dutch in the plane upgrade screen are these planes also avialable to the US ? as Lenny has stated he's only got 1 B25 in the pool. I looked at the B25 reinforcement schedule and it seems that they arrive 3/42 for the Dutch and 8/42 for the Yanks. I suppose i could ask Lenny or just check it on map myself but the turns away for now and i'll forget by tomorrow


One Top Tip for any DEI player , get at least one AF in java upto a level 5 or you don't get access to the better planes as the game needs L5 AF and 20k supply seems to be the min needed. Using a ton of AKL's to shuttle supply from sumatra to java is a must too as sumatra has way too much for its needs and java can always use more . Draw supply button is really useful in this case as you can draw it south and load it up with batavia only 2 hexes away (NB beware jap subs in the straight however) !

Thats all folks , we'll be posting more as and when it actally happens

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