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RE: For the Purists September 9. 1939 - 12/23/2015 12:42:57 AM   
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You quit and they got me, that was your fault Extraneous, Mwif got the worst of that deal, trully wished you had stayed.

Bo


It couldn't have happened to a better person than you Bo Muhahahahahahahahah


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Truly amazing.

Minor picky, in your OOB for the Pedestal convoys you have the RN CV's loaded with Fairey Sea Hurricanes, they should be Hawker Sea Hurricanes.



JeffK thanks for the heads up


Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

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RE: For the Purists September 9. 1939 - 12/23/2015 2:40:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Amazing amount of research and work here! Thanks so much!
I'd also be interested in knowing if there are "historical" naval set-ups for the various scenarios, especially Global War!

Has anyone done this?

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RE: For the Purists September 9. 1939 - 12/23/2015 12:31:26 PM   
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Amazing amount of research and work here! Thanks so much!
I'd also be interested in knowing if there are "historical" naval set-ups for the various scenarios, especially Global War!

Has anyone done this?
warspite1

I think a global war set up would be pretty easy for some countries e.g. the UK, France, Germany (except you can't start Graf Spee, Deutschland and the U-boats at sea (or indeed any ships that were on patrol or between ports at the outbreak of war)) - less so for others e.g The Soviet Union is okay for the start of Barbarossa, but data on the USSR on 1st September is perhaps more tricky. But even with the latter, because of the scale here, I don't think there is any great issue e.g. we know what Soviet ships were in what fleet, if you happened to put a ship in Sevastopol that actually started in Batumi, then its not going to affect the game. The only nation I would be less than 100% confident on producing something accurate for would be Japan 1st September 1939.


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RE: For the Purists September 9. 1939 - 12/23/2015 12:46:46 PM   
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I think a global war set up would be pretty easy for some countries e.g. the UK, France, Germany (except you can't start Graf Spee, Deutschland and the U-boats at sea (or indeed any ships that were on patrol or between ports at the outbreak of war)) - less so for others e.g The Soviet Union is okay for the start of Barbarossa, but data on the USSR on 1st September is perhaps more tricky. But even with the latter, because of the scale here, I don't think there is any great issue e.g. we know what Soviet ships were in what fleet, if you happened to put a ship in Sevastopol that actually started in Batumi, then its not going to affect the game. The only nation I would be less than 100% confident on producing something accurate for would be Japan 1st September 1939.



Nihon Kaigun: Imperial Japanese Navy Page

Has the Tabular Records of Movement (TROM) for each ship (Kaga starts at 1920 and was in port during September 1939).



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RE: For the Purists September 9. 1939 - 12/23/2015 4:01:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Extraneous


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I think a global war set up would be pretty easy for some countries e.g. the UK, France, Germany (except you can't start Graf Spee, Deutschland and the U-boats at sea (or indeed any ships that were on patrol or between ports at the outbreak of war)) - less so for others e.g The Soviet Union is okay for the start of Barbarossa, but data on the USSR on 1st September is perhaps more tricky. But even with the latter, because of the scale here, I don't think there is any great issue e.g. we know what Soviet ships were in what fleet, if you happened to put a ship in Sevastopol that actually started in Batumi, then its not going to affect the game. The only nation I would be less than 100% confident on producing something accurate for would be Japan 1st September 1939.



Nihon Kaigun: Imperial Japanese Navy Page

Has the Tabular Records of Movement (TROM) for each ship (Kaga starts at 1920 and was in port during September 1939).


warspite1

Mmmm that is a lot of searching - I think I'd try Rohwer first


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RE: For the Purists September 9. 1939 - 12/24/2015 3:28:10 PM   
Extraneous

 

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You know the write ups aren't easy. You have done plenty of them.


It could be done but it won't be done by me.



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RE: For the Purists September 9. 1939 - 12/24/2015 4:45:28 PM   
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Your taking the easy way out

You know the write ups aren't easy. You have done plenty of them.


It could be done but it won't be done by me.


warspite1

No I wasn't taking any way out - or suggesting any course of action to you and your particular project. I was suggesting what I would do if I was asked to provide an OOB for MWIF as at September 1939. In such a scenario, given that certain powers start as neutrals, and given the scale of the game, and given that not all starting positions can be replicated anyway, and given that some ships are not even realistic in terms of their employment in 1939, then I would be happy to use a less time consuming methodology for those neutral nations (USSR and USA) and even Japan which was only at war with China.

If one is doing OOBs - in the detail you are - then I perfectly understand why you would not adopt such an approach - and I have not suggested you do so there really is no need for waggly fingers and frustration emojis .


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RE: For the Purists September 9. 1939 - 12/24/2015 5:35:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I never knew that the Japanese could send cruisers 1.000 miles up the Yangtzé River. Interesting website about the Japanese fleet, especially regarding the action in China... Perhaps we should allow shore bombardment from cruisers at Wuhan and Nanking...

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