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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/10/2011 10:08:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I only have about 1 German, 1 Romanian and 1 Italian corps at the Krim and doubt that I will be able to take it, but I will surely try.

Supply down there is my main problem at the moment, preventing me from taking Simferopol at the moment.

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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/10/2011 11:00:55 PM   
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420t of supplies are dropped at the units at the Krim, in addition the units are set to refit mode.

2 deliberate attacks on the Krim by 2 divisions each manage to force the Soviet defenders to retreat again. While 1 battle lost 51 men while taking out 1.3k Soviets the other one was fairly bad, 0.8k men lost for 1.4k Soviets. Sadly one of my German divisions here is set to withdraw soon.

Overall 16.6k Soviets and 1.4k Germans died due to small scale attacks along the fairly well supplied parts of the front and at the Krim (the Krim accounts for about 60% of German casualties).


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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/11/2011 12:29:50 AM   
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All mobile units are now sitting on the raillines waiting if/when/where they will be needed to stop Soviet attacks.

I am disbanding a couple of my fairly empty airbases, no need to have them drain my motor pool.

The German division at the Krim is done, this will not make things easier down here...

800t of supplies were dropped at the Krim this turn. Again 2 divisions were forced to retreat and this time I am able to advance one hex towards Sevastopol since my railhead come closer.

2k vs. 29k loses this turn and the Soviets are back at 3.1 million men, this might become an interesting winter...

My motor pool is at 124k (129k) and my truck loses are down to 3.6k this turn, lets see if disbanding the airbases helps, too.

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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/11/2011 7:37:02 PM   
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Since XXXXVIII Panzer is fully rested and I need help in taking Sevastopol they are railed to Nikolaev and will rush to the Krim during the snow turns, hopefully being able to take Sevastopol before the blizzards hit.

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Motor pool: 127k (133k)

Only 1.9k trucks lost due to moving supplies, but I have to keep in mind that the mud is replaced by snow, so it is hard to say how much of an influence disbanding the airbases had.

With deliberate attacks pretty much along the complete front I see a lot of understrength Soviet units which is promissing for the coming turns. Especially if the Soviets keep moving up right to my frontline and me being able to push them back again for some turns.

I think the attacks are very esay this turn since the Soviets are still at mud supply levels, right? But whatever the reason, I even attack across rivers here.

2 Soviets divisions north of Sevastopol are being pushed back again and my leading infantry divisions is only 3 hexes away from Sevastopol now, but I can already see a lvl4 fortress to the NE of it, this will most likely get very ugly.

About 400t of fuel were dropped at XXXXVIII Panzer's HQ.

In the end the Soviets lost about 108k men, 1.5k guns and 0.1k AFVs and 18 units were destroyed. The Germans lost 8k men and 0.2k guns - overall just about 5% of the battles were lost.

I am thinking about railing my mobile forces back to Poland/Germany since I doubt they will be useful during the blizzards. This would free up some towns/cities for my infantry to use during the blizzards, too. What do you think about moving the Panzer back home?


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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/11/2011 8:26:28 PM   
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What do you think about moving the Panzer back home?


I really struggle when I see ahistorical strategies being proposed.

There is nothing in the rules to prevent this being done so who I am to say do otherwise.

I do think it is a slippery slope though - I stopped playing WIR when I realised how stupid it was to be garrisoning France with the Rumanian Army, and manipulated the collapse of the Italian front, and manipulating production to get Me262s early etc..etc.............

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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/11/2011 9:16:01 PM   
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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/11/2011 10:42:45 PM   
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The motor pool is at 129k (132k)

Well, first things first, lets head to the Krim.

2 armored and 1 mot division of XXXXVIII attack the Soviet lvl 4 fort blocking access to Sevastopol with heavy bomber support and are able to rout the 3 defending Soviet divisions, but losses are fairly high. The second mot division rushes in to secure the hex.

The level 5 fortress in Sevastopol doen not looks very good either, but at least at the moment I can see 1 brigade in addition to 1 rifle division and 1 guards cav division.

In the northern part of the Krim the Italians try to force their way towards the port of Kerch in the east, but are only able to force a single Soviet brigade to retreat.

Except at about 10 places the Soviet brigades having returned to the frontline are pushed back again, about 5% of the battles were lost - this should help with the win:loss ratios of my leaders ;)

Way less casualties for the Soviets than on the previous turn, about 60k and 0.7k guns vs. 7.2k and 0.1k guns for Germany.






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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/12/2011 11:18:25 PM   
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The motor pool is at 129k (132k)

XXXXVIII Panzer's attack on Sevastopol is successfull and even less costly than the previous assault, but the odds were much closer here.

The Romanians are able to create a hole in the Soviet line and 25th Mot rushes through and isolates the units around Sevastopol and capture the port of Feodosiya - I just hope that the isolated brigades in the NW lack to MPs to isolate 25th Mot (but 25th Mot will need airdrops anyway since they have moved to far from their HQ).

Kerch and Ak-Manay seem to be fairly well defended, but for now the main objective of capturing Sevastopol has been reached - motorpool goes down to 129k (122k).

The attacks along the frontline yielded 50k men and 0.6k guns while losing 5.1k and 0.1 guns and 6 units were destroyed.

I am starting to disperse my units to cities and towns for the coming blizzard, but have no idea if I should try to keep my forces concentrated or try to cover as many towns as possible to avoid the effects of the blizzard.

I am moderately confident in the ability of my MTN to hold their parts of the line, especially in front of Moscow where the 2 German mountain divisions are stationed.

At other parts of the front I have mobile reserves, but around Kursk I basically lack anything. I think I should have moved XXXXVI or XXXXVII Panzer towards there instead of simply sending them this far to the west (will have to see what I can do at the end of this turns movement without exposing them too much to the blizzard).

My most likely last attacks for the season gave me another 50k lost men for the Soviets in addition to 600 guns, now most likely the picture will turn around and I will be pressed hard.

The Soviets are back at reasonable strength again, too, and the winter is far from over.






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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/12/2011 11:53:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Any tips on how to best get through the blizzards or any other ideas?

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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/13/2011 12:56:33 AM   
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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/13/2011 7:17:59 AM   
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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/13/2011 7:26:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, those Soviets at the Krim are isolated, those will not be the problem.

I am afraid about their 3 million+ weather hardened borthers-in-arms here ;)

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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/13/2011 9:28:49 PM   
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At the Krim I launch some minor operations vs. the isolated Soviets and move my armor up to the 1 hex landbridge, hoping to either force the defenders to rout, or if I can only manage a retreat to have enough MPs for an additional attack vs. the fortress they have retreated to. Luftflotte 4 made it out od the blizzard and should be able to provide some ground support as well.

Elsewhere - except for the 2 mountain divisions to the east of Moscow and some Finnish divisions in the north that attack and force the Soviets to retreat I just have to wait for the Soviet attacks here.

A fair number of Soviet forces have shown up around Orel and Rostov, but I have some reserves in those areas.

XXXXVI Panzer is still heading east to act as reserves if the area around Kursk should come under pressure.

Overall the initiative is with the Soviets and I have to wait for better weather.

75k men were lost by Germany at the end of the last turn, the Soviets only lost 39k during this turn. Overall Soviet manpower is still on the rise (+100k), but Germany managed to get some additional manpower as well (+20k), but around 200 tanks broke down due to the weather.






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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/14/2011 3:04:02 PM   
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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/14/2011 11:01:56 PM   
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90k men lost this turn, ouch...

The Soviets tried some attacks along the front, mostly from Kharkov to Orel, but were repulsed 3 times out of 4. Of the 3 additional attacks to the NW of Moscow 2 didnt get through, too.

The attack to the south of Tula worries me the most since it might grow into a real breakthrough, but with 2 armored divisions from XXIV Panzer one rifle and 1 armored brigade are forced to retreat/rout and infantry moves in to fill the hole.

The cav corps that has penetrated the line between Kalinin and Moscow is forced to retreat as well.

After their successfull attacks the 2 MTN divisions to the est of Moscow are resupplied by air.

At the Krim XXXXVIII finally was able to displace the Soviets at the lvl 4 fort, I got lucky here in that the 2 routed Soviet units did not recover and I have been able to displace the single armor brigade. I try moving only 1 armored division to the front with the 2 others resting 1 hex behind it, hopefully recovering some strength.

Since I simply cant afford to wait till the blizzards are over (the routed Soviet units will be able to recover in the meantime) I have to keep pushing till Kersh is taken.

With supplies starting to run low I have to be more selective in the attacks the Finnish forces are attempting.

At the remaining frontline the situation is about as bad and with more and more Soviet forces showing up there it is only a matter of time before we will have several breaches here.

I will have to move in additional reserves from the west here and the next turns will most likely get ugly.

XXXXVII Panzer is moved towards the gap between Orel and Kursk while XL Panzer heads towards Moscow and XXXIX Panzer moves into their former positions around Smolensk.

LVII Panzer moves from Rzhev towards the west of Torzhok to provide backup there.

The first units of XXXXVI Panzer are supporting infantry to the south of Voronezh which is really low on ammo.


I have expected the first winter to be bad, but not this bad to be honest. Especially my supplies keep getting lower and lower despite having enough trucks and a decent railway net in place.

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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/15/2011 11:04:27 AM   
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Slow progress on the Krim, but I might get there in the end. Despite having a lot of fighters in range they refuse to scramble in order to protect my transports (seems I got bad luck on the rolls here) and 30 transports are shot down.

There have been 2 successfull Soviet attacks around Tula and between Moscow and Kalinin as well, I will have to bring some of my reserves from Leningrad south.

LI Korps gets onto the rail and starts to move south, will try to use them to bolster the defenses in the center, XXVIII Korps will take their former position.

II Korps moves SE to take the positions of I Korps next turn.

And X Korps starts to move into XXXVIII Korps positions.

LVI Panzer moves into Leningrad to take over the positions vacated by the infantry, in addition it should be easier there for the tanks anyway.

XXXXI Panzer (Heeresgruppe Nord - AGN) will be railed towards Rzhev to take over for LVII Panzer of Heeresgruppe Mitte (AGC) who will be send south on the next turn, but since I have exceeded my rail capacity for this turn only 1 armor division can actually be moved this turn (around Smolensk now). XXXIX Panzer will be railed to Tula.

I should have started moving my northern reserves earlier and brought the other reserves to the center, but I have been surprised by the ferocity of the blizzards and have to see what I can stitch together on short notice now and with rail capacity being a real bottleneck.

XXIV Panzer moves up to the frontline around Tula to bolster the line as does XXXXVI Panzer to the south of Voronezh. I hate moving my armor to the front, but with facing Soviet combined CVs of around 20 I dont see many alternatives at the moment.

III and XIV Panzer are still kept in reserve around Stalino for now, but I will not rule out having to use those, too, before the blizzards are over.

And I will try to see if moving some of my Finnish forces one hex away from the frontline will improve their supply situation (it should IIRC).

Since we have blizzards anywhere I will switch the weather display off, making it easier to read the map.






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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/15/2011 7:09:01 PM   
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At the Krim my divisions are still slowly heading east and manage to isolate 3 Soviet units (for now). The airbases are moved closer to the front.

LVII Panzer tries to give my infantry some more time to get into their defensive positions and drives back a guards cav corps for now and helps another division to hold the line/dig in.

I am starting to ask myself where did I lose such a large number of battles that I am facing tons of guards cav corps here or do they show up as guards reinforcements for the Soviets?

VI Korps is send to bolster the line to the north of Moscow.

The main body of XXXXI Panzer reaches Smolensk.

LI Korps arrives at Orel and gets of the rail, parts of IX Korps are freed up to move towards Tula with mot having to fill their position in the line till LI is completely deployed.

With my remaining rail cap at 9.7k moving XXXIX Panzer to the front will have to wait for another turn.

Around Tula the last reserves are thrown into the line and counterattack a Soviet CV-6 stack, just being able to rout them. But the remaining combined Soviet CV is still around 21 in the area.

FBD3 is railed to Orel in order to repair the railline towards Tula.

Around Voronezh the situation is starting to get critical, too, with the Soviets only 1 hex away from encircling the city. and supplies being very low (10%-20%, ammo around 30%), but the Luftwaffe manages to deliver 190t of supplies.

1st Romanian mountain brigade is able to push back a Soviet rifle division and keeps the city open for now. And a bit further to the south 10th Panzer is able to force a cav corps that has penetrated the lines to rout.

With the situation to the east of Kharkov getting worse, too, III Panzer starts to move north.

In the north I try to see if I might the Soviets a little bit to worry about (and divert some units) by heading east with the northernmost Finnish brigades.

Only one third of the blizzard season is over and while my lines mainly held so far I am sure that the point will come when they will break down completely in some areas. It will be interesting where the frontline will be 2 months from now.

Any ideas what I can do to survive the next 2 months without giving away too much ground or losing a large number of men?






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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/16/2011 12:38:00 PM   
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The Soviets made it right next to Tula, but by now XXXXVII Panzer is close/rested enough to move 2 divisions into the city - CV 7 in combination with a level 4 fortress should hopefully be able to hold the Soviets for some time.

In addition the Soviets made 3 breakthroughs around Voronezh. III Panzer is able to contain the southernmost advance, while the infantry takes care of the one to the north of it.

The breakthrough to the north of Voronezh is the most serious one with a Soviet combined CV of around 16 and the only still unengaged units around are the reserves of XXXIX Panzer which will be missed around Orel.

I am seriously thinking about shortening the frontline here and pull back from Voronezh, but would hate to give up 7 lvl 3 and 1 lvl 4 fortress. Putting more strain on the Soviet line of supply surely cant hurt. Maybe during the next turn.

XXXXI Panzer reaches Rhzev and after routing a Soviet tank brigade LVII Panzer is starting to move south in order to get to the railway.

In order to regain some MP I start to disband some of the fortified positions far in the west.

The Finns in the north still keep crawling east, hoping to get a Soviet reaction.

XIV Panzer will still be kept as a reserve around Stalino since the pressure is rising in the south, too, but once I get enough rail capacity LVI Panzer in Leningrad will be moved towards the front, too.

At the Krim Kerch is finally within reach of XXXXVIII Panzer, in addition 2 Soviet divisions have been cut off.


The Soviets are nearly ahead by 1 million men again and made up their tank losses, too - in addition a lost of those German tanks are damaged - as well as nearly having reached the German number of guns.

Unless I get a couple of miracle battle results here I see no real alternative to pulling back and hoping that the Soviets will run into some supply problems. The only problem is that I am afraid that my fairly short pullback will not be enough to accomplish that. But at least it will allow me to use the small number of units I have available more efficiently.

Sadly the Soviets have the numbers to simply steamroll my forces despite taking horrendous losses (without the weather effects the loss ratio on the Soviet attacks is about 30:1), but they can afford those. Sounds a bit familiar... ;)

What do you think, should I cut my losses and run or cling to those fairly nice fortifications? Or maybe do the smaller pullback keeping more lvl 3 forts?






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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/16/2011 1:03:33 PM   
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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/16/2011 3:40:17 PM   
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What do you think about moving the Panzer back home?


I really struggle when I see ahistorical strategies being proposed.

There is nothing in the rules to prevent this being done so who I am to say do otherwise.

I do think it is a slippery slope though - I stopped playing WIR when I realised how stupid it was to be garrisoning France with the Rumanian Army, and manipulated the collapse of the Italian front, and manipulating production to get Me262s early etc..etc.............


People will always try to optimize an outcome within a system, and every simulation has it's own issues, the more open the system, the more open to "abuse".

Soviet players can also more or less concentrate on preserving their forces in the first few turns even though the loss of territory without a fight this strategy entails would be absolutely impossible in real life.

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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/16/2011 5:25:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, in the end, as can be seen I decided to keep it semi historic. Rather trying to reinforce my current positions and clinging to the gains I made than retreating.

But now for me the time has come to straighten my lines since the pressure is starting to reach catastrophic levels.

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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/16/2011 6:36:00 PM   
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K, time to cut my losses and move into a more defensible position around Kursk/Kharkov. For the moment I will try to hold the alternative frontline from the last screenshot, allowing me to incorportate more level 3 forts into the line.

Some of my mobile units are put at the new defensive line, too, mainly in order to get higher fortification levels faster, I hope to be able to pull them back behind the line later.

I cant be too hasty in my withdrawl, otherwise I run the risk of some of my units getting isolated - but on the other hand I cant be too slow, either.

With the number and strength of Soviet forces I doubt that holding a new (currently in some places unfortified) line will be easy, I might have to fall back to the original line of defense, soon.

LVI is starting to move by rail from Leningrad towards the Tula/Kursk/Kharkov area.

The Soviet rifle division right next to Tula is forced to retreat for now.

At the Krim Kerch finally falls, isolating the remaining Soviet units.

To the east of Stalino the Soviets slipped a tank brigade through my lines and displaced 2 HQs, 9th Panzer rout them back behind their lines. And I move a mot division infront of the 2 HQs to prevent them being replaced again.

In the north the Finns keep slowly pushing eastwards and it looks like the AI is starting to move some units my way.

ComradeP brought up an interesting subject in his AAR, he disbanded is garisson HQs, I already have wondered myself what their use might be if you only plan to use security forces behind your own lines, it seems that there is no use, so they will vanish from my OOB as well.

Since not much is going on elsewhere just a close up screenshot of the Kursk/Kharkov area.






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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/17/2011 10:15:21 PM   
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The Soviets have reacted to my little attacks in the north, time to move back the Finns for now.

So far my line keeps holding, but I start to get some unready units here due to low manpower - more fortified zones are disbanded to regain some manpower.

With LVI Panzer and fresh infantry units arriving by rail around Orel I might be able to stabilise the situation for a bit longer. Hopefully I might even replace some of my mobile units in the line with infantry.

But for now I still have to put more armor/mot on the line as soon as they arrive - like LVI Panzer around Orel.

I had to drop tons of supplies directly to my units since there seems to be a large problem with getting supplies from the HQs - who have usually about 200t - to the frontline (motor pool?)

Having to react all the time instead of being able to take the initiative is starting to bug me, and 5-6 more turns of blizzards, oh joy. Mainly it is the feeling of helplessness I think - I would make a lousy Soviet player ;)






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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/17/2011 11:25:00 PM   
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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/18/2011 12:04:58 AM   
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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/18/2011 12:12:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi and thanks for this excellent AAR!!! I really like your style of writing and will follow this one closely.

Quick question: Why not put your defensive lines behind rivers as far as possible?

The attack penalties across rivers, combined with decent fort levels would help alot one might think, but what would I know...still haven't played the game :(  But as far as I understand the game, it does not really matter much if there are a few hexes to the nearest RR for your defending units as long as you have a HQ nearby, so any rivers really would do as long as they interconnect as much as possible in a relatively straight line all the way from north to south.

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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/18/2011 12:32:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you, essentially I dont use rivers here since they are frozen anyway, so they will provide no bonus during the winter (have to read the manual about his one again to be sure, but I think that's the way it works).

The main problem during the winter so far has been the low levels of supply that reach my frontline units, that's why I try to keep all units as close to the rails as possible. But IIRC the units will only start to draw supplies from the rail if their HQ is out of reach, so keeping units there might not be needed in the end.

Basically I would recommend reading the manual especially in regard to supplies and the weather before the winter hits, I didnt and suppose that there are some things I might have done better. I have currently started my first real reading of the manual and have only skimmed it twice before.

Another thing I have to look up is if swamps still provide any bonus to defense during the winter, I suppose they don't, but am not sure about this, too.

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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/18/2011 1:58:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is really a fascinating AAR. I'm quite shocked given the mauling that you've put on the Soviets that they're still hanging around. I am guessing that spring and summer of 1942 is going to be disastrous for them, but as I've never progressed in the game that far (haven't even seen mud or winter yet) who knows.

I'm currently on my 4th game, three times Road to Smolensk with my fourth game being the Grand Campaign 41 as the Germans on normal. Honestly, in reading through your AAR and looking at your screenshots I can't seem to figure out how you so constantly keep your armored formations so mobile. Mine are at a point where they seem to be in the 12-20 MP range. I try not to fight with them much at all, but I do move them a lot. As I haven't read the manual, i only noticed just now in one of your screenshots that you can see how far they are from rails in the mouseover pop up. I know they have to be 24 MP from a railhead, but I had no idea how people were calculating that so I never paid attention to it. Now that I know, I can hopefully get them moving again. Too bad too, because I'm at the start of Turn 7 with 1.6 million russians down and their lines actually have gaps in them for the first time where if I were mobile I could really put some pain on them this turn.

Oh well, back to the fray and very much looking forward to the rest of you AAR to see how the Blizzard turns out as well as see how the power shifts back to the Germans in the Spring. Honestly, i don't think you can be much more successful than you've been for the most part, so I would assume that you're going to put a real hurt on the Soviets in the Spring and bring the campaign to a close before you have to deal with any mud again in 1942.

One more comment - as for doing ahistorical things, I think the whole point of the game is not to repeat history. Example, Stalin's initial conduct of the campaign was disastrous and they should have retreated from the outset, so i certainly don't find a soviet strategy of cut and run from day 1 "ahistorical" in the slightest. That's the point of the game.

Finally, for those of you who study history, check out Operation Barbarossa, Hitler's Defeat in the East. Great historical study of how the Germans lost the campaign by August of 41 which focuses very much on the trucks/transport and grinding down of the panzer formations. This game is somewhat like that book brought to life.

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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/18/2011 3:16:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Excellent AAR sir, you have done a fantastic job managing your forces so far and believe me you have, I am currently in the blizzard turns in my game as the Russian player and my total forces are over 6 million so you should be fine as the Russian will not have the forces to drive you back. The very things that are limiting you will limit him also. I am advancing slowly because supply is awful due to wrecked railroads, weather and dug in Germans and that's with 6+ million men. They also have to dig you out of the cities, no easy task. I think you will win this one going away once the blizzards end. He simply does not have the forces to push you back as far as I can see.



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RE: German 1941 GC - normal - 1/18/2011 3:25:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow I can't believe you still can pull of offensives in Winter.

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