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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/13/2011 3:17:04 AM   
Ketza


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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/13/2011 3:18:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 92 OOB - I would have never dreamed of these numbers a few patches ago. Too bad his army is huge as well!

I gave up on culling his air force a long time ago. It just grows no matter what. Are those numbers historical? Thats incredible.




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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/13/2011 3:23:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 92 German fighter status - A few squadrons with over 700 kills. Mid to late43 is when I start to lose whole squadrons to withdrawals and that is going to hurt.




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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/13/2011 3:26:36 AM   
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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/13/2011 3:30:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Top infantry - starting to trail off a bit due to heavy Soviet attacks in Kharkov area. Still overall not to shabby for March of 43. I think




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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/13/2011 3:32:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		And the Panzer Grenadier. The SS have arrived and its time for a massive reorganization of the armored forces when mud hits.




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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/13/2011 3:33:55 AM   
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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/13/2011 3:35:35 AM   
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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/13/2011 3:42:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		AGS - the area between the red lines has been where his offensive has been grinding forward. He has to fight for every single hex and for the most part gets counter attacked back in the area he gains hexes 2-3 times each turn. Overall the ratio each turn has been 2-1 to 3-1 in my favor. Most of my level 4 forts are gone but its fairly easy to build level 2s 3s behind the line before he breaks the one next to him. Static mode being somewhat useful now is going to be a big help.




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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/13/2011 11:27:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Numbers wise, you are in very good shape,historically in July 1943 GE frontline strength peaked at 3.5m, and the SU were at 6.8m. If you had started under 1.05, I think both sides would be very close to these numbers.

Territory wise, you are also close to the summer 1943 startline, with the bonus of the Leningrad/Finnish front.

Looking good so far for a tight finish, and we will see if the SU +1 rule makes any difference - I am still in the camp that says they might need it to achieve the rates of advance they achieved historically.


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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/15/2011 6:04:25 PM   
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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/15/2011 7:14:00 PM   
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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/15/2011 7:15:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Air losses his turn - His offensive against my bases continues. Good portion of losses are recon planes which is fine.




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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/15/2011 7:17:27 PM   
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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/15/2011 7:19:01 PM   
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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/15/2011 7:20:43 PM   
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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/15/2011 7:22:25 PM   
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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/22/2011 2:13:59 AM   
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95% of my frontline divisions are in static mode. By clear weather I will be back up to 500 APs in my pool for reaction to his offensives. I have a reserve of infantry divisions for reaction/offensive activities of around 25 full strength 100% toe infantry divisions. This is my attrition casualties per turn a far cry from 35-40k per turn I saw before. His attrition is still pretty heavy as his frontline units are not static.

He has withdrawn a lot of his corps from the front so who knows where he will strike this summer.




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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/24/2011 6:00:17 PM   
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This is my attrition casualties per turn a far cry from 35-40k per turn I saw before.


"Before": in 41/42 ? Or before you went static in 42/43 ?

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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/25/2011 1:47:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Static mode lowers atrition loses that much?

Pre 1.05 2.6 to 1 ratio was enough to grind down German Army.

I am guessing based on your data that thats not good enough for the Russian now. He will have to lower the ratio to 2.25 to 1. Your doing better then that with armor forses so if you counter attack allot more you will weaken hes forses long run. Also with the lower attrition your in good shape.

Can you give me an idea when he started attacking to the mud turn what your total troop count was?

Also is your gun numbers holding steady?

Hes got to get you down to 2.3 million men before your army breaks. Hes got a long long ways to go at his slow rate of attack. If hes only attacking 10 to 20 hexes a turn thats not enough to break you. Hes got to attack all along the long. 50+ a turn and that would take atleast a yr I am guessing if not more.

Hoooper took about 30 turns and I only had 3.o million men and about 25 to 30% of his attacks per turn were 1v1=2v1. He lost 1/2 the none 1v1=2v1 attacks, but because of the huge arm output back then he knew it would pay off in long run.

If you could track your and his losses, total guns and troops for 10 turns. If you post the OOB an dead list the first turn of summer and then 10 turns later I can figure it out for myself.

The trend will give you a guess at how things will long 40 or 50 turns down road

Pelton

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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/25/2011 9:14:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is good to see that Static mode can play a role in attrition management. While I doubt I would be brave enough to put 95% of the front into static, it looks like at 50% a substantial boost to manpower will be available.

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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/25/2011 1:17:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Attrition this turn was really low. When the front went mud a few turns ago was when I really kicked the static way up as an experiment.






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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/25/2011 1:21:54 PM   
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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/25/2011 11:30:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		What scares me about playing this game is a look at those German AFV numbers... nearlly 6000!!! Unbelievable! Aircraft die like flys in this game although they still kill way to many tanks but tanks do not die enough.
In '42 the Russians kept dipping under 3000 AFVs.

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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/26/2011 12:37:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looking over my AFVs and I found this to be odd. Is this accurate to have that many Panthers in so many divisions in the Spring of 43?




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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/26/2011 1:24:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		According to a source I read, by Army orders, 250 Panther D's were to be ready by mid-May. Another 600 were finished by September 1943.

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RE: Winter 1942 - 10/26/2011 10:37:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		looks like many panthers. U are lucky ketza .  I got a game on turn 92 and i got 200 panthers d. and looking at reinforcements i can see we get 2 panther bats with 96 each begining may and 20 produced each turn in addition to those.

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RE: Winter 1942 - 11/24/2011 2:21:36 AM   
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May 1943 -

Italians took a hit and I am taking them out of the line. Germany holds strong numbers wise. Panzers are in great shape the LW not so much.




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RE: Winter 1942 - 11/24/2011 2:23:41 AM   
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RE: Winter 1942 - 11/24/2011 2:25:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Last turns losses. I think the number is blown up from Italian disbands. I could not view any combats in the file nor did any show up on the map.




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