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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/10/2011 1:04:04 AM

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Update after issuing orders for the July 9, 1942 turn:

1. None of the IJN cruisers involved in the Battle of Oosthaven came from NoPac. So it's possible Steve still has four up there. I think he has at least one or two still present in SoPac. With five likely sunk, that leaves him just seven to work with. Some of those are almost surely escorting the KB. Conclusion: Steve will have to recall some cruisers to the DEI from distant seas. He will also need to be very careful about committing CAs in places like Pago Pago and the (eventual) invasions of Onnekotan Jima and Paramushiro.

2. The same thing holds true with his BBs.

3. With the turn of events on the 8th, I doubt he will feel up to invading Sumatra before he can retrieve some capital ships from SoPac and NoPac. This buys the Allies additional time to get ships back into action. I think things can be successfully juggled for the three weeks needed to get Repulse, Renown, North Carolina and Warspite on site.

4. The Allies are also gathering troops at Colombo - a force that will be used in an invasion time to coincide with the (eventual) IJ invasion of Sumatra. I'm leaning towards re-invading Sabang, though I will also consider Malaya or Thailand. (Yes, I know players may disagree with Sabang, but I like it best at the moment.) In three weeks or so the Allies will have roughly 2.5 divisions at Colombo and all should be 40% prepped.

5. Political Points continue to be a major problem. I have a couple of Indian units I want to buy and ship to Sumatra - reinforcements for the west flank at Padang and the south flank at Benkolen. But, dang, I just can't get enough political points.

6. I also want to buy some Canadian units to send to various Aleutians bases, thus freeing up American troops to proceed to reinforce Para and Onnekotan. Due to the dearth of PP, I doubt I'll have the luxury of making this expenditure in the next two months. So, I'm likely to leave some Aleutians bases lightly garrisoned, relying on the fact that a strong forward presence will draw all Steve's attention. Getting supplies and troops to the Kuriles bases will be a major objective in August. Wasp will lend a hand from a distance.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/10/2011 1:32:00 AM

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CR, in addition, to show the rather brittle nature of the IJN to losses, 4 of the 18 IJN CAs were older ships that sported only six 8" guns. Most of the other 14 carried ten 8" guns. These four did not carry the weight in armor protection that the other 14 did either. These weaker sisters were the Furutaka class CAs. However, to demonstrate that these ships still had sharp teeth, all four were at Savo Island (of the 5 CAs there). They, like all IJN CAs, carried the long lance. They sure put them to good use at Savo Is. Ironically, one of the 4 (Kako) was sunk by an S-boat retiring from the Savo victory.

All 18 are very valuable, tough and dangerous vessels. Generally, they were better than the US CAs until the Baltimore Class rolled out.

I'm an old naval minaturs guy and really got to know the strengths and weaknesses of various WW2 warships that way.

What Nemo laid on us about naval philosophies and fighting principles is really true. I'm glad the program models the naval fighting philosophies as well as it seems to. Not being a computer type, it is nice to have someone that has modeled these things with the computer discuss it. Thanks, Nemo.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/10/2011 1:38:47 AM

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As mentioned, Steve included in his email a question about the presence of Allied carrier aircraft on Sumatra.� His question may have been meant sarcastically, humorously, or with a touch of irritation if he felt the move is not quite "kosher" by his understanding of the way the game should be played (it's impossible to tell how he meant it due to the nature of email communication uncertainties).� I wanted to reply to his question, and I thought readers might be interested in the exchange:�Steve to Dan via email ealry this morning:� "Have you put all your carrier aircraft ar Oosthaven?"
�Dan to Steve via email early this evening:�"I can't answer your question directly without giving away information I don't want to give, so forgive me for not being direct.�"Sometimes you can tell from the combat report the origin of aircraft squadrons - whether they are from carriers or whatever.� Sometimes you can't.� Or maybe I just don't read them closely enough.�"Of course, the fact that there are Wildcats and SBDs might lead you to conclude their are carrier squadrons present, but Marine units also fly them.�"I won't say whether I have carrier squadrons in Sumatra, but I will say that I wouldn't hesitate to use them there if I thought they were needed."

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/10/2011 3:12:29 AM

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Personally, I think he is a cad to even ask the question. I would not have answered at all.

Neither is it gamey. The Japanese sure did it in late 42. They debarked their naval squadrons at Rabaul and made a massive effort with them to clear the waters around Guadacanal of Allied shipping (with little sucess). They lost a good number of very well trained pilots for their efforts and achieved little, but they did it.

The point is that it not only is sometimes smart to do it, there are ample historical precedents for the move.

Besides, there's no crying in warfare.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/10/2011 3:44:21 AM

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As I've said before in this and other AARs, in my opinion "dismounting" carrier squadrons cannot be considered gamey as both sides did it for extended periods IRL. On some occasions the "mother" CVs were damaged, on other occasions they were not.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/10/2011 4:36:57 PM

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As mentioned, Steve included in his email a question about the presence of Allied carrier aircraft on Sumatra.� His question may have been meant sarcastically, humorously, or with a touch of irritation if he felt the move is not quite "kosher" by his understanding of the way the game should be played (it's impossible to tell how he meant it due to the nature of email communication uncertainties).� I wanted to reply to his question, and I thought readers might be interested in the exchange:�Steve to Dan via email ealry this morning:� "Have you put all your carrier aircraft ar Oosthaven?"
�Dan to Steve via email early this evening:�"I can't answer your question directly without giving away information I don't want to give, so forgive me for not being direct.�"Sometimes you can tell from the combat report the origin of aircraft squadrons - whether they are from carriers or whatever.� Sometimes you can't.� Or maybe I just don't read them closely enough.�"Of course, the fact that there are Wildcats and SBDs might lead you to conclude their are carrier squadrons present, but Marine units also fly them.�"I won't say whether I have carrier squadrons in Sumatra, but I will say that I wouldn't hesitate to use them there if I thought they were needed."

There is someone on this forum that has a moniker "He who is complaining the loudest is getting his arse kicked the most .." are something like that ..

You have defeated your opponet and now it is only a matter of time ... sadly I suspect this game will end although with delays in repsonses ..as the IJ player will get more frustated .... one thing about games ..when it is no longer fulfilling we can just quit ...

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/10/2011 6:54:53 PM

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I didn't mean to give the impression that Steve was complaining or irate. I do think he was quietly harboring some reservations about mass use of carrier aircraft from airfields, but even that impression could be wrong on my part. But he raised a simple question quietly and respectfully, so I thought he deserved a detailed response. He is taking a beating in the game (mostly), but he's not complaining in the least. He's a trooper and a quality opponent.

Pacific: Patrols pick up both enemy carrier TFs again - one near Wallis Island (Hiyo/Junyo) and a second, bigger TF, about five hexes east of Tarawa. I think Steve is going to invade Wallis Island or Savaii. I'm anxious to see (if possible) what capital ships he still has in the area. IE, is he stubbornly keeping Yamato, etc. in the Pacific, or has he recalled them to the DEI? Meanwhile, Wasp is well to the NE of Christmas Island now, and probably out of any conceivable danger but subs. The North Carolina/Warspite TF should reach Tahiti in two or three days.

DEI: Quiet this turn. CA Salt Lake City TF is at Oosthaven. She'll be joined by CA Chester TF tomorrow, at which time I'll figure out which ships to use in which TF. The enemy took a vacated Sibolga, three days after my troops departed, and just realized those troops are moving to reinforce Padang. So the enemy is bombing them to slow them down, but they have a two-hex headstart.

Georgia vs. South Carolina: I have a very, very, very bad feeling about this game today. I think Georgia is going to get its fanny whipped at home. I think Georgia's capable, well-thought-of coach is about to find his job in very serious jeapardy. In fact, I think today will be the day that tips his job security from "safe but eroding" to "he's gone unless something very good happens very soon."

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/10/2011 9:20:35 PM

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Dan, apologies as we have to part ways on Georgia vs the Gamecocks. The Longhorns are my #1 team always, but SC is a close second. We've had the family farm there since 1715, so we're a bit rabid about all things Palmetto State.

I think your coach gets fired this year even if they beat SC. The schedule is brutal and the team just doesn't seem right. They look like my horns last year, which is not a good way to look.

PS - After watching the start of the game you may get a win today. It looks like the "other" Steve Garcia showed up today. Way off target so far.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/10/2011 11:32:23 PM

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Is there a good site discussing American football tactics/plays?

I've never played, never even seen a full game - watched bits and pieces of Superbowls in the past - but got Madden NFL 12 last night. It is interesting but even on PRO level it seems a bit simple... Vary the long and short passes, time it so the receiver (hopefully that's what they are called, there's all sorts of tight ends and all sorts of other names I don't know - I know quarterback and receiver ) turns in time to receive the ball to increase chances of catching and use overlapping runs to dislocate the defence whilst varying short and deep runs and passes. Throw in the occasional rush and its all done.

I can't help but think it must be a lot more complex than this though, really, and I'd be interested for a good site on plays.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/11/2011 12:09:34 AM

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CR said you told him that mixing nationalities in TF's isn't good, which makes intuitive sense. can (or will) you quantify this at all? Leaving aside ranging, is it better to have two TF's of 4 ships with no nationality mix or one of 8?
I would guess that matching the ranges is more important than matching the nationalities, but I wouldn't be surprised if you actually knew whether or not this was the case.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/11/2011 4:12:14 AM

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Is there a good site discussing American football tactics/plays?

I've never played, never even seen a full game - watched bits and pieces of Superbowls in the past - but got Madden NFL 12 last night. It is interesting but even on PRO level it seems a bit simple... Vary the long and short passes, time it so the receiver (hopefully that's what they are called, there's all sorts of tight ends and all sorts of other names I don't know - I know quarterback and receiver ) turns in time to receive the ball to increase chances of catching and use overlapping runs to dislocate the defence whilst varying short and deep runs and passes. Throw in the occasional rush and its all done.

I can't help but think it must be a lot more complex than this though, really, and I'd be interested for a good site on plays.

Hi Nemo,

If the NFL isn't your cup of tea, you could always focus on the Rugby World Cup. Rugby on almost every day...life is good!

Actually, to get back to your football question, I would think the Madden forums on whichever platform you are playing the game on would have tons of info you'd be looking for. I actually don't like controlling the players myself, I prefer coach mode. It's quite a challenge to simply call the plays, maybe throw in an audible and just let the computer do the leg work. The only problem is tweaking the settings enough to get realistic outcomes.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/11/2011 4:16:25 AM

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Nemo, if you want to talk football, then come on down to Texas! It's our religion.

The computer games, even the good ones like Madden, oversimplify the reality a bit. American football is fascinating in that it simulates war pretty well. That said, I like about any game. I am even in the minority of Americans that love soccer.

PS Dan, How 'bout them Gamecocks! It was a wild game, but virtue triumphed.

PPS Please don't green dot me for that.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/11/2011 1:38:23 PM

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Well it isn't that I don't like US football ( its just rugby with a lot more protection, a lot less action, forward passes and a lot fewer spinal cord injuries

). As time has gone on it has gotten a bit more interesting as more capable teams are being fired at my team ( the Steelers, Not sure which city they are from, I seem to remember it as Pittsburgh but I'm not sure ).

Personally even if I didn't like US football the game would still be diverting on the basis that it presents a given situation, given resources and a need to solve the situation given the resources - the challenge in analysing and coming up with the solution is what interests me. It can be more fun the less you know ( just like the WiTP was back in the day. When I first played it I had no idea about the IJN or USN at all. The Pacific war wasn't really on my radar in the way that the Eastern Front or the Air war over Germany was ).

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/11/2011 3:06:59 PM

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I guess its OK for me to give disinformation to Criptop now as I got my Master's degree at Clemson and lived for about 5 years in Greenwood (half way between Colombia and Clemson).

Add in that I HATE, just HATE the Dallas Cowgirls.

I'll be a Jets fan today!

Nemo - I'll help you with American football if you can explain Cricket to me.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/11/2011 3:38:07 PM

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Cricket's for the Brits. Once upon a time what developed into the Irish Army's Rules of Engagement pretty much boiled down to: "If he plays cricket, shoot him." Interestingly enough, there were no friendly fire incidents with under those ROEs

--- I refer her to the 1900s to 1920s and not afterward.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/11/2011 5:16:26 PM

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Michael, we are truly forging our AE friendship across the lines of battle. A Giants fan AND a Clemson fan! Good lord, man.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/11/2011 7:09:03 PM

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Well it isn't that I don't like US football ( its just rugby with a lot more protection, a lot less action, forward passes and a lot fewer spinal cord injuries ). As time has gone on it has gotten a bit more interesting as more capable teams are being fired at my team ( the Steelers, Not sure which city they are from, I seem to remember it as Pittsburgh but I'm not sure ).

Personally even if I didn't like US football the game would still be diverting on the basis that it presents a given situation, given resources and a need to solve the situation given the resources - the challenge in analysing and coming up with the solution is what interests me. It can be more fun the less you know ( just like the WiTP was back in the day. When I first played it I had no idea about the IJN or USN at all. The Pacific war wasn't really on my radar in the way that the Eastern Front or the Air war over Germany was ).

Hmmmm actually US football stops for 30 - 45 seconds per play and 3 - 5 minutes for commercials ... I am watching Ireland right now drive on USA .. and no stopping.. unless a penality kick or sideout ..much more interesting to me ... A lot more action in Rugby and in a way strategy ..Besdes teh Ref does not stop the action every play for a review and when action stops it is a matter of seconds before it starts agian .."Knock-on .. Reset ..."

OK BACK TO CR kicking butt ..

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/11/2011 11:47:29 PM

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CenPac: Japanese carrier aircraft pick off an xAK at Makin. I still don't know which carriers are out there, but I know there is more than one.

SoPac: Hiyo/Junyo are NW of Pago Pago, covering what I'm nearly positive is an invasion for bound for Savaii. Warspite, North Carolina, and two CAs are to the east, but I deem it more important to get them to the DEI than to try to monkey with a carrier-covered invasion.

DEI: Quiet. Salt Lake City and Chester have joined forces at Oosthaven.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/12/2011 9:51:25 AM

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Well it isn't that I don't like US football ( its just rugby with a lot more protection, a lot less action, forward passes and a lot fewer spinal cord injuries ). As time has gone on it has gotten a bit more interesting as more capable teams are being fired at my team ( the Steelers, Not sure which city they are from, I seem to remember it as Pittsburgh but I'm not sure ).

Personally even if I didn't like US football the game would still be diverting on the basis that it presents a given situation, given resources and a need to solve the situation given the resources - the challenge in analysing and coming up with the solution is what interests me. It can be more fun the less you know ( just like the WiTP was back in the day. When I first played it I had no idea about the IJN or USN at all. The Pacific war wasn't really on my radar in the way that the Eastern Front or the Air war over Germany was ).

Hmmmm actually US football stops for 30 - 45 seconds per play and 3 - 5 minutes for commercials ... I am watching Ireland right now drive on USA .. and no stopping.. unless a penality kick or sideout ..much more interesting to me ... A lot more action in Rugby and in a way strategy ..Besdes teh Ref does not stop the action every play for a review and when action stops it is a matter of seconds before it starts agian .."Knock-on .. Reset ..."

With the amount of plays, defensive and offensive sets, and specialized players, American football is incredibly complex. Not boring at all, even if it stops and starts. Continuous motion isn't that interesting in itself. Much more tension can be built through stopping and starting, having limited time to complete certain aspects of the game, and getting decisions right through official review. Rugby and especially soccer could use some lessons in the review department.

How many time have you seen the replay in either sport and realized someone was taking a cheap shot at another player, or the ball didn't cross the line, or someone was being an idiot and diving all over the place for no good reason? I live in England, and do like both Rugby and Soccer/Football, but the tension and complexity of NFL and US College football is unmatched until the world cup or Champions league finals are on. The Rugby World Cup will be exciting for sure. But I still prefer the NFL playoffs and College bowl games EVERY YEAR.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/12/2011 10:39:07 AM

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What the heck is he doing, continuing to reinforce or expand in SoPAC right now? His SLOCs are a lot longer than your's & he should know that he's going to be on the wrong side of the reinforcement curve (if he isn't already) very soon. He doesn't have any major ports nearby & should you spring another ambush on him, his ships will have quite a ways to go for repairs.

At least a move against your recent acquisitions in CentPac make a little more sense - but if he's committing major carrier assets there (and with his current OOB, compared to losses, it has to be perhaps a CarDiv from the KB) again, he's concentrating on a side-show while letting you get away with more preparations for the main course.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/12/2011 2:58:27 PM

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paullus99: I frankly don't know. I've really begun to wonder over the past weeks with the deployment of so much "weight" to the Pacific.

SoPac: The Japanese are invading Savaii Island with BBs Hyuga, Yamashiro, and Yamato, CAs Tone and Chickuma, and CVE Hosho confirmed present. This was the information I was looking for - it tells me that Steve hasn't stripped the Pacific to deal with the DEI (at least not yet). Warspite and North Carolina, plus two CAs, should make it to the DEI before any of these ships do, as they should be tied up for a few more days. Pago Pago B-17s took a shot at Hosho, but missed.

DEI: A Marine regiment arrives at Cocos Island tomorrow, which will bring the AV to 300. The Allies paid 260 political points to purchase an Indian armored brigade at Cochin. This unit will report to Benkolen (or possibly Padang). No sign of imminent enemy moves on Sumatra.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/12/2011 3:41:43 PM

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Nemo- The more I think of it, the best source would be "In Living Color's" Men of Football skit...everything you need to know right there.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/13/2011 3:57:12 AM

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Interesting thread on SCTV. However, I almost never use BBs in SCTV unless for some reason I am looking for a daylight battle. They are just too vulnerable and really not very reliable in a night action. I strictly use CAs and CLs mixed with DDS. I rarely use a TF over ten ships typically averageing about eight ships. I look to get multilple TFs into a fight rather than one big. Old BBs are for fire support and fast BBs are there to protect carriers.

In the dark days of 42 I used old BBs out of necessity but two long lance torpedoes into an old BB will put it in the yard for more than half a year. Why risk them. Many times depending on conditions they never shoot or ever land a shot, and they just seem to eat torpedoes.

For some reason my old American CLs use in DD TFs as DD leaders have been amazingly deadly. I don't know why-perhaps just luck.

I see no real benefit to using old BBs in night surface actions. They are more of a liabiltiy than a benefit.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/13/2011 7:46:21 PM

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I finally caught up with the entire AAR. I started reading after the game with Q-Ball officially came to an end and I was looking for another way to enjoy my morning coffee. It's been a great read, very much appreciated. (yeah, taken me a long time to catch up! ;)

A several occasions you have talked about having units shipped to Capetown that you are thinking of spending PPs to free up. In particular the 27th Div. That is a west coast restricted unit, so I understand having to pay PP to use it, but how are you even getting it on transports as far as capetown before buying them out?

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/13/2011 7:59:37 PM

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Lomri: You can transfer units from East Coast, Balboa, etc. to Capetown without the use of ships. You just click on the "transfer" button on the upper right side of the unit and send it to Capetown. This saves time and precious ship space. Since they reach Capetown without the need for loading, you don't have to use PP to buy them. To move them forward from Capetown, of course, you'll have to pay the PP and load them aboard ships the old fashioned way.

CenPac: Quiet here. The IJN carrier force, which is quite large (but I'm not sure yet that it's the full KB) is back near Majuro.

SoPac: Steve withdrew Hosho from Savaii vicinity, so there was no LRCAP. As a result, the SBD-1 and SBD-2 squadrons at Pago Pago tore into the transports, sinking or badly damaging four xAK and two or three xAKL. The Japanese landed enough to take the weakly defended island. The airfield is level one, so the Allies plan to use 4EB to suppress base building. The Mini-KB and combat capital ships have pulled back towards Fiji. North Carolina and Warspite TFs have refueled at Tahiti and will move out for the DEI via New Zealand and southern Oz.

DEI: Transports carrying a Marine regiment have arrived at Cocos Islands. Lots of supply ships unloading at Oosthaven.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/13/2011 8:19:17 PM

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P.S. Lomri. I learned about that feature just like you did - from another player. I was well into my game with Q-Ball, shipping units from America to Capetown aboard trasnports, when some helpful somebody posted the shortcut feature in my AAR. So, I can't take any credit for knowing about this. Hang around long enough, and you pick up all kinds of good pointers!

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/15/2011 5:55:51 PM

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Thanks CR. I actually had been shipping b-17s to capetown that way, but didn't try LCUs. What is more lame of me is I feel like their was a similar feature allowing moving LCUs to Karachi in WitP, so why didn't I investigate it in AE! Well, glad I'm in good company not finding it until late in the day :)

(Although, to my discredit, I read your entire AAR vs q-ball and didn't pick up on the tip).

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/16/2011 4:07:35 PM

Canoerebel

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7/13/42 and 7/14/42

NoPac: No activity up here beyond the daily Japanese bombing raids on Onnekotan and Paramushiro. Both bases have essentially been out of supply for more than two months, though sub transports and patrol transports are getting enough supply to Para to keep the AA guns and one patrol squadron running. CV Wasp is well to NE of Pearl Harbor now. A variety of supply ships are on the way to pre-position points. Tomorrow, I may spend the PP to buy a RCT at Seattle. In about two weeks or so, the Allies will be in a position to proceed with the operation to bring in some supply and reinforcements to Paramushiro. CV Wasp will contribute its fighters, though standing far enough away to (hopefully) be out of danger. I had planned to use the three P-38 squadrons that recently arrived at West Coast, but all are permanently restricted.

CenPac: Still a variety of big Japanese naval vessels reported operating between Kwajalein and Miri. Clearly, the Allied invasions here had the unexpected dividend of drawing a major commitment of Japanese forces that should be employed elsewhere. The Allies have withdrawn most naval assets now. Defense is left to a mixture of fighters and the very strongly held base at Tarawa (430 AV and three forts at this point). I don't think there's any way Japan can retake Tarawa or Baker Island. Ocean will be tough, but not impossible, for Japan to retake (130 AV there).

SoPac: Japan will build up Savaii Island and is reconning another to the south. If successful, there could come a day when the Allied defenders at Pago Pago could be isolated and low on supply. And then, after perhaps six or nine months of fighting, Japan could take and island that really isn't important at all. But it will cost them. :)

DEI: Quiet here at the moment. Salt Lake City and Chester continue to guard the port of Oosthaven, where several big supply TFs have just finished unloading. Oosthaven forts will go to level seven in four or five days. Cocos Island airfield just went to level three and the Marine regiment finished unloading, bringing the AV to 300. Japan will need at least two divisions and the KB in order to take Cocos at this point. I don't see any way Japan takes Cocos unless and until Sumatra is vanquished. And with Cocos in Allied hands, Japan can't impose a tight blockade.

Burma: Quiet here. Japan hasn't advanced towards Mandalay.

China: Quiet here too. The Allies have just positioned a big group of RAF fighters (plus one squadron of P-38s) at Liuchow and Kweilin, hoping to savage the large and unescorted raids that have been using these two bases as training runs for weeks now.

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RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 9/16/2011 5:47:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: paullus99

What the heck is he doing, continuing to reinforce or expand in SoPAC right now? His SLOCs are a lot longer than your's & he should know that he's going to be on the wrong side of the reinforcement curve (if he isn't already) very soon. He doesn't have any major ports nearby & should you spring another ambush on him, his ships will have quite a ways to go for repairs.

At least a move against your recent acquisitions in CentPac make a little more sense - but if he's committing major carrier assets there (and with his current OOB, compared to losses, it has to be perhaps a CarDiv from the KB) again, he's concentrating on a side-show while letting you get away with more preparations for the main course.

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