Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

I feel your pain...Japanese DDs in 42 can be a terrible opponent even for CAs or BBs...i lost several BBs in these kind of fights...

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

This situation illustrates the amazing complexity of this game. Paramushiro is important, so I want to stay and fight. I just decisively lost a big naval engagement. In trying to decide whether to stay and fight, I have to weigh the possibility of further "unlikely" battle results causing more damage. I want to bring in additional combat ships, but I'm also concerned about the fact that my fighters suffered high losses the day before. There is a chance that enemy LBA could break through and wreak devastation of its own. There's also the chance the enemy will commit more surface combatants, though I think it will take some days to get the heavy-lifters up here (I think this move caught Steve off guard with his capital ships far away). And this is just one relatively "simple" situation in a vast ocean of situations of equal or greater complexity. What a game this AE is!

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6.3.3.3 TASK FORCE UNLOADING

TF Unloading is governed by the TF type and is put into two categories: Normal Unloading and
Assault Unloading.

6.3.3.3.1 NORMAL UNLOADING

Normal Unloading is governed by exactly the same rates, as a function of Port Size, as Loading;
both for individual Ship Rates and for the Daily Port Rate. A TF will Unload using the same rate
calculations used for loading, modified by the presence of Naval Support and Port Damage,
as described above.

1. Port Load Adjustments: Naval Support and Damage both
affect a Port’s native ability to unload a Task Force.

2. Port Rate Limitations: The Daily Port Rate applies to Loading and
Unloading together. If a Loading TF uses 70% of the Daily Port
Rate, then only 30% remains available for Unloading.

3. Port Dock Limitations: The Largest Ship in Port and the Total Tonnage
Docked limitations apply to Loading and Unloading together.

4. TF Docked/unloaded. All TFs can unload when not docked,
amphibious TF types at a more advantageous rate.

6.3.3.3.2 AMPHIBIOUS UNLOADING

The Amphibious Unload Rate bonus applies only to ships in an Amphibious TF. Amphibious
Unload rates are determined by ship type (i.e., beaching craft, amphibious ship types,
or ordinary transport/cargo ship types). There are no Port-derived cargo handling limits.
Amphibious Unload only applies to Troops and Cargo (equipment and supply). Amphibious
Unload does not apply to Fuel, Oil or Resources. Note that there is also an “initial operations”
bonus for the Japanese during the first 4 months of the war.

Amphibious Unload may be used in two situations: an assault unloads over the beach, and
amphibious unload in a small friendly port. Amphibious Unload Rate bonuses differ for the two
situations.


6.3.3.3.2.1 OVER THE BEACH

This is for assault unloading over the beach.

» Beaching Craft. Beaching craft unload completely in one turn.

» Attack Amphibious Ships. (APA/AKA plus LSD, LSV and British equivalents)
in Amphibious TFs, unload at a Rate of 3000 points per ship, per turn.
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» Regular Transport Ships. (Commissioned Naval AP/AK) in Amphibious
TFs, unload at a Rate of 600 points per ship per turn.

» Merchant Ships. (xAP/xAK) in Amphibious TFs, unload
at a Rate of 250 points per ship per turn.

» Special Japanese early war bonus of 1200 for all AP/AK and xAP/xAK types.

6.3.3.3.2.2 FRIENDLY PORT

For Amphibious docked at and unloading in a friendly port of Size 4 or less, the unload rate is
slightly different for Troops and Cargo.

» Beaching Craft. Troops unload at a Rate of 1000 points per ship per
turn. Cargo unloads at a Rate of 750 points per ship per turn.

» Attack Amphibs. Troops unload at a Rate of 1000 points per ship per
turn. Cargo unloads at a Rate of 750 points per ship per turn.

» Regular Amphibs. Troops unload at a Rate of 300 points per ship per
turn. Cargo unloads at a Rate of 300 points per ship per turn.

» Merchant Ships. Troops unload at a Rate of 125 points per ship per
turn. Cargo unloads at a Rate of 125 points per ship per turn.

Amphibious TFs not docked at a friendly port unload at a different rate, depending on port
size, amount of free dock space, and the types of ships in the TFs. Amphibious ship types, with
attached landing craft, will unload faster than non-amphibious ships.

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Okay, I have put the defeat in the rear window. I'm am smiling (except when I think about losing a BB, two DD, and ten xAK...) I can move on. I have configured a nice TF with CA Quincy, CL Phoenix, nine DDs, and a DMS to take its place.

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

2) Winter arrives in less than three months. If Japan doesn't invade before November 1, the Allies will have four months to reinforce and build without threat of enemy counterattack.

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

An invasion against a prepared position in the Arctic during winter conditions is literally impossible. No matter how strong your troops, no matter how much supply you bring, no matter how good you pre-invasion bombardment, no matter the quality of your ships, your troops will suffer something like 90% to 95% disruption and be wiped out the next turn.

With 500 AV at Para, the Allies can withstand any possible counterinvasion that Japan could bring during winter.

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

I haven't tried or seen it yet, so I guess I would've gotten slaughtered that first time!

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ORIGINAL: Andav

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

I haven't tried or seen it yet, so I guess I would've gotten slaughtered that first time!

If we had only gone after Nome! (This is a running joke in our 2x2 PBEM. Sorry but I just could not resist.)

Walter

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Cribtop, good comments.

Because of the peculiar circumstances in this game, I do think it's worthwhile to expend consdierable effort to save Paramushiro. Here's my thinking:

1) Para's value to the Allies and threat to Japan is obvious to experienced players, so I'll take that as a given and won't discuss it. Just accept that it is an enormously important base.

2) Winter arrives in less than three months. If Japan doesn't invade before November 1, the Allies will have four months to reinforce and build without threat of enemy counterattack. By March 1, 1943, Para would be a big, strong base from which Allied 4EB can strike IJ Home Island industry on Sikhalin Island and Hokkaido.

3) Japanese capital ships have become rare commodities. Steve currently has most or all of his BBs and CAs employed in the Pacific and DEI (except, I think, for those in Japanese shipyards for repairs). Lack of capital ships means Steve can no longer effectively bombard Para. This will make it harder for him to suppress supplies and base building efforts.

4) If he does commit capital ships up here, it's as good a place as any to attrit them even further.

5) Para has a level three airfield. Allied LBA is a threat and a problem for Steve. I think he will continue to commit his airforce in offensive missions. The optimal use of the Allied airforce is in defensive missions, so I like this arrangement.

6) Any Japanese assets diverted to NoPac stretches Steve that much further. Stretching an already stretched and depleted enemy is a good thing.