RE: Das darf nicht var sein!

Matrix Games Forums

Forums Register Login Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ

My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums Log Out

RE: Das darf nicht var sein!

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> After Action Reports >> RE: Das darf nicht var sein!

Page: << < prev 60 61 [62] 63 64 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/17/2011 8:22:15 PM

crsutton

Posts: 9590
Joined: 12/6/2002
From: Maryland
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

I like Cribtop's idea. Go for Singers!

I think that without total sea and air control, that major land campaigns are a big mistake at this point in the game. Especially w/ scen #2. If the Japanese player can reinforce then it is almost guaranteed that you will get bogged down. Better to take islands that are hard for him to take back and build up airbases.

_____________________________

I am the Holy Roman Emperor and am above grammar.

Sigismund of Luxemburg

(in reply to John 3rd)

Post #: 1831

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/17/2011 10:05:37 PM

JeffroK

Posts: 6391
Joined: 1/26/2005
Status: offline

Invade Hawaii, In August 42!

_____________________________

Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1832

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/18/2011 3:08:26 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

Right now, I have 335 AV at Pearl Harbor behind seven forts. I have 88 fighters and 56 bombers at the base. I don't have any combat ships worth mentioning. Not exactly a bastion bristling with firepower, is it?

(in reply to JeffroK)

Post #: 1833

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/18/2011 3:22:08 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

8/9/92

Decisions, decisions!

DEI: Japanese subs are finding good pickings at Oosthaven, although the port is mined and patrolled by ASW ships and aircraft. Two APs took torps today, and several other good transports and a tanker got clobbered yesterday. Also, the subs got a look at my roster of APDs, which continue to do valuable service on runs to the islands to the north. I may need to stand down my APDs for a few days, or send them on a run or two to Padang, lest Steve catch wind of them and send combat ships to intercept. Most of a USA RCT and an Indian engineer unit are ashore at Billiton, where forts are at level one. 22nd East African unit just arrived at Oosthaven and will go to Toabali when the APDs are available again.

Padang: A very sharp repulse for the Allied garrison at Padang as it again attacks the two tank regiments. This time, the Japanese units did show a "negative" for supply, which is very encouraging. Patrols report the two divisions (21 and 38) on the road between Sibolga and Padang. The first is probably only a week or ten days out. However, recon reports just one small enemy unit at Sibolga and no other units between the two bases. This means Steve has nothing big coming in the near term, which is a relief. The Allies already have reinforcements at sea (6th UK Brigade) for Padang. This TF will arrive in a week or less.

CenPac and SoPac: More detection levels reported over the TFs at Ndeni. One is at 1/1 and another at 4/4. The jig is up! Surprise is lost now. But the Allies do have 186 AV ashore with a Sea Bee unit and part of an EAB. A big part of that transport TF is just one hex out, but I think I'm going to have to flee the scene. Patrols didn't catch wind of the KB up at Kwajalein, nor did they report Hiyo/Junyo around Fiji. There is a pretty fair chance Steve is responding to the situation at Ndeni. It's much sooner than I had hoped, but if he's alarmed then that's good. I will cling to the hope that the Allies can still go into Vanua Lava and Luganville, though those hopes might be fast fading. If those missions are scrubbed, I have two large TFs loaded with some good infantry. I might use one to reinforce Makin Island and the other possibly to reinforce Pago Pago, though I need supply and reinforced CAP there more than anything.

NoPac: Quiet here as the Allies work to assemble the next "insertion of supply and troops" TFs north of Attu Island. It will be five or six days before they're ready to make the run into Para.

Burma: The IJ army at Magwe still hasn't attacked. Tomorrow, the Allied army receives 200 AV reinforcements, bringing to total AV to about 700. Allied 2EB are doing good work, in part because Japan's LRCAP is weak. The only base close by is Toungoo and it is level one. The Allies, on the other hand, have plenty of airfields nearby with a decent number of RAF fighter squadrons. I feel sure Steve is bringing in heavy ground reinforcements, so the situation will remain tense and fluid well into the future. But the Allies would like Burma to serve as a sponge, soaking up infantry that might otherwise be deployed on Sumatra.

< Message edited by Canoerebel -- 10/18/2011 3:26:09 PM >

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1834

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/18/2011 10:01:49 PM

zuluhour

Posts: 5244
Joined: 1/20/2011
From: Maryland
Status: offline

possible for pic of the Sumatra-Java area?

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1835

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/18/2011 11:53:38 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

Today was 8/9/42.� I posted a map of the eastern Sumatra region for the 8/1/42 turn (see post 1757 on pg. 59).� That'll orient you to the Allied position.� Since that post, the Allies have landed 75 AV and part of an engineer unit at Billiton Island, and two enemy tank regiments have arrived at Padang.� Otherwise, things are essentially identical.

On a separate note, Japan not only has low detection levels on two TFs at Ndeni, but also 2/2 detection on the base itself.� Unless Steve is really asleep, this has his full attention.� In fact, he may be just a mite panicked (I can hope, can't I?).� To further raise his alarm level, I went ahead and transferred a PBY squadron to Ndeni.� All of the very valuable AP and AK will depart the port tonight and head east.� They are a bit exposed, but I'll try to extract them.� The other two big amphibious TFs, also comprised of APs, will lag far back in the Canton/Christmas Island vicinities until I evaluate the threat.

Too much fun!

< Message edited by Canoerebel -- 10/18/2011 11:55:36 PM >

(in reply to zuluhour)

Post #: 1836

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/19/2011 12:35:35 AM

ny59giants

Posts: 9869
Joined: 1/10/2005
Status: offline

You should be getting 8 to 10 SC somewhere in the USA in mid-August. Attach them to a TF that is headed for Australia. Eventually, get them up to Sumatra to be your ASW ships. You get so many that you can afford to lose some, but their ASW weapons should do some damage on his subs in a base hex. Not a quick fix, but use them wisely. I'm a few weeks behind you now, so I'm deciding where to place them. A 18 plane Kingfisher set on ASW at 1000' with range of 2 and 2x ASW TF with 4 SC each should be enough.

_____________________________

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1837

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/19/2011 3:48:49 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

8/10/42

NoPac: The Allied fighters at Para are worn out. They are not going to win the air battle in the short term, but the fact that Japan is employing large numbers of fighters here instead of elsewhere is a help. I'm trying to figure out whether to make another run short term, or to instead wait for the situation to change or for winter conditions. If I choose a "wait and see" stance, Wasp and Maryland will remain on station just in case Japan tries an invasion.

CenPac and SoPac: The KB wasn't sighted around Kwajalein and the Hiyo/Junyo group seems absent from the Fiji theater. Meanwhile, Ndeni's new PBY patrols "lit up" two IJ merchantment convoys - one near Kirakira and the other at Tulagi. That'll prod Steve a bit. I feel sure he already has the KB headed this way to "take control of the situation." The most important Allied transports have cleared the immediate area. A few x-merchant ships remain behind to deliver supply and to offer Steve obvious targets (thus hopefully distracting him from the APs fleeing off to the east). The Allies have 190 AV ashore, so it will take a concerted action by Japan to take the base. Any such action should detract from Japanese activity elsewhere, hopefully offering some breathing space to get some supply to Pago Pago and reinforcements to Makin.

DEI: It doesn't look like Japan has more than the two divisions on the road between Sibolga and Padang. That won't be enough to take the base. By the time they arrive, the Allies should have another 200 AV present. If this evaluation based upon repeated recon is accurate, there's no major threat to the Allied position in eastern Sumatra from this direction for at least a month.

Philippines: The Japanese army at Malaybalay attacked and were handily repulsed. Steve will have to bring more.

Burma: Steve waited one day too many to attack at Magwe. 200 Allied AV arrived today in combat mode, bumpbing AV up to about 700. Japan got 1:2 odds with its 1200 AV army (both sides were adjusted radically downwards, so the 200 extra AV made a big difference). This situation is tense, but I do think Japan will have to bring in reinforcements to have a fair chance of winning.

< Message edited by Canoerebel -- 10/19/2011 3:57:26 PM >

(in reply to ny59giants)

Post #: 1838

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/19/2011 3:49:51 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants
You should be getting 8 to 10 SC somewhere in the USA in mid-August. Attach them to a TF that is headed for Australia. Eventually, get them up to Sumatra to be your ASW ships. You get so many that you can afford to lose some, but their ASW weapons should do some damage on his subs in a base hex. Not a quick fix, but use them wisely. I'm a few weeks behind you now, so I'm deciding where to place them. A 18 plane Kingfisher set on ASW at 1000' with range of 2 and 2x ASW TF with 4 SC each should be enough.

Good ideas, Michael. I have plenty of ASW aircraft patrols, but not the real good stuff. I also have some SCs on the way to theater via Capetown, but I'll keep in mind what you said when that big group arrives later this month.

(in reply to ny59giants)

Post #: 1839

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/19/2011 5:00:36 PM

Miller

Posts: 2226
Joined: 9/14/2004
From: Ashington, England.
Status: offline

What is the situation on the ground at Pago Pago? Is he making any progress in this white elephant undertaking???

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1840

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/19/2011 5:29:59 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

He's really in a quagmire at Pago Pago. He has 800 AV, but the Allies have 550 AV behind four forts. The only chance he has is to choke off supply, and he may be able to do so since he's finally taken and is building nearby Savaii Island. Pago Pago isn't that important to me, except that it keeps drawing him like moth to a flame. He's been there for four months now, committing as many as four cruisers, three battleships, and two carriers. It seems crazy to me.

(in reply to Miller)

Post #: 1841

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/19/2011 5:33:30 PM

GreyJoy

Posts: 6750
Joined: 3/18/2011
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

He's really in a quagmire at Pago Pago. He has 800 AV, but the Allies have 550 AV behind four forts. The only chance he has is to choke off supply, and he may be able to do so since he's finally taken and is building nearby Savaii Island. Pago Pago isn't that important to me, except that it keeps drawing him like moth to a flame. He's been there for four months now, committing as many as four cruisers, three battleships, and two carriers. It seems crazy to me.

...very strange that with all the LCUs Japan has in scen 2 after 6 months he can only bring 800 AVs to SOPAC...

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1842

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/19/2011 5:35:12 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

He could bring more, but that's at the far end of his LOC and Allied shore guns keep ripping apart his merchantmen. So he is reluctant to bring more. Part of that is Allied operations in Burma and China that required the attention of major IJ reinforcements. And I have to assume he has a massive army waiting to strike Sumatra. (Doesn't he?)

(in reply to GreyJoy)

Post #: 1843

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/19/2011 5:46:33 PM

witpqs

Posts: 26087
Joined: 10/4/2004
From: Argleton
Status: offline

BTW CR, I did some testing of Country Codes and emergency reinforcement triggers (there's a thread in scenario design). As I started with a Dec 7th campaign, the Kuriles tests were in winter. Unprepared troops in winter using APs (no xAPs), the disablements upon landing were "OMG" bad. The first test at Paramushiro Jima were no AV (as in zero) remaining active. A later test had about 7 AV remaining of about 135. Other Kuriles/Shakalins bases only disabled about 50%, so I guess the difference was the PJ fortress.

Thought you would like to hear.

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1844

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/19/2011 5:48:23 PM

desicat

Posts: 542
Joined: 5/25/2008
Status: offline

quote:

NoPac: The Allied fighters at Para are worn out. They are not going to win the air battle in the short term, but the fact that Japan is employing large numbers of fighters here instead of elsewhere is a help. I'm trying to figure out whether to make another run short term, or to instead wait for the situation to change or for winter conditions. If I choose a "wait and see" stance, Wasp and Maryland will remain on station just in case Japan tries an invasion.

IMHO the action in the DEI, Sumatra, China, and just about anywhere else is a sideshow compared to Para. Victories in any or all those other places will still leave the Allies several campaigns and 1000's of miles from the Japanese Home Islands. Winter is your best friend here in late 42 early 43, the potential gain of deploying any extra shipping, fighters, or PP's here will pay larger and quicker dividends than anywhere else in early 43.

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1845

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/19/2011 6:17:20 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

If Japan doesn't invade Para before winter, the Allies will really take advantage of that during the winter. Para is indeed critical terrain.

But the war will be won in the DEI. Having a six or eight large airfields in supporting distance of each other, and just a short distance from key IJ bases (Singers, Balikpan, Batavia) is a knife in Japan's guts.

(in reply to desicat)

Post #: 1846

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/19/2011 9:40:53 PM

zuluhour

Posts: 5244
Joined: 1/20/2011
From: Maryland
Status: offline

I hope the quartermaster is sober or those poor tars might get ice cream instead of woolies!

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1847

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/19/2011 10:08:14 PM

ny59giants

Posts: 9869
Joined: 1/10/2005
Status: offline

Burma - I would have one of your Command HQs at Chittagong prepping for Magwe. If you decide to launch a counter attack the extra 90% bonus in Assault Value will come in handy.

_____________________________

(in reply to zuluhour)

Post #: 1848

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/20/2011 4:44:10 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

8/11/42

NYGiants: Thanks for yet another nugget of wisdom. It would be accurate to call NYGiants "Nugget Man." Seriously, he's always tossing in very helpful bits of advice.

CenPac: Showing that my hunches are not always on the mark, the KB pops up midway between Tarawa and Baker Island. Surprisingly, the Allies didn't have any shipping within range, although that can change very quickly if the KB chooses one of several paths that will take it to victims. I think the KB is acting as the anvil while a surface combat TF strikes Allied shipping at Tarawa, which includes a big transport TF (now unloaded and featuring only a few xAP and several xAK). However, if the KB jukes south, I have some scattered transports of low value and some of high value including AP. Fortunately, my biggest concetrations of good shipping, the Vanua Lava transports and the Luganville transports, are well to the east and probably not at risk. SigInt reports a Naval Guard prepping for Ocean Island, which has 190 AV behind four forts. It won't be easy for Japan to reclaim this base, but the complete picture painted here is of a Japan intent on taking control in the Gilberts even though that will take alot of time and effort. The Allied troops in the DEI are very happy about this assessment.

Ndeni: To my surprise, no enemy probes yet at the new Allied base. I still expect something and soon, though there is a slight chance Steve hasn't caught wind of it yet. The Allies have 198 AV ashore, two forts, and both port and airfield 50% to level one.

SoPac: Still no sign of Hiyo/Junyo.

DEI: The Allies ignored daily raids over Padang for weeks, hoping the enemy might get complacent. For several reasons, I chose to insert 100 good fighters today. The results were highly satisfactory as the Allies down 125+ aircraft (mainly Netties and Oscars) while losing only 20. This should halt Japan's raids for a while. I'll withdraw my fighters for about a week, then re-insert them when the troop transports (6th UK Brigade) arrive. One important aspect of this air battle is that morale for each squadron skyrocketed and there was a very nice increase in experience and skill. Hornet and Lexington arrived at Colombo and are upgrading.

Burma: A dance continues as the IJ army besieges Magwe, but doesn't have enough to take the base, especially under daily bombings by Allied 2EB. The Allies deploy single small units to run down various roads to threaten the IJ position with isolation, but thus far Steve hasn't withdrawn.

China: In a about a week, the Allies should have a 3,000-AV army ready to hit a single IJ unit at Ichang.

(in reply to ny59giants)

Post #: 1849

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/20/2011 5:06:57 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

I forgot to mention that I-121 put three torps into BB Resolution at Oosthaven. The ship suffered moderately-heavy damage. She's disbanded for pierside repairs, and should be okay given the amount of Naval Support at this base. But Oosthaven is at the very front of the front lines, so this is not a particularly healthy place for a damaged capital ship to linger.

< Message edited by Canoerebel -- 10/20/2011 5:23:16 PM >

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1850

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/20/2011 5:50:39 PM

ny59giants

Posts: 9869
Joined: 1/10/2005
Status: offline

quote:

NYGiants: Thanks for yet another nugget of wisdom. It would be accurate to call NYGiants "Nugget Man." Seriously, he's always tossing in very helpful bits of advice.

Instead of being a character in the movie, "A Yankee in King Arthur's Court" I should be "A Yankee Transplant in Rebel Land."

I have a running joke in my office that I need someone to find a local place (NE Tenn) that can sell me some lox to go along with my bagels and cream cheese for breakfast. So far, no luck after about 6 years.

New Nugget
Cocos Island: This base can support 30k for stacking purposes and port can be built up to 3(0). Since you have a damaged BB in Southern Sumatra, what amount of Naval Support do you have here?? You could fill out and transport the Addu RN BF (125 Naval Support potentially), transfer the big Eastern HQ from Columbo (300 Naval Support), or an American USN BF (I have bought out all 3 BFs from Philippines, rebuilt, and each is 100 Naval Support) to increase your Naval Support here. A damaged ship may need to make port here before going to Colombo or Cape Town for full repair. If not now, then later in the game you may need this base. I don't think Chez will want to send CVs here after prior experiences.

_____________________________

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1851

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/20/2011 6:25:27 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

Nuggetman strikes again!

Great ideas, but factor these in, Michael, and see how they might influence the euqation.

First, Cocos Island is currently a level 1 port and level three airfield with a 300 AV garrison. It is safe from all but a concerted enemy invasion, and picket ships will warn of any carrier raid, as unlikely as one would be at this point.

Second, all my engineers are gainfully employed (I wish I had more) at the bases in Sumatra (with some now goig to the islands to the north) plus a few at the line of bases near Kolimo to Ledo. I doubt I'll get Cocos's port-level raised within a year even if I can find more engineers.

Third, is the Eastern Fleet HQ needed more at Colombo, or do you think it's better used at Cocos?

Finally, great idea bout the RN Port Service unit at Diego. I'll move it to Cocos.

(in reply to ny59giants)

Post #: 1852

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/20/2011 6:45:30 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

I have a Port Service detachment at Cocos with 30 Naval Support.

Also, it looks like the Addu Atoll unit with its Naval Support might work well at Cocos.

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1853

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/20/2011 7:16:07 PM

ny59giants

Posts: 9869
Joined: 1/10/2005
Status: offline

I would move the BF from Addu, not Diego Garcia to Cocos.

The big Eastern HQ is just an option. Don't know where it would do the most good since Colombo has a size 9 port and repair shipyard.

If you don't have enough engineers, I would strat move a couple of SeaBees to Eastern USA and then allow them to take 40 days to go to Cape Town. Spend the PP, if needed, and move them somewhere.

I was looking at Cocos as a potential emergency port for damaged ships. That's why I would increase Naval Support. Set the port to expand and when you move in the BF from Addu, make sure you have over 20k supply and set it to accept replacements. It will eventually fill out. Adding one or two SB/EAB should help finish the expansion.

EDIT - Do you have a Command HQ on Sumatra??

< Message edited by ny59giants -- 10/20/2011 10:58:28 PM >

_____________________________

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1854

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/21/2011 4:45:18 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

8/12/42

CenPac: One thing I knew - this turn was going to feature some unpleasantness for the Allies in this region. The KB is in the henhouse, with hens in almost every direction, plus an IJ combat TF was coming for the shipping at Tarawa. To my utter delight, there was little action and what there was favored the Allies. The Japanese 'hammer and anvil" tactic was employed, but failed:

Hammer and Anvil: A CL TF led by Tenyru came in to Tarawa where it tangled with a larger Allied combat TF flagged by CL Trenton. One IJ destroyer went under, the Allies didn't suffer any damage, and the Japanese force turned back, thus leaving the merchantmen unmolested. Thus, there were no damaged or fleeing ships to be smashed against the KB anvil. The KB remained in about the same place, meaning all the shipping to the SW, S, and SE that had altered course to avoid the carriers are that much further from the threat. Very nice!

Ndeni: Still no sign that the enemy is taking notice of this base. A USN three DD TF is going to raid Tulagi, where there is some enemy shipping. If the Japanese continue to seem unaware of the situation at Ndeni, the Allies will consider sliding some transports forward to Vanua Lava as soon as the KB moves away.

SoPac: Still no sign of Hiyo/Junyo. I was "sure" this TF was heading to Ndeni, but it is possible it has retired to replenish sorties or something of the sort.

NoPac: Wasp's F4F squadron is at Adak replacing losses. As soon as that is accomplished, the Allies will be ready to make another supply run into Para.

DEI: The Allies are on the offensive, but I don't think Japan realizes it yet. That's good. Developments:

Billiton Island: 120 AV and a detachment of engineers ashore.

Toabali: 75 AV ashore. By tomorrow, that should be 120 AV. Engineers will arrive in about a week.

Singkep: The Allies are slowly air-transporting a Dutch unit to this island just a few hexes SE of Singapore. Just seven AV to date, but given time the Allies will send about 100 AV here.

Sumatra: Palembang forts just went to level eight. Oosthaven is 7.71. The two enemy divisions (21 and 38) are indeed continuing to advance on Padang. The closest is one hex away and should arrive in about a week. An Indian armored unit (130 AV) just arrived at Padang, so the Allies will try another deliberate attack. 6th UK Brigade transports are perhaps four to five days out, with an even larger troop transport TF just south of Ceylon and about ten days away. 16 Allied SBDs from Djambi sortied against a DD TF at Singapore and put one bomb into Arashio. There was no CAP, an oversight that Steve will address, I'm sure. One enemy sub was heavily damaged at Oosthaven.

Burma: The Allies continue to move troops around, trying to create the appearance of a threat to the flank of the enemy force at Magwe.

China: In two days, a 4,000 AV Chinese army will arrive at the hex south of Ichang.

< Message edited by Canoerebel -- 10/21/2011 4:47:56 PM >

(in reply to ny59giants)

Post #: 1855

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/21/2011 4:58:26 PM

Cribtop

Posts: 3890
Joined: 8/10/2008
From: Lone Star Nation
Status: offline

With Palembang forts at eight, imagine the carnage even if Steve comes for the place whole hog. I think the time when Japan can take eastern Sumatra has passed.

_____________________________

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 1856

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/21/2011 5:14:46 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

I think so too. Thinking over the situation a few days ago, I estimated that Japan now has a 10% chance of winning a campaign for eastern Sumatra. It is within Japan's power, on the other hand, to win a campaign for the Gilberts and vicinity if enough force is commited. I wonder if that's a subconcious thought running through Steve's mind? That he can do something productive in the one theater, while the other doesn't hold a promise of much other than pain. Of coruse, the larger truth is that waging a campaign in CenPac when the DEI is in crisis is the worst thing you can do.

(in reply to Cribtop)

Post #: 1857

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/21/2011 5:21:11 PM

zuluhour

Posts: 5244
Joined: 1/20/2011
From: Maryland
Status: offline

newb 2 cents: CR congrats for summer of '42, from the "new comer" eye you have taken advantage of every turn. I think this single aspect cost Chaz since the outbreak of hostilities. Its very easy IMHO to neglect a turn or two here and there and get behind the eight ball against an astute opponent. I am looking forward to the developing storm.

(in reply to Cribtop)

Post #: 1858

RE: Das darf nicht var sein! - 10/22/2011 2:02:06 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

Top Allied pilots as of 8/13/42. Those US Army pilots in 54/57 flying P-39s were in the AVG until it was disbanded on July 4. For the past week or ten days, they have been on duty at Paramushiro, where I'm worried they might fall victim to much larger enemy fighter formations.