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RE: "Pocket Battleship" a misnomer? - 2/23/2011 4:17:01 PM   
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Very interesting footage. Did you notice the micro-changes in the B turret just before each of the salvos shown (looks like at least one salvo was shown multiple times). Either the B turret was slow to get the final adjustments, or this is part of creating the salvo spread.

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RE: "Pocket Battleship" a misnomer? - 2/23/2011 5:02:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nikademus
I'm still hoping someday to get some opposing viewpoints....

Not really an opposing viewpoint perhaps a different perspective?

It takes a while to make a weapon system, especially a naval one, so the ones you get are the ones you thought up a few years previously. The prospect of death (i.e, actual warfare) does tend to concentrate the mind, so what “is” becomes hostage to “what ought to be”. Unfortunately, the objective organizations, tactics, equipment of “what ought to be” runs into the subjective obstructions of those most concerned with “what is”. Since “is” has way more rank, influence, and access than “ought” (generally by being part of the system longer), then “is” tends to remain on the playing field a bit longer than it should.

Thus, perhaps, the coordination thing (basically, “Dude, I don’t give a crap what you want, I’m gonna use “MY” planes the way “I” want; and I got 2 more stars than you do, so bite me.”).

Thus, also, the cruiser thing. Pre-war, the Brits thought of cruisers as performing functions that supported their national (imperial) imperatives. So, lots more smaller ones that could do some duty in lots more places. Could they have built a gnarly, nasty, witch? Sure. But why, and to what purpose? They did what they did to support what they had. Germany, having nothing, could do whatever, since they had nothing to do whatever with.

It’s an interesting sociological proposition to think about since the US had the national/technical means to do anything, but had such a small military establishment that there weren’t enough “this is how it is” idiots to overcome the tidal wave of practical application. Similarly with the Russians; they were sundered from contemporary Western military thought and did what they did for their own purposes.

Shoot, howdy, this discussion could be fun.


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RE: "Pocket Battleship" a misnomer? - 2/23/2011 7:08:14 PM   
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As a part of my Master's research I read and copied every issue of the Navy's magazine Proceedings from 1921-1936 (the Treaty Years) and it was fascinating to the read the arguments within the Fleet as to early cruiser decisions (imagine 8" vs. 6", Torps vs. No Torps, Range, etc...), aircraft, and CV creation. Could have done some serious psychological work there JWE!


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