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New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 5:07:04 AM

Buck Beach

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I understand there was major damage and multiple deaths in Christ Church as a result of a 6.3 earthquake.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 5:12:17 AM

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I am worried about DivePac88 he is without a laptop due to a hardware failure. I know he lives in the mountains on the south island.
I really hope he and his family are ok :(

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 5:27:34 AM

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From the live tv pictures on the news here, it looks very, very bad. The quake struck at lunchtime on a week day and entire office buildings have pancaked or literally toppled over, with at least 65 deaths so far. The phone lines are all down and they have been advising people to text, rather than call, to avoid overloading the cell towers.

My sympathies and condolences to the people of Christchurch and New Zealand.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 5:50:09 AM

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FYI, I just got this from the owner of the Miramar ship site:

Hi Buck,
Nothing here in Wellington, we've been lucky again.
Bad in Christchurch. 6.3 Riochter Scale, only 5km deep and damage is very bad. 65 dead so far, many more trapped. The quake was centred near the port of Lyttelton, and other than a comment that "Lyttelton is not livable anymore" we don't know anything yet. All the casualties so far are in the centre of Christchurch city.

I have US cousins living in Orange County and they tell me stories of very shaky times.

Thanks for the good wishes,

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 5:57:25 AM

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As far as I know Azpretzo & Divepac88 live in Christchurch, Azpretzo had minor damage in the Sept quake.

Watching the News now, looks like the CBD copped it bad, as mentioned 65 confirmed casualties, and many missing.

Looks like my holiday next week is on hold.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 6:14:15 AM

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Wow I get news pushes on my phone and I was altered when the quake happened. 42 minutes after the quake I got a message saying that a US Navy Pacific fleet had already sent ships.
Now that is some rapid response time!

Hopefully some of the experience a year ago in Hati will help rescue some of the trapped.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 6:16:21 AM

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quote:

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As far as I know Azpretzo & Divepac88 live in Christchurch, Azpretzo had minor damage in the Sept quake.

Hopefully he does not mind me revealing his location. But DP told me he lives in a 'resort town in the mountains' on the south island. Beyond that I don't know. Hopefully he was away from the epicenter.
He did however tell me that his town had some minor clean up from the Sept quake. So who knows.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 6:16:33 AM

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Wow I get news pushes on my phone and I was altered when the quake happened. 42 minutes after the quake I got a message saying that a US Navy Pacific fleet had already sent ships.
Now that is some rapid response time!

Hopefully some of the experience a year ago in Hati will help rescue some of the trapped.

Enzeds wont let the USN arrive unless they sign off they are Nuclear free, maybe.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 6:25:16 AM

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quote:

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Wow I get news pushes on my phone and I was altered when the quake happened. 42 minutes after the quake I got a message saying that a US Navy Pacific fleet had already sent ships.
Now that is some rapid response time!

Hopefully some of the experience a year ago in Hati will help rescue some of the trapped.

Enzeds wont let the USN arrive unless they sign off they are Nuclear free, maybe.

I am pretty sure it is probably just transports. I am not expert but I think the USN has relief ships all around the world. I doubt any warships would respond.
I know for the Haiti earthquake they had food, medicine, doctors and Marines on the ground in less than 24 hours. I also read that as part of the Haiti earthquake the USN has a lot of 'earthquake' experts now who know how to stabilize buildings and do repair work as well as rescue those trapped in rubble.
I really don't like our giant defense budget or world spanning empire. But one of the good side effects is that we can provide relief to just about anywhere on planet Earth in less than 24 hours.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 6:33:34 AM

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Heard it just now!

Hey I hope all of you guys in the Christchurch area are ok!!!

Good luck over there, I wish I could do something to help.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 6:43:00 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JeffK

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ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

Wow I get news pushes on my phone and I was altered when the quake happened. 42 minutes after the quake I got a message saying that a US Navy Pacific fleet had already sent ships.
Now that is some rapid response time!

Hopefully some of the experience a year ago in Hati will help rescue some of the trapped.

Enzeds wont let the USN arrive unless they sign off they are Nuclear free, maybe.

Relations between the US and NZ have actually improved a lot in recent times, just before Christmas they signed a new defence co-operation pact, called the Wellington Agreement. While I doubt it would be much of an issue in circumstances such as these, especially as the amphibious assault ships are conventionally powered and their helicopters far more useful, than a nuclear powered aircraft carrier and its complement of jet aircraft.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 7:52:38 AM

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Very sorry to hear this.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 9:09:08 AM

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So far no Tsunami warning on the other shore of the Pacific!

I just want to express my solidarity and understanding, since we in Chile suffered equally almost a year ago.

Best wishes to all who are suffering and tryng to cope with this situation.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 10:48:47 AM

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Here's hoping our NZ friends (and their families) are safe. Sorry to hear the news.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 12:33:38 PM

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The Southern Pacific zone of which contain Australia and NZ seem to be experiencing some hard times lately from nature.

I have to admit that, in general, we have been spared major calamities and the ones we have had in the past tend to be spaced out a bit in time.

However, over the last few months we have tended to have one natural calamity after another - floods, bush fires, cyclones - almost right across the country with our northern areas still getting the brunt of it.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 1:20:55 PM

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Hi guys,

Please note that CV's are small cities. They bring power, water, food, hospitals, medical staff, engineers AND helicopters. They are remarkably useful in responding to natural disasters.

I add my wishes and prayers for the good people of NZ.

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ORIGINAL: noguaranteeofsanity

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ORIGINAL: JeffK

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ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

Wow I get news pushes on my phone and I was altered when the quake happened. 42 minutes after the quake I got a message saying that a US Navy Pacific fleet had already sent ships.
Now that is some rapid response time!

Hopefully some of the experience a year ago in Hati will help rescue some of the trapped.

Enzeds wont let the USN arrive unless they sign off they are Nuclear free, maybe.

Relations between the US and NZ have actually improved a lot in recent times, just before Christmas they signed a new defence co-operation pact, called the Wellington Agreement. While I doubt it would be much of an issue in circumstances such as these, especially as the amphibious assault ships are conventionally powered and their helicopters far more useful, than a nuclear powered aircraft carrier and its complement of jet aircraft.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 3:55:17 PM

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Go U.S. Navy, for all the crap people call us we ALWAYS help ANYONE that needs it.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 4:02:28 PM

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Hoping everything turns out well for guys down there.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 4:51:48 PM

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Divepac just started an AAR in the WitE forums, so he must be fine. Hope the same is true for Wobbly and his family.

The best to all our friends and comrades in New Zealand.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 5:00:20 PM

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Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 6:28:25 PM

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Hi;

My family and I are fine. Divepak lives a good distance further south and should be OK.

The first quake was pretty awful but this one, while being smaller on the richter scale, was closer and shallower. It also appeared to be lateral shaking rather than vertical, which the first one appeared to be. Buildings that had survived the first shake and 4000 aftershocks were probably slowly being undermined (although very regularly checked). This time they came down, and not just heritage buildings (altough they've been seriously thumped this time too). The central city has been seriously damaged with liquifaction.

I went INTO town to pick up my son. A picture of the liquifaction covering cars as I tried to drive past

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 6:31:06 PM

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This heritage church had survived the first quake and was shored up.

Not enough to last this one though - it is totalled. But thankfully also will not have had people in it.

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 6:35:22 PM

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Another church. All of the side fascias blown out. They might be able to save this one..

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RE: New Zealand friends??? - 2/22/2011 6:37:47 PM

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And this is one of the older pubs on the old main road into/out of Christchurch - just across the intersection from the church in the previous shot. It also got through the first quake with damage - don't think it will make it this time.