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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 7:11:47 PM   
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Yes, that's normal. He should be closing in on Pskov, generally. His supplies start off with extra supplies on normal. so he will be in good shape to free them and pocket your forces if you get them cut off. I wouldn't recommend that you get to far forward, as he will pocket you right up.


Senno, I still don't get it 1) they will be cut off 2) the territory behind them will be mine 3) his infantry can't catch up either, too early.

The only ones that can encircle me are precisely these units that I will be cutting off I mean, they will NOT be advancing this turn towards Pskov, Mogilev, Vitebsk (the territory around AND behind them is mine). That or I haven't understood anything, really


Holy Mother of God. That's an amazing counter-attack.....

Sheeshhh....

That's gotta hurt....

Not enough superlatives, sorry. Is that the most aggressive counter-attack turn 2 on these boards? I love it...

Everything south of the river, at least should have been isolated. He left so many units behind him that were easily broken free of isolation...Ideally everything north of the river, but south and east of the Panzers is also pocketed.

He left a lot of healty ants in his pants, and they bit hard on vital bits....

Turn 3 is going to be interesting...

But I might wait to comment until you put up screenies in future, lawl...

PeeDee's turn 2 shot is about what I thought you might be looking at in term of ACR's turn 2 movements.. Everything behind him pocketed. That was clearly not the case.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 7:27:05 PM   
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your going to quickly have to think of a name for your counterstoke operation as it deserves a name.


More "pic-a-nic baskets"? No Too early. He is supposed to spank me. And that's what he will be doing, no doubt

Alfonso, well, yes, I always want to know what the Panzers are doing. That's the scariest thing when you're the Soviet. You usually see them in the front line. And yes, I recon TO DEATH the same, even 10 or 15 hexes BEHIND the enemy front line. In fact I recon every 2 or 3 hexes. I don't like "surprises", unlike Comrade Kissof Believe me, the recon pilots earn their daily (or should I say weekly) vodka

As for the Southwest: I will do what I did on my other game. And here I won't be imitating the Soviet strategy. I do have 3 Big Objectives: protect Moscow and Leningrad and avoid the destruction of the Red Army.

As you can see, the Southwestern Front is NOT part of these objectives. He can do whatever he wants down there. I will try to delay him, yes. My STAVKA strategic reserves will not be diverted from my 3 vital objectives mentioned above though. In fact these 3 objectives mean: DO SURVIVE And that's what I will try to do. On my other AAR, on this one and on any game I might be playing. The plan is in fact really simple

As for reacting, it all depends on the Strategic Reserves. That's why killing many Soviet units is important. You don't kill them = many reserve divisions (on my other game that was lethal, in my opinion). No (or few) reserves? Make sure you made testament and pray.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 7:38:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think the idea that the German has to pile forward has affected his play here.

But its still no attempt whatsoever to guard his flanks and he won't do that again in a hurry!

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 7:42:32 PM   
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I think the idea that the German has to pile forward has affected his play here.

But its still no attempt whatsoever to guard his flanks and he won't do that again in a hurry!


Yeah. Now I see how my AGN could have been a bit worse. I bogged down at Pskov, not on the way....

And TD has really whacked him. So I can't wait to see how 2ndACR extricates the Panzers...err, or tries to extricate them....


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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 7:43:29 PM   
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Ideally everything north of the river, but south and east of the Panzers is also pocketed.


I hope we will see who is being a kamikaze. Me or him

And now, yes, turn almost done. Unlike on my other game, now I will be paying attention to the air war Soooo. I know I just sent all my guys to the national reserve on the last turn The case is many of them are back...

So, the big fronts: NW, W, SW and S => the VVS bases have one recon units and one transport unit (night mission: the partisans thing; on my other game I only paid attention to these brave guys on turn 8 or 9: no food & ammunition and even worse... no VODKA! )

Then these big fronts along with the Bryansk Front get planes too. Ideally: IAD = 3 fighters; BAD = 3 level bombers; SAD = 3 tactical bombers. If an air command does not have IAD and BAD but SAD I send everyone there. It's just chrome, I know, but I am an organization freak.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 7:47:11 PM   
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Ideally everything north of the river, but south and east of the Panzers is also pocketed.


I hope we will see who is being a kamikaze. Me or him

And now, yes, turn almost done. Unlike on my other game, now I will be paying attention to the air war Soooo. I know I just sent all my guys to the national reserve on the last turn The case is many of them are back...

So, the big fronts: NW, W, SW and S => the VVS bases have one recon units and one transport unit (night mission: the partisans thing; on my other game I only paid attention to these brave guys on turn 8 or 9: no food & ammunition and even worse... no VODKA! )

Then these big fronts along with the Bryansk Front get planes too. Ideally: IAD = 3 fighters; BAD = 3 level bombers; SAD = 3 tactical bombers. If an air command does not have IAD and BAD but SAD I send everyone there. It's just chrome, I know, but I am an organization freak.


You have made it exciting right from the start. Well done, indeed.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 7:51:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		It certainly gives hope to all those Soviet players who mentally prepare for seventeen turns of "Oh look, we've just been encircled for the nth time"

I reckon he can get out of it, but its going to stop him dead for a couple of turns, and thats good for the Soviets

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 7:53:16 PM   
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1) have FUN
2) do survive (if you're the Soviet) - or good hunt (if you're the German)

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 7:56:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Encircled, I am seeing a lot of people who don't want to jump into the water (PBEM, AAR): "not ready yet", etc. With all due respect: bolloc** This is not rocket science and the game is indeed a lot of fun. Winning, losing, who really cares?

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 7:58:36 PM   
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I've just decided after one GC as the Germans to take on a complete stranger as the Soviets and I've just offered to start another game with another.

I could be taking on Mainstein or Model for all I know!

Should be good fun though, and lets face it, thats the whole reason we play these games

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 7:59:50 PM   
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It certainly gives hope to all those Soviet players who mentally prepare for seventeen turns of "Oh look, we've just been encircled for the nth time"

I reckon he can get out of it, but its going to stop him dead for a couple of turns, and thats good for the Soviets


I agree. Does this make us a Tripartite Agreement?
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With ever growing forces, I predict the net effect is the battle for Leningrad starts now in earnest. The 4-alarm breakout in AGN is over. TD will fight a skillful battle of maneuver defense as he falls back while avoiding being "encircled". Not that he doesn't appreciate you, "encircled", he'd just like to be casual acquaintances... Not close relations....

Let's see if I am accurate, or just Miss Cleo, haha.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:03:36 PM   
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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:05:04 PM   
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Are we an "Axis of Evil"?



Haha. Pretty much have to be, no doubt...

And I'm not speaking of Gwen Stefani.....



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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:09:49 PM   
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Anyone nipped over to 2ACR's thread to see how Goebbels is reporting this?

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:11:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Encircled

Awaiting the next turn with interest

Anyone nipped over to 2ACR's thread to see how Goebbels is reporting this?


Haven't looked since last night. But I don't think he's updated?

I expect Goebbels to sound like Patton. He charged in all directions, with pistols in both hands and his sword in the other....


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I'd make a speech and ask TD to tear down those walls.... but he might need them for defense still. They aren't that far forward yet...

Wrong time period, I know.

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Back to TD's show.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:28:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Encircled

Awaiting the next turn with interest

Anyone nipped over to 2ACR's thread to see how Goebbels is reporting this?


Er, I suspect I am not welcome there But for sure GröFaZ aka Größter Feldherr aller Zeiten has got a cunning plan

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:30:54 PM   
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The last thing posted in his AAR was by me. It reads "You're gonna get some armor isolated in AGN."



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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:32:14 PM   
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The last thing posted in his AAR was by me. It reads "You're gonna get some armor isolated in AGN."




Prescient.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:34:24 PM   
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Understated.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:36:45 PM   
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"Elements of AGN are fighting hard in Russia, but as always, the Wehrmacht is advancing on all fronts and is ever victorious"

Not lying, but not mentioning the Russians that are behind them

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:37:45 PM   
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The last thing posted in his AAR was by me. It reads "You're gonna get some armor isolated in AGN."




LOL!

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:42:07 PM   
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Understated.


Modest.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:44:14 PM   
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Understated.


Modest.


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Molotov is wondering if it was just his imagination...."Wasn't someone just right there?"

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 8:58:44 PM   
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Uncle Joe had other plans though

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 9:24:05 PM   
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Along with the rank Marshal of the Soviet Union.

In addition, it is directed that a Guards Rifle Division be named for him.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 10:13:44 PM   
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Detrinsky Tullovich Guards. Look for them at the front of the assault on Paris.



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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 10:16:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nice job TD. I was wondering if you would see the move on the Rumanian border to pinch that southern armor. The counter attack on top of it is gold. I honestly don't know of 2ndACR is messing around with a new strat or what, but this is not his first try at the Axis. Not really sure what he is thinking of moving the German armor around like that. Its one thing to be aggressive and try to push the advance, but a person can't make crazy mistakes while he is at it either.

Be interesting to see how this plays out, but it isn't looking good for the Germans right now.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 10:20:11 PM   
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TD has brought in a lot more units than I have normally seen in an AAR. I suspect that is what has surprised 2ndACR. Most Soviets seem to try to setup at Pskov.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 10:40:42 PM   
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TD has brought in a lot more units than I have normally seen in an AAR. I suspect that is what has surprised 2ndACR. Most Soviets seem to try to setup at Pskov.


Yeah. And his loosely pocketed units were sufficiently mobile once the isolation was broken to move into excellent position. TD has untilized the units at his fingertips to great effect. So, interesting going from here. Maybe the Chinese "interesting" for 2ndACR.

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR ... - 3/7/2011 11:12:28 PM   
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I was wondering if you would see the move on the Rumanian border to pinch that southern armor. The counter attack on top of it is gold. I honestly don't know of 2ndACR is messing around with a new strat or what, but this is not his first try at the Axis. Not really sure what he is thinking of moving the German armor around like that. Its one thing to be aggressive and try to push the advance, but a person can't make crazy mistakes while he is at it either.


I'm not sure if I well understood, sorry "[...] if you would see the move on the Rumanian border to pinch that southern armor"? I was looking for a gap, and there it was Or are you suggesting that my opponent wanted me to do that? To activate Romanians (I really don't know if they are activated or not: never touched the Axis side)? Could be




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