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Airbases not auto-engaging air targets - 3/13/2011 6:04:42 PM   
itchy01ca

 

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Status: offline 		This has happened a few times and not just with airbases but with surface ships as well. Enemy aircraft appear in missile/sam range and... fly straight through with no interruption. No missiles hitting them, no warning, no combat air patrol firing them up, no intercept messages. Is this a glitch or a programming code thing? Harpoon is showing its age and I believe the code needs a major rework. There are still a LOT of issues and glitches, even from when i was playing the game back in the 90s. Awesome effort you guys have put into it, but harpoon looks not as professional as it could be. A group of Soviet Su-27 with Alamos and archers NOT being able to engage a flight of F-18s? Unacceptable, especially after all we have learned about Russian technology from the late 80s early 90s. This coming from a serving air force officer, who has seen Russian and American technology up close and personnel.
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RE: Airbases not auto-engaging air targets - 3/13/2011 6:10:17 PM   
fguerin35


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From: Orléans, France
Status: offline 		Hi there,

I noticed the same passive behavior of intercept/patrol missions. Only thing possible to make units react is to have them assigned to plotted/ferry missions. But this tweak won't work for land structures alas...

Have a nice day, regards

Cdr Sylvester

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RE: Airbases not auto-engaging air targets - 3/13/2011 6:11:55 PM   
itchy01ca

 

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Status: offline 		Have to include the game i was talking about i guess: HCE Ultimate Edition. 

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RE: Airbases not auto-engaging air targets - 3/13/2011 6:26:22 PM   
TonyE


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Joined: 5/23/2006
From: MN, USA
Status: offline 		What scenario and battleset are you using?

Maintaining the game is a volunteer effort, we welcome assistance, see http://www.harpgamer.com for where the action happens.

As for Su-27 taking down F/A-18, that certainly happens in the game especially in the EC2003 and newer battlesets where the database is editable and masterfully maintained by Brad Leyte/CV32.

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RE: Airbases not auto-engaging air targets - 3/13/2011 7:20:08 PM   
Warhorse64

 

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Status: offline 		I used to notice this sort of behaviour in the older battlesets, for example in the original Desert Storm scenarios in IOPG or the MEDC scenario where the Iowa takes on Syria, where enemy aircraft which did not have air to surface weapons loaded would be ignored by my air defence weapons, whether I liked it or not. So an unarmed recon aircraft, or a fighter loaded only for air to air, could fly unmolested right through the middle of my ship formation, and nothing I could do about it. As I recall, if the enemy unit did anything hostile, like shoot at one of my formation helos, the air defences would engage it immediately. I don't know that I've ever seen this happen in EC2003 or Westpac, but that may be more a reflection of the type of scenarios I like to play these days, too.

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RE: Airbases not auto-engaging air targets - 3/13/2011 7:37:49 PM   
itchy01ca

 

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Status: offline 		Ah, well im just trying out some of the older/est battlesets, so that could be an issue. Do all the battlesets have different databases for sensors and missile ranges and such?

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RE: Airbases not auto-engaging air targets - 3/13/2011 10:15:14 PM   
TonyE


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From: MN, USA
Status: offline 		Yes, everything before EC2000 has pretty unique values from the time at which they were created. EC2000 has quite a bit of commonality between the four battlesets. Then EC2003 and newer all use the commondb format so you can swap in and out different databases and edit the commondb database itself.

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