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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/15/2011 12:30:24 PM

GreyJoy

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Yes, with those two missions we destroyed 240 Frank production factories! Now we need to end the job about Franks and KI-83...then we'll start taking care of Georges and Shindens

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/15/2011 3:06:59 PM

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Too much fun.... i was a bit "high" having drunk too much wine mixed with GreyGoose Vodka...and i had the mobile in my hands....happened that i mismatched the number of my GF with another girl and i made a mess...
....and here comes the storm of the day after

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/15/2011 4:54:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

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Regarding his actions in the SoPac

Could he be trying to marsikova, or whatever, you by drawing your attention away from the main show?

Rader has stated that he wanted to kill my Cruisers there and, at the same time, relieve his isolated garrisons...for sure for the reason NY59 has pointed out!
But i really do think that it was a waste of precious resources...3 CAs down and 4 DDs, along with another CA and 1 CL damaged is really too much for the potential gain of some 3/4 Allied old CLs....

Rader seems to be a bit adrift since your invasion. It has thrown him off balance. His reaction has not been fast. He needs to beat you big and the olny way I can see it happen is with his navy. The longer he waits the worse off his situation becomes. It is an outside chance at best but his only chance. His adventure in the Solomons is a waste of resources. Even if he came out of it victorious, it would not alter his strategic delimma one bit.

In all fairness to him, I myself would be hard pressed to come up with a solution to his problems.

Or course, after his boo boo last night, GJ may be wishing that he was Rader this morning....

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/15/2011 4:58:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

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ORIGINAL: soticrandy

Regarding his actions in the SoPac

Could he be trying to marsikova, or whatever, you by drawing your attention away from the main show?

Rader has stated that he wanted to kill my Cruisers there and, at the same time, relieve his isolated garrisons...for sure for the reason NY59 has pointed out!
But i really do think that it was a waste of precious resources...3 CAs down and 4 DDs, along with another CA and 1 CL damaged is really too much for the potential gain of some 3/4 Allied old CLs....

Rader seems to be a bit adrift since your invasion. It has thrown him off balance. His reaction has not been fast. He needs to beat you big and the olny way I can see it happen is with his navy. The longer he waits the worse off his situation becomes. It is an outside chance at best but his only chance. His adventure in the Solomons is a waste of resources. Even if he came out of it victorious, it would not alter his strategic delimma one bit.

In all fairness to him, I myself would be hard pressed to come up with a solution to his problems.

Indeed, CRS. Reminds me of the e-mail my first PBEM opponent sent me on Dec 7, '41. "Good luck. See in Tokyo Bay in 4 years. Bring a pen."

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/15/2011 5:46:02 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cribtop

quote:

ORIGINAL: crsutton

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

quote:

ORIGINAL: soticrandy

Regarding his actions in the SoPac

Could he be trying to marsikova, or whatever, you by drawing your attention away from the main show?

Rader has stated that he wanted to kill my Cruisers there and, at the same time, relieve his isolated garrisons...for sure for the reason NY59 has pointed out!
But i really do think that it was a waste of precious resources...3 CAs down and 4 DDs, along with another CA and 1 CL damaged is really too much for the potential gain of some 3/4 Allied old CLs....

Rader seems to be a bit adrift since your invasion. It has thrown him off balance. His reaction has not been fast. He needs to beat you big and the olny way I can see it happen is with his navy. The longer he waits the worse off his situation becomes. It is an outside chance at best but his only chance. His adventure in the Solomons is a waste of resources. Even if he came out of it victorious, it would not alter his strategic delimma one bit.

In all fairness to him, I myself would be hard pressed to come up with a solution to his problems.

Indeed, CRS. Reminds me of the e-mail my first PBEM opponent sent me on Dec 7, '41. "Good luck. See in Tokyo Bay in 4 years. Bring a pen."

Brilliant psych out. Great line. That should be your signature....even if you have to hijack it..

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/16/2011 8:25:39 PM

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No update...

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/16/2011 8:43:33 PM

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I wonder if his girlfirend is punishing him?

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/16/2011 8:48:17 PM

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If she found out about the phone call then some form of punishment is expected. But I am sure Greyjoy will retaliate by penetrating deep through the "northern route".

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/16/2011 9:20:47 PM

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If she found out about the phone call then some form of punishment is expected. But I am sure Greyjoy will retaliate by penetrating deep through the "northern route".

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/16/2011 10:58:12 PM

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I think I'll take Graefin Zeppelin from my list of potential PBEM candidates. She appears to be one mean lady...

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/16/2011 11:10:13 PM

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hahaahh

No, she's an angel...despite she got pissed like hell, i used all my rethoric (sp!?) art to get out of that swamp pretty well....yesterday night i went to another "good" christmas dinner and went home too tired and too late to update...today i got one of my worst working days ever with 14 and half hours in a row of constant typing

...

However, here i am once again my friends! :)

June 12, 13 1944

KB finally came up...and attacked (with 80 bombers) a lone xAK which was moving from Panama to PH...so the dreaded KB is there uh!?

Another Carrier division attacked a lone DD near Perth (i guess only 1 CV present here).

My CVs are moving back to PH just in case...but i think the Kb will move away asap. No problem tough...as long as she doesn't threaten my convoy routes i'm happy with this positioning.
My convoys reached Hokkaido safely and we're now ready for the next phase.

Under a costant CAP by my CVEs a minor landing occurred at Ketoi-Jima. Our 2Es made a great job dealing with the strong garrison present there (a full regiment, backed up by a SNLF) and our landing amphib composition (which was the best possible one) did the rest. only APA/AKA, LCI, LGI and ACGs.
We landed an Indian Bde fully prepped along with 2 Tank Bn and one marine rgt not prepped....the difference was absymal!!!
Anyway...in one single phase we got down along with 80k supplies

Tomorrow we'll attack and i'm pretty sure we'll conquer the base.
Then it will be time for Onnekotan and Paramushiro.

Our 4es were supposed to attack Maebashi for the second time but 2 days of storm didn't allow to do so...

In northern Honshu enemy troops are flowing in a sensible manner....every day the northern garrisons grow in number and strenght....will be damned bloody!

In NG we managed to break his perimeter around Salamua and the II AUS Corp (27th US DIV and 3rd AUS Div) entered into the base hex defended by 46k japs but so isolating the enemy 16th Army (5th div and 2 Rgts)which was contesting to my I AUS Corp the hex northeast of Buna

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Night Naval bombardment of Akita at 117,55 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

86 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BC Renown
CA Exeter
CA Louisville
CA Portland, Shell hits 2
CL Denver
DD Uhlmann
DD William Porter, Shell hits 1
DD Picking
DD McCord
DD Marshall
DD Luce
DD Longshaw

Japanese ground losses:
187 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 13 (4 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Light Industry hits 1
Oil hits 1
Manpower hits 18
Fires 4130
Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 74
Port hits 39
Port supply hits 13

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Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 134,50 (Ketoi-jima)
Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 15
B-25D1 Mitchell x 39
B-25G Mitchell x 44
B-25H Mitchell x 33
P-40N5 Warhawk x 11
P-51B Mustang x 12
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 29

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
535 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 40 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Busselton at 36,148

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 9
D4Y3 Judy x 19

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Worden, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk

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Pre-Invasion action off Ketoi-jima (134,50)

28 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Valiant
CL Caradoc
DD King
LCI-70
LCI-69
LCI-68
LCI-67
LCI-66
LCI-65
LCI-64
LCI-61
LCI-526
LCI-529
DD MacDonough

Japanese ground losses:
401 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Amphibious Assault at Ketoi-jima (134,50)

TF 148 troops unloading over beach at Ketoi-jima, 134,50

Allied ground losses:
445 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 99 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 124 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 47 (0 destroyed, 47 disabled)
Vehicles lost 179 (1 destroyed, 178 disabled)

Motorized Support damaged beyond repair during unload of 29th Marine Rgt /5

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Hilo at 211,110

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 27
B7A2 Grace x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK James B. Aswell, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk

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Ground combat at Ketoi-jima (134,50)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2877 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 63

Defending force 7971 troops, 142 guns, 338 vehicles, Assault Value = 319

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
77th Infantry Regiment
Maizuru 4th SNLF
54th JNAF AF Unit /1

Defending units:
706th Tank Battalion
711th Tank Battalion
29th Marine Regiment
Lushai Brigade

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/16/2011 11:22:31 PM

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+1

I wonder if his girlfirend is punishing him?

She wasn't there to punish me

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/16/2011 11:28:31 PM

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Here's the Kb position...

Could it be a trap ? Could it be that it's only a couple of minor CVs trying to get my CVs there in order to savage my transports near Hokkaido or my Convoys in the Aleutinas??

mmmmm.....

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/16/2011 11:43:11 PM

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quote:

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+1

I wonder if his girlfirend is punishing him?

She wasn't there to punish me

Good lord man! I advise you in the strongest possible terms to wear something more appropriate when you are signing something in Tokyo Bay!

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 12:17:08 AM

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The worst possible turn....

My fighters decided once in a while to coordinate with themselfs.... BUT they swept AFTER my bombers!

The poor bastards arrived over Maebashi without any cover and got slaughtered.... i guess more than 200 4Es got destroyed in 2 days... that's months of production gone for good in a single shot!!!...this will put a serious dent on my strat bombing campaign....

Oh, and yes, it's the KB near Hawaii...you know what? it's 1944...3 torps into Akagi....NO EXPLOSION!!!!!!

FRACK!!!!!!...says Lt.Starbucks

What should i do now?...i cannot go on anymore with my strat bombing campaign....og Good Lord

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 14, 44
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Sub attack near Hilo at 212,111

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi
DD Shimozuki

Allied Ships
SS Sea Fox, hits 3

SS Sea Fox launches 6 torpedoes at CV Akagi
Sea Fox diving deep ....
DD Shimozuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shimozuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shimozuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shimozuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Shimozuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on TF, near San Diego at 213,109

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 13
B7A2 Grace x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Stanley Park, Bomb hits 11, and is sunk

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tulagi at 114,137 KAMIKAZE
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 186 NM, estimated altitude 40,400 feet.
Estimated time to target is 46 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 42

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 7
Spitfire VIII x 2
P-38H Lightning x 19
P-40K Warhawk x 3
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12
F4U-1A Corsair x 1
F6F-3 Hellcat x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 23 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 7
A6M5 Zero x 170
A6M5c Zero x 66
J2M3 Jack x 75
N1K1-J George x 300
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 259
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 29
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 36
Ki-84a Frank x 150
Ki-100-I Tony x 45
Ki-102b Randy x 38

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.III x 16
Liberator B.VI x 16
B-24D1 Liberator x 39
B-24J Liberator x 155
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 48

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 3 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.III: 5 destroyed, 4 damaged
Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 9 destroyed, 34 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 4 destroyed, 10 damaged

Ki-83 factory hits 1
Ki-84a Frank factory hits 2
Ki-83 factory hits 6

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Afternoon Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 60 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5
A6M5 Zero x 100
A6M5c Zero x 48
J2M3 Jack x 51
N1K1-J George x 211
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 153
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 21
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 25
Ki-84a Frank x 112
Ki-100-I Tony x 31
Ki-102b Randy x 28

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 15
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
B-24J Liberator x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 7 damaged

A7M2 Sam factory hits 1
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Afternoon Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 2
A6M5 Zero x 58
A6M5c Zero x 38
J2M3 Jack x 44
N1K1-J George x 160
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 108
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 16
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 21
Ki-84a Frank x 82
Ki-100-I Tony x 26
Ki-102b Randy x 26

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 12
B-24D1 Liberator x 12
B-24J Liberator x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 4 destroyed, 9 damaged

N1K1-J George factory hits 1

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Afternoon Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 39,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 45
A6M5c Zero x 33
J2M3 Jack x 40
N1K1-J George x 139
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 75
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 12
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 62
Ki-100-I Tony x 24
Ki-102b Randy x 23

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 68
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 208

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 7 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 9 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 38
A6M5c Zero x 30
J2M3 Jack x 32
N1K1-J George x 122
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 59
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 50
Ki-100-I Tony x 23
Ki-102b Randy x 22

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

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Afternoon Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 35
A6M5c Zero x 27
J2M3 Jack x 28
N1K1-J George x 113
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 56
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 46
Ki-100-I Tony x 23
Ki-102b Randy x 22

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

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Afternoon Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 34
A6M5c Zero x 25
J2M3 Jack x 28
N1K1-J George x 111
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 54
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 19
Ki-84a Frank x 44
Ki-100-I Tony x 23
Ki-102b Randy x 22

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

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Ground combat at Ketoi-jima (134,50)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4545 troops, 48 guns, 294 vehicles, Assault Value = 342

Defending force 2542 troops, 41 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 44

Allied adjusted assault: 115

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Ketoi-jima !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
373 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (13 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
706th Tank Battalion
29th Marine Regiment
711th Tank Battalion
Lushai Brigade

Defending units:
77th Infantry Regiment
Maizuru 4th SNLF

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 12:18:24 AM

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 12:22:25 AM

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Ok, a stiff reaction it's what i need.
Time to put back my 4Es squadrons and start to use the 100 Fortress i have by now. In one weeks we should be able to have 150 B-29 operative.
I'll invest my best crews in them and switch to training groups most of my liberators squadrons...

A damned ugly bad turn if you ask me....

Those Kamikazes in the Solomons really scared me.... at Panggoe 30 of them arrived at 44k feet....and none of my fighters was able to catch them....

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 12:35:17 AM

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Using Kamis at that altitude is rather naughty IMO.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 1:30:15 AM

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Ser Greyjoy...at least you know where Akagi is...and where Akagi is, usually means that at least a large number of his CVs are too. Yes, it could be a trap just to draw you far away from the real action in N Japan, but I think not. Me thinks he is trying to intercept large troop movements from the US, while avoiding tripping over your very formitable CV force. I doubt an invasion of Hawaii is feasible, but just maybe.

Just how did you happen to have a sub in that area? That alone was fortunate. Was it just in transit to PH and happened to be in the right place, at the right time, with the wrong torpedos....geez. Definite downer.

About the party attire....well, very medival of you. I did not know the codpiece was back in style:). I'm sure the girls were all atwitter.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 1:46:01 AM

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Ok, a stiff reaction it's what i need.
Time to put back my 4Es squadrons and start to use the 100 Fortress i have by now. In one weeks we should be able to have 150 B-29 operative.
I'll invest my best crews in them and switch to training groups most of my liberators squadrons...

A damned ugly bad turn if you ask me....

Those Kamikazes in the Solomons really scared me.... at Panggoe 30 of them arrived at 44k feet....and none of my fighters was able to catch them....

Why split your forces?

Better to go back in with all your Libs & the fortresses instead of one or the other.

The bigger the hammer you hit him with the lower your proportionate losses will be.

Same reason you're better off with one big coordinated strike rather than a mess of smaller ones.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 1:54:50 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: pat.casey

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Ok, a stiff reaction it's what i need.
Time to put back my 4Es squadrons and start to use the 100 Fortress i have by now. In one weeks we should be able to have 150 B-29 operative.
I'll invest my best crews in them and switch to training groups most of my liberators squadrons...

A damned ugly bad turn if you ask me....

Those Kamikazes in the Solomons really scared me.... at Panggoe 30 of them arrived at 44k feet....and none of my fighters was able to catch them....

Why split your forces?

Better to go back in with all your Libs & the fortresses instead of one or the other.

The bigger the hammer you hit him with the lower your proportionate losses will be.

Same reason you're better off with one big coordinated strike rather than a mess of smaller ones.

Agree. If you need to stand down some bombers as training groups, use the 2Es. Keep all the 4Es working hard!

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 10:33:27 AM

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Bad luck with the torpedoes there. I would be willing to guess that most of the KB is around the same place searching for troop convoys. If you think that the carriers are out of position, is it possible to quickly put together invasions of Sadogashima and the other two island bases in the Sea of Japan, Okishoto and Illeungodo (spelling?). Even if the troops have to go in with a low preparation it is surely an opportunity to get more allied fighters closer to the Japanese fighter factories. Importantly, sweeping fighters from the bases closer to the enemy factories will likely arrive before the bombers from the more distant bases. Sure, losses for the transports will likely be horrible but this looks to be a golden opportunity.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 10:44:30 AM

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i think i concur with yubari, a suicide invasion of that little island in the sea of japan despite a very high cost in possibly transports or even putting your surface fleet / carriers at risk, would be worth it to get an airbase taht close to the jap homeland

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 2:03:27 PM

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An invasion of Sadogashima now is out of question. The base is well defended and i cannot arrange a decent landing force distracting units from their prepped destinations. His air forces are still so strong that it would be a disaster imho...you don't have just to conquer the base. Then you need to keep it open and resupplied...

No, sorry but i'll stick to the original plan for now. Finish the conquest of the Kuriles, thus securing my flanks and getting ready for the Honshu invasion.

Plus my CVs are out of position too...being looking for the KB... which disappeared again in the shades....however she still is far away from home...and Bolton: no, wasn't luck. I have several subs guarding the approaches between Christmas and PH...when i sniffed the KB there i simply enlarged the perimeters of their searchs...

Do you like Codpieces?

I have other interesting pics taken from the other night but i'm sure you don't wanna see the penguin awaken

My divide my 4E forces? well, i don't wanna divide them but my Liberators suffered so much that i need to make some of those squadrons to rest and rebuild(many of them have only 1 or 2 planes with 4 or 5 pilots left

...and i have no pools to fill the gaps in my lines...)

Anyway now i'm still re-organizing...for some days we'll just have sweep missions over japan....

Jun 16, 17 1944

Today, finally, after several suicide missions, CA Sussex - meant to withdraw 10 days ago, has been torpedoed near Aika and now is ready to go beneath the waves.
The mission costed to Japan several Peggy-Ts with good crews and the pround british ship has done enough damage to Aikia port facilities in the last 2 weeks to be ready to be disbanded and sunk without tears

Our P-47s swept Maebashi again, obtaining a very good score.

DD raid near Perth costed me 4 xAKs...nothing more and nothing to be worried about.

Starting to load at uruppu Jiima the amphib landing force for onnekotan and Paramushiro...that are being softened by our BBs and 2Es in the meanwhile.

keijo-jima garrison has already completely been wiped out. Fast and Clean

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 16, 44
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Night Naval bombardment of Akita at 117,55

Allied Ships
CA Sussex

Japanese ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (3 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Manpower hits 2
Fires 733
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 27
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

CA Sussex firing at Akita

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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 30
A6M5c Zero x 15
J2M3 Jack x 33
N1K1-J George x 50
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 73
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 21
Ki-84a Frank x 13
Ki-100-I Tony x 1
Ki-102b Randy x 26

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Akita at 117,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 27

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 11
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 10
F4U-1 Corsair x 10
F4U-1A Corsair x 51

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 17 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CA Sussex, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 27
A6M5c Zero x 12
J2M3 Jack x 28
N1K1-J George x 40
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 66
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 21
Ki-84a Frank x 10
Ki-100-I Tony x 1
Ki-102b Randy x 19

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 209

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 8 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 3 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Maebashi , at 113,59

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 11
A6M5c Zero x 7
J2M3 Jack x 24
N1K1-J George x 34
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 52
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 15
Ki-84a Frank x 9
Ki-100-I Tony x 1
Ki-102b Randy x 4

Allied aircraft
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 6 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Night Naval bombardment of Onnekotan-jima at 136,48 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Washington, Shell hits 1
CA Chicago II
CA Cumberland
CL Houston II
CL Vincennes II

Japanese ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 52
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 2

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 2:05:06 PM

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GreyJoy, pardon me for offering advice to my favorite prodigy, but I wanted to mention another possibility.

You have the position from which to reduce Japanese industry in the northern half of Honshu, and have already gone a long way towards accomplishing that.

To put yourself in a position to reduce the southern half, you could take Formosa (and possibly Okinawa). Doing that would, of course, sever Honshu from the DEI and would almost certainly result in a titanic carrier engagement - one that would cost you some ships, but which would (again, almost certainly) be an Allied victory. It would also prevent rader from bringing units back to Honshu by sea from the south, though by the time you could orchestrate such a move he would have had lots of time already.

Were the dominoes to fall in such fashion, rader's surrender would almost certainly come in short order.

There is something rather magical about successfully invading Honshu. That will succeed, I think, but it will likely end up being pretty slow going. The idea I've just offered might offer an alternative route to victory - one that rader might not expect.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 2:09:24 PM

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I am begining to think that the game mechanics [an emphasis on incoordination for large bomber/fighter formations]] , Home rules that greatly influence the optimum use of bombing, and a strict historical OOB vs. a very ahistorical scenario -- mid-44 4E attacks against the IJ strength might not be the panacea that at least I orginally thought. The game mechanics is the most interesting factor that one must look at this situation differently than real life. It seems the fighters typically sweep after the bombers more times than not. Though most likely the opposite would be true. It is just a game mechanic and it just is ... a great lesson for a newbie like myself .. I do wonder if waiting for B-29's and then coming with the full on the 4E's is not a better solution?

Then again GreyJoy has shut down most if not all of the future high speed aircraft production and will be facing inferior fighters with much more superior fighters in '45.

The three torps not exploding are ! P(.20) * !P(.20) * !P(.20) or 0.008 or less than 1% chance of that occuring if these die rolls are truly random ... what bad luck! That is less likely than the worse bad beat you see on ESPN and the World Series of Poker!

I am enjoying the read GreyJoy ...

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 2:13:51 PM

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Intersting input about the odds, Crackaces. And you're right about the coordination situation.

GJ, I must pause once again to publicly admire the majesty of Suddenly Hairy. Wow. It's June 1944 and you've laid waste to many of Japan's best future fighter industry. Wow. Just...wow.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 2:33:41 PM

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CR, i do think that an invasion of Formosa or Okinawa now would mean give Rader another chance to turn the tables back again. That would be a massive risky operation, with a lot of question marks in its very basis.
I now almost nothing about his dispositions there and i'll be facing a combined threat by several 9 lvl AFs and surely KB...secondly i won't be able to arrive there unseen...Rader will have all the time to get ready and to welcome me...
No, i see the strategical opportunity you're underlining here and i agree that the war will be ending much faster once Japan was cut off by his oil routes...but i simply think that, considering the present strategical situation we're in, the prize isn't worth the risk.

About the air combat system...well, consider that we've done already at least 20 strat bombing missions over the skies of Japan...and only this one went so awful...so i think this is just a case of particularly bad dice and rolls...nothing more.

And Rader's a/c production is far from being destroyed...there are still several factories R&Ring Shindens, Sams, KI-83s, KI-201s and several other speed-master fighters....we need to carry on with our task.

In a week we'll have available 140 B-29s and some 200 B-24s....that means the equivalent of 600 B24s.... our strenght in terms of bombload hasn't been destroyed...not yet!

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 2:40:54 PM

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 3:26:54 PM

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The other advantage of invading northern Honshu is that there aren't actually that many Japanese air bases in very close proximity - meaning those can be shut down. And you will be fighting in range of your 2E bombers - which will absolutely massacre any force out in the open. Obviously he will have lots of forts and forces in theater, but unless he can kick you out immediately, you should prevail relatively quickly - just look at how quickly you tore apart 10 divisions on Hokkaido.

This is where the two day turns come in handy, as he won't be able to counter-attack in force until two days after your landing - meaning you should get lots of forces onto the beach, and they should already have recovered a lot of any disruption incurred while landing.

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