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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 3:55:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: Gr�fin Zeppelin

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ORIGINAL: Olorin

If she found out about the phone call then some form of punishment is expected. But I am sure Greyjoy will retaliate by penetrating deep through the "northern route".

Was it Teddy Roosevelt who said "Dress sexy and carry a smallish bat"?

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 4:11:47 PM

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+1

I wonder if his girlfirend is punishing him?

She wasn't there to punish me

Oh god help me! My eyes are burning and I can no longer see.

Two things. Don't worry about your botched raid. It was bound to happen sooner or later and you still put a few hits on his factories. However, could you have had some LRCAP over the target? They would have gotten clobbered but would have soaked up some of the damage that you heavies took. Even two or three squadrons on LRCAP might have saved you 100 bombers.

Also Akagi is pretty slow to be using as a raider. He has plenty of faster carriers for that purpose. That would suggest that you were seeing his main carrier force.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/17/2011 7:22:52 PM

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Actually Akagi is pretty decent at 31/16 knots - as fast as or just 1 knot slower than majority of Japan's long range DDs, so the Akagi is probably with the faster Shokakus, Unryus, Soryu and Hiryu... Unless if the KB is split.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/18/2011 6:21:10 AM

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Actually Akagi is pretty decent at 31/16 knots - as fast as or just 1 knot slower than majority of Japan's long range DDs, so the Akagi is probably with the faster Shokakus, Unryus, Soryu and Hiryu... Unless if the KB is split.

You are right. I had her mixed up with Kaga.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/18/2011 1:00:38 PM

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My CVs didn't find his KB....don't have a clue of where she went...i have subs, planes on naval search, everything to locate the KB but she simply disappeared in the shades of the ocean...

Our P-47s are sweeping central Japan, obtaining a fantastic 1-25 kill ratio

...pilot and airframe superior quality are really payin' off...

Tomorrow our amphib TFs will move to attack Onnekotan and Paramushiro...then the second phase of suddenly hairy will defenetly be over

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/18/2011 1:18:14 PM

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Great idea - if coordinating is a problem, sweep, sweep, sweep, then hit the factories. Good luck!

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/18/2011 2:41:07 PM

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Ser Greyjoy....it is nice to see the LYBs planes fall down and go BOOM!. As Paullus suggests, sweep the skies clean of those vermin. They are numerous, but not infinite. Of course this is especially true when coupled with your strategic bombing objective.

I still counsel caution about landing in Honshu, but that counsel comes from the point of view of just avoiding war losing risks. If the LYBs insist on steaming the KB hither and yon in the eastern Pacific, then you have, for all intents and purposes, removed it from the field of battle without firing a shot. Landing in Honshu without the threat of major CV intervention does indeed make things far less risky.

Tallyho, the Penguin...may your lance stay straight and true:).

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/18/2011 3:45:28 PM

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What are the chances the Akagi would have gone down if one of the torpedoes had hit?

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/18/2011 3:51:10 PM

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What are the chances the Akagi would have gone down if one of the torpedoes had hit?

Depending on a critical hit .. that far from home any level of fires and flooding would have been a huge problem. As opposed to being say one day's sailing from a frendly dock that can extinigish the fires and stop the flooding .. the Akagi is miles from home ...

The problem was not a' hit' -- Greyjoy had the bad beat of three consecutive duds in '44 ...

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/18/2011 4:00:06 PM

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BTW Crackaces, your math was wrong. The dud rate is only 10% now, not 20%. The actual chance of that happening is .001 or .1%.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/18/2011 4:08:43 PM

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BTW Crackaces, your math was wrong. The dud rate is only 10% now, not 20%. The actual chance of that happening is .001 or .1%.

The math was right three independent probabilites .... I just used the wrong numbers ...

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In January 1943, all torpedoes with a dud rate of greater than 49 have their dud rates reduced
by 20. In September 1943, all torpedoes with an adjusted dud rate greater than 20 have their
dud rates lowered to 10. Allied torpedoes were notoriously inefficient in the early stages of the
Pacific War, and this rule reflects their slow but steady improvement over the years.

However, in statistical terms .. it even more qualifies as the worse bad beat I have ever seen!

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/18/2011 4:54:01 PM

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Yes, I stand corrected, math was right, wrong data used.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/18/2011 5:00:12 PM

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Yes, I stand corrected, math was right, wrong data used.

Well I used P(.20) because I read the rules that it is quite possible that the random die roll produces a torp with P(.20)

.. as I read the document it says "with an adjusted dud rate greater than 20 have their dud rates lowered to 10" So I assumed the best case was that a random dud was P(.20) and not adjusted

.. but the worst possible bad beat is P(.10) * P(.10) * P(.10) as you so brought out ..

Anyway there was logic behind my thoughts ...

Back to GreyJoy and reducing Japan to rubble ...

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/18/2011 5:33:43 PM

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i've seen more incredible stuff happen playing axis and allies seen an air defense aa gun roll 6 1's on 6 sided dice and shoot down an entire airforce in one turn, cant remember think thats like a 1 in 100,000 shot lol

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/18/2011 6:32:41 PM

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Jun 22, 23 1944

Landings at Onnekotan and Paramushiro. His garrisons are still pretty strong and it's not going to be an walk in the park...

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Pre-Invasion action off Onnekotan-jima (136,48) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

122 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Valiant, Shell hits 2
BB Idaho
BB Colorado
CL Caradoc
DD King
DD Gilmer
DD Hull
DD Dewey
LCI-526
LCI-531
LCI-533
LCI-70
LCI-69
LCI-68
LCI-67
LCI-66
LCI-65
LCI-64
LCI-61
APA Doyen
LCI-535
LCI-529
DD MacDonough

Japanese ground losses:
289 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Amphibious Assault at Onnekotan-jima (136,48)

TF 148 troops unloading over beach at Onnekotan-jima, 136,48

Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (4 destroyed, 3 disabled)

10 troops of a US Cmbt Eng Sqd 43 lost from landing craft during unload of I Corps Cmbt Engr Rgt
Motorized Support lost overboard during unload of I Corps Cmbt Engr Rgt /3
10 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 77th Infantry Div
10 Support troops lost overboard during unload of I Aus Corps Engr Bn
9 troops of a Bren Section (PIAT) lost overboard during unload of 6th Australian Div
11 troops of a AIF Inf Section 44 accidentally lost during unload of 6th Australian Div /7
10 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of I Corps Cmbt Engr Rgt /5
M5 Stuart Light Tank lost from landing craft during unload of 763rd Tank Bn
Motorized Support accidentally lost during unload of 88th Medium Rgt /2
Motorized Support damaged beyond repair during unload of 6th Australian Div /12

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Invasion Support action off Onnekotan-jima (136,48) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

98 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Valiant
BB Idaho, Shell hits 3
BB Colorado, Shell hits 2
CL Caradoc, Shell hits 1
DD Gilmer
DD MacDonough
DD Dewey
LCI-70
LCI-69
LCI-68
LCI-67
LCI-66
LCI-65
LCI-64
LCI-61
LCI-533
LCI-526
LCI-529
LCI-531
DD Hull
DD King
LCI-535
APA Doyen

Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Pre-Invasion action off Paramushiro-jima (137,47) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

93 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Queen Elizabeth
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 3
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 7
DD Roe
DD Warrington
DD Frankford
DD McCook
LCI-21
LCI-23
DD Benham
LCI-24

Japanese ground losses:
224 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Amphibious Assault at Paramushiro-jima (137,47)

TF 63 troops unloading over beach at Paramushiro-jima, 137,47

Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Motorized Support damaged beyond repair during unload of 762nd Tank Bn /2
Motorized Support dropped into water during unload of 13th Canadian Bde /3
105mm M2 Howitzer lost in surf during unload of 31st Infantry Div /3
10 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 18th Canadian Bde /11

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Invasion Support action off Onnekotan-jima (136,48)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

23 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
LCI-529, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Valiant
BB Idaho
LCI-533, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
LCI-531
LCI-70
LCI-69
LCI-68
LCI-67
LCI-66
LCI-65
LCI-64
LCI-61
APA Doyen
LCI-526

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Ground combat at Paramushiro-jima (137,47)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8642 troops, 51 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 309

Defending force 14659 troops, 375 guns, 387 vehicles, Assault Value = 797

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
North China Gsn Brigade
83rd Naval Guard Unit
Kitachishima Fortress
5th JNAF AF Unit
13th JNAF AF Unit /1

Defending units:
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
18th Canadian Brigade
Merrills Marauders Regiment
13th Canadian Brigade
31st Infantry Div /9
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
251st Field Artillery Battalion

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Ground combat at Onnekotan-jima (136,48)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9032 troops, 43 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 328

Defending force 36455 troops, 597 guns, 1060 vehicles, Assault Value = 1268

Japanese ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled

Assaulting units:
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Sasebo 6th SNLF
Yokosuka 6th SNLF
82nd Naval Guard Unit
46th Naval Guard Unit
51st Base Force /1
50th JNAF Coy
7th Base Force
Eastern Army
31st Ind.AA Gun Co
45th JNAF AF Unit /1

Defending units:
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
77th Infantry Division
763rd Tank Battalion
6th Australian Division
670th Tank Destroyer Battalion
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
88th Medium Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
IV Indian Corps /6

For the rest everything remains quiet...the KB is undetected while several surface jap units and a CV are sieging Perth...

More than 600k men in norhern Honshu....

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 2:40:43 AM

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boy howdy those japs sure put up a fight 600,000 sounds scarry

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 3:30:37 AM

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I would say you're there to stay, as he will not be able to re-take Hokkaido...enjoying watching this unfold..

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 7:00:42 AM

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I don't get scared for Hokkaido...i'm scared for my japanese invasion....

Jul 24, 25 1944

Onnekotan fell as scheldued. Now it's time to assault Paramushiro. BBs, Carrier bombers and LBA did a real good job in order to open the gap where my soldiers dove in!

We swept Tokyo for the first time...obtaining a decent result (1-5 kill ratio)
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Morning Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 57
A6M5c Zero x 19
J2M3 Jack x 28
N1K1-J George x 118
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 30
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 15
Ki-84a Frank x 87
Ki-102b Randy x 18

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 76
P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 260

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 3 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 9 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 8 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Ground combat at Onnekotan-jima (136,48)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34678 troops, 597 guns, 1004 vehicles, Assault Value = 1232

Defending force 13447 troops, 63 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 306

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 1848

Japanese adjusted defense: 455

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2965 casualties reported
Squads: 69 destroyed, 123 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 80 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 17 disabled
Guns lost 27 (17 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
301 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)

Assaulting units:
77th Infantry Division
670th Tank Destroyer Battalion
763rd Tank Battalion
6th Australian Division
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
88th Medium Regiment
IV Indian Corps
2/13th Field Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
122nd British AT Gun Regiment

Defending units:
Yokosuka 6th SNLF
Sasebo 6th SNLF
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
82nd Naval Guard Unit
46th Naval Guard Unit
31st Ind.AA Gun Co
Eastern Army
7th Base Force
50th JNAF Coy
51st Base Force /1
45th JNAF AF Unit /1

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Ground combat at Onnekotan-jima (136,48)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 35251 troops, 596 guns, 1060 vehicles, Assault Value = 1196

Defending force 10217 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 125

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 1097

Japanese adjusted defense: 113

Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Onnekotan-jima !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2772 casualties reported
Squads: 86 destroyed, 90 disabled
Non Combat: 60 destroyed, 158 disabled
Engineers: 29 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 37 (31 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
121 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled

Assaulting units:
77th Infantry Division
6th Australian Division
670th Tank Destroyer Battalion
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
763rd Tank Battalion
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
2/11th Field Regiment
88th Medium Regiment
IV Indian Corps
2/13th Field Regiment
122nd British AT Gun Regiment

Defending units:
82nd Naval Guard Unit
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
46th Naval Guard Unit
Eastern Army
Sasebo 6th SNLF
51st Base Force /1
7th Base Force
31st Ind.AA Gun Co
50th JNAF Coy
45th JNAF AF Unit /1

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31st Ind.AA Gun Co Wiped Out at Onnekotan-jima by attrition!!!

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82nd Naval Guard Unit Wiped Out at Onnekotan-jima by attrition!!!

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46th Naval Guard Unit Wiped Out at Onnekotan-jima by attrition!!!

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50th JNAF Coy Wiped Out at Onnekotan-jima by attrition!!!

Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Onnekotan-jima

Japanese Unit(s) Wiped Out at Onnekotan-jima by attrition!!!

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 7:34:23 AM

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Wow. I wonder whether your fighters are able to keep him under replacement rate by themselves now that you've wiped out most of his good production.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 7:55:32 AM

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Wow. I wonder whether your fighters are able to keep him under replacement rate by themselves now that you've wiped out most of his good production.

I haven't. Only Frank production has suffered considerably...George, Tony, Zero and all the other productions are pretty untouched....it's still a long long way to go guys...believe me

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 8:57:42 AM

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Oh, I meant high-speed fighters. Good was too vague... unless they're fast too?

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 9:17:03 AM

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As regards all the key aircraft:

Ki-84 will do 392
Ki-44 will do 376
J2M3 will do 365
N1K1-J will do 363
Ki-100 will do 360
Ki-102b will do 360 (and use two engines to get there)
A6M5 will do 351
Ki-45 will do 340 (also on two engines)
A6M5c will do 336 (!)

So, if it's raw speed the Japanese are after to the exclusion of all else, the answer now is much as it was two years ago - more Tojos.

e: for comparison, P-47D25 will do 435, F4U1-A 417, F4U1-D 425, F6F-5 380, P-51 440 or so and Spitfire VIII 404 (but with about twice the maneuverability of any of these)

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 11:22:33 AM

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Yes, but in fact i don't fear them too much...my greatest fear is the lack of coordination (which, btw, is getting better with my fighters lately) between fighters and bombers.

However...tomorrow we'll start bombing his factories back again and we'll conquer Paramushiro

HU-HA

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 12:45:28 PM

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Ok...an AVD of mine has detected at least 2 japanese fighters near the french Polinesian islands... that could be the KB retourning back to the Marshalls taking a long southern route...

I'll dispatch some subs in those waters tryin to keep track of the enemy CVs...

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 1:22:51 PM

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What have you discovered is the key to getting your P-47s to go in as a coordinated sweep??
AF is size 9...
Air units all assigned to same Air HQ ...
Air HQ in the same hex...

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 1:51:12 PM

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What have you discovered is the key to getting your P-47s to go in as a coordinated sweep??
AF is size 9...
Air units all assigned to same Air HQ ...
Air HQ in the same hex...

At the moment i do get usually one big formation and just a couple of squadrons that come alone...
The point now is to get those sweeps coordinated with the bomber runs...which is what killed me last week

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 1:58:32 PM

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You may be forced to include some fighters on escort, just to be on the safe side, on top of the sweeps. Of course, if those P47s can ever come in before the bombers, you'll have a grand-old time.

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 2:09:23 PM

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You may be forced to include some fighters on escort, just to be on the safe side, on top of the sweeps

+1

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 2:21:18 PM

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Yes, i'm willing to sacrifice some P-38s and some Corsairs.
I've also moved back my bombers starting base to Sapporo, leaving Hakkodate as a only fighter base.
So the P-38s will escort from Sapporo (having longer legs) while Corsairs will escort from Hakkodate.
P-47s will sweep from Hakkodate too.

Finger crossed

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RE: Blood in the skies - 12/19/2011 3:10:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: paullus99

You may be forced to include some fighters on escort, just to be on the safe side, on top of the sweeps. Of course, if those P47s can ever come in before the bombers, you'll have a grand-old time.

No never, escort. LRCAP instead. (if you can). My humble opinion.

< Message edited by crsutton -- 12/19/2011 3:12:43 PM >

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