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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 10:25:48 AM

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Strangely enough the enemies lost more time and ammo attacking a transport convoy that was delivering supplies and a CD Gun regiment at Sadogashima...not a single one survived to tell the tale...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Sadogashima at 114,56, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
BB Fuso
CA Mikuma
CA Kumano
CL Abukuma
DD Ikazuchi
DD Inazuma
DD Usugumo
DD Shikinami
DD Sagiri
DD Akebono
DD Tagonami
DD Hikokaze
DD Takatakaze

Allied Ships
DE Whitman, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
DE Wileman, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
DE Wyman, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
LST 163, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LST 164, Shell hits 15, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST 180, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
LST 199, Shell hits 14, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
240 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 36 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 111 (102 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 41 (36 destroyed, 5 disabled)

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 10:28:23 AM

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...but the time lost by the japs gave Palliser another chance...
His TF was mauled in desperation...but was still close to the action, screened by a curtain of artificial smoke...
Aboard the Gambia he took the decision of his life...
The Supreme Sacrifice...
...the orders were given...
...one more shot for the pride of England..

...and his remaining ships moved over the enemy again....

Night Time Surface Combat, near Sadogashima at 114,56, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Shell hits 1
BB Fuso, Shell hits 4
CA Mikuma
CA Kumano
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 1
DD Ikazuchi
DD Inazuma
DD Usugumo
DD Shikinami
DD Sagiri, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
DD Akebono
DD Tagonami
DD Hikokaze
DD Takatakaze

Allied Ships
CL Gambia, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
CL Ceylon, Shell hits 9, on fire
CL Newfoundland, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Grayson, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Thompson
DD Endicott, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD McCook
DD Frankford, Shell hits 25, heavy fires, heavy damage

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 10:36:04 AM

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Palliser's sacrifice (his body is yet not found) wasn't in vain...
The BBs finally were free to do what they came for...bombarding Sadogashima Airfield...

Night Naval bombardment of Sadogashima at 114,56 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

56 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Hiei
CA Kumano
CL Abukuma
DD Tagonami
DD Akebono
DD Shikinami
DD Usugumo
DD Inazuma
DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 1

Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Manpower hits 1
Fires 21
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8

...........but their ammo stores were almost empty and those waters have prooved to be very damgerous...time was running and the first lights of dawn were already shining on the orizont....

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 10:40:20 AM

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...when the japanese ships turned their route westwards the day was already arrived... 5:00 o'clock in the morning... and right in front of them stood the friend they met the night before...Burke with his DDs...

The american commander placed himself between the japs and their retreat way...and engaged again a duel for life under a stormy sky....

Day Time Surface Combat, near Sadogashima at 114,56, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Shell hits 1
BB Fuso, Shell hits 2
CA Kumano, Shell hits 3
CL Abukuma
DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Inazuma
DD Usugumo
DD Shikinami, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Akebono, Shell hits 1
DD Tagonami, Shell hits 5, heavy fires

Allied Ships
DD Halsey Powell
DD Sigsbee, Shell hits 1
DD Stevens, Shell hits 5, on fire
DD Walker, Shell hits 1
DD Jarvis II, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Monssen II

Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 26,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 22,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 22,000 yards
Range closes to 20,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 6,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
Burke, Arleigh A. crosses the 'T'
BB Fuso engages DD Jarvis II at 6,000 yards
DD Jarvis II engages DD Usugumo at 6,000 yards
CA Kumano engages DD Jarvis II at 6,000 yards
DD Stevens engages DD Usugumo at 6,000 yards
BB Fuso engages DD Sigsbee at 6,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Jarvis II at 6,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Stevens at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
BB Fuso engages DD Jarvis II at 5,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DD Jarvis II at 5,000 yards
DD Walker engages DD Shikinami at 5,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Stevens at 5,000 yards
DD Sigsbee engages DD Akebono at 5,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Stevens at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
BB Fuso engages DD Jarvis II at 9,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DD Jarvis II at 9,000 yards
CA Kumano engages DD Jarvis II at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Stevens at 9,000 yards
DD Tagonami engages DD Sigsbee at 9,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Halsey Powell at 9,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Sigsbee at 9,000 yards
DD Halsey Powell engages DD Inazuma at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
BB Fuso engages DD Monssen II at 8,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DD Jarvis II at 8,000 yards
DD Stevens engages DD Inazuma at 8,000 yards
DD Tagonami engages DD Jarvis II at 8,000 yards
DD Halsey Powell engages DD Akebono at 8,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi sunk by DD Jarvis II at 8,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Jarvis II at 8,000 yards
CA Kumano engages DD Walker at 8,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Stevens at 8,000 yards
DD Tagonami engages DD Sigsbee at 8,000 yards
DD Halsey Powell engages DD Tagonami at 8,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Stevens at 8,000 yards
DD Stevens engages DD Inazuma at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
DD Tagonami engages DD Monssen II at 11,000 yards
DD Tagonami engages DD Jarvis II at 11,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages DD Stevens at 11,000 yards
DD Tagonami engages DD Halsey Powell at 11,000 yards
DD Tagonami engages DD Halsey Powell at 11,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Jarvis II at 11,000 yards
DD Monssen II engages DD Inazuma at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Monssen II at 13,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DD Sigsbee at 13,000 yards
CL Abukuma engages DD Stevens at 13,000 yards
DD Tagonami engages DD Halsey Powell at 13,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Halsey Powell at 13,000 yards
DD Jarvis II engages DD Shikinami at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
BB Fuso engages DD Jarvis II at 15,000 yards
DD Jarvis II engages DD Akebono at 15,000 yards
CA Kumano engages DD Walker at 15,000 yards
DD Tagonami engages DD Stevens at 15,000 yards
DD Sigsbee engages DD Usugumo at 15,000 yards
DD Akebono engages DD Sigsbee at 15,000 yards
DD Stevens engages DD Shikinami at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 18,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages DD Monssen II at 18,000 yards
BB Hiei engages DD Stevens at 18,000 yards
CA Kumano engages DD Halsey Powell at 18,000 yards
DD Stevens engages DD Shikinami at 18,000 yards
DD Tagonami engages DD Halsey Powell at 18,000 yards
DD Sigsbee engages DD Usugumo at 18,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 10:44:37 AM

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Before finally retiring Burke ordered on the radio..."too all the sub hunters...the enemy is bearing westwards...route 275... 19 knots...GET 'EM!"

...

The first ship who got the message was the SS Scamp which the night before had fired a couple of torpedoes (that didn't explode) against one of the japanese DDs that were opening the way for the battleships...

This time, with the enemy divided and scattered in several different TF formations, the brave american sub had better luck....

ASW attack near Toyama at 113,56

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Torpedo hits 2
CA Kumano
DD Usugumo
DD Inazuma
DD Shikinami, on fire

Allied Ships
SS Scamp

SS Scamp launches 6 torpedoes at BB Fuso
Scamp diving deep ....
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 10:45:46 AM

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And then, few miles northwards, the SS Pogy followed the same example and managed to put a couple of fishes in the belly of CL Teshio....

ASW attack near Toyama at 112,56

Japanese Ships
CL Teshio, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Noshiro
CL Agano
DD Yamanakaze
DD Myojinkaze

Allied Ships
SS Pogy

Magazine explodes on CL Teshio
SS Pogy launches 4 torpedoes at CL Teshio
Pogy diving deep ....
DD Yamanakaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Myojinkaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yamanakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamanakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamanakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamanakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 10:47:14 AM

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Few hours later...near Kanazawa...another japanese CL followed her sister thanks to the british sub Tactician

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Sub attack near Kanazawa at 111,56

Japanese Ships
     CL Katori, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
     DD Tachekaze

Allied Ships
     SS Tactician

SS Tactician launches 6 torpedoes at CL Katori
Tactician diving deep ....
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachekaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 10:52:58 AM

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...but it wasn't over...

Despite the bad weather the japanese simply didn't want to give up...now that the navies had ended their mortal dances, it was again the moment of the air forces to tangle...

Early in the morning arrived the american CAP from Hakodate...saluted by the waves and hurrahs from the beaches...

But with them arrived also a wave of japanese Navy planes...

The battles raged for 30 minutes and despite the efforts, despite the heroism shown the americans pilot couldn't overcome completely the great escort the japs have given to their bombers...

The warships that were still lingering near the shores after the night battles were attacked and all of them sunk....

more dead bodies were piling up on the shores of Sadogashima....what a crude show...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sadogashima at 114,56

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 53 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 43
A6M5c Zero x 16
A7M2 Sam x 138
B6N2 Jill x 68
D4Y3 Judy x 43
D4Y4 Judy x 126

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 26
P-38L Lightning x 42
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 13
P-51B Mustang x 23
F4U-1D Corsair x 75

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 6 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 9 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 7 destroyed, 2 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 21 destroyed, 10 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Walker
DD Nizam, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
DD Yarnall, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SC PC-1084, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
DD Witte de With, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
DD Killen, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
SC PC-1082, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SC PC-1083, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
PF Carson City, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x A7M2 Sam sweeping at 14000 feet
9 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
13 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
12 x A7M2 Sam sweeping at 14000 feet
5 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
9 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
37 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
3 x A7M2 Sam sweeping at 14000 feet
4 x A7M2 Sam sweeping at 14000 feet
5 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
15 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
8 x A7M2 Sam sweeping at 14000 feet
8 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
19 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
12 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
1 x A7M2 Sam sweeping at 14000 feet
7 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
6 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
6 x A7M2 Sam sweeping at 14000 feet
8 x A7M2 Sam sweeping at 14000 feet
12 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 14000 feet
1 x A6M5c Zero sweeping at 10000 feet *
6 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
16 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.75 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire VIII (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
VF-1 with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
VC(F)-65 with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
VC(F)-86 with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
No.79 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire VIII (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
VF-18 with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 15 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
VF-23 with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
VF-50 with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
No.889 Sqn FAA with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 13 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
VC(F)-85 with F4U-1D Corsair (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
VC(F)-97 with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
VRF-10F with F4U-1D Corsair (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
VMF-121 with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
No.20 Sqn RNZAF with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
No.21 Sqn RNZAF with F4U-1D Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
312th BG/387th BS with P-51B Mustang (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
1st ACG/5th FS (C) with P-51B Mustang (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Raid is overhead
51st FG/16th FS with P-38L Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
343rd FG/18th FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 42000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
33rd FG/59th FS with P-51B Mustang (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Nizam
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Witte de With
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring PF Carson City
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Yarnall
Magazine explodes on DD Yarnall
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Killen
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring SC PC-1084

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 10:55:44 AM

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...when the first wave was gone...before the defenders could re-organize and breath again.... arrived the dreaded franks...

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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 124 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 54

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 20
P-38L Lightning x 31
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 9
P-51B Mustang x 21
F4U-1D Corsair x 66

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-51B Mustang: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed

............and after the franks

....another bombing raid...

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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 18
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 173
Ki-100-I Tony x 94

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 2
F4U-1D Corsair x 11
P-38L Lightning x 17
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 4
P-51B Mustang x 11
F4U-1D Corsair x 46

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 4 destroyed, 7 damaged
Ki-100-I Tony: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SOC-1 Seagull: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 18
Port hits 2

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 10:57:41 AM

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...but there was no rest for the Angels of Sadogashima....

The KI-83s followed....and this time the terrible fatigue and the disorganization that followed the previous fights couldn't be won by the simple strenght of will...

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Morning Air attack on Sadogashima , at 114,56

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 127 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 28

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 2
F4U-1D Corsair x 6
P-38L Lightning x 10
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 3
P-51B Mustang x 7
F4U-1D Corsair x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
P-38L Lightning: 3 destroyed
P-51B Mustang: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 destroyed

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 11:09:08 AM

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...finally...in the afternoon...the enemy made his last attack...another wave of navy bombers...this time Burke's heroes were the target.... Our aircrews did wonders...but couldn't prevent 2 destroyers to be attacked and sunk....

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sadogashima at 114,56

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 139 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 46 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 7
A7M2 Sam x 78
B6N2 Jill x 21
D4Y4 Judy x 65

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 1
F4U-1D Corsair x 23
P-38L Lightning x 34
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 13
P-51B Mustang x 23
F4U-1D Corsair x 58

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5c Zero: 1 destroyed
A7M2 Sam: 17 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 11 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Halsey Powell
DD Stevens, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
DD Anthony
DD Sigsbee
DD Jarvis II, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 11:10:08 AM

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So two days of harsh fightings both on the seas and in the skies...

Here's the intel screen....

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 11:11:10 AM

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...losses have been hard on both sides...but Sadogashima is still open and this rapresents a victory for us imho....

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 11:25:59 AM

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DD did well against IJN ...except at night.After all,boys did very well

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 11:29:41 AM

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Losing all of those BBs won't please the Emperor.

It would be interesting to see a shot or list of the number of major combat ships the Allies have left. I know you lost a lot early, but many of the US ones would have been replaced by new shiny CAs and CLs. How many of each of these things do you have left to play with?

The scale and frequency of these battles is making me start to question what's going to be left to fight in a few months for each side.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 11:31:47 AM

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Yup, i'm very sorry for the loss of 4 Fijii Class CLs...those were supposed to be very good light cruisers, with modern guns and torpedoes...and with very experienced crews...i hoped in something more having fought at very close range but yet i cannot complain

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 11:33:24 AM

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Go Tin Cans!! BTW, how is your DD supply? I know that have many jobs to do and you get plenty but they have been busy. Do you still have enough to go around?

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 11:54:39 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: obvert

Losing all of those BBs won't please the Emperor.

It would be interesting to see a shot or list of the number of major combat ships the Allies have left. I know you lost a lot early, but many of the US ones would have been replaced by new shiny CAs and CLs. How many of each of these things do you have left to play with?

The scale and frequency of these battles is making me start to question what's going to be left to fight in a few months for each side.

I've lost 144 DDs so far...

...the worst losses are on the cruisers side...

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 11:56:23 AM

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not to talk about the BBs....

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 12:06:49 PM

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holy crap, all 8 BB at PH sunk? How many attacks did rader fly against PH back then? Have too look at your first pages me thinks...

your ship losses look horrible to be honest

and even more so is it amazing to me that you nevertheless were able to land on Japan. Not having followed your AAR until the later stages I guess I have to go through your 211 pages of AAR.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 12:10:48 PM

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holy crap, all 8 BB at PH sunk? How many attacks did rader fly against PH back then? Have too look at your first pages me thinks...

your ship losses look horrible to be honest and even more so is it amazing to me that you nevertheless were able to land on Japan. Not having followed your AAR until the later stages I guess I have to go through your 211 pages of AAR.

Well, let's say i went through 2 very bad years

KB bombed PH for 6 days in a row...nothing was left when she sailed away...
Then yes, i tried to fight everywhere i could...but finally in 1943 the tide started to turn and we finally were able to win a couple of naval battles (At Miri, at Rekata Bay at Tulagi)..and the tables are now more or less even me thinks...

Yup, if you wanna see what really means being slapped for 18 months take a look at the first pages

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 12:14:16 PM

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hats off to you Sir, I think there are not that many people around sticking to the game suffering those losses AND still managing to land where you are now.

Hats off to rader as well for inflicting those losses...

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 12:17:26 PM

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hats off to you Sir, I think there are not that many people around sticking to the game suffering those losses AND still managing to land where you are now. Hats off to rader as well for inflicting those losses...
-castor troy

Yes! +1 to you both!

Most of the US CAs and CLs lost early on must have been replaced by new ones though, right? What is left in the arsenal now?

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 12:23:51 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

holy crap, all 8 BB at PH sunk? How many attacks did rader fly against PH back then? Have too look at your first pages me thinks...

your ship losses look horrible to be honest and even more so is it amazing to me that you nevertheless were able to land on Japan. Not having followed your AAR until the later stages I guess I have to go through your 211 pages of AAR.

Well, let's say i went through 2 very bad years
KB bombed PH for 6 days in a row...nothing was left when she sailed away...
Then yes, i tried to fight everywhere i could...but finally in 1943 the tide started to turn and we finally were able to win a couple of naval battles (At Miri, at Rekata Bay at Tulagi)..and the tables are now more or less even me thinks...

Yup, if you wanna see what really means being slapped for 18 months take a look at the first pages

Staying for extra days of attack on Pearl seems to be a pretty standard tact for Japanese players. Is there any merit to sortying (sp?) everything from Pearl in a last ditch effort to get a night intercept on the KB while scattering every ship in port to the four winds? I have had limited success with that tactic against the AI. Seems like about one in every four attempts meets with sufficient success to force the KB to limp home with carriers full of shell holes.

After all, if you're going to lose every ship in port anyway, why not go down fighting? And as for scattering, yes you will lose ships to the subs just as in the evacuation from Manila and the KB, if undamaged by the night action, will sink many of the the ships running, but at least some will have a chance to get away.

I realize it's far too late for your game, but am just wondering what all the experienced PBEMers here do when faced with a protracted Pearl Harbor strike.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 12:24:05 PM

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...the worst losses are on the cruisers side...

as to the loss of surface combat ships I can only say lately you have put them in the right places to extract a price for their loss. Nelson put it better, "...no captain can do very wrong if he places his ship alongside that of the enemy"

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 12:26:18 PM

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Thx for the compliments guys

Here are the today air losses...we lost 20 pilots today but Rader's must have lost at least 200 of them...

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 12:39:45 PM

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I realize it's far too late for your game, but am just wondering what all the experienced PBEMers here do when faced with a protracted Pearl Harbor strike.

Propose a DaBabes rematch and watch the Japanese player bang his head against an AAA wall.

At least this would be my choice.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 12:53:19 PM

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(edited, since I noticed Greyjoy asked us to stop talking about it)

I'll just leave here that I think the problem is the HRs make functional (mechanics) rather than substantive (assets) changes.

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RE: Angels over Sadogashima - 1/31/2012 12:54:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

holy crap, all 8 BB at PH sunk? How many attacks did rader fly against PH back then? Have too look at your first pages me thinks...

your ship losses look horrible to be honest and even more so is it amazing to me that you nevertheless were able to land on Japan. Not having followed your AAR until the later stages I guess I have to go through your 211 pages of AAR.

Well, let's say i went through 2 very bad years
KB bombed PH for 6 days in a row...nothing was left when she sailed away...
Then yes, i tried to fight everywhere i could...but finally in 1943 the tide started to turn and we finally were able to win a couple of naval battles (At Miri, at Rekata Bay at Tulagi)..and the tables are now more or less even me thinks...

Yup, if you wanna see what really means being slapped for 18 months take a look at the first pages

Staying for extra days of attack on Pearl seems to be a pretty standard tact for Japanese players. Is there any merit to sortying (sp?) everything from Pearl in a last ditch effort to get a night intercept on the KB while scattering every ship in port to the four winds? I have had limited success with that tactic against the AI. Seems like about one in every four attempts meets with sufficient success to force the KB to limp home with carriers full of shell holes.

After all, if you're going to lose every ship in port anyway, why not go down fighting? And as for scattering, yes you will lose ships to the subs just as in the evacuation from Manila and the KB, if undamaged by the night action, will sink many of the the ships running, but at least some will have a chance to get away.

I realize it's far too late for your game, but am just wondering what all the experienced PBEMers here do when faced with a protracted Pearl Harbor strike.

Jap flattops are big targets and they are nice targets for Dds on night attack..... I'll take the trade any day (or maybe that should be any night)

Roger (evil grin)

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