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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/3/2011 10:51:49 PM   
GreyJoy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

An IJ DD at the Panama Canal Zone portal entrance? Man, that stinks to me. He's taking advantage of the fact that he can calculate the exact hex of entry, knowing that you (as a relatively new player) won't expect this. To me it's akin to the land march across the Owen Stanleys to recpature Port Moresby. Okay, the game allows it, but it stinks to do it, especially against a newcomer.




No CR, i don't agree with you here. The move is a bold one imho. It wasn't exactly on the exit point...close but not there...and he managed to get there with a good plan obviously....moving AOs where i could not spot him...
These moves help me to keep my focus and my attention high...i can never relax, not even in my backyard! and that's a good thing imho

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/3/2011 10:59:38 PM   
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What combat ships do you have at Pearl and/or US West Coast? Send them out, find the AO and sink it!

< Message edited by House Stark -- 10/3/2011 11:00:04 PM >

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/3/2011 11:21:32 PM   
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Night Time Surface Combat, near San Diego at 220,118, Range 4,000 Yards


Did you strip the West Coast of all of its Search planes? If so, Shame on You. Raids on the West Coast are s.o.p. for all of the aggressive Japanese players. Didn't you already find the KB lurking around the North Pacific some time back? That should have warned you.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/3/2011 11:27:19 PM   
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220,118 is a little bit south of Panama...none of my search planes can get there...

and i do have catalinas and hudsons on WC, along with Catalinas at PH and Midway...he probably moved right in the black spot between WC and PH to get there...don't think i made any mistake there...i just should have waited for some escort for those precious transports..

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/3/2011 11:31:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

220,118 is a little bit south of Panama...none of my search planes can get there...

and i do have catalinas and hudsons on WC, along with Catalinas at PH and Midway...he probably moved right in the black spot between WC and PH to get there...don't think i made any mistake there...i just should have waited for some escort for those precious transports..


If you send your ships to San Diego first, instead of out into the Pacific directly, he can't get at them without running into your Air Search/Naval Attack in San Diego, LA and the rest of Southern California. Spend a few extra days and save some ships. It sounds like a good idea to me.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/3/2011 11:40:28 PM   
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yes, for sure. Usually i do that...but i wanted those APAs asap...but i learnt another lesson today! never relax!


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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/4/2011 12:28:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wirraway_Ace


quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I just returned from three nights camping in the frigid mountains and find that GreyJoy is in some South Seas thatched hut (probably wearing a thong to show off his "naturally hairy" anatomy). I thought he just returned from a three-week vacation about three weeks ago? What is this?

There is only one likely answer to this conundrum of multiple three week vacations nearly back-to-back....He is European. And here I thought his misspellings were the product of poor public education in either Queensland or Texas.

ahahahah...you imply that the european mispell like the texans and the australian?


Dont worry Cobber, mate, Sport,

Most Americans wouldnt know where Zanzibar was, even adding Africa throws them a bit!

Sorry about the Tsunami line,

Think PIRATES!!


< Message edited by JeffK -- 10/4/2011 12:30:01 AM >


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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/4/2011 1:12:03 AM   
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sep 10, 11 1943

Another Turkey shot...

I was right...Rader was setting a trap for our BBs....we ate the bait but then we broke it and swallowed it along with the fisherman

Seriously now.... 50 planes shot down for me....360 for Rader over Tulagi...BB Indiana ate a torp but only 7 flt major damage...she can still make 24 knots...i'm not happy but it could go worse...the KB moved close to Shortland and only my good star made her being under severe storms for 2 days in a row...not launching a single a/c

Our bombardments at Russell that was supposed to be empty was a great one...caught more than 80 planes on the ground and closed his most important AF...the nearest to Tulagi...

Now it's very late...but tomorrow i'll make a comprehensive update

Lost a sub in exchange of a E class....and got that damned DD near Panama with my CVs....

see u tomorrow...

and yes Jeff, Zanzibar is the isle of Pirates....and usually pirates are hairy, right? ...at least that's how i dream of them

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/4/2011 1:42:12 AM   
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and got that damned DD near Panama with my CVs

It's late 43, lots of the stuff coming out of that worm hole can eat a DD for lunch. Seems a big logistic stretch for little gain. Don't think you will see that again and he might not be short on DD's but he can't have that many extras

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/4/2011 2:16:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

quote:

and got that damned DD near Panama with my CVs

It's late 43, lots of the stuff coming out of that worm hole can eat a DD for lunch. Seems a big logistic stretch for little gain. Don't think you will see that again and he might not be short on DD's but he can't have that many extras


Of course, it could have been the scout for a larger force...

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/4/2011 4:56:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

An IJ DD at the Panama Canal Zone portal entrance? Man, that stinks to me. He's taking advantage of the fact that he can calculate the exact hex of entry, knowing that you (as a relatively new player) won't expect this. To me it's akin to the land march across the Owen Stanleys to recpature Port Moresby. Okay, the game allows it, but it stinks to do it, especially against a newcomer.


While not rejecting the underlying sentiment, there is no fixed entry hex from Panama (and most(all?) of other off-map bases). It depends on your destination. So you can enter on any hex along a wide area if you want to bother.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/4/2011 5:01:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: erstad

quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

An IJ DD at the Panama Canal Zone portal entrance? Man, that stinks to me. He's taking advantage of the fact that he can calculate the exact hex of entry, knowing that you (as a relatively new player) won't expect this. To me it's akin to the land march across the Owen Stanleys to recpature Port Moresby. Okay, the game allows it, but it stinks to do it, especially against a newcomer.


While not rejecting the underlying sentiment, there is no fixed entry hex from Panama (and most(all?) of other off-map bases). It depends on your destination. So you can enter on any hex along a wide area if you want to bother.



erstad is quite correct. TFs enter the map from any off map base at the same latitude as the on map destination base.

Alfred

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/4/2011 5:23:01 AM   
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Which begs the question how did the DD find the APA? Could've been luck, could've been a Glen. Could've been something worse than a Glen. Did you have a DL on that APA the turn of or before the DD attack?

Note for the record the fine Texas education system which teaches her students that "could've" is a contraction of "could have" rather than the beastly phonetic "could of" one sees on this here Internet thingy.


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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/4/2011 5:43:06 AM   
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As a vast percentage of shipping out of the Canal Zone is headed to Pearl it would be a good bet to sit opposite the channel on the map.

Worth a DD, just didn't pay off enough. (Imagine the cry if a CV was taken out!)

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/4/2011 6:52:10 AM   
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So Sep 10, 11 1943

Rader moved his KB 1 hex east of Shortland by the night of 10th... at the same time, as we sniffed, he moved his fighter force on Russell, Thousands and Auki, along with Munda and Rekata. His LB Torpedo Bombers were positioned at Shortland and Torokina...nearly 1200 LBA plus the KB in the area....not bad.
Lucky our 6th sense paid off and the bombardment of Russell closed the AF there, while 4 DDs bombed Auki and damaged the strip enough to stop his fighters from operating for the daylight of the 10th.
My BBs moved back to Tulagi, where a strong CAP was ordered.
Our Cats and Beauforts from Tassafaronga tried to interdict enemy BBs at Shortland...but with no luck, despite the clear moonlight (probably also due to the weather which wasn't excellent).
However when the sun rose, the KB was behind a kind of a hurricane and never lunched, while his torpedo bombers, escorted by hordes of fighters, for 2 days in a row attacked my BBs at Tulagi....the battles were fierce and, strange to be said, only the smallest raid managed to get through my CRACK-CAP Umbrella...resulting in a Nell putting a fish into BB Massachusset...7 flt damage...not bad...few days at the drydock...24 knots and she can easily limp back...
We downed something like 250 enemy planes, losing 25 during these fights...
Then my 4Es arrived in masse to Russell, to finish what wasn't done by the BBs the previous nights...another success cause he had no CAP there (all his fighters were set on escort duties).

Then a CVTF of mine which was moving from SF to PH intercepted and sunk with 4 1000lb bombs the bloody bastard DD that sunk the APA yesterday near Panama...

At the same time in India he sent 300 fighters to sweep my advancing Eastern Army, finding no opposition, followed by 100 Helens escorted by 80 Tojos to bomb it from 32k feet...this time i have the american 90mm AA guns and we can shoot back even if with not much result...but his bombings are absolutely not a factor from that height...we're still advancing...and i'm not LRCAPping...will rely on the AA for the moment, while 400 fighters will guard Karachi against any attempt of destroying our supply depots (like he did last time we tried to advance towards Multan).





AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 10, 43
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Night Air attack on TF, near Shortlands at 110,131

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes


Allied aircraft
PBY-5 Catalina x 7


Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5 Catalina: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Kirishima



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x PBY-5 Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo



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Night Air attack on TF, near Shortlands at 110,131

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
Beaufort VIII x 8


Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort VIII: 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Furutaka



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Beaufort VIII launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo



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Night Naval bombardment of Russell Islands at 113,136 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 16 damaged
E13A1 Jake: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 50 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 11 damaged
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M3a Zero: 24 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 47 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

56 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Indiana
BB Washington
CA Australia
CA Quincy
CL Santa Fe, Shell hits 1
CL Cleveland
CL Richmond

Japanese ground losses:
371 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled



Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 44
Port hits 11
Port fuel hits 1
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Night Naval bombardment of Auki at 115,136

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 12 damaged
N1K1-J George: 7 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Lamson
DD Drayton
DD Jenkins
DD Chevalier

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled



Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 22
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 1

DD Lamson firing at Auki
DD Drayton firing at Auki
DD Jenkins firing at Auki
DD Chevalier firing at 14th Garrison Unit


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 103 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
A6M3a Zero x 22
G3M2 Nell x 9



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 4
Spitfire Vc Trop x 6
Hurricane XIIb x 6
P-39N1 Airacobra x 10
P-40K Warhawk x 7
P-40N1 Warhawk x 10
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 18
F4U-1 Corsair x 14
F6F-3 Hellcat x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 2 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 11 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 8
A6M3a Zero x 23
N1K1-J George x 71
P1Y1 Frances x 9



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 4
Spitfire Vc Trop x 6
Hurricane XIIb x 4
P-39N1 Airacobra x 6
P-40K Warhawk x 6
P-40N1 Warhawk x 7
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 15
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
F6F-3 Hellcat x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 6 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 2 destroyed
Spitfire Vc Trop: 4 destroyed
P-39N1 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40N1 Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
APD Fox
APD John D. Edwards



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Morning Air attack on Russell Islands , at 113,136

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 18



Allied aircraft
Boomerang C-12 x 15
B-24D Liberator x 15
B-24D1 Liberator x 153


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 19 destroyed on ground
A6M3a Zero: 6 destroyed on ground
E13A1 Jake: 8 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 16 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Boomerang C-12: 7 destroyed
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Airbase hits 30
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 213


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tulagi at 114,137

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 47 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 7
A6M3a Zero x 7
G3M2 Nell x 9



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 4
Hurricane XIIb x 5
P-38G Lightning x 10
P-38H Lightning x 8
P-39N1 Airacobra x 7
P-40K Warhawk x 21
P-40N1 Warhawk x 7
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14
F4U-1 Corsair x 22
F6F-3 Hellcat x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 3 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
BB Massachusetts, Torpedo hits 1
BB North Carolina



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tulagi at 114,137

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 113 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 7
N1K1-J George x 41
P1Y1 Frances x 9



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 4
Hurricane XIIb x 5
P-38G Lightning x 10
P-38H Lightning x 8
P-39N1 Airacobra x 3
P-40K Warhawk x 18
P-40N1 Warhawk x 5
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 19
F6F-3 Hellcat x 23


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 19 destroyed
P1Y1 Frances: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 92 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9
N1K1-J George x 44



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 2
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
Hurricane XIIb x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 1
P-40N1 Warhawk x 5
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 5


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
N1K1-J George: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40N1 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Lamson
DD Jenkins


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 99 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 23



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 1
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
Hurricane XIIb x 4
P-40N1 Warhawk x 2
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 10
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
F6F-3 Hellcat x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 14 destroyed

No Allied losses


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sep 11, 43

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Night Air attack on TF, near Shortlands at 110,131

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes


Allied aircraft
PBY-5 Catalina x 10


Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5 Catalina: 10 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryuho
CVL Ryujo



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x PBY-5 Catalina launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo



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Night Air attack on TF, near Shortlands at 110,131

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes


Allied aircraft
Beaufort VIII x 11


Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort VIII: 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVE Kaiyo
CVL Shoho
CV Junyo



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Beaufort VIII launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tulagi at 114,137

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 115 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 1
A6M3 Zero x 44
A6M3a Zero x 10
D3A1 Val x 3
N1K1-J George x 228
P1Y1 Frances x 13
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 42
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 85
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 76
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 104
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 24



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 4
Hurricane XIIb x 6
P-38G Lightning x 9
P-38H Lightning x 7
P-39N1 Airacobra x 8
P-40K Warhawk x 20
P-40N1 Warhawk x 6
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 15
F4U-1 Corsair x 21
F6F-3 Hellcat x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
P1Y1 Frances: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
P1Y1 Frances: 2 destroyed by flak
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 114 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 56 minutes

Japanese aircraft
H6K4 Mavis x 6



Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
F6F-3 Hellcat x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
H6K4 Mavis: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses



CAP engaged:
VF-35 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
VMF-111 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
VMF-213 with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes

Banzai! - Morita C. in a H6K4 Mavis is willing to die for the Emperor

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 106 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 6



Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 5
F6F-3 Hellcat x 6


Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
APD Fox



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Lahaina at 206,105

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 66 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 36
SBD-5 Dauntless x 29


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Niizuki, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage



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Afternoon Air attack on 19th Indian Division, at 44,7 , near Hyderabad (Sindh)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *



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Afternoon Air attack on 217th Coast AA Regiment, at 44,7 , near Hyderabad (Sindh)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 42



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
42 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tulagi at 114,137

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 117 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 1
D3A1 Val x 2
N1K1-J George x 22
P1Y1 Frances x 9



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 4
Hurricane XIIb x 5
P-38G Lightning x 9
P-38H Lightning x 7
P-39N1 Airacobra x 7
P-40K Warhawk x 20
P-40N1 Warhawk x 6
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 15
F4U-1 Corsair x 21
F6F-3 Hellcat x 25


Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed
P1Y1 Frances: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
P1Y1 Frances: 2 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Richmond
BB Indiana



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
Hurricane XIIb x 3
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 6
F4U-1 Corsair x 9
F6F-3 Hellcat x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 114,138

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 110 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 54 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y3 Judy x 12
H6K4 Mavis x 3



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Spitfire Vc Trop x 1
Hurricane XIIb x 1
P-39N1 Airacobra x 7
P-40K Warhawk x 5
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 9
F4U-1 Corsair x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 8


Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y3 Judy: 9 destroyed
H6K4 Mavis: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses



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Afternoon Air attack on 507th Coast AA Regiment, at 44,7 , near Hyderabad (Sindh)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 72
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 67



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 12 damaged


Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Lahaina at 206,105

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 36
SBD-5 Dauntless x 28


Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Niizuki, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk


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Afternoon Air attack on 14th Army, at 44,7 , near Hyderabad (Sindh)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *



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Afternoon Air attack on 14th Army, at 44,7 , near Hyderabad (Sindh)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36



No Japanese losses



Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *



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Sub attack near Rangoon at 49,53

Japanese Ships
E Iki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
E Fukue

Allied Ships
SS Hake, hits 1






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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/4/2011 8:15:08 AM   
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Sep 12, 13 1943

Cribtop...here's the answer to your question.... a damned CVE is operating in the area .... Think it's the Hosho...today japanese Kates attacked with bombs another APA 13 hexes east of Christmas...the APA was escorted by an SC...not enough ...the precious ship sunk after eating several 250kg bombs....

Made a mistake today....forgot to set the correct range for a Spit and a P-40Ks squadron...result is that our 4Es got escorted over Russell and we found a damned heavy CAP there...lost 25 fighters and 20 Liberators for only 40 enemy torched on the ground and 20 in the air...

Rader moved back his KB and BBs at Rabaul...while our BBs bombed Auki on their way back to Ndeni...

Our PTs were sent out towards Thousands and Russell and managed to sink a couple of PBs that were meant to resupply Thousands... lost only 2 PTs...not bad

Again hordes of fighters swept our Eastern Army, followed by his bombers...again no sensible result for him

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Night Naval bombardment of Auki at 115,136

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 122 damaged
N1K1-J George: 10 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 49 damaged
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
BB Indiana
BB Washington
CA Australia
CA Quincy
CL Santa Fe
CL Cleveland
CL Richmond
DD Meredith
DD Saufley
DD Bache
DD Aulick
DD Abbot

Japanese ground losses:
317 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 23 destroyed, 24 disabled



Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 64
Port hits 15
Port supply hits 2

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Morning Air attack on 14th Army, at 45,7 , near Hyderabad (Sindh)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 33
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 72



No Japanese losses



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Morning Air attack on 14th Army, at 45,7 , near Hyderabad (Sindh)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 9
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 72



No Japanese losses




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Morning Air attack on TF, near Christmas Island at 196,141

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 16



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
APA Neville, Bomb hits 2, on fire
SC-1068




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Afternoon Air attack on 14th Army, at 45,7 , near Hyderabad (Sindh)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 72



No Japanese losses




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Afternoon Air attack on 511th Coast AA Regiment, at 45,7 , near Hyderabad (Sindh)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 78



No Japanese losses



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Afternoon Air attack on 14th Army, at 45,7 , near Hyderabad (Sindh)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 72



No Japanese losses



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Afternoon Air attack on 26th Indian Division, at 45,7 , near Hyderabad (Sindh)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 71
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 46



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 6 damaged



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Afternoon Air attack on 507th Coast AA Regiment, at 45,7 , near Hyderabad (Sindh)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 36
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged



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Night Time Surface Combat, near Thousand Ships Bay at 114,136, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Hakkaisan Maru, Shell hits 7
PB Hokutai Maru
PB Hirota Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
PB Ikuta Maru
PB Kasyu Maru
PB Kensin Maru, Shell hits 2
PB Kogane Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Konsan Maru
PB Sinko Maru, Shell hits 4
PB Senyo Maru
PB Sensan Maru

Allied Ships
PT-245
PT-253
PT-285
PT-298
PT-338
PT-352




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Day Time Surface Combat, near Russell Islands at 113,136, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Hakkaisan Maru
PB Hokutai Maru
PB Ikuta Maru
PB Kasyu Maru
PB Kensin Maru
PB Kogane Maru, heavy damage
PB Konsan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Sinko Maru
PB Senyo Maru
PB Sensan Maru

Allied Ships
PT-105, Shell hits 1
PT-227
PT-351
PT-374, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

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Morning Air attack on Russell Islands , at 113,136

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1 Rex x 3
N1K1-J George x 59
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 48
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 36
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 29
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 23



Allied aircraft
Boomerang C-12 x 7
Spitfire Vc Trop x 10
B-24D Liberator x 15
B-24D1 Liberator x 145
P-40K Warhawk x 13


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 11 damaged
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed, 21 damaged
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 23 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 5 destroyed on ground
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed on ground
E13A1 Jake: 6 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Boomerang C-12: 2 destroyed
Spitfire Vc Trop: 4 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 16 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 5 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 71




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Morning Air attack on TF, near Christmas Island at 189,141

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 15



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
APA Neville, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
SC-1068, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk






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16 B5Ns? Thats the Hosho, it carries only 6 torpedoes and 20 aircraft(some were doing search) or 18 aircraft after first upgrade.

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ORIGINAL: Erkki

16 B5Ns? Thats the Hosho, it carries only 6 torpedoes and 20 aircraft(some were doing search) or 18 aircraft after first upgrade.



I'll chase down the bastard!...unfortunately she's pretty far away from my CVs...but maybe i can manage to set a trap for her...let's see...

I think this moved along with an AO and the DD we just sunk...moved north of Midway, then on the black-hole between PH and SF, along the map border and now springs up east of Christmas...

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The good thing is if it's the Hosho, which seems very possible, she is quite slow. You should be able to track her down. He obviously doesn't mind losing her much if he sent her that far out.

On another note, how can he possibly lose this many airframes and pilots continually? It's astounding.

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He had time to rebreath...and to refill his squadrons of pilots and planes...he has so many of them in production...

However we were lucky....if the KB had lunched...now we would have been short of 4 BBs... my CAP didn't do as good as i hoped...or better...it did well but the i had nearly 500 fighters between Lunga, Tulagi and Tassa and only less than 100 partecipated in the air battles...and no, i never went overe the stacking limits (both in terms of groups and planes) and have 2 Air HQs (with good leaders) and something like 20 radars there...probably the fact that i kept only 30%CAP (in order to avoid too much fatigue and considering that we play a 2-days-turn) has deminished the numbers of active fighting fighters...

Just imagine what will happen when we'll land at Thousands...how many planes will he send?!

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never lunched

Oh, so the KB should go to war hungry? I'm sure they ate lunch. Who wants to destroy your BB's on an empty stomach?

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never lunched

Oh, so the KB should go to war hungry? I'm sure they ate lunch. Who wants to destroy your BB's on an empty stomach?


Yes, Rader told me he ordered to stop providing nagiris, shushis, sashimis and makis 3 days before the attack in order to make his KB pilots hungry...he said he saw that on Discovery Channell during a documentary about the dogs-fighting pits

I always mismatch hungry with hangry and lunch with launch

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The Massachusetts' 7 flotation damage is perfect for an ARD--no need for the long round-trip to Pearl. Have you managed to get one in theater yet?

And good luck hosing the Hosho.

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RE: The Stone and the Waves - 10/4/2011 10:03:51 AM   
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The Massachusetts' 7 flotation damage is perfect for an ARD--no need for the long round-trip to Pearl. Have you managed to get one in theater yet?

And good luck hosing the Hosho.

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Yup, the ARD is already taking care of the South Dakota...which sould be operative again in 30 days...


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16 B5Ns? Thats the Hosho, it carries only 6 torpedoes and 20 aircraft(some were doing search) or 18 aircraft after first upgrade.



I'll chase down the bastard!...unfortunately she's pretty far away from my CVs...but maybe i can manage to set a trap for her...let's see...

I think this moved along with an AO and the DD we just sunk...moved north of Midway, then on the black-hole between PH and SF, along the map border and now springs up east of Christmas...


Hosho is a slow 25/15 knot CVE with endurance of 8700. She probably needs to refuel at least once before reaching home... She probably has a BB with her and supporting AOs.

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