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- 12/27/2000 2:33:00 AM   
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Last night I never got the error message at all!!!??? Wonder what the giggie is? ------------------ Mike Amos Meine Ehre Heisst Treue

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- 12/28/2000 10:18:00 AM   
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I am getting the same error message. I am letting Win manage the mem so that may be a solution or the problem. It seems to happen during campaign play. I have a Dell P3 500, 256RAM and 3.3 Gig available. ------------------ "The most important element in war is man. And there are no tougher men than my China Marines." Major Gen. Archer 'Archy' Vandegrift, 1st Marine Division

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- 1/3/2001 7:11:00 AM   
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When I had the error message, Cacheman reported I had 56MB free RAM and 82MB free of my 100MB fixed swap file (with SPWAW still running). Weird. I don't think it actually affects VCR recording, so maybe you could just remove the message. [This message has been edited by Kharan (edited January 02, 2001).]

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- 1/3/2001 10:15:00 AM   
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Happy New Year from deep down south in NZ folks! Regarding the crash to desktop problem it seems to happen when system resources are low. If I do a clean boot I can get thru 5 or 6 turns b4 it repeats itself. Once when I loaded SPWAW up it displayed the msg in the game menu. That was after not having booted for a while so that might be the problem... To all the SPWAW boffins out there are you working on this problem? It has only happened in version 4.5 and considering you didn't add that much to this version I'm left wondering what on earth is using the system resources so much! And another thing, apart from the one time it crashed from the game menu it always does this during the AIs turn. Always! So as you can imagine I always save at the end of my turn now 'cos I hate repeating myself! In any case I hope my observations will help in your efforts to squash this nasty bug. Happy troubleshooting folks! ------------------ Anzac "Lest We Forget"

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- 1/3/2001 11:11:00 AM   
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I got the message, too, when I started the Tulagi campaign. I stopped and went to the Tutorial scenario and go tthe message again. I exited and entered the program again and started a new campaign (the US-USSR, whatever that is called, slipped my memory) and haven't seen the problem since. Don't know as much about computers as most of ya'll. I would simply like to know: 1. Is it okay to continue playing if you see the message? 2. Is there a simple fix that will not affect other programs? 3. Will this be patched? I'm running a 433Celeron with about 1.5GB free on my hard drive and 96MB RAM.

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- 1/4/2001 3:09:00 AM   
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A friend was playing secure PBEM and had the error message when he opened the turn AND when he pressed the VCR button. It was only the second turn and the replay didn't have anything in it so it can't be said if the error message would have prevented the replay being shown. Rec file was only a few hundred KB's. He restarted SPWAW and the turn again, this time no error message. When I had the error message, it was shown every turn. When I restarted SPWAW without closing any other windows, no errors. So it's some kind of memory allocation thing at the start of SPWAW which affects every game you try until quitting.

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- 1/5/2001 9:30:00 AM   
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I don't think we ever got a good answer to this "unable to allocate memory for VCR recording" problem. Several questions come up. 1. Is this something we can fix ourselves without affecting something else? 2. If not, will it be patched? 3. If we get the msg, can we continue playing the scenario without other problems.

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- 1/5/2001 11:26:00 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Arralen: [B]Windows uses swap file which it makes to it's own purposes and shares it to other applications. Correct. File is "Win386.swp" Size of the file is usually 20megs, Wrong. With default settings, Windows sets the file size dynamically. It starts with around 20Mb, but may grow as big as RAM available. There are unconfirmed reports that Win9x does not use any SwapFile-space that exceeds the available RAM, but I'm not shure about this. so if it's full you'll get error like above Melvin has. Most likely wrong - Win would enlarge the file size, that's all, and with 64 MB RAM and therefore 64MB Swapfile you should be able to store a 30MB vcr file, shouldn't you ? Windows creates the swapfile if your win is configured as a server. If you don't create swapfile, windows uses whole disk to it. Wrong. Win creates swapfile by default, even on a 512MB machine. When set to "server" Win handles file transfers, caching etc. different, what is said to push performance. I'm getting this error myself, but I have 101MB swapfile (free), 128MB RAM (73MB free w/o SPWAW), 273MB free "TEMP" disc space, 45MB disk on the drive with SPWAW and only 3MB on C: So question is, where does SPWAW put this file? And may this error be cause by a software-diskcache (vcache with Win9x) that is smaller than the vcr-file may be ? (Mine is set to 16MB fix, but on most Win-machines run with standard settings which do not restrict the cache size, so it may use all available RAM ) I'll look further into this and keep you informed 'bout what I can find out ********************* Hi Arralen: How do you adjust the standard settings? I have 256MB of RAM (win manages the virtual memory settings) with plenty of hard disk available yet still getting the error message? ------------------ "The most important element in war is man. And there are no tougher men than my China Marines." Major Gen. Archer 'Archy' Vandegrift, 1st Marine Division

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- 1/5/2001 5:25:00 PM   
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I just installed 4.5 and this problem appeared. For your fault finding info, it occurs when I play a PBEM game againsy my self WITHOUT closing down SPWaW after each turn. Close down the game and restart afresh for the other player turn and everything works perfectly. Definitely a resource allocation problem, but if you are playing someone over the net it shouldn't be a problem (but a good thing to be aware of)!!! Has anyone else noticed that the game tends to slow down (scrolling, vehicle movement etc) after you have loaded several games in a single session? Probably related to the same thing. It appears that a reboot is required to free things up in this situation. Just my personal observations, Reg.

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- 1/5/2001 6:30:00 PM   
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It happened to me,too. I had given a printjob to my printer. The printer was out of paper and never started. I deleted the print order in the printer manager. After that I started SPWaW and got the error message" not enough ram for VCR file". I ended SPWAW, and shut down windows. Windows told me that my print orders would be lost when shutting down now! SOo it really seems to be a Windows memory manager problem. I have a celeron 600, 128 MB RAM and a 10 GB harddisk with about 3GB free.

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- 1/5/2001 10:41:00 PM   
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AMD K6-2 266 mhz VoodooII from Trident (old, updated drivers, forget model)128mb RAM, 8 gig HD Windows managed virtual, never have this EXCEPT on the created campaigns!! IE WF, or U2R, never in my HUGE campaign, or on any scenario.s, even sometimes I have some programs running in the back-ground when testing something, no error, just on the user created campaigns...allotment confused maybe, since the files are in campaign folder, who knows?! Anyone else notice this? ------------------ Mike Amos Meine Ehre Heisst Treue

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- 1/5/2001 11:24:00 PM   
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I have the same problem but it didn't start until after I installed my 3D video card. It happens to me after creating a scenario in the editor then when I go in to test it when I hit "End Turn" the message shows up. If I reboot and start the game again - the message does not show up. Figmo

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