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Any Way to Improve Planet Quality? - 4/3/2011 3:52:55 AM   
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I was quite surprised by the absence of terraforming in this game. I like to blast my enemies to hell rather than admit their inferior citizens into my great nation. Anyone who has pursued that course of action knows that it completely ruins a planet (realistic which I like, don't care one whit about the rep damage). What I don't like is that there's no way to repair any of it, that planet is dusted for the rest of the game (my games last a while).

I was wondering if there was any such function I might have missed that serves to tidy up a planet a little bit ('m not talking all the way to 100%, but something reasonably habitable (~ 75-80%); and no I don't want to go into the editor and add or modify planets). Like I said, I don't mind at all that orbital bombardment utterly ravages a planet, I just think the races would have a sound grip on terraforming technology by this time. Perhaps something to consider in a future update.

Also, I noticed that when I order a bombardment, any ships in the fleet with troops proceed to drop them on the planet, resulting in them being annihilated along with everything else on the world. I assume that that wasn't intentionally implemented.

That said, this is a really good game that far exceeded my expectations.


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RE: Any Way to Improve Planet Quality? - 4/3/2011 4:14:02 AM   
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Ive checked the manual and galactopedia there is nothing.

In the editor you can double click the planet and set the quality from 0-100%. Up to you if you find that doesnt suit you.

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RE: Any Way to Improve Planet Quality? - 4/3/2011 8:37:32 AM   
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This is already requested by my and others, not sure how feasible it is but being a mooniac I would really like be able to make paradises everywhere (I mean gaia)
Have fun and welcome to the community, laughinglab

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RE: Any Way to Improve Planet Quality? - 4/4/2011 9:35:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: laughinglab

I was quite surprised by the absence of terraforming in this game. I like to blast my enemies to hell rather than admit their inferior citizens into my great nation. Anyone who has pursued that course of action knows that it completely ruins a planet (realistic which I like, don't care one whit about the rep damage).


In earlier versions of the game, before planets with a basic quality below 100% were introduced, the damage from bombardment would recover, slowly. I wonder whether this is still the case?

Of course, I never put it to the test myself. Bombardment is just too wasteful to apply.

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ORIGINAL: Data

This is already requested by my and others, not sure how feasible it is but being a mooniac I would really like be able to make paradises everywhere (I mean gaia)


Note, that the spread of planet qualities was introduced in the first place as a sort of balancing, to reduce the availability of profitably habitable planets short of lowering the numbers of (mostly) ocean, desert, ice and volcanic worlds. Also to put a curb on late game economies, I guess.

That doesn't speak itself against the introduction of some terraforming techs to countermand that old balancing, but anything of the kind probably has low priority.

Something I personally don't like is how many volcanic and sometimes desert colonies with ruins end up with a quality below 50%. This can include planets with specials providing empire wide bonuses. I'd like those to get some special handling by the galaxy generator, raising the quality. Not, that this'd be necessary from a gameplay perspective. Having to pay locally for some global benefits can make sense. One still wonders how those planets had once been settled at all, given the bad conditions (hey, maybe they were bombed in the distant past?).

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RE: Any Way to Improve Planet Quality? - 4/4/2011 10:11:35 AM   
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In earlier versions of the game, before planets with a basic quality below 100% were introduced, the damage from bombardment would recover, slowly. I wonder whether this is still the case?


It does, I did it once to see it. I don't like bombing either for the exact same reason.

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RE: Any Way to Improve Planet Quality? - 4/5/2011 9:56:57 AM   
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Has anyone ever tried doing the reverse as a game strategy?
Instead of conquering everything, bomb planets back to some 50% to hurt the owner and to keep him down?

Something for the less nice races to be sure...

The Ikurro seemed hardly conquerable to my Dhayuts, too much rebellion (super AI mod). Not that I think you need to destroy the planets, really. If you kill the space ports, the income drops (I think), and they end in the red and won't build new space ports. Also, as you kill their space ports, you of course kill the mining bases in the system once the port is gone, so they lose materials too.

So, as to rule the galaxy in a cruel version... Conquer some smaller races, once you got all of them, you will never be at war with their race. Then keep the rest down by destroying infrastructure and bomb high quality planets if they are stupid enough to start a war.

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RE: Any Way to Improve Planet Quality? - 4/5/2011 10:29:16 AM   
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I've not done it but you'd need to rinse and repeat, the quality recovers quite rapidly iirc

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RE: Any Way to Improve Planet Quality? - 4/5/2011 11:09:09 AM   
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As long as it is not painfully slow, they should be bombed a bit lower then. And with no high quality planets, no space ports, and a small lack of mining bases, the empire should be quite broke for a while, anyways.

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