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WitPAE + Eagle Against the Sun = Prophetic - 5/4/2011 4:06:15 AM   
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Having played gainst the AI enough to feel comfortable, I am about to enter into Civil War bother against brother warfare PBEM in which I will be playing the allies & my brother Japan. Looking to get more into the spirit of the pacific theatre, I decided to do some additional reading on it, one of which is Eagle Against the Sun.

Immediately, I was taken back by how precisely the words of the book are reflected with a nearly uncanny accuracy via the game dynamics within WitPAE.

For instance, in the introduction, "The Major problem involved in defeating Japan proved to be less a matter of choosing the correct strategy than of breaking the logistical bottlenecks - devising means of getting critical items, whether amphibious craft, cargo ships, fighter planes, engineer battalions, or transport aricraft - to the right portions of the battlefronts on time and in sufficient numbers."


Page 83
"...yet the loss of so many aging battleships did not delay the start of an American offensive nearly so much as did the shortage of aricraft carriers, amphibious shipping, and destroyers."

Page 84:
"In hindsight, Japan's geatest mistake was not so much to attack Pearl Harbor as it was to attack the United States at all."


I am enjoying the hell out of this book & astounded by the prophetic nature of those sentences; hats off to WitPAE & a damn fine game.


Although I am extremely confident that before '45 I'll be drinking saki in Tokyo, it's tainted by the knowledge it'll have to be pried from my brother's hands.

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RE: WitPAE + Eagle Against the Sun = Prophetic - 5/4/2011 4:30:37 AM   
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Eagle Against the Sun is perhaps the best one volume history on the Pacific War published in the last generation. I've had it a long time and have read it at least three times.

His conclusion is worth pondering.

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RE: WitPAE + Eagle Against the Sun = Prophetic - 5/4/2011 10:18:03 AM   
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He does a good job of looking at various controversies and coming up with seemingly fair assments (the Smith vs Smith situation on Saipan for example)

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RE: WitPAE + Eagle Against the Sun = Prophetic - 5/4/2011 3:08:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HexHead

Eagle Against the Sun is perhaps the best one volume history on the Pacific War published in the last generation. I've had it a long time and have read it at least three times.

His conclusion is worth pondering.

I did alot of researching trying to find a book that I thought would do an excellent job covering the pacific war. I agree that one is probly my favorite one so far on that area.

Although I have not finished it, I did already read My Hitch in Hell: The Bataan Death March by Lester L Tenney. That one left hole in my gut. Also looking over World War II Pacific Island Guide: A Geo-Military Study by Gordon Rottom when I look at specific islands.



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RE: WitPAE + Eagle Against the Sun = Prophetic - 5/4/2011 3:14:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jeffs

He does a good job of looking at various controversies and coming up with seemingly fair assments (the Smith vs Smith situation on Saipan for example)


It's that part I highlighted in bold that I find refreshing about his writing. I get put off by authors clearly have a bone to pick or agenda to push. Personally, I'd rather have the truth, even if ugly, unflattering, and/or reveals some previously held truth to be not only wrong but completely inaccurate. His style sits well with me and I get the impression that he is trying to tell it like it is rather than sugar coat or sweep certain things under the rug.

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RE: WitPAE + Eagle Against the Sun = Prophetic - 5/4/2011 5:28:45 PM   
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Great book, it sounds like. I'll give it a try. For a more operational look at the war, try Shattered Sword and Fire in the Sky. The conclusions of Shattered Sword drive a lot of my PBEM thinking to this day.

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RE: WitPAE + Eagle Against the Sun = Prophetic - 5/4/2011 8:26:39 PM   
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Thanks, I was looking for something to read and got this and Kamikaze Attacks of WW2 by Robin Reilly which has some fascinating pictures in it and really looks informative just skimming over it.

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