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BB atomic shells? - 6/1/2011 8:01:58 PM   
jmalter

 

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Status: offline 		playing Downfall (14v2) under the 1108m6 beta,
when running the attached turn i was amused to see 2 Bombardment TFs attack w/ nukes!
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Night Naval bombardment of Nagasaki/Sasebo at 102,58

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 4 destroyed on ground
S1A1 Denko: 1 destroyed on ground

15 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia
BB Colorado
CA Tuscaloosa
CA San Francisco
DD Wilson
DD Sterett
DD Stack
DD Lang
DD Ellet
DD Sampson

Japanese ground losses:
110 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)



ATOMIC BOMB hits 16

Mitsubishi Ha-32 hits 1
Nakajima Ha-45 hits 1
Nakajima Ha-45 hits 2
Resources hits 1
hits 19
Mitsubishi Ha-33 hits 17
Merchant Shipyard hits 15
hits 4
Nakajima Ha-45 hits 17
Manpower hits 6
Fires 4494
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 90
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1



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RE: BB atomic shells? - 6/1/2011 8:44:54 PM   
JohnDillworth


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See item 4. Looks like a shell from the future

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RE: BB atomic shells? - 6/1/2011 9:14:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		BOOM! The JFBs won't like this.

Although I would have expected to see more fires started from 16 nukes. Must be the small tactical ones....

BTW. I couldn't get the replay to produce the same results but I was also prompted to update the database when I loaded the file (I'll have to go back and see if I have the same Downfall release).




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RE: BB atomic shells? - 6/2/2011 4:54:03 AM   
jmalter

 

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Status: offline 		hi JohnD,
thx for the link, navweaps.com is a great bookmark.

& vonT,
thx for taking the time to play thru my savegame. i've just run the subsequent turn, 2 of 3 BB TFs scored a total of 11 'atomic' hits while bombarding Nagasaki/Sasebo. Both TFs were older BBs w/ 12" or 14" guns, so we can discount the 'shells from the future' idea! As you noted, the resulting damage just ain't what you'd suspect from an atomic shell - i suspect some kinda' glitch here.
The Downfall scenario's concept (that the atom-bombs fizzled, requiring the Allies to invade Japan) pointers me to believe that no atomic weapons are available.

best regards,
jM





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RE: BB atomic shells? - 6/2/2011 11:19:50 AM   
Fletcher


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Status: offline 		Great ! jmalter,

Two USN battleships got better outcome that my all Battleline bombing at daytime Guadalcanal.. I got 2 USMC squads disabled after bombing with HIJMS YAMATO and another 4 Battleships. NO more hits, no more damages.
Obviously USN at ending stage of war is far ready than IJN with optimal and radar equipment, I know... But I think the damages are huge
best wishes

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RE: BB atomic shells? - 6/2/2011 11:19:51 AM   
michaelm75au


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Can't see why that happened as ABombs are part of air-combat.


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RE: BB atomic shells? - 6/2/2011 11:51:19 AM   
Durbik


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quote:

ATOMIC BOMB hits 16

Mitsubishi Ha-32 hits 1
Nakajima Ha-45 hits 1
Nakajima Ha-45 hits 2
Resources hits 1
hits 19
Mitsubishi Ha-33 hits 17
Merchant Shipyard hits 15
hits 4
Nakajima Ha-45 hits 17
Manpower hits 6
Fires 4494
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 90
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1


What are those (bolded by me) hit reports? What was hit? Is this FOW, as attacker doesn't really know what suffers from nuclear blast in the neighbourhood?

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RE: BB atomic shells? - 6/2/2011 9:25:05 PM   
jmalter

 

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Status: offline 		hi michael,
the attached savegame includes my tasking orders (unlike my previous attached savegame, which was saved prior to tasking). When I executed this savegame, 2 of 3 Bombardment TFs got 'nukular' hits on Nagasaki/Sasebo, this is the 3rd consecutive turn where this has happened. I don't believe these are actual nuke attacks, i think they're a reporting glitch. I don't think they're due to the m6beta, i'd run previous turns in m6b w/ Bombardment TFs against Kurume w/o getting atomic hits.

Mebbe Nagasaki is a nuke-magnet! I'll run these TFs against another target to see if they continue to report atomic hits.

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RE: BB atomic shells? - 6/3/2011 2:00:11 AM   
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Will fix fir next build


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RE: BB atomic shells? - 6/3/2011 5:41:19 AM   
jmalter

 

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RE: BB atomic shells? - 6/3/2011 5:42:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: michaelm

Overflow issue. Been there all along.
Will fix fir next build



Ahhh. You mean I can't continually nuke all the Japanese ports and get a suntan?

Seriously, michaelm, you're doing a great job. This is customer service above and beyond the call of duty.

michaelm, you're a gem.

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RE: BB atomic shells? - 6/3/2011 11:57:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: michaelm

Overflow issue. Been there all along.
Will fix fir next build



Bugger, I wanted the JFB to stay in fear of my ex Pearl harbor BB's!

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RE: BB atomic shells? - 6/4/2011 1:19:36 AM   
michaelm75au


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Durbik

quote:

ATOMIC BOMB hits 16

Mitsubishi Ha-32 hits 1
Nakajima Ha-45 hits 1
Nakajima Ha-45 hits 2
Resources hits 1
hits 19
Mitsubishi Ha-33 hits 17
Merchant Shipyard hits 15
hits 4
Nakajima Ha-45 hits 17
Manpower hits 6
Fires 4494
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 90
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1


What are those (bolded by me) hit reports? What was hit? Is this FOW, as attacker doesn't really know what suffers from nuclear blast in the neighbourhood?

They were actually hits to the aircraft factories in the base.

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