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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 6/23/2011 11:55:14 AM   
Rik81

 

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Status: offline 		This patch allows the Russians to ue the "bound" command--at least it pops up as a choice. Is that intended?

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 6/23/2011 12:47:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Only if Soviets have AOW instead of SOW. Was this seen in a random battle or set battle or every battle?

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 6/23/2011 1:46:12 PM   
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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 6/23/2011 1:51:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Soviets started the war with SOW. As the war progressed the Soviets changed to AOW. Since that scenario is May 1945, the designer decided to have the Soviets with AOW. He may also have given the Germans SOW to represent the breakdown in German structure late in the war.

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 6/23/2011 1:58:06 PM   
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This patch allows the Russians to ue the "bound" command--at least it pops up as a choice. Is that intended?
Soviets must have AOW then.
That's someones fantasy.

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 6/23/2011 2:27:23 PM   
Rik81

 

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 6/23/2011 2:37:01 PM   
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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 6/23/2011 3:29:16 PM   
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Excuse my ignorance but what means: AOW and SOW?

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Seminal to the structure of Soviet military theory is the Marxist perception that the historical process is governed by discoverable laws in much the same way that natural processes are governed by discoverable laws of nature. According to this perception, laws are defined as "... the essential, stable or repetitious interrelationships according to which the seemingly chaos of observable historical phenomena or facts interact" Although observed facts and phenomena have a number of interrelationships, not all are essential or repetitious. Thus, relationships that are unique to a specific event, even if they were critical to that event, do not qualify as laws and are therefore scientifically unimportant.



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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 6/24/2011 2:42:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mobius


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ORIGINAL: Rik81

This patch allows the Russians to ue the "bound" command--at least it pops up as a choice. Is that intended?
Soviets must have AOW then.
That's someones fantasy.


It could be someones fantasy or it's a way to make a particular scenario more realistic.

The German Kampfgruppe was made up of testing ground technicians with vehicles that were in various stages of the testing process. The Soviets were at their most experienced.

The very reason the scenario editor has choices for you to include in scenarios is that not every situation is the same. I don't try to make scenarios that force the historical results on gamers. I try to make scenarios that put you in the commanders shoes, at a point I think is the most interesting in the original historical action.

That may not be what some gamers are looking for. It's apparently not what you're looking for. That's okay. I make my scenarios to suit me and once I get them to the point I'm happy with them I share them with others.

Whether or not I've made this scenario/operation end up in the realm of fantasy depends on what my goal for the scenario/operation was in the first place.

We spent weeks doing research on the battle location, the actual battle results, and the final resting place of the Maus. The Biggest and Baddest is my interpretation of that research and the original action. If my interpretation of the action doesn't suit your gaming tastes there are plenty of other scenarios/operations in the game, that I didn't design, that I'm sure you'll like.

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 6/26/2011 5:48:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have the beta running. Question - when I run the "check for updates" it says there is a newer version of PCOF. If I let it run, will it simply remove my beta and put it back to where I started? I hesitate to 'update' until I know it's truely and update (as in improvement).

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 6/29/2011 3:01:36 AM   
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I have the beta running. Question - when I run the "check for updates" it says there is a newer version of PCOF. If I let it run, will it simply remove my beta and put it back to where I started? I hesitate to 'update' until I know it's truely and update (as in improvement).


If you already have the Beta patch then you shouldn't need to run the update.

Thanks
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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/2/2011 10:21:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		21. Fixed a problem with the Winter version of the Panzerschreck team

This problem is NOT fixed, I'm afraid. I've tested it thorougly but the battle doesn't load when it contains winter Schreck teams.


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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/2/2011 5:17:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I opened the tutorial in the editor, changed the name, changed the date to 1944, upped the points to 400, added a shreck platoon, saved.

Start battle, schreck teams are there and wearing greatcoats.

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/2/2011 5:34:52 PM   
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21. Fixed a problem with the Winter version of the Panzerschreck team

This problem is NOT fixed, I'm afraid. I've tested it thorougly but the battle doesn't load when it contains winter Schreck teams.



Are you using an infantry mod? I see junkn2drive checked, i'll double check as well. Someone else on team also reported that this wasn't fixed.

Thanks
rick




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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/2/2011 6:48:58 PM   
Jacko


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Status: offline 		Hi Rick, I use the full platoon mod, made by Szartur. I've replaced it again with the units from the patch and now it works. I apologize for the false alarm...

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/2/2011 7:28:48 PM   
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Hi Rick, I use the full platoon mod, made by Szartur. I've replaced it again with the units from the patch and now it works. I apologize for the false alarm...


No problem Jacko, thanks for letting us know.

Rick

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... - 7/6/2011 2:25:32 PM   
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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/6/2011 3:26:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		We are trying to finish the next beta ASAP, hopefully this week. Then I expect another week or so before it becomes official.

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/8/2011 4:19:05 AM   
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Everyone has been courteous, helpful, and pretty much devoid of any fanboy attitudes that could potentially ruin an otherwise excellent forum.


We prefer a realistic approach, to fixing issues that gamers find, to the traditional fanboy attitude. It works much better for getting things fixed and to make a good game better.

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/15/2011 11:47:37 PM   
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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/16/2011 1:22:31 AM   
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Any news with the beta?


+1..I'd also like to know the status of the updated beta.

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/16/2011 1:24:42 AM   
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Any news with the beta?


There are just a couple of things we are trying to iron out. We are going to try and get another pulbic Beta this week if we are able to fix this one remaining item.

Thanks
rick

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/19/2011 4:42:00 PM   
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We are still working on this Beta patch. The solution the main problem is rather elusive.

Thanks
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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/19/2011 5:58:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Take your time and get it right, Rick, no problem. 

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/23/2011 12:09:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Any progress, guys? Just curious, not impatient. 

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RE: New Public Beta Update Available - 7/23/2011 4:11:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		We are testing the next version now. Check back later.

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