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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/12/2012 11:29:44 PM   
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******************************************** 04 OCT 42 **********************************************

CENPAC:

A IJN Submarine attempts to lay mines at Makin .. they run into a nasty surprise ..

TF 39 encounters mine field at Makin (136,125)

Japanese Ships
SS RO-34, Mine hits 1, heavy damage


We go cold on three targets ...

Sub attack near Babeldaob at 91,93

Japanese Ships
PB Narita Maru
xAK Nitian Maru

Allied Ships
SS Thresher

SS Thresher launches 2 torpedoes at PB Narita Maru
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Sub attack near Iwo-jima at 107,74

Japanese Ships
xAK Kiso Maru
PB Teimei Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tambor
SS Tambor launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kiso Maru
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Sub attack near Zamboanga at 76,90

Japanese Ships
xAK Toyokawa Maru

Allied Ships
SS Flying Fish

SS Flying Fish launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Toyokawa Maru



BURMA:

I used the fighter squadrons to escort and stood down the fighter squadrons theat were on LRCAP .. the IJ came calling ..

Afternoon Air attack on 255th Armoured Brigade, at 60,44 , near Shwebo

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 12
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 18
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27



Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 2


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 17 (1 destroyed, 16 disabled)


The tanks are the problem ...

Well Hudsons have no effects ..

Morning Air attack on 10th Tank Regiment, at 59,45 (Shwebo)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 12

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 10th Tank Regiment, at 59,45 (Shwebo)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 10

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb


We do better with the follow up raid ..

Morning Air attack on 15th Army, at 59,45 (Shwebo)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 7
Blenheim IV x 32
Hudson IIIa x 11
Hurricane IIc Trop x 26
Wellington Ic x 16
139WH-3 x 9
Kittyhawk I x 16
B-25C Mitchell x 32

No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
320 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 70 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 32 (1 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Vehicles lost 27 (7 destroyed, 20 disabled)



Morning Air attack on 5th Division, at 59,45 (Shwebo)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 10
Vengeance I x 31

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
107 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Afternoon Air attack on 5th Division, at 59,45 (Shwebo)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


About 1% causulties .. 440 men out of 34K ..

We sweep Meiktila and kill 2 Oscars ..

Morning Air attack on Meiktila , at 58,47

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 5

Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses
1LT Rea F. of 23rd FG/75th FS is credited with kill number 2
CPT Gibbons O. of 23rd FG/75th FS is credited with kill number 2
1LT Moorhouse B. of 23rd FG/75th FS is credited with kill number 2


OZ:

We exchange plesentries bombing each others units .

Morning Air attack on 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 76,130 , near Daly Waters

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 5
B-17F Fortress x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)



and the IJAAF ..

Morning Air attack on 2/4th Armoured Regiment, at 76,130 , near Daly Waters

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 3 damaged

Allied ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


More later ...

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/13/2012 1:54:53 AM   
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Those are really nice results at Shwebo. I have had no luck at killing japs in the jungle with bombing and the IJAF bases in central Burma must have 100 Oscars (high alt ones) and more than a couple of Tojos. I launch maybe one and a half alpha strikes a month, but mostly at the Imperial Guards and 15th Army but located in jungle opposite Akyab and my Brits and Aussies holding the flank.

Oh yeah...
A IJN Submarine attempts to lay mines at Makin .. they run into a nasty surprise ..

TF 39 encounters mine field at Makin (136,125)

Japanese Ships
SS RO-34, Mine hits 1, heavy damage



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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/13/2012 1:57:56 AM   
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HuHuH mine hits sub HuHuH

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/13/2012 3:41:42 AM   
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**************************************** 05 OCT 42 ***************************************

BURMA:

We stand down our tired Hurricane Pilots .. big mistake ..

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cox's Bazar at 54,43

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6
No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
KV Freesia

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo




The first strike the Freesia gets lucky ..

The second strike does not go as well ..


Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cox's Bazar at 54,43

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
KV Jasmine
KV Freesia, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


OZ:

Morning Air attack on 2/4th Armoured Regiment, at 76,130 , near Daly Waters

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 4 damaged


Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)


But we shock attack ..


Ground combat at 76,130 (near Daly Waters)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1343 troops, 0 guns, 77 vehicles, Assault Value = 232

Defending force 1211 troops, 28 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Allied adjusted assault: 31

Japanese adjusted defense: 2

Allied assault odds: 15 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
353 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 41 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (4 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!


He keeps bombing and bombarding our poor boys ..


Ground combat at Milne Bay (101,133)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1530 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 63

Defending force 2396 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 65

Assaulting units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
5th Naval Construction Battalion

Defending units:
Gull Battalion
55th British Brigade
Sparrow Battalion
49th Australian Battalion



More later ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/13/2012 4:17:34 PM   
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NOTE: I am gratuitously stealing from the style of Cap Mandrake:

LTC Karhade: "HQ 26th Indian Infantry Division,LTC Karhade Speaking"

General Wavell: "Could you please get me the commander of the 26th ... Please"

LTC Karhade: "LTC Karhade Speaking ..."

General Wavell: "I am in no mood for games young man .. transfer me to the commander of the 26th Division would you please there chap .."

LTC Karhade: "You are speaking to LTC Karhade "

General Wavell: "Listen young man get me the commander of the 26th Division .. General ... oh something or the other .."

LTC Karhade: " No General .. just Lieutenant Colonel.. I bought my commision just last Thursday when the units recombined .. for a 25% share of golf course at Swebo .. I tell you one day I am having tea with the boys, and the next day I am having gin & tonics .., one can have a lot of fun telling people what to do ... this war is great !!!"

General Wavell: "Oh Bloody h*%$#!"

LTC Karhade: "By the way General do you think you could send some more tonic water on the next flights .. it seems we are running low ..and the men need tea ...."




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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/13/2012 5:34:53 PM   
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We after fixing the above problem(s) .. meaning firing a whole bunch of commanders ... we should have 1:1 odds at Swebo given 80% supply vs. level 3 forts. We have superior armor and lots of it ...we shall see how this unfolds this turn. Base Forces are moving toward Katha and Mytikina ..

I have more Indian/British toops to deploy towards Lashio and I see only about 40-50 AV defending this prize ..

Ido see this campaign going through the Monsoon season with a very bloody stalemate grinding away ...

The good news is that 1K IJA AV is tied down at Swebo and more IJ reinforcements are heading this way. Strategically I feel this is fitting the overall plan of stalemate and attirtion -- preparing for late 43 - early '44 major offensives..but first we must deal with our situation at Swebo .




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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/14/2012 10:40:53 PM   
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******************************************* 06 OCT 42 ***************************************

CENPAC:

The LYB's have parked 6 submarines off the coast of Pearl Harbor. We in turn set loose 3 ASW TF's to engage. The results were not very fulfilling

ASW attack near Lihue at 179,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
DD Bancroft
DD Banckert

SS I-21 launches 6 torpedoes at DD Bancroft

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Sub attack near Lihue at 179,106

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
DD Monssen

SS I-21 launches 2 torpedoes


Besides making them use 8 torps .. no real accomplishments here ...

The air is not really exciting this turn either .. we tried bombing at night with zero results at PM.

BURMA:

Things take a very interesting turn in Burma:


Ground combat at Shwebo (59,45)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 60150 troops, 789 guns, 1778 vehicles, Assault Value = 2882

Defending force 6219 troops, 52 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 191

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 1658

Japanese adjusted defense: 15

Allied assault odds: 110 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Shwebo !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3647 casualties reported
Squads: 165 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 186 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 51 (45 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Allied ground losses:
408 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 68 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!


It seems that the IJA planned to beat a hasty retreat from Swebo once we gathered forces .. It seems the IJA were having gret difficulties keeping a force supplied at Swebo. So as we saw in the picture above nearly 32K troops or 1K AV should have been there .. but they just skedattled this turn ...leaving behind a mere 6K troops and these boys were slaughtered ..The armor escaped although and now we will have to come up with a new place for a stalemate ..

Ok more later ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 1:40:58 AM   
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Thats lots of dead japs oops I mean nips ooops i mean LYBs. Cross the river and run them out. You should be receiving C-47s in numbers soon, 100 by x-mas?

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 4:24:18 AM   
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quote:

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Thats lots of dead japs oops I mean nips ooops i mean LYBs. Cross the river and run them out. You should be receiving C-47s in numbers soon, 100 by x-mas?


Excellent . I am using bombers to resupply right now !!!

One problem in continuing this offense is supply... but .. I have a plan for dislodging the LYB's from Mandalay in '43. I hope to create enough problems the IJ have to send forces here and away from the CENPAC/OZ.

I do think this was an excellent move from the IJ. If the IJA keep forces engaged in a stalemate -- I can maneuver and cut these guys off. Now for one lost battle he can redeploy these forces and feint ..

My PP's have been devoted to India/Burma since the point in this game that the IJ were determined to invade Northern Oz/New Guinea. That committed 5 divisions that could not respond and simply the IJ got spread thin here ...combine that with a deep invasion of Southern China and opportunity came knocking to perform an offensive thrust.

I also think the IJ economy has gotten out of wack in terms of producing supply vs. other production. Given the overall losses the IJ have some decisions to make and readjust the economy ...

I guess we are both doing our best to prepare for '43 ...

It has been a very fun game so far .. very very challanging for me ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 1:24:02 PM   
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HQs - Just some friendly info on HQs. Do you have one of the two India based Command HQs based at Imphal?? This will pull in an extra 25k in supply. Next, have that same Command HQ prep for your next base that you wish to capture (range is 9 hexes). If the "dice gods" favor you in an attack, this can add an extra 90% to your assault value. Of course having a few Corp HQs prepping for the next series of attacks always helps (10% assault bonus). It is easy to overlook the additional punch that the Allies get from having so many HQs available.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 3:13:16 PM   
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quote:

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HQs - Just some friendly info on HQs. Do you have one of the two India based Command HQs based at Imphal?? This will pull in an extra 25k in supply. Next, have that same Command HQ prep for your next base that you wish to capture (range is 9 hexes). If the "dice gods" favor you in an attack, this can add an extra 90% to your assault value. Of course having a few Corp HQs prepping for the next series of attacks always helps (10% assault bonus). It is easy to overlook the additional punch that the Allies get from having so many HQs available.


ABDA withdraws in three days. Burma Corps is at Imphal now, but they withdraw in 85 days. Eastern Army is walking from Sinchar to Imphal as we speak ..

IV & III Corps commands are walking slowly into theater...

For the gallery .. the other Indian commands like the Eastern Command [vs. Army]are static ...

Right now I believe the IJ are quite alarmed over events. I do not believe they pushed enough supply from Rangoon and Moulmein up into Mandalay, and will react with all haste to correct this situation. I also believe the IJ have an unbalanced economy right now. Anyway, I had an email exchange explaining how I understand stockpiling works and pushing supply. At least how I was using the strategic flow of supplies in building bases that can horde near the battlespace, and operational flow of supplies as I understood how the game works. The IJ did not build up Swebo nor Mandalay yet for this purpose.

I can say that operations during the monsoon season has burned up tons of supplies. Starting at Bombay I have gone from 1M+ to 500K and this has rippled throughout the system. I am moving the 300K supply reserve from Abadan [I think the one supply per 1 oil refined is correct in this patch and thus Abadan will slowly drain of supplies] to Karachi for example. But all of India is producing supplies to be wasted as supply spoilage in pushing supplies into Burma ...

In other news ... the IJN are flooding Pearl Harbor with submarines I think with the notion that the USN CVTF's have to return home to Pearl at sometime fpr refit. I have lots of other options, but certainly repeating history is not a good one [meaning getting a CV wacked at Pearl Harbor ..]. I do have three ASW TF's with decent commanders patroling the waters looking for submarines. maybe we can cull the pack.

More later ..

OK I await the turn ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 5:07:26 PM   
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While waiting for the turn I thought I would post a map of the situaiton in Burma with Swebo in Allied hands. The next steps are very clear. Cut the rail line from Mandalay to Lashio. This can involve zero combat and is not dependent on supplies to accomplish [with the exception of starving units morale, and the effects of Malaria on starving/disrupted units]. Getting this rail line cut begins a "Stalingrad" like situation [except its a lot warmer in Burma] for the IJA forces north of Mandalay and occupying South China.

This sets up a push in '43 ...




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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 5:31:36 PM   
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Well I cannot figure this error out and I have searched the forum. One thing, that is different that I noticed. Bhamo is occupied by the IJA, but the base has not changed hands. [see where the 200 AV is pointing to and no IJ flag yet even after 2 days and wining the battle ..]

Resetting the database and starting a new directory produces the same error. There is some inconsistancy in the WitP-AE datafile that WitPStaff does not like and errors ...I am thinking that the inconsistnacy at Bhamo is doing the trick but I am not sure ...


I like WitPStaff over Tracker for visualizing where ships that need to be upgraded are ...




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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 6:05:16 PM   
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As the Allies, you have plenty of AKs. I would set up one or two TF that go from Eastern USA to Cape Town. Then you can distribute from there.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 6:07:24 PM   
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*********************************** 07 OCT 42 *******************************

The Submarine battles dominated this day .. first the USN with their torp problems ...

Sub attack near Dadjangas at 79,94

Japanese Ships
xAK Nagato Maru
PB Kaiun Maru

Allied Ships
SS Finback

SS Finback launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Nagato Maru
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Sub attack near Sangi at 78,96

Japanese Ships
PB Kaiun Maru

Allied Ships
SS Perch

SS Perch launches 2 torpedoes at PB Kaiun Maru

Sub attack near Sangi at 78,96

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 2
xAK Goyo Maru
xAK Tacoma Maru
xAK Melbourne Maru
xAK Canberra Maru
DD Shikinami
SC Ch 5

Allied Ships
SS Sunfish
Captain of SS Sunfish elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
Sunfish diving deep ....


Then our DD's around PH decide to take sightseeing cruises ignoring the Submarines around them ..

ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 179,107

Japanese Ships
SS I-33

Allied Ships
DD Lansdowne

SS I-33 is sighted by escort
DD Lansdowne fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
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ASW attack near Lihue at 178,107

Japanese Ships
SS I-33

Allied Ships
DD Aylwin
DD Sims

SS I-33 is sighted by escort
I-33 diving deep ....


Then the Gwin finds its prey. The animation described critical hits, fires below, flooding, and I hear the eery sound of a Sub settling into Davy Jones' locker ..


ASW attack near Lihue at 178,107

Japanese Ships
SS I-33, hits 5

Allied Ships
DD Gwin
DD Lansdowne
DD Monssen

SS I-33 is located by DD Gwin


We shall see if some miracle occurs here and this one escapes ..

One last little ASW tibit ..

OS2U-3 Kingfisher from VS-1D11 attacking a Type KD6A class SS at 138,132 a Type K5 class SS is reported HIT

The airwar was the same ol' stuff. Lilly bombing Swebo at night.

We do find the 5th Division, surviors of the 74 Infantry Rgt, and the 93rd JAAF AF at Mandalay

Morning Air attack on 5th Division, at 59,46 (Mandalay)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 9
B-25C Mitchell x 16


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on 74th Infantry Regiment, at 59,46 (Mandalay)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes


Allied aircraft
Vengeance I x 32


Allied aircraft losses
Vengeance I: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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Morning Air attack on 93rd JAAF AF Bn , at 59,46 (Mandalay)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 16


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled



Port Moesby and Meiktila had no resistance this turn to sweeps ...

More later as the turn develops ..



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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 8:06:04 PM   
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As the Allies, you have plenty of AKs. I would set up one or two TF that go from Eastern USA to Cape Town. Then you can distribute from there.


I listened early I have enough AK's at CT to keep pace with the fuel coming from Abadan ..and the short legged TK's keep India happy ..but as always advice is most welcome in this thread ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 8:52:46 PM   
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I was referring to moving large amounts of supply from USA to Cape Town. Add in, no subs to worry about.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 9:06:39 PM   
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I was referring to moving large amounts of supply from USA to Cape Town. Add in, no subs to worry about.



Ahhh...!!!! OK .. have not thought of this ..!!

The contraint thus far has been fuel and not supply. The 75 ships moving stuff to the land of Oz [38 in port right now] have burned down fuel as low as 40K. A TK convoy has just topped off CT. Yet I from the regular convoys I have close to 900K supply. Basically I do not have the fuel to keep enough ships fueled up to move the supply I current have there ..

I think I understand your point in that soon I will have 5 more TK's to move fuel to CT and thus will support another 20 - 30 xAK's .. I will move some to CT will supply ..





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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 10:42:05 PM   
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************************************** 08 OCT 42 *********************************

First the saga of the West Virginia

Temporary flotation repairs failing aboard BB West Virginia She is having trouble with the pumps

CENPAC:

Milli is only a level 1 port but I want to be sure that any ships that drop stuff off here cannot dock or uses Fast Transport ..

Morning Air attack on Mili , at 136,121

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 42
B-17F Fortress x 24


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Port hits 23
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 3


Around Pearl Harbor another DD takes ASW practice on SS I-21 ..

ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 179,105

Japanese Ships
SS I-21, hits 2

Allied Ships
DD Banckert


The USN find a huge Tanker convoy but cannot penatrate ..

Sub attack near Truk at 113,100

Japanese Ships
DD Tanikaze
AV Kunikawa Maru
AO Toho Maru
AO Shinkoku Maru
AO San Clemente Maru
AKE Hirota Maru
DD Fuyo
DD Uzuki
DD Sazanami

Allied Ships
SS Snapper

SS Snapper launches 4 torpedoes at DD Tanikaze


Mayla ...


These units have been trapped behind the lines for a very long time .. I have them show up to be killed off so I can rebuild them ...

Ground combat at 50,72 (near Singora)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4190 troops, 35 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 148

Defending force 1845 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Japanese adjusted assault: 64

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 64 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)


Allied ground losses:
435 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 49 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1


Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards/C Division

Defending units:
8th Indian Brigade
FMSV Brigade


More later ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/15/2012 11:24:55 PM   
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I use all my dual capacity xAK/AKs as tankers (Euro K, Euro L, C3-E, C2 Cargo). Its easy to get supplies moved around, but fuel is always a challenge and those damn warships can suck a port dry in a heart beat. The war of logistics can really be costly, even as the Allies.

OT - I'm getting ready to start a PBEM game as Allies with RA mod, so I have to find some notes and other info that was important last time I played the Allies so I don't have to relearn some important stuff. Not game changing info, just things like using those little Port Service units wisely and don't let them get stuck in a base that is now large enough not to need them.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/16/2012 1:29:07 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I was referring to moving large amounts of supply from USA to Cape Town. Add in, no subs to worry about.



Ahhh...!!!! OK .. have not thought of this ..!!

The contraint thus far has been fuel and not supply. The 75 ships moving stuff to the land of Oz [38 in port right now] have burned down fuel as low as 40K. A TK convoy has just topped off CT. Yet I from the regular convoys I have close to 900K supply. Basically I do not have the fuel to keep enough ships fueled up to move the supply I current have there ..

I think I understand your point in that soon I will have 5 more TK's to move fuel to CT and thus will support another 20 - 30 xAK's .. I will move some to CT will supply ..







I had enough large AKs to run three 12-15 ship convoys from the East Coast to Cape Town. For the first year of the war they were running fuel on a constant basis. They only carry half a load but what the heck, the extra fuel got me through the lean times. You are right in that supply was never too much of an issue. India makes plenty of supply and by mid 43 supply starts to flood into Aden.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/16/2012 4:42:22 AM   
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Well everybody has contributed much in this thread. Alfred came by early to provide guidance but I think he has left me on to my own But NY59Giants and Crsutton continue to leave excellent tibits that seem to always apply to the situation at hand ..thanks guys!

This turn we turned loose every single 4E & 2E bomber .. we shall see who flys to targets but Mandalay troops,;Port Moresby port and airfield; Tulgi Port; and Jaluit port will feel the wrath of the Boeing Gods ...[and some British manufactures of airframes too ]

Burma changed quite dramtically this turn .. Akyab healed and so we moved 2 squadrons on CAP there .. and shifted the RAF 224 forces to Cox Bazzar & Akyab. 221 is at Sinchar and Imphal . with Base forces moving to Swebo & Katha ... 222 is at Jorhat and Ledo ..225 is all at Ceylon now ... we are prepping for a fight here in '43 ..

With Tarawa a level 4 Base [soon to be level 5] we moved B-25's here .. soon we will have 4E's and 2E's actively projecting power into the Marshall's ..

In Oz we catch and shock the remements of the 19th Ind Bdge ..I suspect the Lily's will bomb us in the open ..

The CENPAC is all about gathering forces from our Makin landing which completed last turn. We moved 3 Squadrons of Fighters, a CAT squadron , and DB's in this turn. We should be ready for the next island in November ..

SOPAC is preparing for a '43 Solomon's campaign. Just in case this issue is forced. Even if we clean out the Marshall's early, neither Truk/Carolines or the Marianas are possible targets in '43 IMHO. The lack of CV support is a real issue and there are big gaps in LBA ranges. We can certainly esablish 4E projection into the battlespace which is the plan for the Solomons and Marshalls ...

More later ...

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/16/2012 3:36:15 PM   
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Well DOCUP and Zuluhour have been inspirational thus far in this frey .. I think we all started our games at the same time with Scenario #1 ..

Not a good turn for the good guys as I got too cocky, and the IJN showed they have lots of power ..

*********************************************** 09 OCT 42 *****************************************

Night Naval bombardment of Akyab at 54,45

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 10 damaged
Hurricane IIb Trop: 5 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIc Trop: 6 damaged
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso


Allied ground losses:
338 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 15 (4 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 24 (8 destroyed, 16 disabled)


Manpower hits 6
Fires 11998
Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 23
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

BB Hyuga firing at Akyab
BB Ise firing at Akyab
BB Yamashiro firing at Akyab
BB Fuso firing at Akyab



Worse my Dive Bombers at Cox's Bazzar had a perfect target as the BB's as the dawn broke ...but for weather

Ok The IJ are not going to let me use Akayb ..

Night Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged


Runway hits 1



IN other news in Burma:

Here is what exists at Mandalay:

Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 8th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 15th Army ...
Also attacking 77th Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 10th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 8th Tank Regiment

Morning Air attack on 8th Tank Regiment, at 59,46 (Mandalay)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
B-25C Mitchell x 16


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
............................
Morning Air attack on 77th Infantry Regiment, at 59,46 (Mandalay)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 9
Blenheim IV x 31
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16
Liberator II x 14
Wellington Ic x 16
139WH-3 x 8
B-25C Mitchell x 32


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
586 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 44 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

.........................................



Its about 1% causulties ...


OZ:

Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12
B-26 Marauder x 48


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 2
....................

Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 15
B-17F Fortress x 12
B-24D Liberator x 11
B-25C Mitchell x 3


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 31
...........................
Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11
.....................
Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12


No Allied losses



An intersting encouter off of Buna ..

Sub attack near Buna at 100,129

Japanese Ships
xAP Teia Maru
SC CHa-17
xAP Keihuku Maru
xAP Tsingtao Maru
xAK Hokuriku Maru
PB Takunan Maru #5
PB Shonon Maru #15

Allied Ships
SS S-46


Either the IJ are dropping off troops or are pulling troops out ...but we are chased off before we can find out ..

In land combat we shock the 21st Mixed IND Bdge
Ground combat at 76,129 (near Katherine)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 2955 troops, 0 guns, 153 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Defending force 1197 troops, 31 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Allied adjusted assault: 100

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 20 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
530 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 19 (11 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1


Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2/8th Armoured Regiment
2/7th Armoured Regiment
2/4th Armoured Regiment
2/9th Armoured Regiment

Defending units:
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade


Actually I executed this very very poorly ... I should have put 2 units in pursuit 2 units to attack. As it is the IJA exchange 500 LYB's for space and a free retreat ..

CENPAC:

Morning Air attack on Jaluit , at 134,120

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 45
B-17F Fortress x 15

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
SS RO-34, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk

Port hits 9
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 5

Morning Air attack on Jaluit , at 134,120

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged

Afternoon Air attack on Jaluit , at 134,120

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 17
SBD-3 Dauntless x 12


No Allied losses

Port hits 1


So for todays battles we lose 2 squadrons to a BB attack at Akyab ....but really sink SS RO-34 ...

Previous report of sinking of SS RO-34 incorrect. Ship sighted and engaged at 134, 120
SS RO-34 is reported to have been sunk near Jaluit on Oct 09, 1942


Ok more later ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/16/2012 6:06:08 PM   
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Given the ground losses I have taken a very close look at WitP Tracker.

The good news is that the Aussies are producing 55 squads per month and in 4 months I will have built out the destroyed units .. that does not count upgrading the units ...

The Indian units are building out at a rate of 48 squads per month and destroyed squads would be be rebuilt in 2 years! [1046 squads needed!] That is given no more losses . which is not possible ..

The brits are building out at a paltry 18 squads per month and to rebuild losses is will take 7 months ..

Again this is not counting any more losses .. which is going to happen ....

So we progress with what we have knowning we will never have enough ...

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/16/2012 6:33:06 PM   
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Burma - Where are your armored units?? They should be headed for Mandalay. Even though their Assault Value is not great, they will eat the Japanese Tank Rgt for lunch. Japan has very poor Anti-Tank devices and their tanks suck. Add in placing some of those large AA Rgt/Bde and they will keep his bombers at a higher altitude. My Allied opponent is keeping most of his air force grounded and advancing with massive AA units with his troops. My two Tank Divisions cannot stand up to over 12 armored units of various size.

I would disband some of your infantry brigades to keep your divisions at full strength. In combat, they take a higher rate of losses than a division when used to attack and some are best just for garrison and defensive use only.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/16/2012 9:00:02 PM   
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Burma - Where are your armored units?? They should be headed for Mandalay. Even though their Assault Value is not great, they will eat the Japanese Tank Rgt for lunch. Japan has very poor Anti-Tank devices and their tanks suck. Add in placing some of those large AA Rgt/Bde and they will keep his bombers at a higher altitude. My Allied opponent is keeping most of his air force grounded and advancing with massive AA units with his troops. My two Tank Divisions cannot stand up to over 12 armored units of various size.

I would disband some of your infantry brigades to keep your divisions at full strength. In combat, they take a higher rate of losses than a division when used to attack and some are best just for garrison and defensive use only.


My armored units are headed to the railway first .. and then to Mandalay .. 100% prepped ... I do not want to cross the river and shcok attack ..

I agree with your point . a couple of full TO&E sized divisions is better than all the fragement of divisons I currently have now .. but I paid the PP's For now I am thinking of shutting off replacements for some units and put them on garrison duty.

Now to get a feel of the battle .. right now IV Ind Corps to moving to cut the North Railline to Lashio and isolate about 20K LYB while securing the Eastern Mandalay hex sides. This will mean not having to shock attack across a river. In the meantime I bought out two depleted Indian Divisions and have begun a trek to secure the Western side of the Irrawaddy River. Given the time it takes to move at 4 miles per day about 300 miles this will take until December to get into position. I suspect this map will look very different as I cannot see the IJ not bringing in at least a Corps to secure Burma.


In the meantime, I will cutoff the forces to the north and destroy them. The possibility of opening the road to China must be very alarming to the Emporor.




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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/16/2012 9:30:26 PM   
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The map below shows at least when forces will be prepped for the attack and when I think I can be ready to strike. I would like to take Jaluit and Milli sometime around the end of November with an operation that takes them at the same time. Both would be in CAP range of CV's. I have superimposed the current buildout of these atolls. It is quite possible to clean out the Marshall's by Mid June '43.

So far the Gilbert's plan has been working. Very soon Tarawa will be able to house 4E's and so will Makin. This has been always my contention that the IJ cannot build enough bases out here in the Marshall's. and the Gilberts offers enough level 5 bases to allow 4E's to rain terror on the atolls. The IJ does have two very elite fighter groups out here that will have to be managed at great cost.

But the next stage .. . the Marianas will take quite a few more Essex class carriers and cannot be taken in '43 IMHO... maybe that will be the time to engage SoPac into the Solomon's




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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/17/2012 12:23:51 AM   
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*********************************** 10 OCT 42 *******************************

The KB is hanging out just north of Eniwetok . I wonder what they are up to these days ?? There is a lot of dead space I can only see with submarines, which happend this turn ..

Ok they come looking for trouble and force the Halibut to dive away ..

ASW attack near Taihoku at 89,62

Japanese Ships
PB Nanei Maru

Allied Ships
SS Halibut


The Drayton finds a IJN submarine and puts 3 hits on her 2 critical engine hits ..

ASW attack near Tabiteuea at 138,132

Japanese Ships
SS I-166, hits 3

Allied Ships
DD Drayton
DD Cassin

SS I-166 is located by DD Drayton


The IJ are setting up for a bombardment mission on Cox's Bazzar evidenced by more contacts with a SAG 8 hexes away .. in the meantime Betty's come calling and meet thier fate as local CAP seeks revenge ..

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cox's Bazar at 54,43

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 7
Hurricane IIc Trop x 18
Kittyhawk I x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed


FLT Sanders, J.G. of No.615 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 2

WO Bedford, A.W. of No.135 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 3
WO Bedford, A.W. of No.135 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 4

FO Greenwell M. of No.135 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 7

WO Davis, F.W.T. of No.136 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 3
WO Wilding, F.E. of No.136 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 4
O Bunting, K. of No.136 Sqn RAF is credited with kill number 4


No Allied losses

Allied Ships
KV Jasmine


This has to smart a bit .. this would leave very few Betty's here until he builds more ..It says here 5 kills but only one damaged Betty tried to attack out of 9 ..

INTEL:
2/138th Infantry Regiment is loaded on a Ansyu-C Cargo class xAK moving to Singapore.

I am going to assume these guys are headed to Burma through the long way or .. are joining up with the parent ..

Ok more later ..

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/17/2012 6:05:42 PM   
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Don't know if you really need to take more than a base or two in the Marshals. If you have Wake, then take Kusaie Island and Ponape then you pretty much can leave the rest to starve as that really will mean the end of Japanese ships moving supply to the Islands. I took Makin, Ponape, Wake, Kusaie and just ignored the rest. But that was attacking from the Solomons where I am well established.

Thing is, if your carrier force is intact then it is not a good place for Japan to risk a fight. Too far from home for that, and not really worth it.

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RE: Preparing for '43 - 3/18/2012 12:14:37 AM   
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Don't know if you really need to take more than a base or two in the Marshals. If you have Wake, then take Kusaie Island and Ponape then you pretty much can leave the rest to starve as that really will mean the end of Japanese ships moving supply to the Islands. I took Makin, Ponape, Wake, Kusaie and just ignored the rest. But that was attacking from the Solomons where I am well established.

Thing is, if your carrier force is intact then it is not a good place for Japan to risk a fight. Too far from home for that, and not really worth it.


That is my thought exactly .. 1. Not a lot of IJ bases and I am well esablished here; 2. My CV's are intact supported now by a lot of LBA; 3. I am catching stuff trying to support operations out here ..

I am thinking of taking Roi-Numur only because he has built this into a worthy base and while I am staving him Mavis' will be prowling ..




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