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RE: April Fools! - 9/23/2011 8:50:21 PM   
DOCUP


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Status: offline 		Have to admit I am not very good with tracker. What ships have you lost and sunk. Whats the AC chart look like in the game menu? Thats a good ratio you got going for air results.

doc

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RE: April Fools! Air Losses - 9/23/2011 9:01:08 PM   
Crackaces


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Status: offline 		Below shows a good picture of the air losses. The IJA bombers at the top of the list. Most of these lost flying in poor weather and missing their escort over the target. The Nates and a few Zero's and Oscars to join the list. I feel very good about the ratios at this point.




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RE: April Fools! All Ship Losses by Nation - 9/23/2011 9:14:57 PM   
Crackaces


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Status: offline 		Name Nation Sunk Date Sunk Location Sunk DevScuttledVP Tonnage Notes
CVL Ryujo IJ Navy 3/22/1942143,129 near Nikunau21in Mk 15 Torpe 181 10600
DD Oboro IJ Navy 3/22/1942144,128 near Tarawa 1000 lb SAP Bomb 8 2090
DD Shiokaze IJ Navy 3/8/194255,55 near Moulmein 21in Mk VIIc Tor 6 1552
DD Yugao IJ Navy 3/22/1942138,120 near Mili 1000 lb GP Bomb 4 910
E Shimushu IJ Navy 3/8/194255,55 near Moulmein 15in/42 BL Mk I 4 1004
DMS W-15 IJ Navy 12/27/194177,62 near Hong Kong9.2 CD Gun" 3 800
PB Fukui MaruIJ Navy 12/13/1941131,99 near Wake Isl5in CD Gun 10 2780
PB Shinko MarIJ Navy 12/27/194176,69 near Iba 4in/40 QF Mk IV 4 830
CM Shirakami IJ Navy 1/22/194268,97 near Donggala 21in Mk 10 Torpe 2 738
PB Gamitsu MaIJ Navy 12/25/194189,96 near Babeldaob21in Mk 14 Torpe 2 215
SC Ch 11 IJ Navy 2/9/194279,78 near Batangas Mk 6 Mine 2 291
TK Toen Maru IJ Navy 12/26/1941111,62 near Hamamats21in Mk 10 Torpe 3 1120
SS I-6 IJ Navy 3/16/1942106,58 near HiroshimDCT Mk IV/Mk VII 8 1900
SS I-20 IJ Navy 1/2/194297,158 near MaryboroMk XVII Mine 11 2184
SS I-22 IJ Navy 3/12/1942176,107 near Niihau 500 lb GP Bomb 11 2184
SS RO-68 IJ Navy 3/26/1942105,132 near Woodlar500 lb GP Bomb 6 988
xAK KimishimaIJ Navy 12/27/194176,69 near Iba 4in/40 QF Mk IV 9 4675
xAK Sinsyu MaIJ Navy 1/6/1942119,55 near Ominato 21in Mk 14 Torpe 7 3675
xAK Taifuku MIJ Navy 2/27/194264,101 near Madjene 21in Mk VIII Tor 7 3675
xAK Taikei MaIJ Navy 12/31/194186,68 near Orchid Is21in Mk 14 Torpe 6 2980
xAK India MarIJ Navy 3/8/194255,55 near Moulmein 21in Mk IX Torpe 10 4875
xAK Victoria IJ Navy 3/8/194255,55 near Moulmein 15in/42 BL Mk I 10 4875
xAK Seisyo MaIJ Navy 12/14/194155,73 near Kompong T53.3cm W1 Torped 10 4875
xAK Anzan MarIJ Navy 12/18/194183,66 near Takao 21in Mk 14 Torpe 7 3675
xAK Awajisan IJ Navy 12/8/194151,75 near Kota BharSunk by unknown 4 2375
xAK Gosei MarIJ Navy 3/8/194255,55 near Moulmein 15in/42 BL Mk I 7 3425
xAK Giyu MaruIJ Navy 3/8/194255,55 near Moulmein 21in Mk IX Torpe 4 2375
xAK Kuroshio IJ Navy 12/12/194153,75 near Kota Bhar45cm H1 Torpedo 7 3425
xAKL Miiko MaIJ Navy 12/10/194156,74 near Soc Trang53.3cm W1 Torped 3 2050
xAK Sakido MaIJ Navy 3/23/1942119,55 near Ominato 21in Mk 14 Torpe 7 3425
xAK Uji Maru IJ Navy 1/30/1942133,120 near Jaluit 21in Mk 14 Torpe 4 2375
xAK Yosida MaIJ Navy 3/24/1942101,63 near Tanegash53.3cm W1 Torped 7 3425
xAKL Kashi MaIJ Navy 12/12/194153,75 near Kota Bhar53.3cm W1 Torped 3 1650
xAKL Kasui MaIJ Navy 12/17/194156,74 near Soc Trang21in Mk 14 Torpe 3 1650
xAKL Fukuei MIJ Navy 12/15/194179,75 near Lingayen 155mm M1918 GPF 2 830
xAK Kinrei MaIJ Navy 1/9/194282,69 near Calayan 4in/50 Mk 9 Gun 6 2900
xAP MontevideIJ Navy 3/22/1942136,125 near Makin 1000 lb SAP Bomb 13 5830
xAP Huso MaruIJ Navy 12/17/194157,74 near Soc Trang53.3cm W1 Torped 13 5830
BB Oklahoma US Navy 12/8/1941Pearl Harbor Sunk by unknown 157 27500
BB Arizona US Navy 12/8/1941Pearl Harbor Sunk by unknown 179 31400
BB Ramillies British 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 178 31160
CL Mauritius British 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 34 8530
DD Thanet British 12/30/194171,91 near Tawi Tawi61cm Type 93 Tor 5 1087
DD Thracian British 12/18/194177,61 near Hong Kong18in Type 91 Tor 5 1087
DD Encounter British 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 6 1405
DD Jupiter British 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 7 1690
PG Isabel US Navy 12/17/1941Manila 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 710
PG Asheville US Navy 12/22/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 4 1200
PG Tulsa US Navy 12/19/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 4 1200
AS Holland US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 24 8100
AS Otus US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 33 8600
AS Canopus US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 18 5975
AV Langley US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 14cm/50 3YT 30de 16 11050
AVD Childs US Navy 12/17/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 5 1315
AVD McFarlandUS Navy 3/23/1942Baker Island 250 kg GP Bomb 5 1315
AVD William BUS Navy 12/10/194179,91 near Davao 250 kg GP Bomb 5 1315
AM Ballarat Australi 1/16/194273,113 near Lautem 18in Type 91 Tor 2 625
AM Toowoomba Australi 1/16/194273,113 near Lautem 18in Type 91 Tor 2 625
AM Finch US Navy 1/15/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 840
AM Bittern US Navy 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 840
AM Tanager US Navy 1/15/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 840
AM Quail US Navy 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 840
AM Lark US Navy 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 3 840
AM WhippoorwiUS Navy 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 840
AVP Teal US Navy 3/23/1942Baker Island 250 kg GP Bomb 3 840
SS Stingray US Navy 12/22/194158,87 near Kuching Type 95 Depth Ch 8 1449
SS Seadragon US Navy 12/25/1941Hong Kong Type 95 Depth Ch 8 1460
SS S-36 US Navy 1/26/1942Soerabaja 250 kg SAP Bomb 6 850
SS S-37 US Navy 1/26/1942Soerabaja 250 kg SAP Bomb 6 850
SS Truant British 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 10 1360
AO Pecos US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 61cm Type 93 Tor 18 6950
AO Trinity US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 61cm Type 93 Tor 20 6580
xAP RochambeaUS Navy 12/9/194175,80 near Culion 53cm Type 95 Tor 15 7300
AG Regulus US Navy 3/22/1942Baker Island 250 kg GP Bomb 12 3050
PT PT-31 US Navy 12/24/1941Manila 60 kg GP Bomb 1 35
PT PT-32 US Navy 12/22/1941Manila 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 35
PT PT-33 US Navy 12/22/1941Manila 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 35
PT PT-34 US Navy 12/22/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 1 35
PT PT-35 US Navy 12/22/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 1 35
PT PT-41 US Navy 12/21/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 1 35
PT Q-111 Philippi 12/22/1941Manila 60 kg GP Bomb 1 35
PT Q-112 Philippi 12/22/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 1 35
PT Q-113 Philippi 12/22/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 1 35
xAKL Pacific US Navy 12/22/1941209,57 near Tillamoo53cm Type 95 Tor 3 1600
xAK Steel RanUS Navy 3/4/1942204,51 near Coal Har53cm Type 95 Tor 9 4620
xAK Steel VoyUS Navy 3/9/1942Prince Rupert 53cm Type 95 Tor 9 4620
xAKL Don JoseUS Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 3 1600
xAKL SagolandUS Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 3 1600
xAKL Paz Philippi 3/20/194297,131 near Port Mor53cm Type 95 Tor 2 1050
xAKL Kahuku US Navy 1/17/1942210,58 near Tillamoo53cm Type 95 Tor 3 1600
AKE Admiral NUS Navy 3/8/1942184,112 near Hilo 53cm Type 95 Tor 20 4990
xAK PresidentUS Navy 2/8/1942224,79 near San Clem53cm Type 95 Tor 9 4620
xAK Potter US Navy 3/5/1942167,108 near Johnsto53cm Type 95 Tor 9 4650
xAK Wind RushUS Navy 3/5/1942167,108 near Johnsto53cm Type 95 Tor 9 4650
TK Manatawny US Navy 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 61cm Type 93 Tor 15 5300
TK Esso RichmUS Navy 12/15/1941223,77 near Santa Ba53cm Type 95 Tor 30 10165
xAK Fairland US Navy 3/9/1942204,50 near Coal Har53cm Type 95 Tor 6 3050
xAK Admiral YUS Navy 3/5/1942118,143 near Ndeni 53cm Type 95 Tor 9 4620
xAKL Bisayas Philippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAK Capillo US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 61cm Type 93 Tor 9 4620
xAKL CompagniPhilippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1700
xAKL CorregidPhilippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL Dos HermPhilippi 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 12cm/45 10YT Gun 2 1050
xAKL Elcano Philippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL EscalantPhilippi 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 12.7cm/50 3YT T. 3 1700
xAK Ethel EdwUS Navy 12/9/194175,80 near Culion 53cm Type 95 Tor 10 4990
xAK Governor US Navy 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 61cm Type 93 Tor 10 4990
xAKL Kanlaon Philippi 12/19/194180,89 near Butuan 18in Type 91 Tor 2 1050
xAKL LatouchePhilippi 12/19/194180,89 near Butuan 18in Type 91 Tor 2 1050
xAKL Legazpi Philippi 12/20/194178,102 near Ternate 18in Type 91 Tor 3 1700
xAKL Luzon Philippi 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 3 1700
xAKL MagallanPhilippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL MontanesPhilippi 12/9/194179,91 near Davao 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL Palawan Philippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1700
xAKL PrincessPhilippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL SarangamPhilippi 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 14cm/50 3YT 25de 2 1050
xAK Si Kiang US Navy 12/21/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 11 5375
xAKL Taurus Philippi 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 14cm/50 3YT 25de 3 1700
xAKL Chengtu British 12/15/194162,84 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 3 1700
xAK Congella British 2/27/194247,127 near Exmouth 53cm Type 95 Tor 7 3700
xAK Fatshan British 12/14/194173,83 near Puerto Pr250 kg SAP Bomb 5 2750
xAK Gandara British 3/14/194229,50 near Koggala 250 kg SAP Bomb 7 3700
xAP Haiyang British 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 5 1700
xAK Hanyang British 12/16/194181,95 near Talaud-ei18in Type 91 Tor 5 2750
xAK Hinsang British 12/11/194176,78 near Busuanga 18in Type 91 Tor 8 4220
xAKL Ipoh British 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL Joan MolBritish 12/15/194162,84 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 3 1700
xAKL Kanchow British 12/15/194162,84 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 3 1700
xAP Kwai SangBritish 3/14/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 5 1700
xAKL Nam YongBritish 3/13/194231,51 near Koggala 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAK Nanning British 12/16/194181,95 near Talaud-ei18in Type 91 Tor 5 2750
xAK Ping Wo British 1/15/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAKL Soochow British 12/15/194162,84 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 3 1700
xAK Taiyuan British 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAK Tantalus British 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 61cm Type 93 Tor 12 6100
xAKL Wear British 3/13/194231,51 near Koggala 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAK Wing SangBritish 12/9/194149,74 near Georgetow18in Type 91 Tor 7 3700
xAK Wulin British 1/15/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAKL Yat ShinBritish 12/16/194181,95 near Talaud-ei18in Type 91 Tor 3 1700
xAK Yu Sang British 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 61cm Type 93 Tor 7 3700
xAK Dardanus British 12/31/1941180,108 near Pearl H53cm Type 95 Tor 7 3700
xAK Munlock British 12/11/194176,78 near Busuanga 18in Type 91 Tor 8 4220
xAK JalapalakBritish 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAKL JalataraBritish 3/13/194231,51 near Koggala 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL Kalgan British 3/13/194231,51 near Koggala 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAP Hong SianBritish 12/9/194149,74 near Georgetow18in Type 91 Tor 7 3330
xAP Kota TjanDutch 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 14 6280
xAKL LematangDutch 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 1700
xAK Liran Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAKL MeroendoDutch 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 1700
xAKL Patris Dutch 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 1700
xAKL SchoutenDutch 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL Siaoe Dutch 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL SiberoetDutch 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL Sibolga Dutch 3/14/194228,47 near Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL SilindoeDutch 3/14/194228,47 near Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1700
xAKL Halldor Commonwe 12/15/194162,84 near Miri 12.7cm/50 3YT T. 2 1050
xAK HaraldsvaCommonwe 12/16/194181,95 near Talaud-ei18in Type 91 Tor 5 2750
xAK Ravnaas Commonwe 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 61cm Type 93 Tor 5 2750
xAK Hai Lee Commonwe 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 7 3700
xAP Sarpen Commonwe 3/14/1942Colombo 800 kg AP Bomb 5 1700
KV Genista British 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 4 900
AVP Arend Dutch 3/18/194297,131 near Port Mor53cm Type 95 Tor 3 1020
AMc Merbabo Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 80
AMc Rindjani Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 80
AMc Smeroe Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 80
AMc Merapi Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 80
AMc Ardjoeno Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 75
AMc Kawi Dutch 2/8/1942Soerabaja 800 kg AP Bomb 1 75
AMc Lawoe Dutch 1/11/1942Batavia 60 kg GP Bomb 1 75
AMc Gedeh Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 75
PT TM-4 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-5 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-6 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-7 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-8 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-9 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-10 Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-11 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-12 Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-13 Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-14 Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-15 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
AMc Tjerimai Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 80
AMc Slamat Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 80
CMc Pro PatriDutch 1/21/194248,91 near Palembang12cm/45 10YT Gun 2 537
AM Jan van AmDutch 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 2 450
AM Pieter de Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 450
AM Abraham CrDutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 450
AM Eland DuboDutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 450
AS Janssens Dutch 1/11/1942Batavia 60 kg GP Bomb 7 1700
CM Kung Wo British 1/16/194273,113 near Lautem 250 kg SAP Bomb 8 3700
AVP Poolster Dutch 1/15/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 4 1565
AVP Pollux Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1020
AGP Wega Dutch 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1020
AGP Sirius Dutch 1/15/194276,124 near Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1020
AGP AldebaranDutch 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1020
AGP Eridanus Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 1020
PC Zeeman Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 700
AG Canopus Dutch 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 3 700
AVP BellatrixDutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 700
AG Deneb Dutch 1/11/1942Batavia 60 kg GP Bomb 3 700
AG Albatros Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 700
AG Gemma Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 700
AVP Reiger Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 700
AVP Fazant Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 700
AMc MMS C Dutch 1/8/1942Batavia 60 kg GP Bomb 1 179
AMc Alor Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 131
AMc Aroe Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 131
AMc Bantam Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 131
AMc Cheribon Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 131
AMc Bogor Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 131
AMc Ceram Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 131
AR Castor Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 2 670
AMc Djember Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 175
AMc Djombang Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 175
AMc Digoel Dutch 1/8/1942Batavia 60 kg GP Bomb 1 175
AMc Djampea Dutch 1/8/1942Batavia 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 175
AMc Enggano Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 175
AMc Endeh Dutch 1/11/1942Batavia 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 175
xAP Neptuna Australi 12/19/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 8 3550
xAP Mildura Australi 12/15/194182,174 near Burnie 53cm Type 95 Tor 12 5375
xAP Murada Australi 12/15/194182,174 near Burnie 53cm Type 95 Tor 12 5375
xAK Cardross Australi 3/14/194225,51 near Koggala 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAK Corinda Australi 2/24/194297,160 near Brisbane53cm Type 95 Tor 8 4220
xAK Cycle Australi 2/24/194296,160 near Brisbane53cm Type 95 Tor 8 4220
xAK Era Australi 3/14/194225,51 near Koggala 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAK Lowana Australi 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAK Ulooloo Australi 3/21/194233,19 near Bombay 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
TK FalkefjellCommonwe 12/21/1941121,146 near Vanikor53cm Type 95 Tor 23 8150
TK Semiramis Dutch 1/23/194246,98 near Batavia 53cm Type 95 Tor 13 4610
TK ManvantaraDutch 1/22/194246,99 near Buitenzor53cm Type 95 Tor 13 4610
TK Iris Dutch 1/15/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 4 1750
TK Seirstad Commonwe 12/19/1941137,141 near Nanumea53cm Type 95 Tor 19 6850
ML No. 310 British 12/19/194150,84 near Singapore18in Type 91 Tor 1 86
ML No. 311 British 12/10/1941Singapore 250 kg GP Bomb 1 86
ML No. 362 British 2/2/1942Singapore 100 kg GP Bomb 1 86
ML No. 363 British 2/12/1942Singapore 100 kg GP Bomb 1 86
ML No. 364 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 365 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 372 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 373 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 374 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 375 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 376 British 12/30/1941Hong Kong Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 377 British 12/30/1941Hong Kong Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 388 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 389 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 432 British 1/27/1942Singapore 100 kg GP Bomb 1 86
ML No. 423 British 1/24/1942Singapore 100 kg GP Bomb 1 86
AS Platypus Australi 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 12 3476
MTB MTB 7 British 1/12/194272,58 near Pakhoi 14cm/50 3YT 25de 1 25
MTB MTB 8 British 1/17/194272,58 near Pakhoi 12cm/45 3YT Gun 1 25
MTB MTB 9 British 1/17/194272,58 near Pakhoi 12cm/45 3YT Gun 1 25
MTB MTB 11 British 2/10/194272,61 near Kwangchow12cm/45 10YT Gun 1 25
MTB MTB 12 British 2/10/194273,60 near Kwangchow12cm/45 3YT Gun 1 25
MTB MTB 26 British 1/12/194272,58 near Pakhoi 12cm/45 3YT Gun 1 25
MTB MTB 27 British 1/6/194273,60 near Kwangchow12cm/45 10YT Gun 1 25
YP YP-73 US Navy 3/9/1942172,50 near Dutch Ha53cm Type 95 Tor 2 512
YP YP-251 US Navy 1/10/1942207,52 near Victoria53cm Type 95 Tor 2 512
HDML PahalwanCommonwe 12/12/194149,74 near Georgetow18in Type 91 Tor 1 60
HDML PennigatCommonwe 12/12/194149,74 near Georgetow18in Type 91 Tor 1 60
HDML Panji Commonwe 12/12/194149,74 near Georgetow18in Type 91 Tor 1 60
HDML HDML 110Commonwe 1/15/194254,54 near Rangoon 18in Type 91 Tor 1 54
HDML HDML 110Commonwe 1/15/194254,54 near Rangoon 18in Type 91 Tor 1 54
HDML HDML 110Commonwe 1/15/194254,54 near Rangoon 18in Type 91 Tor 1 54
HDML HDML 110Commonwe 1/15/194254,54 near Rangoon 18in Type 91 Tor 1 54
HDML HDML 106British 12/19/194150,84 near Singapore18in Type 91 Tor 1 54
HDML HDML 106British 12/19/194150,84 near Singapore18in Type 91 Tor 1 54
HDML HDML 109British 1/2/1942Singapore 250 kg GP Bomb 1 54
HDML HDML 109British 1/24/1942Singapore 100 kg GP Bomb 1 54

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RE: April Fools! All Ship Losses by Nation - 9/23/2011 9:20:36 PM   
DOCUP


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Status: offline 		Nice air results you got going. Your doing good in the navy dept also. What scen are you in again.

doc

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RE: April Fools! All Ship Losses by Nation - 9/23/2011 9:59:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DOCUP

Nice air results you got going. Your doing good in the navy dept also. What scen are you in again.

doc


We are playing a Scenario #1 offshoot ...Scenario #9 Quiet China which really pertains to the AI and China Although our China is pretty quiet.

It really started turn 1 when weather caused escorts to miss and it has snowballed from there ..

My opponet has also taken some bad die rolls early. Note the USN submaine hits on full AP's the first days of December. These forces found out they could not swim and did not invade anything .. it really delayed things in Maylay ...

It will be a very tense April and then in May .. I start looking for places to push on the big bowl of jello ..

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Ocean Island - 9/25/2011 12:33:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		My opponet has decided to reinforce Ocean Island. I perceive that he is reacting to last turn his Patrol craft was shot down taking a peek at Tabeteua Island. My subs/PA reports 1 AP dropping off something. I put 4 torps into this convoy but all duds of course.

The Hornet is headed to SD and The Lady Lex is 4 days away from PH. The Saratoga is now ready at PH. The BIg E and Yorktown are down for 7 days for the 20mm refit. However, many of the CA's, CL's and DD stay in the pen for up to 28 days. These ships are critical to support any serious CVTF operation. Still I can field 2 CV's if needed.

A very interesting bad die roll disaster occured last turn:

TF 92 encounters mine field at Manila (79,77)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-17
DMS W-14, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DMS W-11

26 mines cleared



TF 92 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-17
DMS W-14, on fire, heavy damage
DMS W-11
18 mines cleared

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TF 449 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Ships
xAKL Korei Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
xAKL Suez Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
xAKL Tama Maru, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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TF 92 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-17
DMS W-11, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
28 mines cleared

So in short -- clearing the Phillipines of mines cost the IJ player 2 DMS and 3 AKL's ... Somebody's head will roll ....

I think it is far better to get an early start on the Gilberts than to get tied up in that Malaria invested sewer the Solomon's ..[Sorry Chickenboy ;) ]My position at Tabetuea below:




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April Upgrades - 9/25/2011 1:00:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Its the 3rd and I still have a lot of stuff out there to get into a port and get them upgraded. The picture below shows the delay involved after getting the ship into a proper port. Needless to say this operation will continue well into May. Hopefully I time this well so as ships leave the yard more ships will fill its place. I have focused on PH to keep ships in theater but ships are headed to SD and some will spread out to LA and SF.

I still have the West Virgina and California sitting in peerside mode at PH from the damage of December 7th. In 3 - 6 months we will have to bring these ships into the yard long enough to correct flooding issues. Then to Los Angeles to be a tourist attraction. The total time of repair is just into 1945.




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ASW Disaster - 9/25/2011 8:20:53 PM   
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I am thinking an experienced Farrguat class DD would hold their own against a submarine .. .. The USS Smith takes one for the team and the Farragut dumps a lot of explosives over water only scaring a cople of whales:


Sub attack near Baker Island at 151,134

Japanese Ships
SS I-19

Allied Ships
DD Smith, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Farragut

I have a DD at Baker Island still on fire (52) and getting worse .. that will be another DD that finds Davy Jone's locker ...

This turn we sent a BF to Attu atoll in the Alaskian chain. I will move PA forces up there to peek into Northern Japan. Dutch Harbor has a rgt coming. I also moved BF's to Tabaterua and Noumea. More moves as this week develops.

I have B-17's at Tabatuea and soon to be at Ndeni. From there they can attack Ocean Island and shake the trees a bit.

The other thing is to start staging the SS upgrades. The Radar upgrade does require a yard ...so PH it is ....




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RE: ASW Disaster - 9/26/2011 4:26:31 AM   
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RE: ASW Disaster - 9/26/2011 3:34:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Farrgut was upgraded but no radar yet... the Ellen was due as was the Smith to ASW:6 +R

However, I will go on record that this is the behavor I was expecting. Not the behavior in the "offical Version". Previous IJN submarine behaivor is watching one sail through ASW nets under detection to sink an AK or AP ...now at least IJN submarines are acting a lot more sane. In this case sinking threating DD's but not insanely increasing the risk of losing the sub. This behavior is something changed between the offical patch and q3.

I have read many AAR's. I am still in question if the KB is a force of random destruction .. like using an atomic bomb on a target? or is it a mobile airbase that supports the overall expansion of the empire? or is the KB a mobile airbase in a combined arms support of the IJA? I see it as pretty invulnerable to do any of these operations well late into 1943 unless it over extends itself.... because its only achilles heel is that IJ forces lack the ability to patrol effectively deeply into Allied held areas.

While the IJN possess the most elite force in terms of destructive airpower, the Allies possess a very capable patrol force. The Catalina is the Cadillac of patrol platforms. An example is the Cat's tracking the IJN CVL's for two turns while wondering what they had in mind, and then committing CV's once they raided Baker Island. From this experince I see the ultimate restriction on the KB is sailing somewhere detected while the USN is undetected. I have awhile to ponder this as this game will take the next couple of years.

I would say historically the IJ losing the KB at Coral Sea & Midway Battles shorten the war by a year. Its a year that if modeled in the game results in a Japanese victory. I sense the Baker Island will result in much more deliberate use of the KB, rather than the historical reaction of Coral Sea, which was more agression.

I do find it intersting that in reading the AAR's that it is a common reaction when the Allies do get a swipe in that the IJ player reacts with undue haste and agression. I have yet to read an AAR in which the IJ player assumes a defensive position within their LOC with the plan of lasting until 1946. I sense from the Allied side that this will be one of those games.

More later .. this turn is all about putting base forces into positions and moving B-17's eventually to Ndeni with Fighters on the others adject two atolls ... with Ndeni almost a level 4 base its time to start thinking about establising those bases. In addition, I will move the B-26's From Ndeni to Tabeturea once that base gets level 3 status.

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Prome 05 APR 1942 - 9/26/2011 7:13:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I way underestimated the speed of the IJA. With a 5 day headstart he is already ontop of Prome. I have a Bde in defense but I sense my forces reteating to Akyab are in deep trouble. I have set loose 3 Brit LB squadrons totaling 40 bombers to ground attack the forces in Prome. My hope is some disrupted squads that in this mosquito infested part of the world will start draining the IJ supplies and ability to pursue.

Elsewhere in the world severe storms prevented a port attack on Ocean Island.

The IJN/AF demonstrated thier ability to sink ships as 13 Nells and 15 zeros proceeded into PM and drop Torps on my 2 AKL's resupplying the beleaguered outpost. Now we have 30 fighters on CAP (The RAF did not launch?) and should be able to put up a better fight:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
G3M2 Nell x 13



Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 7


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAKL Anakan, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Pulganbar, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Here too B-24's are planned to ground attack forces moving on PM. Every disabled squad will have trouble recovering and dealing with mosquito's .. in fact I think the little critters are far more deadly than the RAF bombers

The upgrades continue progress. The CA's take the longest andyet these ships are critical to any CVTF ...more delays in getting pressure to the IJ ..




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Patrol Aircraft - 9/26/2011 7:23:49 PM   
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The IJ have three well establsihed bases in the Marshalls and th3 20 hex range must be a huge consideration in attacking the Gilberts. I beleive he is looking to station Mavis PA's at Ocean Island and has moved support personnel to make that happen. That means a 10 hex warning on my side of Tabeteua along with notification of any ships in Tabeteua .. this makes Ocean Island a target




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Port Moesby & Prome - 9/27/2011 3:27:43 PM   
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
G3M2 Nell x 24



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 7
P-39D Airacobra x 6


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 8 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
APD McKean
APD Colhoun
APD Waters
APD Stringham, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
APD Manley, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
G3M2 Nell x 22



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 4


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
APD Colhoun
APD McKean, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk



So ... 2 Nelly's and 3 Zero's for 3 APD's is not a very good trade I am not sure how many of the damaged Nell's made it back or crashed. I will find out next turn.

Now on to Prome. The game has a funny algorithum when it comes to retreating. I am on the move toward Akyab and the IJA is crossing into Prome. My guys retreat to the worse postion to ensure they are cutoff The troops are not as precious as the Base Forces and Aviation support. In counter I will amphib land on Akyab D-Day -2 days wiht a 221 BF. That will allow the basing of aircraft within the sphere of operations again and begin attriting his Oscars.

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Metrics - 9/27/2011 4:51:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		During the Vietnam war Robert McNamara proposed "Body Count" as a metric of success. The thought is that it is measurable and eventually if all the NVA/VC could be accounted for as dead . the war would be won. The FOW and airwar kills in WitP AE follows the very same logic. I admit I got caught up in GreyJoy's thread, but GreyJoy has an excellent point -- in his case no matter how many air kills are reported he still cannot stop the IJAAF from sweeping and controlling the skies at critical points in time. In my case, despite all the reported "kills" the number of Nell's has increased in the PM theater from 13 on APR 5th -- to 24 on APR 6th. Most of all, the probability of shipping arriving safely and offloading at Port Moesby is less that 1:10. Despite the inervention of 3 squadrons and the awarding of 3 aces .. the fanfare has not turned this tide.

Though my commanders report 2:1 air loss superoirity I have to ask .. do we command the air? This is the point in which we can measure the pressure on the IJ forces. Number of IJ missions that fail to achieve mission objective, and the operational defintion of success is the number of FT's that make it to PM and back, and it is not the numbers of airplanes we shoot down.

More later today as we strategically move more assets into the New Calodonia theater. Here is where some B-17's can slow the IJ advance.



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RE: Metrics - 9/27/2011 10:59:54 PM   
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The Skys over Magwe - 9/28/2011 3:18:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have decided to engage the 1st and 2nd IJA Raiding Regiments. They are moving in the open and the only proper way to greet these gentlemen is with 250lb GP bombs. I wonder what the 3 Nates said greeting 76 Hurricanes ..

Morning Air attack on 1st Raiding Regiment, at 58,48 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 3



Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 11
Blenheim IV x 33
Hurricane I Trop x 16
Hurricane IIa Trop x 16
Hurricane IIb Trop x 45


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled

The one damaged Blenheim did not make it home ....

The second attack had to fight their way in but bagged 4 nates ..

Morning Air attack on 1st Raiding Regiment, at 58,48 , near Magwe

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 24



Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 9
Hurricane IIb Trop x 13


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson IIIa: 1 damaged

This turn is one of moving more BF's from the west coast to PH and BF's from PH to Ndemi. We will take this month to keep building our airbases and I predict 5 P-40 squadrons will be ready for service at these bases.

As far as INtel I have 10 reports like this:

PBY-5A Catalina reports oil slick at 179, 106 near Lihu

It might be worth sending a ASW force to check out if this submarine has been disabled or not.

The below report is disconcerting .. I was planning to move forces via amphib to Akyab ... I wish I knew if this is a sub float plane?, a Mavis? or something more ominious like a mini-KB or SCTF ..

HDML 1104 shadowed by Japanese Aircraft at 55,41 near Chittagong

More tommorrow as this develops ..

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The Dutch Revenge! - 9/28/2011 11:51:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		The B-25's at Soerabaja are set for Naval Attack and I have forgotten them .. most turns I lose 2 or 3 to flak with no results .. but Today the Dutch hit home!

Morning Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 57,102

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PB Teibo Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Syoyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
PB Yahonui Maru


The Syoyo Maru is one of the big Tankers that was full of fuel whne the Dutch struck ..The loss of the Tanker with Fuel is a victory of mention. I suspect the KB or a lot of LBA is headed this way.

Otherwise forces continue to either move to a port or is in port getting that "+R" so key to ASW and CAP.

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Fighter Sweeps - 9/29/2011 4:16:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		The advantage of High sweeps vs. a CAP is absoutely devastating. I have experinced pilots 4 ACES in these groups. Well I used to have 4 Aces. They came from 22K feet and wiped both squadrons out over PM. It a game. It is clear to me that developers are neither pilots nor do they understand air combat. My mistake was to continue to beleive my opponet would stay below 18K.

Here we have an unexpeirnced zero squadron 1:2 vs. experinced squadrons:

Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 11
P-39D Airacobra x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed


With write offs the squadrons are wiped out.

GreyJoy is experincing the same problem right now in his game. Superior numbers is key. Enough planes to fly above the sweeping fighters and still have planes to attack low flying bombers and escorts. I have to keep reminding myself its just a game Its just a game ... Its just a game ..

Ok one piece of good news ..I-26 attempted to mine Molokai but instead was greeted appropriately by one of my mines:

TF 476 encounters mine field at Molokai (181,108)

Japanese Ships
SS I-26, Mine hits 1, on fire


She might limp back home unless I can drop some DC's on her and extend the damage. Then again she is on fire ...

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RE: Fighter Sweeps - 9/29/2011 4:36:19 PM   
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Submarines & PH - 9/29/2011 5:31:28 PM   
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You will get your Aces back and then some buddy.  Nice job on the tanker and sub.  It feels so good to nail a sub.  Keep the faith.

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One nice thing about Pearl Harbor ... its far from home for SS I-26 and I have DD's ready to pounce. If she is indeed a cripple I will put ASW air and ASW naval on top of I-26 this turn. I need to finish her off for good.

One other thing to add for last turn -- The Dutch Rise again!:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 64,97

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 8


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAP Argentina Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DMS W-1

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Probably a IJA base force that is going down with this ship ...

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Ground Attack Experiment - 9/30/2011 12:13:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok we decided if straffing a unit in the open will produce anything .. and we laid the wood on teh 1st Rading RGt:

orning Air attack on 1st Raiding Regiment, at 58,47 (Meiktila)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 4,100 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 10



Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 39


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 5 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
14 x H81-A3 bombing from 100 feet
24 x H81-A3 bombing from 100 feet

..........................

Afternoon Air attack on 1st Raiding Regiment, at 58,47 (Meiktila)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 4



Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 11
Blenheim IV x 19
Hudson IIIa x 12
Hurricane IIb Trop x 43


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled


The 2nd Raiding Rgt get a dose of hell ..

Afternoon Air attack on 2nd Raiding Regiment, at 58,47 (Meiktila)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 2



Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 16
Hurricane I Trop x 13


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
118 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled



Lesson .. no more strafing ;)

More later ..

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RE: Fighter Sweeps - 9/30/2011 12:24:24 AM   
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The advantage of High sweeps vs. a CAP is absoutely devastating. I have experinced pilots 4 ACES in these groups. Well I used to have 4 Aces. They came from 22K feet and wiped both squadrons out over PM. It a game. It is clear to me that developers are neither pilots nor do they understand air combat. My mistake was to continue to beleive my opponet would stay below 18K.

Here we have an unexpeirnced zero squadron 1:2 vs. experinced squadrons:

Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11



Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 11
P-39D Airacobra x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed


With write offs the squadrons are wiped out.

GreyJoy is experincing the same problem right now in his game. Superior numbers is key. Enough planes to fly above the sweeping fighters and still have planes to attack low flying bombers and escorts. I have to keep reminding myself its just a game Its just a game ... Its just a game ..

Ok one piece of good news ..I-26 attempted to mine Molokai but instead was greeted appropriately by one of my mines:

TF 476 encounters mine field at Molokai (181,108)

Japanese Ships
SS I-26, Mine hits 1, on fire


She might limp back home unless I can drop some DC's on her and extend the damage. Then again she is on fire ...



If i may...

22k isn't anything near an "high alt" sweep. If they arrive at an higher altitude they have all the energy advantage they need to dive on your heavier fighters and wipe them out.
Early Kitti and P-39s are easy preys for zeros in an energy advantage situation.
Add to that that probably his pilots are still the "crack" ones and you will never be able to win that match...not on those circumstances.
My advice is to keep the P-39s below 10k, where they still have a decent mvr, whil use the P-40s at 15 or 20k...you should also have a a F4F unit flying at an higher alt (30k maybe)...so that the zeros will be forced to come down in order to engage your P-39s thus creating the conditions for your higher planes to counter-dive on them.

Anyway, just be ready for a long, terrible struggle in the air for the whole 1942...You will fly inferior planes till 1943...so your're gonna lose most of the engagements...but preserve your pilots. Try to force the fights above friendly bases and, sooner than later, quality will become an issue in the final outcome of aerial battles...but be patient

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RE: Fighter Sweeps - 10/1/2011 3:25:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Excellent Advice Grey Joy. I will pull out these forces this turn and let him have the skies of PM. I think that is better than taking 5:1 kill ratios and complelty wiping out three squadrons. A look at this AAR and I did quite well vs. his Zero's as escorts, but the game gives quite an advantage to zeros in sweeping maneuvers. Now he is killing me and it is time to fly to better nests at Carnes.


On different front we are getting the upper hand. I have been bombing the 1st and 2nd Raider rgts continually for 5 days now:

Morning Air attack on 2nd Raiding Regiment, at 58,47 (Meiktila)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 28
Blenheim I x 11
Blenheim IV x 51
Hudson IIIa x 12
Hurricane IIb Trop x 36


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled


There are about 4K troops in the hex and we have inflicted 500~ casualites over 5 days. That would be 25% attrition from the air. I think this is enough that these forces cannot take Mandalay as it sits now. I beleive the IJ player agrees and is repsonding:


Imperial Guards/B Division is loaded on xAP Keihuku Maru moving to Rangoon.

There is an opporunity if this ship is headed for Ragoon.

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Air War Update: Turn #125 A2A - 10/1/2011 3:47:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		The picture below shows an update on air war losses. Again, I am not using this as a metric of success. First, in reading AAR's the FOW seems to always provide about a 2:1 loss ratio. I am not buying this .... but ... I have sorted things by A2A kills and many more IJAAF / IJNAF model types are at the top.

Ther previous post however as demonstrated my opponent has gotten smarter about the tatics. He is executing sweeps using better pilots and better altitudes having the lower skilled pilots escort. I have to adjsut to this change in the flow.

The really good news is that this is Scenario #1 vs. the hell that GreyJoy is contending with [and quite well I might add! ], which is a Scenario #2 situation. The IJ begin with more of everything and are much better prepared starting turn one, and a reason the IJ player might take India whereas this is a much easier problem in Scenrario #1.




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California and West Virginia - 10/1/2011 4:18:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		The California and West Virginia are still severely damaged from Pearl Harbor Day and sit on peerside fixing systems and engine damage. But the main floatation damage of 76 on both are all major damage. That means time in the pen. The real challange is getting them to the West Coast because I have no intention of using this critical reosurce at PH for two pre-war BB's. But again it would be nice if I could fix this relics. It is quite possible in Los Angeles to have both of these ships in theater December 1943 & December 1944 respectively.

Now how much floatation damage is the maximum tolerable to make a twenty day jouney to LA? [Rigth now major engine damage has them reduced to 6 knts] That is the question. Because any fixing of floation requires the yard and there is no space. I will look for feedback on this... I am thinking less than 50% ...There is the possibility of low priority and being in the yard but I see that overstacking yardwork in general ,even if you prioritize ships, seems to effect the highest priorities.

Ok more later ...

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April's Gifts - 10/2/2011 1:10:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		First and foremost .. I want to recognize Cap Mandrake and Spurior's thread ... I get a laugh a minute with their wit. Even if they are making all the stuff up

They have a thought that dramtizes this game very well. Its about a carrier smash up and either exclaiming victory and crying the agonies of SCLS. [Sudden Carrier Loss Syndrome coined by Cribtop]. A big surface action, losing a sub or DD to ASW warfare, a raid that scoops up some shipping .. then the continual air battles. This update follows this pattern.

First the Dutch have a say taking revenge for the IJ rudeness in the DEI:

Submarine attack near Tokara Retto at 99,63

Japanese Ships
xAK Tenryu Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS O23



xAK Tenryu Maru is sighted by SS O23
SS O23 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Tenryu Maru

The USN might be having torp fuse problems but the Dutch know how to sink a merchant ...

What I have been doing at SF is stationing YP's where he has parked a sub. Every once in awhile it fires a torp or two .. enough times and its back home and out of my way. Today we decided to park DD's nearby ...

ASW attack near San Francisco at 217,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-29

Allied Ships
YP-116
YP-114



SS I-29 is located by YP-116
I-29 diving deep ....
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near San Francisco at 217,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-29, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Meredith
DD Grayson


One thing Combat Reports doe snot report the little messages that the animation provides .. in this case .. "Hull Penetration" "Flooding" I am assuming this is not good as a sub deep diving ..and may involve drowning.

You might ask whats going on in the rest of the world. The IJ player is walking through Java like a cake walk. I cannot and will not fight there. But Burma is a different story. This is shaping up into a fine front.

More later ..

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RE: April's Gifts - 10/2/2011 4:17:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice work your sub work.  Place a few subs around Rangoon or in the straights between Malaya and DEI.  Now don't talk down about the West Virginia.  Shes a good ol lady.

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RE: April's Gifts - 10/2/2011 3:32:05 PM   
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Nice work your sub work.  Place a few subs around Rangoon or in the straights between Malaya and DEI.  Now don't talk down about the West Virginia.  Shes a good ol lady.

doc


No disparagement of the West Virgina .. I am figuring how to get her into the war before its over

Hmmm I have done the straits thing .with quite a bit of effecrtiveness as you suggest, one bad thing in this game is if a submarine suffers a penality in shallow waters and if intercepted by the escorts have a much higher possibility of not seeing port again. The first two USN subs lost were in the Shallow waters aorund DEI/Maylaya, with little chance of success [P(find sometihng) * P(Torp actaully works)]. However, to your point, I have a very specific target I want to intercept going into Ragoon I am going to risk the HMS SS Trusty to find. [Higher probablity of launching a real torp vs. the risk].

More to your point although I wish I had more submarines in the I.O. right now to do this .. I have invested in NorPac/Ph/and Solomons. The S-Class patrol the Solomons. Moving the Dutch subs to Colombo might have been smarter.

I can take some credit for placing submarines as I manually control all subs .

We took a" bad beat" on the the landing crashing thing:




Hurricane IIb Trop from No.67 Sqn RAF is damaged on landing

Hurricane IIb Trop from No.67 Sqn RAF is damaged on landing

Hurricane IIb Trop from No.67 Sqn RAF crashes on landing

Hurricane IIb Trop from No.67 Sqn RAF is damaged on landing

Hurricane IIb Trop from No.67 Sqn RAF is damaged on landing

We just lost one plane and have 4 planes to fix ... from an experience level 69 group. Either the group got into the "torpedo juice " or the Kamikazi flight training school -- "No need to learn how to land -- only crash plane" . Either way this group has been reduced by 5/16ths without firing a shot.

I was hoping to stablize Burma but acording to SigInt the IJ will looking to committ a lot more to this theater. In the meantime he sits the 1st & 2nd Raider Rgts in the open and I continue to ground attack with bombers. I have units trapped as one can see between the river and 5 IJA units in two hexes plus the forces occupying Prome. I doubt these units will ever see India again.

The Brit CVTF is only there to prevent a SAG from striking the landings as Akyab. Otherwise any IJN CV push would crush these forces of course ...




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RE: April's Gifts - 10/2/2011 5:47:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Are those 80 Hurri's on LR CAP over your CVTF? Increase some patroling in those areas and it might help spot the convoys into the area near Rangoon. He will have to ship supplys in now so maybe a CL DD raiding force lurking around Rangoon.

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RE: April's Gifts - 10/2/2011 6:47:22 PM   
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Are those 80 Hurri's on LR CAP over your CVTF? Increase some patroling in those areas and it might help spot the convoys into the area near Rangoon. He will have to ship supplys in now so maybe a CL DD raiding force lurking around Rangoon.

doc


Well I am LCAP'ing the CVTF and Akyab. He has Betty's in this area. I have comitted PBY's to search well south of Ragoon. and the CVTF has a seperate CA SAG ready to detach and raid . great minds think alike :)

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