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RE: How long to build a base? - 5/18/2012 11:43:16 PM   
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RE: How long to build a base? - 5/19/2012 3:06:53 AM   
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Another bad place for building up an airfield. Dutch Harbor. What a bear.


Which is why, IRL, the US protected Dutch Harbor by building its airbase on nearby Umnak . . .

But it was hard to ship in construction materials to Umnak, because it was a bad place to build a port.

Ah, the Aleutians.


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RE: How long to build a base? - 5/19/2012 4:56:08 AM   
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Very much appreciate your work to clarify this complex subject.

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RE: How long to build a base? - 5/21/2012 3:39:41 PM   
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Another bad place for building up an airfield. Dutch Harbor. What a bear.


Which is why, IRL, the US protected Dutch Harbor by building its airbase on nearby Umnak . . .

But it was hard to ship in construction materials to Umnak, because it was a bad place to build a port.

Ah, the Aleutians.


My thoughts exactly. Adak is a good base to build on.

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RE: How long to build a base? - 5/21/2012 4:05:33 PM   
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RE: How long to build a base? - 5/21/2012 5:15:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is a good question for you though, does the same apply to both sides? Allies always seem to be able to build faster, but that could just be due to larger numbers of mechanized (read Engineer Vehicles) Engineering units.

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RE: How long to build a base? - 6/18/2013 7:37:39 PM   
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RE: How long to build a base? - 7/17/2013 2:15:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I reopen this excellent thread because I discovered it just now through a link in the technical forum.
I thought to increase the size of a base was costly regarding supply consumption but assumption n°2 in the first post does not sustain this affirmation.
I have readen somewhere a engineer squad is using 1 supply point per phase (morning and afternoon) when building but it doesn't seem to be the case according to this thread.
Where is the truth ?

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RE: How long to build a base? - 7/18/2013 12:07:05 PM   
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RE: How long to build a base? - 7/18/2013 1:41:46 PM   
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really nice information - thanks a bundle!

enjoy the summer!
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Yes but it does'nt answer my question.

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RE: How long to build a base? - 7/18/2013 3:30:36 PM   
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really nice information - thanks a bundle!

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Yes but it does'nt answer my question.


I think the unit itself will "eat" 1 supply point per phase...is that what you were asking?

Building itself requires an entirely separate amount of supplies, as detailed in the original posts.

It is a great thread though, thanks for digging it back up.

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RE: How long to build a base? - 7/19/2013 11:46:33 PM   
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base damage repair is 'free' - no cost except for the engr unit(s) normal supply draw.

base construction costs 1 supply per day per engr point involved in construction, in addition to normal supply draw.

(1 engr squad = 1 point, 1 engr vehicle = 5 points)

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RE: How long to build a base? - 7/20/2013 8:23:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting charts here on base expansions, wondering if there any like this based on fort upgrade? Been trying to keep track of engineers and supplies on base. Some bases will need to improve port and/or airfield in order to go higher on fort upgrading due to huge supplies demand and if it exceed it would be spoilage involved. Not sure if upgrading airfields will increase supply dumps at that base, i know ports would.

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RE: How long to build a base? - 7/20/2013 8:29:24 AM   
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my best info gleaned from this forum:

base damage repair is 'free' - no cost except for the engr unit(s) normal supply draw.

base construction costs 1 supply per day per engr point involved in construction, in addition to normal supply draw.

(1 engr squad = 1 point, 1 engr vehicle = 5 points)


Thank you. This information is very useful.

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RE: How long to build a base? - 7/20/2013 2:02:45 PM   
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Not sure if upgrading airfields will increase supply dumps at that base, i know ports would.


Max supply/fuel depends on base total size AF + Port (limited up to a combined size of 8, @ combined size of 9 or larger it is unlimited).

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RE: How long to build a base? - 7/20/2013 2:55:00 PM   
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Not sure if upgrading airfields will increase supply dumps at that base, i know ports would.


Max supply/fuel depends on base total size AF + Port (limited up to a combined size of 8, @ combined size of 9 or larger it is unlimited).

I think unlimited is combined size of 8 or larger. Been that way for a long time now.

EDIT: Nope, it's combined size of 9 - I just checked in a game.

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RE: How long to build a base? - 7/20/2013 3:13:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay now i know it have both AF and Port to maximize the supply reserved, still like to know about how to deal with fort upgrades though.

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RE: How long to build a base? - 7/21/2013 1:21:30 AM   
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This gave me a headache. I could scarecely begin scanning this thread when my eyes glazed over and I passed out, my toes twitching and my chest hair curling and uncurling.  But I didn't lose consciousness before noting that Graymane did alot of work and that many posters knew exactly what he was talking about and derived a great deal of useful information from his tests.

This is why some players (moi....) will never be as good as others no matter how much experience we get.  We just don't want to delve into the game mechanics in this detail.


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RE: How long to build a base? - 11/26/2013 6:03:49 PM   
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RE: How long to build a base? - 12/27/2013 7:31:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just found this - awesome thread and thanks for all the work!

So looks like it takes 373 days and a bunch of supplies to go from 0(0) to 3(0).

New rule of thumb - no 0(0) bases to be built past size 2(0). And not many of those either!!


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RE: How long to build a base? - 4/15/2014 8:23:22 PM   
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RE: How long to build a base? - 11/10/2014 2:57:07 PM   
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RE: How long to build a base? - 11/10/2014 6:21:00 PM   
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RE: How long to build a base? - 11/11/2014 3:39:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		An important add to the construction issue is the effect of 'Cold Weather Zones', manual section 12.0.

Construction cost in the cold zone is doubled during November thru February.

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RE: How long to build a base? - 3/9/2020 4:12:45 AM   
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RE: How long to build a base? - 3/9/2020 4:11:02 PM   
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RE: How long to build a base? - 3/9/2020 6:59:02 PM   
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RE: How long to build a base? - 3/9/2020 7:10:23 PM   
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Is there a list of what size ports can rearm ships minus Aux ships?


Yes, in the manual....GP

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RE: How long to build a base? - 3/9/2020 7:56:35 PM   
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RE: How long to build a base? - 3/9/2020 10:19:40 PM   
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