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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 1/22/2013 2:44:05 PM   
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Akyab south. Flanking movement is going on. I have a small HQ unit that will move into the contested hex closeing off the east hex side. Then they will move to the south hex side and try to close that off. If he retreats I will follow and keep trying to flank him. Ramree Island is being prepped for, If I do this he will have to fall way back or be cut off and destroyed.


Personally I love this approach. Very subtile... rather than try and overwhelm AV to AV and fight a WWI contest I sense you are using the game mechanics to your advantage in that you are matching AV / firepower to pin forces in a hex while your maneuver forces penetrate deeply into the enemy LOC. Either the IJ retreat or get pinned, surrounded, and buchered .... I beleive Burma offers this opportunity unlike any other area because your defense value is also increased for his counterattacks ... a perfect stalemate within the hex while armor maneuvers [One might argue that Oz offers such an opporunity, but I contend the clear terrain of Northern Oz in my opinion means that simply matching AV results in an effective couterattack rather than pinning .. also the clear terrain opens up the 4E terror campaign combined with direct armor attacks makes the more direct approach of overwhelming fiirepower and AV a better choice ]


I like this maneuver more in the Irrawaddy Valley, only that this is going to draw the attention of the IJN. Allied forces near the coast are going to receive bombardment and at the very least get disruption .. combined with air attacks and the IJ can severely delay your maneuver and attrite your forces ...




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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 1/22/2013 7:29:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Aces:  Thanks,  I'm not a big fan of WW1,  I like to shoot, move and communicate.  I wonder why I like to do that.  I would rather do my combat in the Irrawaddy valley also, but can't at the moment.  Both Jap and Allied forces would be open to nav bombardment, but I haven't been able to do it in a non base hex.  I think I did long time ago, but have tried since the last patch and it didn't happen.  So if I can't he can't, and that takes nav bombardment out of the equation.  I would almost like to see him try and nav bombard me.  I think I could attrit his naval forces some.

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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 1/22/2013 10:13:13 PM   
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China
Japs attack my stack in the NE of China again.  We hold but not for much longer.

Burma
Akyab South.  Japs look like they are p ulling out now that I am on their right flank.  I will follow.

Solomons
Sweeps and bombings.

PH
We sink I 2.

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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 1/23/2013 9:51:41 PM   
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Burma
My AFs in the nothern part of Burma are bombed.  We bomb the stack of Jap units south of Akyab.

Solomons
MB has 2 forts now. Getting ready to move in more troops and supplies, along with finishing an AF and port.  TI some how gained a bunch of supplies this turn almost all units in the white on supplies.

Nothing much going on besides moving stuff and getting ready for whatever comes next.

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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 1/24/2013 10:21:04 PM   
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Carriers spotted NE of Kausie Island

China
Delib attack by Jap forces.

Ground combat at 89,31 (near Paotow)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17646 troops, 140 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 558

Defending force 20539 troops, 161 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 532

Japanese adjusted assault: 375

Allied adjusted defense: 270

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
     553 casualties reported
        Squads: 5 destroyed, 88 disabled
        Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 18 disabled
        Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
     Vehicles lost 40 (1 destroyed, 39 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
     536 casualties reported
        Squads: 75 destroyed, 42 disabled
        Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 50 disabled
        Engineers: 4 destroyed, 2 disabled
     Guns lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
   9th Tank Regiment
   3rd Tank Regiment
   6th Division
   2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
   13th Army

Defending units:
   17th Chinese Corps
   83rd Chinese Corps
   95th Chinese Corps
   42nd Chinese Corps
   22nd Chinese Corps
   4th Chinese Cavalry Corps

Burma
Tojos sweep Akyab south.  They down 4 P40Ks for the loss of one of their own. We will be in Shwebo tomorrow.

TI
2 Jap DDs attack and sink an xAKL, luckily they retired befor they got my troop ship.

MB
Troops are going in tomorrow with 2 small SAGs, AF and port will be finished tomorrow also. PT boats will be their also.

Tulagi
B25s hit an xAK with a 500lber.

Marshall's
I was planning a resupply mission for Maloelap and Wotje with some air support, but I 2 decided to attack my CV TFs and gave it away.  Now that carriers are in the area I will hold off.  Maybe Koniu is tired of me advancing and wants to attack the islands.  I don't know.  Supplys are low at both bases.


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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 1/25/2013 8:42:49 PM   
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Rangoon
We bomb at night and destroy 2 Nells.

Shwebo
We have entered the hex and will take it tomorrow.

MB
2 DDs sink an xAK. AF and Port are Lv 1.  150 Zero's sweep MB today.  I have flown in 84 planes overstacking the AF but have to do something.  I have 36 F4Fs (31K) 25 P40Ks (29K), and 25 P39s(5K) at the AF now.  I want to combat the sweep.  I am also moving in my resupply TFs.  1 CL SAG, 1 DD SAG, and a PT squadron will be patroling the water ways.  I have several fighter groups that can and will be rotated in and out of MB.

Kausie
We sink an xAK.

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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 1/26/2013 10:02:58 PM   
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MB
2 Jap BB SAGs ran into our shipping at MB. Combat report listed below.

Sub attack near Normanby Island at 103,133

Japanese Ships
DD Murasame, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Samidare

Allied Ships
SS KXVI

SS KXVI launches 4 torpedoes at DD Murasame
KXVI diving deep ....
DD Samidare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Samidare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Samidare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Samidare fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Samidare attacking submerged sub ....
DD Samidare is out of ASW ammo
DD Samidare is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub

Day Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,133, Range 7,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
SOC-1 Seagull: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 2
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 8, on fire
CA Mogami
DD Ayanami, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Yayoi
DD Minazuki
DD Mochizuki
DD Susuki, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CL Concord, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
DD Maury, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Cassin, Shell hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hull, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
DD Allen, Shell hits 2

Low visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 7,000 yard

Day Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,133, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 5, heavy fires
CA Mogami
DD Ayanami, heavy fires
DD Yayoi
DD Minazuki
DD Mochizuki
DD Susuki

Allied Ships
PG Warrego, Shell hits 2, on fire
PG Indus, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
PG Hindustan, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 7,000 yards

Day Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,133, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Shell hits 8
CA Mogami, Shell hits 3
DD Yayoi
DD Minazuki, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
DD O'Bannon, Shell hits 5, heavy fires
DD Waller, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Blue, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Patterson

Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 7,000 yards

This last SAG is still in the MB hex and recon shows it heading east. My PT boats did not engage and I don't like it. A6m5's sweep and escort Helens to MB. Our CAP do a great job. 63 Zeros shot down or forced to crash along with 14 Helens. We lose7 F4Fs, 7 P40Ks, and 6 P39s. A squadron of P38s sweep Rangoon and get tore up 12 are lost. Most of my CAP is damaged and can't fly out. I'm not for sure if I should bring more in, like I had planned. I have 35 operational with 6 more that might be able to fly tomorrow.

My amphib TF is safe one hex away from MB. They will withdraw for a few hexs then try and go back in later. I need the aviation support at MB now. I didn't see his SAGs on nav search. But I am happy how my ships performed. CL Concord did a great job before she went down. I hope my subs get some chances at the wounded ships.

I don't think Koniu can do this for more than a few more days. The morale of his pilots has to be low now and in a few more days they should be easy pickings for my fresh pilots.

Overall not a bad day, I wished my PT boats would have gotten into the fight and my P38s would of performed better but oh well.

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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 1/28/2013 9:20:17 PM   
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China
Delib attack again this time we take alot more casualties than the Japs.

Rangoon
We hit 2 xAKs from the air.

N Oz
Bettys and Nells sink 7 xAKs returning to from a resupply mission to Derby.

Christmas Island IO
Small troop TF is unloading.  I heard about his from my intel.  I have a small SAG that should go in on the next turn.

Solomons
Quiet.

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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 1/29/2013 12:50:12 PM   
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China
Bombed. 

Shwebo
I am having trouble getting supplies to this base now.  Aces how did you do it in your game?

Christmas Island IO
Our SAG attacks the transports unloading supplies and sinks all 6 AKs.


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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 1/29/2013 10:57:43 PM   
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China
Bombed.  Japs shock attack my outpost in the NE and force the chinese troops to retreat.  These brave soldiers fought hard.

Burma
Troops at Shwebo are still without supplies.

Solomons
Troops and supplies unload at MB and TI.  I don't know why he hasn't tried to attack them again.  Everyday I get stronger. 

NE coast of Oz
Subs sink 2 tankers and an xAK.

Thoughts
I am prepareing for the next offensive invasion.  I haven't decided if I will wait for Hellcats or not.  I want to strike as soon as possible but I also like what you guys are saying about waiting till I get them.

I am not sure why my supplies are not flowing to Shwebo.  I am pushing them south.

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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 1/30/2013 3:04:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have reread the posts that my generals have posted.  I have decided to wait till I have Hellcats.  I will keep getting my stuff set up and ready for my op.  I am also getting stuff ready for my next ops.  Thanks guys.

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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 1/30/2013 8:24:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think its the right call! Not that far off from the Hellcats anyway. And they will make a ton of difference. Even using very green pilots I have had no problems with Zeroes at all and even do well against Georges.


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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 2/1/2013 1:34:03 AM   
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Burma
The stack of Jap units south of Akyab has moved 1 hex south.  Still trying to get supplies to Shwebo.

MB
Koniu sends a BB, CA, and 3 DDs to attack my transports.  He meets CL Cleveland and 3 DDs during the day time.  We lose a DD he has on DD with Heavy damage and fires and another with heavy fires. BB and CA both took 6 in hits and the CA collided with a DD.  Cleveland took a few hits but no major damage.  God those modern CLs are good ships.  Troops and supplies are ashore so transports will head back to Oz.  TI has a USN BF and enought supplies to support fighters.

The rest of the world is quiet.

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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 2/1/2013 6:35:18 AM   
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God those modern CLs are good ships. 



They are indeed!

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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 2/1/2013 9:49:07 PM   
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Sian
Bombed

Shwebo
Bombed.  Koniu loses about 10 bombers with another 20 plus damaged.  AF is fine supplies didn't drop so some must be getting their.

Rangoon
I see 2 SAGs, one of them looks like they might make a run up the coast.  I don't know if its a bombardment run or what.  I have TBs and DBs on alert.  Also have a SAG close by just need to guess the right target for this TF. 

Solomons
Night bombing at MB no hits. I did hear a ship sinking wonder what sunk.  It wasn't one of mine maybe one of the 2 DDs that took a beating the other day. I know one is still afloat a Dutch sub took a shot at it and missed.

Makin
2 different TFs are present at this base.  One looks like a SAG.

Adak
3 subs patroling off of this base.

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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 2/1/2013 11:01:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I love this game. It is so much fun.  Even when I'm getting my arse kicked.  I think I'm crazy I want to start another game a modded what if game but still want another.

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RE: Milne Bay invaded - 2/1/2013 11:40:43 PM   
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I love this game. It is so much fun.  Even when I'm getting my arse kicked.  I think I'm crazy I want to start another game a modded what if game but still want another.

+1 !
I have been having so much fun playing what-ifs that I have no great desire to go against another player yet. Don't want to disappoint them with my wandering attention. While playing crazy scenarios, I am learning a lot about what happens in certain situations and what the strengths and weaknesses of various units are. E.G. I started out thinking the old US BBs could demolish the Japanese CAs and DDs easily ... until they got their anchors and screws handed to them! Leader changes and lots of training[ patrols and bombardments] + radar upgrades made them a credible force.


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What If - 2/2/2013 12:28:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		BB:  You are right about the old BBs.  If it wasn't for the LL TTs they wouldn't be to bad early in the game but the LL will cream them everytime.   So what what ifs have you been modding in your games.  I'm always looking for something new.  Even though I need to play my what if againist the AI.  I think I will start it monday.

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RE: What If - 2/2/2013 12:36:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I myself have upgraded the Colorado Class, added a few cruisers and DDs keep the US up with treaty limits.  P39s kept the superchargers.  Moved up the Alaskas and added the Montana.  Plus som other stuff.

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RE: What If - 2/2/2013 4:49:46 AM   
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I myself have upgraded the Colorado Class, added a few cruisers and DDs keep the US up with treaty limits.  P39s kept the superchargers.  Moved up the Alaskas and added the Montana.  Plus som other stuff.

Awesome! I have not played with the database yet, but some of the things I wanted to see in play were:

No surprise attack
Premise - the US codebreakers break the code and are able to read the Japanese plans at 5 AM Dec. 7th.
Orders given: Every unit is warned and mobilized. Sailors and airmen are rousted out of the bars. Subs stream out of PH seeking the enemy carriers, two TFs of 4 BBs/4DDs each blast out of the port headed north at full speed, followed by several TFs of Cruisers and DDs/DMS/DMs. Minor vessels harass the subs around PH. Bombers head for the KB, fighters escort and CAP PH.
In other commands, someone persuades MacArthur to stop calling his mommy and order the bombers and subs into action, and evacuate unnecessary shipping. Force Z escapes Singapore. British aircraft stage up the Malay Peninsula to attack landings.
Results: The allies cannot sortie until after the night naval movement phase, but in the day phase the BBs and several cruiser/DD TFs find KB. The actions are brief because KB runs, but two CVs are heavily damaged and finished off next day. Two others have moderate damage that slows them a bit.
The hard-wired strike on PH finds no ships in port so it messes up the Port and Dockyard a bit. Three weeks repair. There were no strikes against the TFs attacking KB until Dec. 8th. Air attacks from PH achieved almost nothing, but a few KB aircraft were shot down. BB California was sunk as was CA San Francisco and one of the large CLs. Hiei was left in bad shape with fires.

On subsequent days the replenishment AOs were found and all sunk, KB was harassed by cruisers as it retreated toward Japan and lost two more CVs.
Lexington and Enterprise smashed the landings at Guam and sank four CLs. Philippine and British forces had some minor successes but could not stop the Japanese.

Japanese attack Russia as well as US/Britain

Premise: Japan is confident that the Russians have their hands full with Hitler attacking Moscow, so they decide the vast Russian resources in Siberia are easy pickings. They start their forces marching on Dec.7th but it takes a few days to cross the frontier. Recon flights tip off the Russians that something is brewing and they activate before the Japanese troops arrive.

Orders: Fort building begins immediately and units in the north Strat move to key areas in the south. Air units pull back from the front and begin training in low ground attack and strafing.

Results: Most Japanese assaults are shock attacks across rivers and they suffer heavily, but gain a foothold on the other side. Russian artillery is good, but Japanese bombing raises hell with disruption and supplies. The Russians are pushed back in most areas north of Voroshilov and south of Ulan Ude. The Russian DDs and most of the merchant ships escape to the north of Sakhalin and go to Petropavlovsk and then Alaska. Russian subs have working torps and Japanese ASW still sucks.


As you can see, I had to play both sides in order to orchestrate the beginning of the scenario. I did start a standard Scenario 1 against the AI but it was taking too long to get to the point where I could experiment with the things I did not know/understand about game mechanics and unit capabilities. It took me forever to figure out how to launch my first Amphib operation and, of course there were numerous errors from lack of knowledge and from eyes glazing over with all the click work.

Interested to see if you can arrange a duel between Alaska and Kongo with equal numbers of DDs. Alaska's experience stats might need to be bumped up a little as I think she spent a lot of time working up before being put into the shooting war.


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RE: What If - 2/2/2013 9:31:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		BB: The editor is actually pretty easy to mess with. I did the sorie from Pearl move and it didn't work. I haven't tried the Russia move yet. Give me a cpl days and I'll try the Alaska vs Kongo battle. I don't think the Alaska would last. If I put Fletchers in the group maybe. I would like to see the purposed BC 64 vs Alaska.

I did put the BC 64 class in my mod along with some other stuff for the Japs. I strengthed the Allies early in the war and the Japs some in the early and more in the later part. For what I have gotten done.

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Akyab
Oh crap the Yamato. Yes, the Yamato was the bombardment SAG and I guessed right. So our CA, CL, and 5 DDs go up againist 3 BBs and 4 DDs. Battle was a draw. We do lose 8 MLs. One of the BBs gets hit with a TT from HMAS Norman. She was the hero of one of the Ambon naval battles. We only lose 3 Hurri IIc's in the bombardment.

Not much else happens bunch of sub action with no hits. Koniu was not happy with the naval battle.

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RE: What If - 2/3/2013 4:32:18 PM   
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Koniu tried to sweep the base next to TI to get my leaky CAP.  He shot down 3 but we also got 3. 

Other than that nothing.

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RE: What If - 2/3/2013 5:58:31 PM   
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15th Mar

Carriers unknown

Akyab
Oh crap the Yamato. Yes, the Yamato was the bombardment SAG and I guessed right. So our CA, CL, and 5 DDs go up againist 3 BBs and 4 DDs. Battle was a draw. We do lose 8 MLs. One of the BBs gets hit with a TT from HMAS Norman. She was the hero of one of the Ambon naval battles. We only lose 3 Hurri IIc's in the bombardment.

Not much else happens bunch of sub action with no hits. Koniu was not happy with the naval battle.


Wow, sounds like you are in a bit of luck! I only seen the Yamato 2 times in my game. I´m guessing she drinks more fuel then she is worth!



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RE: What If - 2/4/2013 3:16:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here you go BB.  I ran this several times and it always ends up about a tie.  All the DDs are around the mid 43 time frame on upgrades and such.  The Alaskas guns will penetrate Kongo at close range.  I was suprised to see that.  If the DDs would shoot their TTs at the big ships instead of the other DDs, you might see a different result.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Ulak Island at 161,69, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
     BB Kongo, Shell hits 4
     DD Akizuki, Shell hits 1
     DD Teruzuki, Shell hits 2,  on fire
     DD Susuzuki, Shell hits 1
     DD Hatsuzuki, Shell hits 1
     DD Niizuki

Allied Ships
     CB Alaska, Shell hits 4
     DD Fletcher
     DD Abbot
     DD Ammen
     DD Anthony, Shell hits 1
     DD Aulick, Shell hits 2

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 19,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 19,000 yards
CB Alaska engages BB Kongo at 19,000 yards
DD Niizuki engages CB Alaska at 19,000 yards
DD Niizuki engages DD Fletcher at 19,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
CB Alaska engages BB Kongo at 14,000 yards
DD Abbot engages DD Susuzuki at 14,000 yards
DD Fletcher engages DD Teruzuki at 14,000 yards
DD Abbot engages DD Akizuki at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards
CB Alaska engages BB Kongo at 11,000 yards
DD Niizuki engages DD Abbot at 11,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Fletcher at 11,000 yards
DD Anthony engages DD Susuzuki at 11,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Abbot at 11,000 yards
DD Susuzuki engages DD Fletcher at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
BB Kongo engages CB Alaska at 7,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Aulick at 7,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Anthony at 7,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Aulick at 7,000 yards
DD Akizuki engages DD Aulick at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 9,000 yards
CB Alaska engages BB Kongo at 9,000 yards
DD Aulick engages DD Teruzuki at 9,000 yards
DD Niizuki engages DD Anthony at 9,000 yards
DD Ammen engages DD Hatsuzuki at 9,000 yards
DD Anthony engages DD Teruzuki at 9,000 yards
DD Fletcher engages DD Akizuki at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
BB Kongo engages CB Alaska at 12,000 yards
DD Niizuki engages DD Anthony at 12,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Aulick at 12,000 yards
DD Susuzuki engages DD Ammen at 12,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Anthony at 12,000 yards
DD Anthony engages DD Akizuki at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 17,000 yards
BB Kongo engages CB Alaska at 17,000 yards
DD Aulick engages DD Teruzuki at 17,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Anthony at 17,000 yards
DD Susuzuki engages DD Abbot at 17,000 yards
DD Teruzuki engages DD Ammen at 17,000 yards
DD Aulick engages DD Akizuki at 17,000 yards
Range increases to 22,000 yards
BB Kongo engages CB Alaska at 22,000 yards
DD Niizuki engages DD Aulick at 22,000 yards
BB Kongo engages DD Anthony at 22,000 yards
CB Alaska engages DD Susuzuki at 22,000 yards
CB Alaska engages DD Teruzuki at 22,000 yards
Range increases to 26,000 yards
BB Kongo engages CB Alaska at 26,000 yards
CB Alaska engages DD Niizuki at 26,000 yards
CB Alaska engages DD Susuzuki at 26,000 yards
CB Alaska engages DD Teruzuki at 26,000 yards
BB Kongo engages DD Fletcher at 26,000 yards
Range increases to 30,000 yards
CB Alaska engages BB Kongo at 30,000 yards
CB Alaska engages DD Niizuki at 30,000 yards
CB Alaska engages DD Teruzuki at 30,000 yards
BB Kongo engages DD Fletcher at 30,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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RE: What If - 2/4/2013 4:20:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well that was inconclusive! Which side decided to break off the battle? What if they fought at night when ranges were closer and the US radar negates the Japanese spotting advantage? Thanks for doing that, by the way

I am not surprised that Alaska's 12" shells could penetrate at close range. They were a new model with high muzzle velocity and the US had excellent heavy AP shells.
Kongo's BC armour would have been designed to keep out 8" shells, since BCs were originally supposed to chase down cruisers such as Admiral von Spee's squadron, which raided in the Pacific throughout 1914. Armour thickness was sacrificed to get higher speed and the biggest guns available.

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RE: What If - 2/4/2013 4:32:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		BB: I ran a few of those also.  About the same results for night and day.  Breaking off,  I don't remember.   I'm about half tempted to do a Yamato vs Montana straight up fight.  I need to put the BC 64 class in my mod and I might run that one.  Your welcome by the way.

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RE: What If - 2/4/2013 6:34:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		So I forgot to send Koniu the turn yesterday.  DOHHHHHH!!! Koniu is out and can't do a turn today.  So I decided to open it up and make some changes.  I decided to see if I can mine some ports by air. I'll let you guys know how it works.

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RE: What If - 2/4/2013 6:53:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		So I have time and decided to list the damaged ships from the recent naval battles. 

CV Lexington 37 day for minor then more to get to a big enough port to fix all the major damage
CV Enterprise 53 days for all
CVE Nassau 55 for minor then to move and find a port that can fix all the major
BB Royal Sovereign 63 for minor then movement to Cape Town
BB Ramillies 17 days for minor then movement to Cape Town
Ca Portland 10 days for minor then movement to another port for major
CA Pensacola 43 days for all
CL Cleveland 57 days for minor then movement to a bigger port for major damage
CL Nashville 43 days for minor and so on
Plus numerous DDs.

I just hope that he has as many ships in the repair yards as I do.  If not he's going to start meeting my BBs in combat.

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RE: What If - 2/5/2013 9:08:54 PM   
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Carriers unknown

Not much happened.

Perth
I 25 is attacked by DD Foxhound.  12 hits and heavy damage on the sub.

Rabual
We hit an AO.  It had heavy fire when it was last seen with its fuel cargo burning.  Our sub took one good hit for putting a TT into the AO.

We mined two harbours.

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RE: What If - 2/5/2013 10:03:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		AAAAAHHHHH I have AE block.  Someone help me.  I can't see or think of any moves.

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