Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: zuluhour

I may have some time on my hands now as the emporer is doing some head scratching after the engagement below (DaBabes). Joe, you are at my favorite time of the game as Allies and I look forward to checking in more frequently ( Ive had to read as many as 6 pages backwards) and providing some support for the home team.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 18, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,134, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Shell hits 2
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 14, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 3
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Concord
CL Helena, Shell hits 1
DD Lardner, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Le Triomphant

Improved night sighting under 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 82% moonlight: 12,000 yards

I posted this combat report here on purpose to ellicit any comments. Terry is very upset with results and may discontinue the game.

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ORIGINAL: zuluhour

I may have some time on my hands now as the emporer is doing some head scratching after the engagement below (DaBabes). Joe, you are at my favorite time of the game as Allies and I look forward to checking in more frequently ( Ive had to read as many as 6 pages backwards) and providing some support for the home team.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 18, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,134, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Shell hits 2
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 14, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 3
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Concord
CL Helena, Shell hits 1
DD Lardner, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Le Triomphant

Improved night sighting under 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 82% moonlight: 12,000 yards

I posted this combat report here on purpose to ellicit any comments. Terry is very upset with results and may discontinue the game.

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ORIGINAL: Alfred


I already expressed my view regarding such an attitude in post #1046 in your previous AAR:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2884724&mpage=35

I see nothing here to change my view. No suggestion of a bug rearing its ugly head. Merely an outcome not palatable to the Japanese player.

It does take a very strong personality to play the Japanese side in any game which makes a genuine attempt to capture the respective capabilities, strengths and weaknesses of the combatants in WWII.

Playing against the AI it doesn't matter too much if the Japanese player lacks the internal fortitude to cope with setbacks. They can always redo turns or even restart, and no one will complain. Against a human Allied player, that approach is totally unacceptable. The same applies to an Allied human player who can't cope with the early defeats. The difference though is that most Allied players are buoyed by the thought that eventually they will receive the assets to reverse the results whereas too many Japanese players are drawn to playing that side because they want to blow things up in their favour and dislike being on the defensive.

Alfred

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ORIGINAL: zuluhour

I may have some time on my hands now as the emporer is doing some head scratching after the engagement below (DaBabes). Joe, you are at my favorite time of the game as Allies and I look forward to checking in more frequently ( Ive had to read as many as 6 pages backwards) and providing some support for the home team.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 18, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,134, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Shell hits 2
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 14, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 3
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Concord
CL Helena, Shell hits 1
DD Lardner, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Le Triomphant

Improved night sighting under 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 82% moonlight: 12,000 yards

I posted this combat report here on purpose to ellicit any comments. Terry is very upset with results and may discontinue the game.

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ORIGINAL: thinz2

I'd like to add a bit more to this story beyond what zuluhour has laid out. In our "daBabes" game IJN surface forces have underperformed from the outset. In July 42 a task force built around a 21 knot Royal Sovereign class battleship intercepted and disabled Zuikaku, in daylight no less, leaving her to be sunk by a small air attack layer that day. The carriers were screened by 4 CAs, a CL and half a dozen destroyers. Even my honourable opponent commented at the time that the result was almost impossible to rationalize.

In a series of surface actions since then the IJN has been virtually useless in action against allied warships. The one quoted in zuluhour's post is merely the latest. As zuluhour himself has noted in our communications, clouds of long-lances get fired but hits are never obtained. I am sure that the Allies have had high naval skill rated commanders in their TFs, but so have the Japanese, usually Tanaka.

These results did not occur in our first game, in which we used michealm's mod of the latest Matrix release. I am left wondering if the combat modifications in "daBabes" have anything to do with all this.

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ORIGINAL: thinz2

I'd like to add a bit more to this story beyond what zuluhour has laid out. In our "daBabes" game IJN surface forces have underperformed from the outset. In July 42 a task force built around a 21 knot Royal Sovereign class battleship intercepted and disabled Zuikaku, in daylight no less, leaving her to be sunk by a small air attack layer that day. The carriers were screened by 4 CAs, a CL and half a dozen destroyers. Even my honourable opponent commented at the time that the result was almost impossible to rationalize.

In a series of surface actions since then the IJN has been virtually useless in action against allied warships. The one quoted in zuluhour's post is merely the latest. As zuluhour himself has noted in our communications, clouds of long-lances get fired but hits are never obtained. I am sure that the Allies have had high naval skill rated commanders in their TFs, but so have the Japanese, usually Tanaka.

These results did not occur in our first game, in which we used michealm's mod of the latest Matrix release. I am left wondering if the combat modifications in "daBabes" have anything to do with all this.

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ORIGINAL: thinz2

... These results did not occur in our first game, in which we used michealm's mod of the latest Matrix release. I am left wondering if the combat modifications in "daBabes" have anything to do with all this.

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ORIGINAL: DOCUP

Operation "About Dam Time"

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ORIGINAL: DOCUP

Joc: I'm going to try for a hit and run

About Dam Time  continued

I've decided to go after Tabiteuea.  I'm shooting for around a 2 day unload time then running for the hills.  I think 2 IDs, Tank unit, 2 Combat ENGs, and a Naval BF should be able to take the island.

I'm pretty sure Koniu has some CVs around Truk, not for sure what ones.  I expect he would be in position to attack within 3 days or so of the TFs being spotted.  I will have around 310 fighters (144 Hellcats), 96 DBs, 66 TBs on my CVs.  Plus alot of surface fleet assets.

I will launch B 25s from Ndeni to hit the AF on D-1.  I am thinking of sending up a small SAG to bombard Tarawa also.  I am also thinking of sending a dummy invasion fleet at PM a few days before my real fleet is expected to be spotted.