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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/16/2011 6:32:36 PM   
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Have I said how much fun this game is.  Now if Koniu can only get the turn back to me before he goes to bed.  Mulit turns in one day.  Love it.  No turn in my inbox hate it.

Terminus Jr seems to agree with me that some action will come my way.  Lets hope its not a hairy wait a min this is a family forum. 

So my thoughts before I leave to go eat.  I bet he uses his LBA to cover the Wake landing.  Yea, I know no fighters but he can have bombers.  I hope my CL TF can get into his and wreck havoc.  But that will be in 2 days atleast. 

I'm a lil worried about the landings around Rabaul.  I bet the KB is close by. 

Speak up

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/17/2011 1:27:50 AM   
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KB location unknown.
Mini KB North of Rabual!!!!!!

PI
Nothing at all

Singers
Delib attack cost him 3,500 and me 2,400.  Forts are 2 now.  I don't think Singers will last long.  I have hurt him pretty bad.  He has lost over 14,400 men.  My flak is damaging alot of his planes. 

DEI
A Dutch sub sank an AP at Ternate. She took 7 hits for her good deed.  She will need some yard time.  I will sortie my Banshee's after them, if they are still there. 

SoPac
My CA TF fought off an air attack from what I think is the Mini KB.  No hits on my guys.  He is moving towards Rabaul. 

NoPac
Wake nothing, the TF of APs turned west towards Marcus Is.  I am going to have my CL TF head that way.  I have 13 P40B's 2 days out and 3 days out is a CD unit.  It also has 86 mines with an ACM 1 day out.

Hilo
AK Castor was sunk by a sub.  Another sub put a TT into a tanker.  Looks like I will have to fine another route out of PH. 

Hmm.  Now what?  My ships around Rabual will withdraw and wait for oppurtunities to strike.  I don't have subs in the area yet.  I am moving some to the area.  Also need some fuel down this way and the TF is on it's way.  AS is already in the AO.  I know what your thinking, why don't you have subs down here.  I lost 13 at Manila. 

I am trying to get one of the RAF HQs down towards Ambon with some TT bombers.  Won't they be a nice party crashers.  That is if he dosen't have CAP. 

The Big E will be in the yard for 27 more days as will the Wee Vee.  Right now I am trying to get 25 P39s to replace the sqd with 25 Mohawks at PH.  With those 25 Mohawks, I will replace the 20 P38s back CONUS. Then work my way to get the others as time and planes are right. 


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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/17/2011 4:41:59 AM   
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Question guys.

I have an AK that can be converted to a AE but without radar.  In my AI games I just waited for the radar.  If I convert to this early AE can I convert to the one with radar later.  I don't have my manual infront of me to rearm 16 in guns you need an AE over 5400 right. 

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/17/2011 4:54:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DOCUP

Question guys.

I have an AK that can be converted to a AE but without radar.  In my AI games I just waited for the radar.  If I convert to this early AE can I convert to the one with radar later.  I don't have my manual infront of me to rearm 16 in guns you need an AE over 5400 right. 


Not neccesarily.

<turns off inner Termy mode>

The 16/50 Mk7 has a rearm cost of 5400. The 16/45 Mk5 cost is "only" 4480. The other smaller rifles are less than 3900.

I'm intrigued as to why you attach any value to having radar on a non-combat ship.

In your preceding post you commented on waiting to have sufficient P-39 to effect upgrades. You don't have to wait. A squadron which is scheduled to be withdrawn can only have a change of airframe model if the full TOE of the new model is already in the pools. However for squadrons which are not scheduled to be withdrawn, you can manually changeover provided you have a single airframe in the pools.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/17/2011 7:04:42 AM   
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Alfred,

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In your preceding post you commented on waiting to have sufficient P-39 to effect upgrades. You don't have to wait. A squadron which is scheduled to be withdrawn can only have a change of airframe model if the full TOE of the new model is already in the pools. However for squadrons which are not scheduled to be withdrawn, you can manually changeover provided you have a single airframe in the pools.
Alfred


I think this depends on the patch you are using.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/17/2011 5:27:37 PM   
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Alfred thank you for educating me some more.  I have to admit I am one of those players who dosent read the manual and just jumps into a game.  I did not know that sqds who didn't withdraw could be upgraded with just one plane.  Yes.  My thinking Alfred is any ship with radar is better, but I did go ahead and convert those ships to AE's and I see that they can still upgrade to radar down the road.  Thanks for mentioning the Rearm numbers also.  You the man Alfred.

So I will soon have 20 P38s in my replacement list.  I will also be sending some P40Bs to the AVG units to fill them back out. 

China is startting to get hot.  Picture below is of KuKong.  It has 2 forts and 88% to the 3rd one.  AV is 1150.  He has the 164th Div, 38th Div, and the 102IR.  He has 4 more units moving to the area.  Canton only has 2 units present.  I will have to do some recon of HK to see what he has there.  

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/17/2011 5:28:20 PM   
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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/18/2011 12:12:23 AM   
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KB Location North of Ambon.

Mini KB North of Rabaul

PI
Nothing

Singers
Delib attack.  He lost 1715 to my 1689.  Forts are a 2 and AV is 201.  Dosen't look good folks.  He must be tearing up his units.  I have 50,000 supply but not enough AV or rest time. 

Ambon
The KB is north of Ambon.  3 TFs are coming down the back side of Ternate.  One is a SAG with atleast 2 CAs.  I lost 8 Banshees attacking them.  I don't know what the others are.  I figure a mine sweeping TF, amphib, and SAG.  Subs are being redirected to the area.  These subs have TTs that go boom.  Ambon is fort lv 2 with 250 AV and 130 mines.  I have a PG and 2 AMs at Ambon.  I am thinking of keeping them here to mess with either his minesweepers or his SAG.  Maybe they can push his ships into the mines.  Koniu caught some xAKLs and an xAK with the KB.  Nothing important.

NoPac
My CL TF was 3 hexs off his APs but fuel is low, I might have them go forward and return to Midway and meet an AO.

SoPac
Mini KB is hovering around Rabaul. 

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/18/2011 3:08:20 AM   
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Ok so I have an 5 PT boats at Kendri.  I am going to run them towards where I think the KB is going to travel.  14% moonlight.  I may get lucky.  An AM and PG will stay at Ambon and hopefully mess with the landings some. 

I will have about 10 Dutch and American S boats in the area of Ambon.  I'm thinking of pulling one of the Brit TT bombers down to Oz to put around PM.

Kiwi's are improving in the ASW.  They also have Hudson LR's.  I have 4 in the low 60s soon they will be out patroling and hopefully killing some subs.

It might be time to send my carriers on a raiding party up towards Tarawa.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/18/2011 8:04:57 AM   
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Pardon me if I'm stating the obvious or the known. When I pop in a few things come to mind, but they may not be of help:

1) Port Moresby's airfield is too small to offer torpedoes, and I don't think there is an Air HQ or base force present armed with torps. My memory could be wrong, but check on that before you send a torp-capable strike squadron there. If you want to use torps, just make first that you are able to do so.

2) It's nice to know where the enemy carriers are, right? Before you reveal the location of your carriers, weigh whether you are offering similar "aid and comfort to the enemy" by revealing the location of your own carriers. I'm not saying you shouldn't employ them. There are times when it's good to do so - you might catch a juicy prize, and sometimes it's important to let an enemy know you are willing to use your carriers. On the flip side, sometimes we Allied players employ bombardments or carrier air strikes without fully realizing the cost: (a) the knowlede provided to the enemy; (b) the depletion to ammo stocks and/or sorties; (c) the distance to a port sufficient to allow replenishing; (d) the down time of the interval when our big ships are off on replenishment runs. That down time is often a very good reason not to employ our "hammered fists" unless we hae considered whether it is worth it.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/18/2011 6:40:47 PM   
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Canoereble thanks for stopping by and provideing your knowledge.  I appreciate yours and Alfreds expert advise.  I hope that you both keep stopping by to mentor me.  It's very nice to have 2 expert players giving me advise and tutelage.

1.  You are correct it does not have torpedoes.  I am sending a torpedoe capable HQ to it.  It might take awhile to get there, but I think it will make a nasty suprise. 

2.  I am moving my carriers into a postion to strike if I choose to.  One more day I will have a advance FP base close to Tarawa.  I will scout and look for anything juicy.  I do have a BB TF close by, if I decide that it can be used instead of my carriers.  I also have AE's, AO's, AD's and the like within 2 days sail.  But you are right I never considered the risk vs benefits of this move. 

If my CL TF from Wake hits his TF at Marcus, I think it will cause a stir.  He has to search AC at Marcus.  If he does there asleep my CL TF is 7 hexs away, with no sightings yet.  I hope it does.  I've thought about maybe doing a bombardment on Tarawa, but not sure about that yet.  I want to keep him looking over his shoulder. 

I can't do much in DEI. He will take it all when he wants.  Right now hes going after Ambon.  Once he takes that he pretty much cuts DEI from Darwin.  He has a hardon for Singers.  I figure he will attack Singers again.  It might fall.  When Singers falls he will come fast for Pburg.  Pburg is just about where I want her.  Another week or so and I'd be happy.  I got 2 units moving by ground that would be nice to have there. 


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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/18/2011 6:46:01 PM   
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DOCUP, thanks for your friendly comments. I need to politely but frankly tell you that I am not an expert player. I am experienced and decent and very wordy. But the real experts, a class which certainly includes Alfred, know that I am not in that league.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/18/2011 6:54:53 PM   
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Canoereble I know your a true southern gentleman, so by that you are a humble man.  In my opinon you are an expert player.  It's kinda like having a fav sports player.  I enjoy your AARs your gut feelings and the style you play this game.  So to me you are expert player.  HMMM kinda looks like I am stalking you but I'm not sitting in a tree outside your office window right now.  I like your style of play, and how you treat other players.  

There are alot of expert players on this forum.  I have learned and recieved alot of enjoyment from them.  So I will say thank you to all of them. 

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/18/2011 9:56:54 PM   
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quote:

He has a hardon for Singers.

I belive this to be a Yankee term for desire, for the benefit of the gentlman from Georgia.

< Message edited by zuluhour -- 10/18/2011 9:58:25 PM >

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/18/2011 10:43:33 PM   
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Thats how i got all of my sub results; camping in amphibious Ops. I also manually adjusted the subs once the IJN was sighted to both his anticipated forward moves and his egresses. Good Hunting!

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/18/2011 11:54:27 PM   
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KB SE of Kendri
Mini KB N of Rabaul

PI
Nothing.  My troops are recovering disruption pretty good.

Singers
Nothing.  I am suprised.  Also very happy.

DEI
Nothing

Ambon
Fired on 2 DMS's.  One damaged and one I think is sunk.  Yesterday I had 22 ships sunk for 257 today I have 23 for 280.  I don't think a DMS is worth 23 pts.  His ships might be heading to one of the Timor bases.  I don't know why he wouldn't take on Ambon or Kendri.  If he takes one of the Timor bases, he will be cut off from supplies unless he keeps the KB close by. 

SoPac
He took WeeWak(sp).

Thats about it.  I am still wondering about the 6 AMc's that got tore up at Bataan.  They should have sunk.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/19/2011 5:20:10 AM   
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Ok question guys.

I am in the process of replaceing, moving around AC.  Would it be better for me to grab 8 B25B Mitchell's or 4 B17E's.  I am using the old Bolos.  I'm thinking B17's.  But what do you all think.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/19/2011 5:33:23 AM   
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The heavies definitely.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/19/2011 7:53:51 AM   
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So I will go with the heavies.  I am kinda likeing the pilot training and plane shuffeling game.   Turn has been sent.   Intel says the MKB is heading Neast.  He hasn't hit Rabaul yet and I dont see anything moving to it.  I bet the KB will move up towards Singers.  He will find 100 fighter at Sobjera(sp).  Lets see how he likes that.  He won't find much, most of the ships left are repairing or AMc's. 

I am thinking that Koniu will try and take all of DEI and the Solomons before he really goes for the rest of SoPac.  I'm wondering where he is in Burma. 

I'm still not for sure on Burma.  I'm thinking about a fighting withdraw but don't want to put a big drain on my replacments. 

Just thinking out loud


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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/19/2011 12:46:26 PM   
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How are you doing your pilot training?

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/19/2011 11:50:38 PM   
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quote:

So I will go with the heavies.

Hey DO check the Squadron leaders out. Some of the B17 leaders I found to have 27 for aggression etc. Caught me by suprise when I tried co-ordinate them with flat tops. Givem the lead!

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/21/2011 7:19:23 AM   
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KB moving NW
MKB N Rabaul

Well I worked a long long shift and forgot to send him the game turn.  So we missed a day and its my fault.

Slow turn mostly.

Singers
Delib attack.  We took more than he did this time.  me 2,500 him 1,500.  I am down to 160 AV with 2 forts.  Don't know how much longer they can hold out.  Koniu stated in his email that he will contiune this blood bath.  So another attack tom.  He has bought in more units.  2 Divs 10 IR is what I counted real quick.

DEI
KB is sailing North West with a SAG jus to the south.  He has 2 small CA TFs (CA, 2 DD) roaming around looking for shipping.  I will try a NavAtt tom.  If it hits a small CA TF will go follow it.  I now have Intel that a IR is heading to Kendri.  If the KB dosen't stay that TF might be dog meat.

China
He has done a cpl of Bombardment attacks but nothing happened from it.  I learned where 2 more Divs are.

Graymane
Break down specfics.  Not for sure.  I have most of my fighter units on escort.  I have 2 on General, these 2 units have air skill in mid 60s to 70s with exp in the 50s.  I am want to increase there def and exp.  I have 4 army bomber units training ASW, 3 recon, the rest are Ground.  Navy the VS sqd at ahh LA (i think) are doing escort, search, ASW, and NavAtt.  Cats are searching or training NavS.  Kiwi's are doing more ASW, and ground bomb.  Aussie and Brits are doing roughly the same.

Zulu
yes I know some of the leaders suck.  I have found in AI games that it is hard to get army and navy to coordinate on air ops.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/21/2011 1:51:57 PM   
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One thing I have noticed is that training seems to work better with full squadrons (by that I mean planes). If I have 6/12 plane unit and 9 pilots, they seem to not train very well as opposed to filling out the planes to 12 and 18 pilots (my numbers of pilots might be a bit off, but the max is close to that I think).

I've had good luck with fighters at 100 ft./range 0. First I train them on escort to get A2A up. If pilots def needs to be higher after this, I switch to sweep (leaving it at 100 ft./range 0) and strafe gets trained. Def seems to shot up pretty well at 100 ft. for some reason.

I also like to train my 2 engine bombers (B-26/B-25 for example) in LowNav. 1000 ft/range 0. If you go lower than that, you get strafe skill. I also then tend to do mostly naval search instead of ground bombing as I need that more early on. I do train a lot on ASW like you seem to be doing.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/21/2011 4:27:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Graymane

One thing I have noticed is that training seems to work better with full squadrons (by that I mean planes). If I have 6/12 plane unit and 9 pilots, they seem to not train very well as opposed to filling out the planes to 12 and 18 pilots (my numbers of pilots might be a bit off, but the max is close to that I think).

I've had good luck with fighters at 100 ft./range 0. First I train them on escort to get A2A up. If pilots def needs to be higher after this, I switch to sweep (leaving it at 100 ft./range 0) and strafe gets trained. Def seems to shot up pretty well at 100 ft. for some reason.

I also like to train my 2 engine bombers (B-26/B-25 for example) in LowNav. 1000 ft/range 0. If you go lower than that, you get strafe skill. I also then tend to do mostly naval search instead of ground bombing as I need that more early on. I do train a lot on ASW like you seem to be doing.


I think that is a two edged sword. For example, I have a full squadron but I stuff maxium pilots in the squadron. So yes not everybody flies each day but . the squadron keeps flying with little fatigue. I can set 90% training and the least fatigued seemed to be selected for training. Also, the training numbers do increase in dribble and drabs like your observations because some pilots do not have planes to fly, but they fly rested. That seems to also lower accidents.

Lots of trade-offs and decisions to make in this game.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/21/2011 7:52:42 PM   
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On pilot training, I have the squadrons maxed on pilots and train most and rest some. Is this a good way to this? Docup, sorry havent been on lately, after 8 months of unemployment finally got a good job, so it takes up some of my time. Docup, looks like ur doing good so far, look forward to reading more.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/21/2011 8:07:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Graymane

One thing I have noticed is that training seems to work better with full squadrons (by that I mean planes). If I have 6/12 plane unit and 9 pilots, they seem to not train very well as opposed to filling out the planes to 12 and 18 pilots (my numbers of pilots might be a bit off, but the max is close to that I think).

I've had good luck with fighters at 100 ft./range 0. First I train them on escort to get A2A up. If pilots def needs to be higher after this, I switch to sweep (leaving it at 100 ft./range 0) and strafe gets trained. Def seems to shot up pretty well at 100 ft. for some reason.

I also like to train my 2 engine bombers (B-26/B-25 for example) in LowNav. 1000 ft/range 0. If you go lower than that, you get strafe skill. I also then tend to do mostly naval search instead of ground bombing as I need that more early on. I do train a lot on ASW like you seem to be doing.


This issue is regularly mentioned by experienced players but I take absolutely no regard of the constant repetition because notwithstanding the impression the posters wish to convey regarding the "authoritative" status of their experience, it is actually far from being authoritative. There are simply far too many variables not taken into account when such claims are made. There is never a control group to substantiate the claims.

Pilot training is affected by variables such as:


  • leader stats
  • the need to accumulate points before the next pilot level is reached - these points being hidden and under the hood
  • a high experience level of the pilot slowing down progress on accumulating the points on the individual skill levels


Alfred

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/21/2011 10:45:32 PM   
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Yay more conversations. Keep it up guys. I am popular for once.

Graymane
Yea I forgot I do have 2 or 3 2E bombers on LowNav. I put them on general training really for one reason. When I check on them I see lots of different colors. It looks as if they are doing something. So that makes me happy. Yea kinda jacked up.

Crackaces
Very true. it is trade offs as to how you want to play and what you want.

Xnavytc
First off CONGRATS. Hope everything goes well with you on that front. Thanks for your thoughts on the game. My thoughts on pilot training below and how I am doing some of it. If you want I can look deeper into what I have and post it. Just let me know. My motto is cheap and easy. Thats why hairless women love me.

Alfred
I agree, to many variables to really know whats going on.

Pilot Training
Disclaimer: I am no expert at this. So take what I say with 2 grains of salt.

AC Numbers
This depends. If I have a sqd that will withdraw. I will not put in AC for it to be withdrawn. If a sqd is restricted or stays, I will fill out the sqd. If the sqd has planes that I want, I will fill out the sqd with other planes.

Pilots
I am trying a few things here. Some sqd will get max pilots other will get the same number as planes. To early to tell on this one. Just like Alfred said its not scientific or anything. I don't know what is normal for me to have at this point in the game but I have alot of good A2A pilots with mid 60s and above. Atleast that is what I am thinking.

Training
I set my sqds to fly 100% training, with 0 range. Ops and fatique are very low.

This is how I do it. Questions, Comments, Concerns

As always Graymane, Crackaces, Xnavytc and Alfred thanks for stopping by and please return.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/21/2011 10:56:24 PM   
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KB S of Kendri
MKB E of Rabaul

PI
Nothing at all.  Is he just holding me here or what.  Did I do a number on his forces at Clark.  Inquireing minds want to know.

Singers
Another delib attack.  HMMM did'nt see that one comeing.  I bet he does it again tom.  Again we took more than he did. Us 2,200 him 1,200.  Fort is 1 with 110 AV.  How much longer can those brave batteling bastar#ds of Singers hold out?

DEI
He sweeped Sobjeraea(sp)  How ever you spell it.  I lost 11 B339s, 7 Hawks, 7 Buffs, 5 Deomons to his 12 zeros.  Not good.  I doubt he does that again.  We showed him who was boss now didn't we.
I love PT boats.  I had 4 American pts left over from PI at Kendri.  They scared off the invasion fleet, but got caught in daylight by a CA 2 DD TF.  I lost 2 of the pts.   Theres teh good and the bad.

China
Not much moving troops around some bombardment attacks and bombings. 

Right now I got crap going everywhere.  Bob Hope dosen't know if he's suppose to be at Pago Pago or San Deigo.  Rita Hayworth is staying in my bedroom for now.  Turns seem easier and quicker now.  So I am spending more time messing with training and crap.  Logistics win wars.

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/22/2011 12:20:19 AM   
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DEI
He sweeped Sobjeraea(sp) How ever you spell it. I lost 11 B339s, 7 Hawks, 7 Buffs, 5 Deomons to his 12 zeros. Not good. I doubt he does that again. We showed him who was boss now didn't we.

Did you bag 12 zeros? or did he sweep with 12? I'm dreaming of getting more than two or three of those LYBs driving their rice burners!

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RE: Want some candy, come inside - 10/22/2011 1:06:02 AM   
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I'm not trying to be authoritative, simply conveying my experiences.

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