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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/6/2015 6:44:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I see there at lest 4 or 5 groups from Essex carriers. But i can only confirm one CVL becouse i only see it durring replay.
I he bring big boys plus Iowa battleships i dont se how Docup can risk them ergo he must have there major force. Taking big carriers there with small force is not worth risk becouse he can do that with CVE only.

Of course Docup can switch air groups and actually those CV groups can be flying from CVE and that mean it is bait and he will move elswere

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/7/2015 5:34:05 AM   
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I belie entire operation is attempt to intercept and destroy Japanese BBs in region.
So far Docup 3 times move landing craft to Ambon hex and 3 times i send Kongo's to intercept them. Without success.
Last turn again two enemy TF end in Ambon hex but strangely they unload nothing.
Bait i will say.

I believe Docup plan is like that. Iowas and Fletcher will sweep Kendari hex and simultaneously slower BBs and cruiser from Gorong will go for Ambon.
CV he have there are here to give air cover for his SAGs and eventually finish what will be left from Japanese battle wagons.

Japanese plan is like that.
BB TF i have in north will move at full speed and will merge with BBs in Kendari hex
I hope they will merge before enemy will enter Kendari hex. I should have 4xBB(Kongos) TF there. CL TF some Es and LBs will try to slowdown enemy before they meet Tanaka big boys
Simultaneously KB will jump at full SE of Kendari. I chose position ~9 or more hexes from most
of allied AF. If we have naval Battle in Kendari i hope enemy damaged ships will be at KB range on morning.
CV battle will be bonus






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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/7/2015 4:18:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Have no time for details. But there was no CV battle.
Docup know that KB is in Banda Sea- his bombers attack KB at night damaging two DD with bombs. Lucky i lost only few LBA bombers at day
Enemy fleet is gone. KB SE of Kendari - undetected.(only small SAG have DL 2/5

Big disappointment. Docup know me to well

KB will retreat north for refuel and i think it is time to move closer to home



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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/12/2015 7:57:55 AM   
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Again i saw enemy CV near Ambon.
This time i have no KB ready so full job go to LBA planes. On morning enemy navy show up north of Ambon. LBA attack. Not many return back for what, for single TT hit in to CVL.
But i can live with that.

Wortst. I have CA TF in Manado i forgot to givee them retreat order and they where captured in Manado port(after they disband and night phase). two CA light damaged, two CL sunk 7 DD sunk 8 E sunk
It is not over i had BB TF 80 miles from Kendari they where attacked by CV bombers. Short story Fuso go down and another BB will spend few months in yard.

600 planes lost for 200 on Allied side. Manado closed.

For details ask docup i have to low morale


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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/12/2015 8:31:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe it's time to pull back the big guns and make him wonder more again. I know it's tough to concede space, but time is on your side here. You could keep good assets to very late and they will still be useful in areas like the PI, Formosa and around the HI if you still have something to fight with then. Maybe et the small stuff, planes and subs and quick little SAGs take bites out occasionally for a while to get him feeling confident, then throw the hammer of the KB in. Often not knowing what is coming is more scary from the Allied side than having to fight what you can see.

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/12/2015 9:37:10 AM   
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Maybe it's time to pull back the big guns and make him wonder more again. I know it's tough to concede space, but time is on your side here. You could keep good assets to very late and they will still be useful in areas like the PI, Formosa and around the HI if you still have something to fight with then. Maybe et the small stuff, planes and subs and quick little SAGs take bites out occasionally for a while to get him feeling confident, then throw the hammer of the KB in. Often not knowing what is coming is more scary from the Allied side than having to fight what you can see.

+1

It is my plan for tomorrow, I will use KB but as defensive force.
I need to secure those CAs and BBs in area that need to retreat tomorrow.
KB will take secure position close enough to give air cover but outside range of his carriers.

Ambon area will be lost soon. I will now focus on inside defense ring. After all it is now December 1944

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/12/2015 11:23:20 AM   
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30 August 1944

Again i saw enemy CV near Ambon.
This time i have no KB ready so full job go to LBA planes. On morning enemy navy show up north of Ambon. LBA attack. Not many return back for what, for single TT hit in to CVL.
But i can live with that.

Wortst. I have CA TF in Manado i forgot to givee them retreat order and they where captured in Manado port(after they disband and night phase). two CA light damaged, two CL sunk 7 DD sunk 8 E sunk
It is not over i had BB TF 80 miles from Kendari they where attacked by CV bombers. Short story Fuso go down and another BB will spend few months in yard.

600 planes lost for 200 on Allied side. Manado closed.

For details ask docup i have to low morale



First post was not 100% accurate
I lost only 5DD, also i did not notice that both damaged CAs have fires ~20 points
I am able to send in air over 700 fighters they will protect airspace over Kendari. CA TF will protect waters around base.

KB will take position near Manado to protect over 20 damaged ships that need to retreat north


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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:41:47 AM   
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Turn is on Docup side.
I decided to be more aggressive. Probably mistake but i believe it will be last chance when i will have numeric advantage over allied CV planes. Estimated number of his forces is 800-1000 carrier based planes.(Probably 600+ are fighters)
I belive big strike escorted by ~200-250 A7M2 will be able to get trough. Plus i will figt above own base so many pilots will survive


KB main job will be protect ships that need to retreat from Manado but they will take more aggressive position. Among many TFs i see allies have few "APA" TFs. I believe those are landing troops for Ternate or more probable reinforcements for Ambon.

KB will take position in magical 8 hex from Ambon(or 2 hexes if Ternate) and 750 bombers will try to kill. (first time i will intentionally aim for 8 hex strike)
So it can be knife fight

I will have 750 strike bombers and 300 escort fighters. KB will have CAP of 300 CV fighters and between 0-300(Ki-44c, N1K2, Ki-84r) fighters from Ternate.



PS. First 6 Ki-83 arrive to pool k.




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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 2:18:12 PM   
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What will your monthly production of the Ki83 be?

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 2:19:21 PM   
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Good luck!

What will your monthly production of the Ki83 be?


180 planes
wait 1 minute i will give you my production numbers



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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 2:27:58 PM   
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Little to much Ki-84 someone will say, but only last turn i lost 170 of them




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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 3:38:46 PM   
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Just watching replay


CV BATTLE

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 3:41:27 PM   
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 3:44:32 PM   
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500 bombers 300 fighters

Allied CAP ~220 fighters


It will be semi live report




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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 3:52:20 PM   
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I lost 10 A7M2 and ~120 bomber








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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:05:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ouch, whatever DOCUP have there will suffer. Only 220 Fighters? Can´t be over his CVs?

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:13:40 PM   
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Ouch, whatever DOCUP have there will suffer. Only 220 Fighters? Can´t be over his CVs?

Last turn he had 600+CAP dont know when all others are gone. Maybe they LCAP ships in Namlea hex but if so why Docup leave his Carrier north of Ceram.
Or maybe i will see huge escorted strike against KB

I in the middle of Japanese naval attack

3xCV are gone 3xCVL also

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:19:20 PM   
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Ouch, whatever DOCUP have there will suffer. Only 220 Fighters? Can´t be over his CVs?

Last turn he had 600+CAP dont know when all others are gone. Maybe they LCAP ships in Namlea hex but if so why Docup leave his Carrier north of Ceram.
Or maybe i will see huge escorted strike against KB

I in the middle of Japanese naval attack

3xCV are gone 3xCVL also


Hmmmm seems like at least 6 carriers of some sort ...

Not exactly a plan needed for the DEI ...

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:21:02 PM   
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Ouch, whatever DOCUP have there will suffer. Only 220 Fighters? Can´t be over his CVs?

Last turn he had 600+CAP dont know when all others are gone. Maybe they LCAP ships in Namlea hex but if so why Docup leave his Carrier north of Ceram.
Or maybe i will see huge escorted strike against KB

I in the middle of Japanese naval attack

3xCV are gone 3xCVL also


Hmmmm seems like at least 6 carriers of some sort ...

Not exactly a plan needed for the DEI ...


AM phase is done

At lest 4xCV heavy damaged or sunk, 1 CVL sunk two more damaged
CL sunk in Ambon hex

No allied counterattack


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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:23:49 PM   
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:25:08 PM   
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Ouch, whatever DOCUP have there will suffer. Only 220 Fighters? Can´t be over his CVs?

Last turn he had 600+CAP dont know when all others are gone. Maybe they LCAP ships in Namlea hex but if so why Docup leave his Carrier north of Ceram.
Or maybe i will see huge escorted strike against KB

I in the middle of Japanese naval attack

3xCV are gone 3xCVL also


Hmmmm seems like at least 6 carriers of some sort ...

Not exactly a plan needed for the DEI ...


AM phase is done

At lest 4xCV heavy damaged or sunk, 1 CVL sunk two more damaged
CL sunk in Ambon hex

No allied counterattack



A reverse Midway! Congratulations!!!


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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:29:15 PM   
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Allies CV TF annihilated



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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:29:54 PM   
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:30:27 PM   
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kofiau at 79,106

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 291
B7A2 Grace x 237
D4Y4 Judy x 247

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 28
F4U-1D Corsair x 47
F6F-5 Hellcat x 135

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
B7A2 Grace: 37 destroyed, 21 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 2 destroyed by flak
D4Y4 Judy: 34 destroyed, 14 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 3 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 5 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVL Independence, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVL Monterey, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Essex, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
CVL San Jacinto, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CV West Virginia, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires
CLAA San Diego
DD Baldwin
DD Kalk
DD Blue II
DD Carmick, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD McCook
DD Cassin Young, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Frankford, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Wickes

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:34:16 PM   
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Congratulations! Wonder what DOCUP was trying to do...



Don`t know but placing so small CV force as forward guard was just stupid
he dont even set his bombers on attack Even LBA bombers should get trough so week CAP

If he want to protect his landing in Namlea and Ambon on his place i will place my CV 120nm south of Ambon.

From bad news i lost CA that was damage during last turn


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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:36:24 PM   
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Notice how short a2a phase was. Lesss that 50 CV based fighters lost
Acrualy i lost only 2 A7M2 over enemy carriers and 10 lost over Manado agains B-29 raid
Over ambon 15 Sams go trough F6F like knife trough butter

Morning Air attack on TF, near Ambon at 76,109

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 55 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 15
D4Y4 Judy x 12

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 3 destroyed
D4Y4 Judy: 3 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
LST-452, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Achilles, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
LCI-75, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

All Ki-44 lost from P-38 Sweep over Ternate





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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:48:59 PM   
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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 4:50:05 PM   
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You effectively ended the war.

sadly it can be true
I was expecting fighting at lest 1000+ plane death star and was ready for lose of half of KB and i find this baby CAP
What just happen?

I just check.
even after losing those carrier Docup still have 900 CV/CVL capacity and over 2000 CVE capacity. Instead in shadows he should use them today and finish KB.

Only what is saving him now is that it was price he was wiling to pay for other op.

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RE: Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) - 4/13/2015 5:06:46 PM   
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deep i not happy after this turn.
Not sure why.

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