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True WWII story - 9/8/2011 8:32:15 AM   
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I thought that the respected forum members might enjoy this WWII story.
Before beginning a need to add a couple of caveat.
I’ve been told the story by the son (my cousin-in-law) of the protagonist, hence with time and the double passage some of the details might be different from reality, but I absolutely believe the core to be true (maybe the rest too).
Also, since it’s not my name or that of a public figure, I do not feel comfortable with posting it for reference. I hope you can live with that.
This relative of mine, who passed some years back, was an Italian Air Force General.
He started his career for “family” reasons. He was the eldest of a big family (I believe he had 6 younger brothers and sisters) and, having lost the father, the family was in some financial difficulties.
Due to the Italian commitment to the Spanish civil war the Italian Air Force opened (for the first time I was told) the position of pilot officer to those of common birth. The salary, for a big family with little money, was very interesting. He therefore decided to enroll and later on went to Spain, as lieutenant, to fight as a bomber pilot under German General Hugo Sperrle.
I remember being told that he was a dive bomber pilot. However Italians, as far as I know, did not have DB, hence it was either a German leased Ju-87 or the 3E Italian level bomber SIAE Marchetti SM79.
After the Spanish war he returned to Italy and WWII began.
Sometime before ’43 (he was imprisoned by the Germans in an Austrian prison after the armistice) he was promoted to Captain and posted to Berlin as liaison officer at the Italian embassy since he knew German (I have no idea why).
And here comes the interesting part.
For some reason he had to go to Berlin by car (those black cars with the little flags – Italian -on the front bumpers), curfew was tight and the closer he got to Berlin the more frequent the MP controls.
He was stopped over and over (on a trip lasting more than a day) by those military police guys with the “banana” shaped metal medallion hanging from the neck.
Every time he had to produce papers, credentials and answer questions.
Eventually he was in Berlin and once again he got stopped. After the usual checks a new guy arrives at the window and – again – he asks for the papers.
The new guy had a long black leather coat and metal trimmed glasses.
The Captain was really exhausted and, when asked for the millionth time for the papers, he produced them and added – in Italian – “and **** off to you!”
Two days later there’s the gala dinner to introduce the new liaison officer to the German counterparts. During the dinner the Italian ambassador introduces the captain to General Himmler (yes, the nice guy we all heard about!) and Himmler says – in Italian – “we’ve already had the pleasure”.
He was the last guy to stop him two days before!
He said that his heart literally stopped and he thought he was already dead.
It turns out Himmler was in a particularly good mood and he made it.
He believed to be the one person to have survived WWII telling off Himmler in Germany and he was quite proud of the feat (i.e. having told off Himmler, albeit in Italian).


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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:09:26 AM   
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Great Story!

Less funny, but true:

My grandfather, whom I loved and respected dearly, was a medic in WWII where he spend most
of the war in Finland. I don´t know many details as he disliked this topic and probably had
memories buried deep inside he did not want to revive and did not expect others to understand.

One of the stories he liked to share was this though:

He was a bit behind the frontline in a small wooden patch, standing cover behind a tree because of heavy
shelling of Russian artillery. It was early spring, he said that the ground was covered with snow.

When he looked down he was surprised to see a flower with a vivid color sprouting from the otherwise
white ground (don´t remember the color), and he said he knelt down to pick it as the first
one he had seen after the long Winter, thinking about drying it and sending it to my grandmother.

A few shells hit close by and when he looked looked up again he saw that shrapnel nearly cut the tree
in half, at the height where his head had been only seconds before. He left the flower where grew.

He often said "A flower saved my life."

Without this flower its quite possible I wouldn´t exist.

Strange, when you think about it...


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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:13:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LoBaron

He often said "A flower saved my life."

Without this flower its quite possible I wouldn´t exist.

Strange, when you think about it...



Very romantic

.... butterfly effect

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:15:52 AM   
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He was a romantic. My grandmother is the tough one, still healthy and alive at 90 years...

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:22:57 AM   
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It's very difficult to get war stories out of grandparents.
My grandfather (now passed) fought in Northern Africa as an officer of "horse artillery" (AAA), but I never managed to get anything out of him.
The only thing I managed was that he really disliked Germans because of post armistice events, I believe.
I discovered that when I came home with a German girlfriend
Now I have a German wife
But he got over it

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:38:38 AM   
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One of my grandfathers told me that when he was fighting in North Africa he was part of a patrol in a town one night and when they came around the corner of a building they ran into a squad of Germans and both sides ran away with no one firing a shot.

My wifes grandma, who is 81 has no funny stories. She was a teenager during the Japanese occupation of the Philippines. She told me of some people being caught with ammuniton and as punishment they were buried alive after seeing their infants thrown in the air and caught on bayonets. I'll never forget her crying as she told me that story. And I'll never forget the smile on her face when she talked about the Americans coming back and giving her dad medical supplies and asking her if she was ok.

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:42:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mc3744
It's very difficult to get war stories out of grandparents.
My grandfather (now passed) fought in Northern Africa as an officer of "horse artillery" (AAA), but I never managed to get anything out of him.
The only thing I managed was that he really disliked Germans because of post armistice events, I believe.
I discovered that when I came home with a German girlfriend
Now I have a German wife
But he got over it



My dad fought in Vietnam. He had a fit when I married an Asian. My mom too! Now my mom loves her more than me! Dad is still pissed though. Never did get over it.

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:45:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy

My dad fought in Vietnam. He had a fit when I married an Asian.


I bet he did!

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:46:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy

One of my grandfathers told me that when he was fighting in North Africa he was part of a patrol in a town one night and when they came around the corner of a building they ran into a squad of Germans and both sides ran away with no one firing a shot.



Wouldn't it be nice if it was always like that?

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 11:18:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy
My dad fought in Vietnam. He had a fit when I married an Asian. My mom too! Now my mom loves her more than me! Dad is still pissed though. Never did get over it.


My Dad got caught up in the first (pre-war) draft in 1940. He got out of the Army on December 1st, 1941, used his accumulated pay to buy a new Chevy and a ring for the girl he left behind, and drove home to St. Louis. By January he was back in the Army, having lost money selling the car and being told by the girl there was no way she was going to wait for him again. In his mind, to the end of his days, Pearl Harbor was a Japanese plot to ruin his life. When I bought a Mazda in the 80's, he refused to even ride in it...

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 11:25:12 AM   
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In 1945, my father was with the OSS, stationed at a chalet in the French Alps where the Germans, under Kesselring, were in secret negotiations with the Allies to surrender the German Army in Italy.  Under very "hush, hush" secrecy, the Germans were brought to the chalet for the negotiation sessions.  American GIs gave up their dog tags and parts of their uniforms so that the German officers could appear in disguise.  My father contributed his dog tags. 

At some point (the details are fuzzy now), my father ended up in a tunic with his sergeant's stripes, but he had lieutenant's bars on his collar.  He was in a bathroom using a urinal when an American general came in to use the urinal beside his.  After an uncomfortable pause, the general looked at my father and blurted:  "Just what in the hell are you?"

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 12:22:07 PM   
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Not such an exiting story, but nevertheless;

-My grandfather (age 15 in 1940) was arrested when the Germans invaded Norway for throwing rocks at German trucks. He was shipped off to the prison camp at Grini (just north of Oslo) and helped expand the airport at Fornebu. After an attempt to escape in -45 he was scheduled to be shipped off to a KZ camp in Germany and arrived at the docks in Oslo May 8th 1945. And was then released as the war was over. Quite a close call.

-In my family we have a large clock hanging on the wall with some ornaments on the bottom of it, but when you look at it, it is clear that it should have ornaments on the top as well. Turns out that ornament was hit by shrapnel by the German bombing of Kristiansand April 9th 1940, and hence was one of the first German bombs dropped on Norway.


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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 2:12:40 PM   
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Wow, some very interesting stories from this forum!
We should put a book together

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 2:13:39 PM   
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Two of my uncles enlisted the day war was declared in 1939.

Ken joined the Black Watch, our local infantry regiment, and David was assigned to the Scots Dragoon Guards. They had various secondments, but had not seen each other since the day they left home.

Cairo late 1945, awaiting demob, and there is a football match being played between the Army and RAF, there was a pipe band to entertain the crowd of soldiers before the game in which Ken was a piper, and just before half time, David scored for the Army. That was the first of ken spotting David, and it wasnt until after the game that David saw Ken. That was the first of the two brothers knowing for sure that they had both made it through the war.

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 3:16:49 PM   
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I have told this one before but here we go again.

My next door neighbor for two decades, Germain, was from Kiev. He was a member of the young communits and along with hundreds of other teenage volunteers was marched off to the front lines to dig trenches. However, by they time they got to the front the Russian army had retreated and they were snatched up and marched off to labor camps by the Nazis. He spent the next four years working in the camps and to his dying day was a rabid anti-communist. He passed away about two years ago. After the war he moved to Paris where he married the most beautiful woman (Finnish) that I have ever seen and then ended up in the US as a Russian language broadcaster for Voice of America. (How many of you are old enough to remember Voice of America? )

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:04:43 PM   
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My grandfather was a soldier at war for a little less then 5 days. He was a 20 year old draftee in the dutch army in 1940 stationed at the port of Den Helder (fort Kijkduin). There were only two things he told me about the war:

The first was a story about a mate of his being shot in the arse by a strafing luftwaffe fighter.. he laughed about that one as it was a "happy" ending and they both got through it..

The second thing was "not all germans are bad" which was a good thing to learn (sounds stupid I know) growing up in the 80s and 90s where the germans were still very much disliked..

My grandmother told me a few more things after he died in 99. Apparantly he threw his weapon in the water after the surrender and managed to evade captivity until he got called up for "arbeiteinsatz".. working in the german war industry. He befriended the family he was quartered with and they remained friends after the war (probably where the "second thing" came from).. At some point my grandfather was allowed to go home to visit his parents who were married for 25 years. He went into hiding and spend the remainder of the war "somewhere".. Reminds me, I have to ask my mother where that was.

Grandma also told me my grandfather was very lucky. His unit was about to be send to the "afsluitdijk" to reinforce troops defending against 1st cavalry division.. The surrender might have saved his life.

Attached you find a picture of a guy in a 1940s dutch uniform, in the background you see the headstones of some of the fallen of that short, 5 day, defense by the dutch army..




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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:18:23 PM   
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My Grandfather had alot of WW2 adventures at sea in three theatres. One of his encounters with imminent peril occurred when he was the skipper of a ship interdicting German weather stations in Greenland. His boat got locked in sea ice for over a month. One day a Blohm un Voss trimotor flying boat came by and began strafing the ship (which had one main deck gun and several .50cal for armament). So he walked onto the bridge and began shooting at it with a .30-06 cal Springfield 1901. In the event, the a.c. was hit well enough to set one of its engines to smoking, and it flew away. His ship was not damaged, and no one was injured.

Much later, in 1945, when he was skipper of a different (much larger) ship, his crew took a Kamikaze under fire near Karema Retto and struck it. The pilot apparently diverted from his ship and struck the USS Terror.

He was in Life Magazine once. Skipper of a patrol boat turned over to Iceland under Lend Lease. One of his many adventures on Greenland Patrol.

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:27:17 PM   
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My great grandfather was in the German army in the early 30s.  When his enlistment was up he came to America.  Times were hard in the 30s as we all know.  He enlisted in the American army to support his family.  Ended up going to ETO.  In Pattons army and actually fought againist his old unit.  Not much more is known about what he did or saw, he didn't talk much about it to my family.  Not many of my relatives talk about there experences in the military besides the good times.  And a bunch of us served its sad.

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:27:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crsutton

I have told this one before but here we go again.

My next door neighbor for two decades, Germain, was from Kiev. He was a member of the young communits and along with hundreds of other teenage volunteers was marched off to the front lines to dig trenches. However, by they time they got to the front the Russian army had retreated and they were snatched up and marched off to labor camps by the Nazis. He spent the next four years working in the camps and to his dying day was a rabid anti-communist. He passed away about two years ago. After the war he moved to Paris where he married the most beautiful woman (Finnish) that I have ever seen and then ended up in the US as a Russian language broadcaster for Voice of America. (How many of you are old enough to remember Voice of America? )


Remember it? It's still out there! It even has a web site.
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:39:09 PM   
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My Great Uncle was in the Territorial Army (Volunteer part time reserve) pre-war in Sunderland. it was a AT regt. They were shipped to India then Singapore in late 1941, however their AT guns were lost when the ship carrying them was lost. They landed in Singapore, were used very briefly as infantry, then were caught in the surrender. He was a prisoner in Burma for 4 years. His health never recovered and he died young, in the 70's. My Great Aunt had to wait the entire war, and literally did not recognise him on his return. She still has very mixed feelings about the Japanese, along with many of her generation locally. There were very mixed feelings when Nissan opened a car plant near Sunderland.

My Dad was 7 when the war started, was in India. He returned to UK early 1942, in convoy with HMS Warspite. Saw her practice MA firing on the horizon.


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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 9:51:10 PM   
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My Dad was 7 when the war started, was in India


My dad was in India when when WWII started and was shipped back to the UK. He married my mum in 1960 and the following year he was posted to Cyprus and they went on the same ship he'd been sent home from India in.

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 10:33:04 PM   
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My Grandfather was posted in Alaska at some point during the WW2 era, but apparently did not fight in the Aleutians. Never got too much out of him before it was too late to ask.

One of my uncles was a B-24 pilot in the ETO, Italian front. I don't know what position he flew, but I do know that his plane was shot down over Italy. He managed to bail out, and landed safely. Then perhaps due to some kind Italians, he was able to avoid capture and made it back to friendly lines.

I was once told by a friend that his grandfather flew P-47's in the Italian theater, and I wonder now if my uncle and his grandfather ever encountered one another...

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 10:35:03 PM   
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That's wild, Sprior.

I have a few stories as well. My grandfather was an infantryman in the Italian Army in WWI on the Austro-Hungarian front. He was wounded in the head and had a metal plate put in. Somehow, he survived and moved to the US during WWI. I was fortunate to grow up with him in but he died when I was 4. I never learned any details obviously.

My Dad and two uncles (Dad's brother and brother-in-law) were in WWII. My Dad went to the ETO and my uncles went to the PTO.

My Dad didn't talk much about his experience. Just a couple of funny stories is all. He landed on Utah beach in early July, 1944. The Germans were still shelling the beach. I have a couple of pictures he took from an LST moving to shore showing explosions from the shelling. I never realized they shelled the beach that long. After the war ended, his squad was sent to garrison a small town. They were not given any coordinates, just the name. They found the town in eastern Germany, along the Polish border. (They obviously didn't know about Germany being divided among the 4 Allied countries.) They got there at dusk and were pretty nervous because of all the Soviet soldiers. When they arrived, there was a Soviet mortar unit garrisoning the town. He recalled that the unit was ~50% female. A Soviet officer spoke English and they talked with him and the Soviet commander for awhile. They didn't think my Dad's squad was in the right place (and neither did my Dad's squad). The Soviets suggested they spend the night and figure it all out in the morning. It was dark and they feared the US soldiers may get shot because of their funny uniforms. My Dad's squad stayed. He mentioned an all night party and lots of vodka. (It's interesting, but I never saw my father drink.) Anyway, they found another town in western Germany by the same name on the map (in the American sector). They left the next morning and drove across Germany to that town, which turned out to be the correct one.

My two uncles were in the PTO. Uncle Rudy (my Dad's brother) joined the Coast Guard in 1941 figuring he'd be safe from being drafted. He didn't know about the Coast Guard being absorbed into the navy in wartime. Oops. Uncle Chuck (brother-in-law) ended up in the navy. Not sure if he enlisted or was drafted. Uncle Rudy ended up on LST-66 and Uncle Chuck ended up driving landing craft from a APA (don't know the name unfortunately). They were always on the lookout for each other but were in different Amphibious Corps so figured it would never happen. It turned out that their ships were tied up next to each other after the Luzon invasion. Small world. They went their separate ways then. I don't know any more about Uncle Chuck but Uncle Rudy's story gets more interesting.

Uncle Rudy was on LST-66 the entire war and spent a good amount of time in the Solomons. In 1945, she participated in the invasion of Okinawa. Uncle Rudy was a gunner on the bow 40mm quad mount. Gun crews (and most other crews) were usually organized by nationality. So, the bow mount was all Italians and the stern 40mm quad mount happened to be Irish. For some reason I never found out, someone on the stern mount was injured or got sick and Uncle Rudy was sent to help man the stern mount. He was really upset because he had to leave all of his friends and work with the Irish. Not 5 minutes later, a kamikaze hit LST-66, right on the bow mount. All of his friends were killed. He saw it happen but fortunately was uninjured. LST-66 survived and so did Uncle Rudy.

They all survived the war but are all gone now. My Dad and Uncle Chuck died a day apart and were buried on the same day next to each other in the cemetery. Being a pall bearer twice in one day was pretty rough. Uncle Rudy lasted several years more and gave me some of my most cherished possessions, including his awards and his dixie cup from the war.

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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 10:58:13 PM   
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Here's my twopennyworth... My father's older brothers were both pilots in the RAF - the younger one missed the war, completing his training in Canada in '45, although he made a career out of the RAF and ended up commanding a squadron of shackletons (10,000 rivets flying in close formation) and then as a military attache in Iran and Oz... Buy my dad's older brother flew on operations in the Med with 14 Squadron - also maritime patrol. They got B-26s in late '42, hand-me-downs from the USAAF squadrons that arrived with TORCH and used them on anti shipping missions from from Algeria and Tunisia. During April '43, his plane set out on on a lone anti-shipping patrol and never returned.. He was co-pilot, the pilot was an Aussie if I remember correctly. But damn, what happened to that B-26 and its crew?

I was in Malta a couple of months ago and took a look at the war memorial where he is remembered - still MIA. We have a few operational losses in AE, but do we ever get birds disappear without a trace?



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RE: True WWII story - 9/8/2011 11:10:50 PM   
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Mike, I'm with you. My dad and his older brother Jack died this year, a few months apart. That's partially why I took a look my Uncle Pete's memorial in Valetta. He was 21 when he went missing - wow, I was a snotty clueless undergrad at that age. They were a special generation.

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RE: True WWII story - 9/9/2011 2:48:23 AM   
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I'm a Gen X'er so my Dad's story is from the Korean War. This falls under the heading of comic relief.

He went over as a Captain in an armored unit. He was an upstanding young gentleman so the CO made him the regimental VD Officer, a post I didn't know existed but which was apparently focused on keeping the GIs out of, err, trouble. Problem was, Dad was raised in the Bible Belt (South Carolina) and really had little idea what VD was or how one might contract it. He was thus a terrible VD officer and his unit had a lot of, shall we say... Ops losses.

The CO decided to transfer Dad to the USO since he was a good ball player. Dad spent the rest of the war touring with them and playing shortstop. He batted nearly .400, won the Pacific Championship, and eventually got drafted by the Boston Red Sox as a result (he never played because he blew out his arm in Spring Training).

One night in Seoul the North Koreans sent infiltrators into the city to cause mayhem. All US personnel, even shortstops, were put on alert and patrolled the streets. My Dad reported for duty with the only weapon still in his possession... a Louisville Slugger!

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RE: True WWII story - 9/9/2011 5:15:20 AM   
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Wow guys, keep it coming. This really makes a good read.

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RE: True WWII story - 9/9/2011 8:06:30 AM   
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Hi all,

My grandfather (my mother's father) was a soldier in Austro-Hungarian empire in WWI. He was captured by Russians in 1915 on Eastern front. He was wounded in arm (bullet passed through just above his right hand wrist) and he got another bullet in his groin - luckily for him, instead of carrying his dog-tag around neck he had it in his pocket (in his pants) and bullet stopped when it hit it (I still have his dog tags!)...

He was transferred very deep into Russia and come home in 1921/1922 (with WWI and after Russian civil war he was unable to travel).

Luckily for him he was forest engineer and he almost immediately found himself appointed as a foreman on one big estate there (all Russian men, of course, were fighting in war and thus there was no one to take care of huge estate).

In the meantime my grandmother never lost faith that he would return (she waited as his fiancée for 8 years) and they got married in 1923.

Strangely enough when he and my grandmother got children (4 in all) he insisted that their first daughter would called Olga and second one Myra (my mother was their third daughter and my uncle their only son)... God knows why...

BTW, I still remember sitting in his lap as a child (he died in 1977 as almost 100 years old) listening to him talking about his military and post WWI adventures!

P.S.
I will never forget what he said: "Communism is nice thing in theory but in practice it would require people to be angles - which they are not and thus this whole thing is one grand illusion and utopia!"

When he returned the only big thing he carried with him (apart from clothes on his back) was aluminum pot he used to cook all his meals - I still have that pot at home!

P.P.S.
My other grandfather (my father's father) was in Vienna studying medicine during WWI so he was hot involved.


Leo "Apollo11"

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RE: True WWII story - 9/9/2011 8:37:14 AM   
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I have a crazy, true world war 2 story, quite different from the ones posted thus far.

Now, I am Canadian, but have lived several years in Japan. My first experience living in Japan was as a high school exchange student, living with a Japanese host family.

This host family's grandfather, whom I met four or five times when he was already at the ripe old age of 93 and 94 (he has since unfortunately passed away) had served as a military doctor in China, in which unit I cannot remember. But I saw black and white pictures of him serving around nanchang, posing with his battalion for a picture under the rising sun flag.

Of his military service I know little, as he would not talk about it much. However, I know that he had an interest in China since before the war, and had specifically requested a posting there when he was drafted from his civilian practice. He spoke Chinese quite well, and often served as his unit's unofficial interpreter.

When Japan lost the war, he became (for reasons unknown to me) separated from his unit and unable to get a ship to take him back to his country. This was, to put it mildly, extremely inconvenient for him, as his young wife, whom he had married only a few years earlier, was still in Saitama, north of Tokyo. The Chinese Civil War was ongoing, however, the Japanese administration in Shanghai and Beijing was in the process of collapsing, and the entire country was apparently in a state of chaos. So, this military Japanese doctor asked some Chinese acquaintances he had to hide him, knowing full well that he was in grave danger for his life should he ever be discovered by someone who had a particular grudge against Japanese soldiers.

His Chinese friends did in fact, harbour him, and during the summer of 1946 he came out of hiding and went to Shanghai to open up a doctor's practice, all the while pretending to be Chinese. In a country like China, his strange accent was easy to explain as he simply pretended he was from a random village in some other part of the country where everybody spoke like he did.

Now, he worked in Shanghai for a few years, becoming a respected doctor, until the outbreak of the Korean war. The Chinese authorities, desperately needing trained military doctors for the "People's Volunteers", and having heard that he had served in the military during the war, requested his services. He, not wanting them to start looking further into his rather shaky background, was not in a position to refuse. In the early months of 1951 this man thus once again found himself fighting in a war, though this time on the side of the Communist Chinese!!! When I asked him how North Korea was, he simply replied "It was cold. It was really damn cold."

This man, somewhat miraculously, survived the Korean war as well, and went back to Shanghai, when he continued looking for a way to get back to Japan, while always remaining careful not to divulge his true identity, given the extent of anti-Japanese sentiment running through China at that time. His chance finally came in 1954, with the first agreement for the official repatriation of Japanese Soldiers to Japan between the PRC and the Japanese government. Lack of official recognition of the PRC by the Japanese had, among other things, made the agreement take this long.

This story also has a happy ending. Once this doctor went back to Saitama, he found his wife, with whom he had had absolutely no contact for over 10 years, still faithfully waiting for him to come home; his death had never been confirmed, and she had never lost hope.


I met both of them several times in 2005-2006. The doctor has since passed away, but his wife is still alive and healthy at a robust 92. The doctor, by the time I met him, was already in poor health, and possibly going a little senile. He often intercut Japanese with Chinese in his speech (no one else in his family spoke Chinese, so it was difficult for everybody to understand), and he had difficulty remembering my name. Well, that last part may just have been old age. Nonetheless, the man's room was an impressive sight. It contained, not only Chrysanthemum military medals of the IJA which he recieved for his service in China, but also Hammer-and-Sickle medals from the PLA, which he gained fighting in Korea. Interspersed were black and white pictures of him with his IJA regiment, and a very striking portrait of him in a Mao suit.

This man was one of my main inspirations to begin studying Chinese, and Sino-Japanese relations.

< Message edited by BossGnome -- 9/9/2011 8:41:02 AM >


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RE: True WWII story - 9/9/2011 9:55:08 AM   
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My other grandfather had body pick up detail on all of those island hopping campaigns. My grandmother told me that his mind was never the same when he got back.

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