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Rbrunsman vs Brutto Bob, World Cup turn 3 - 10/25/2002 2:54:52 PM   
Brutto-Bob


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Status: offline 		Brutto Bob (Germany) vs Rbrunsman (USA)
8/1944, Sicily

- Enemy arty drops smoke around hilltop VHs -
- Our arty was silent -
- Kampfgruppe moves forward, still no contact with the enemy -
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Go get him Fabio - 10/25/2002 10:05:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good luck fabio. Hope the leasons you have learned in our games will serve you well. :D :D :D

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- 10/26/2002 12:02:18 AM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		U.S. Turn #1

The setting: small map which is rather more hilly than wooded. Visibility is 20. Suspect this will get up-close and personal very soon since there is not much room to maneuver north to south.

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We advance behind our smoke barrage.

Encounter several leading units of motorcycle squads. Dispatched one squad in the center, sent the one in the north running and sent some harassing fire towards the one in the south to pin it down.

The German commander likes his AT Guns, just as I recall from our previous engagement; I spotted and destroyed a 37mm AT gun, And I spot 3 50mm AT Guns attempting to set up firing lanes, but I block their LOS with smoke so they will have to relocate. Now I just have to worry about the AT Guns I did not spot and which will probably be impossible to locate after they settle into their positions.

Other than that, I spot 1 Tiger on overwatch, 1 Stug40 hiding behind a ridge close to the action and 2 Prime Movers, so perhaps I have 88s to worry about as well...

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- 10/28/2002 12:43:03 PM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		On Brutto-Bob's turn he did get that jeep I left out in the open in his backfield. That's all I could tell.

On my turn I lose another jeep to a Tiger (that makes 2 Tigers) as I crest a hill.

I stumble upon a squad of FJs and an HT that were using reverse slope defense (very clever) on the northern hill with VHs on it. Luckily I only take one casualty and my men run away.

I spotted another 50mm AT gun, so I smoked his location too. I also spot an empty HT advancing alone (?) in the north and I force the crew to bail. When I move up to finish him off, I take fire from a Marder II on overwatch. It didn't hit me but that was very clever to draw me out from cover with the lone HT. I made a hasty retreat to the woods before the Marder could take another shot.

Other than that, I spot an MG34 and 2 more Stug40 ausf F/8s. One of the 50mm ATs I shot at last turn was still visible so I blased him with alot of rounds but no damage was done. Perhaps the crew will bail and it will put that gun out of action for a turn or two.

It has been relatively quiet so far, but a storm is brewing. I just don't know where it is going to hit me...

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Turn 3 - 10/29/2002 5:26:35 AM   
Brutto-Bob


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Status: offline 		There are a pair of US infantry platoons, escorted by some tank in the woods at the northem edge of the map, my recons engaged the fight, but I need more support here.

One infantry recon was spotted in the south.

US forces are keeping all the middle objectives now.

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- 10/29/2002 1:52:14 PM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		Not much happened in the north. I got 1 Sdkfz221 and sent an FJ squad running, but it cost me because I wasn't expecting to run into him in the woods. Brutto-Bob is very good at setting ambushes. I've fallen for about 4 of them so far. :mad:

In the south I popped a Flammwagen/16, did some major damage to a platoon of engineers and sent some HTs running. Not much else happened.

I hold the all 3 VH clusters and I am pushing forward through the smoke... I expect a push on the northern VHs because that is where most of the now awake German arty fell after my turn.

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- 10/30/2002 4:21:51 AM   
Brutto-Bob


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Status: offline 		US forces are trying to secure the woods placed in the northem and southern map's edges with rangers and infantry. The major effort, in the south, is backed by some light tank and halftracks.

My engineers in the south are routed and decimated, my HTs are helping in the fight but there is nothing to do against the tanks.

In the north, my paratroops are in a little better position, but both my recons are needing for support.

In the centre, one german tank , push forward alone to catch one AA-MG, but was caught under fire by one Sherman, it was the first US Medium tank that falls in my LOS. Both are still alive, but is US turn now and the surronding ground was surely filled with US infantry...

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- 10/30/2002 11:19:56 PM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		... it surely was. Scratch one Stug40. :)

The same happened in the very southern edge of the map also. A Stug40 parked on top of one of my AAMGs. After a few assaults and an immobilization, I was able to put a side shot on that Stug40 to finish it off as well.

I took a few casualties in the north, but the Germans were pushed further out of the woods. Those HTs are proving very difficult to destroy.:mad:

In the south, I lose several jeeps, but I finish off an engineer squad and a few other units. I spot two more Stug40s on overwatch, a platoon of Cavalry moving up and a Tiger sneaking up to the woods. Will he try to enter the woods to get at my men? That could prove fatal...

There is also one MG34 in the south that I keep forgeting about that has wiped out about 10-12 of my men in two turns.:mad: I must remember to deal with that unit.

The center VHs are still held uncontested by my forces.

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- 10/31/2002 5:42:29 AM   
Brutto-Bob


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Status: offline 		In the northem and southern woods my forces are running away, the US attacks are carried by two equal fighting forces: each seems composed by 1 inf platoons + 1 Ranger platoon both carried by trucks and HTs, 2 Stuart and two Shermans. The americans are using trucks to spot my troops and draw away opportunity fire, they are using jeeps in a very aggressive way too.

In the centre, after the death of my Stug40, all is quiet...

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- 10/31/2002 1:19:26 PM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		In the north I took care of a very brave MC squad that drove into my backfield. I also eliminated a whole platoon of FJs and a Sdkfz221.

All is still quiet in the center.

In the south, the only thing I could do was eliminate a pesky Panzerfaust 30. If I stick my nose out of the woods and smoke to shoot at anything I will be answered with one of the following: several Stug40s; a couple PzIVg+s; a Panther G; or a Tiger. It cost me a Greyhound to find that out. Sooooo, I think I'll just hide right where I am and wait for a better opportunity. I also found a little present left by the retreating engineers. I hate it when mines go off, they make me jump out of my seat! I'm not telling if it was just a crewman or one of my Jacksons, or Pershings, or Abrams tanks... ;)

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- 11/4/2002 10:32:09 AM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		Another turn passes and all is quiet. I knocked out a few Prime Movers to pin down those 50mm AT Guns, I severely damaged a Tiger so that its movement rate is only 3. I wish I had immobilized it!

There is a 37mm AT gun hiding in a house in the south that I can't do anything about and it keeps hitting any vehicles I move into its LOS.:mad:

I think Brutto-Bob is regrouping since most of his tanks have disappeared from view.

The only infantry I run into is cavalry.

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- 11/4/2002 4:01:50 PM   
Brutto-Bob


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Status: offline 		I lost one Stug40 in the centre, ambushed by US infantry hidden behind a slope... :-(

In the South the american action was more determinated than mine, there is still some fighting but the area falls to US.

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- 11/6/2002 2:46:06 AM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		I didn't do anything my turn except reposition for the final destruction of the German army. I didn't see any targets worth shooting at. The Germans have gone into hiding.

The replay of the destruction of that Stug40 was awesome. That **** gun had been popping up from behind a low ridge in the same location for a few turns taking pot-shots at my men on the hills a few hundred yards in front of it. So I just snuck a squad right in front of where I thought it would pop up the next turn and sure enough I got a lucky assault on it. I was only hoping to scare the crap out of that crew so it would think twice about doing it again. What luck!:D

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- 11/6/2002 4:39:12 PM   
Brutto-Bob


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Status: offline 		One Stuart, hiding in the southern wood, was destroyed.
Some little fight between foot recons.

Nothing else to report in this turn.

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- 11/7/2002 1:10:33 AM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		In the South: I tried to assault that slow Tiger but no luck. I did take out an MG34 and a Recon Team that were next to the Tiger though. I also spotted 2 PzIVg+s trying to slip by the southern edge of the map. I tossed some 105mm arty there way to let them know I see them.

In the North: On the replay, I spotted 2 recon Teams, a 50mm AT gun, and an HT with SKI TROOPS! in it (it's the first I've seen of them), but everything disappeared on my turn. I also smoked a 37mm AAA gun that was setting up a firing line.

Other than that, not much going on. Where have those German tanks and assault guns gone to???:confused: It's not like they are easy to hide.

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- 11/7/2002 9:00:44 AM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		The Germans have made their big push! There are ski troops and regular infantry being driven towards the center and north VHs by HTs and Sdkfz-6s. There are Stugs, Tigers and a Panther that have just appeared out of nowhere. All are moving towards the VHs.

I sent several platoons of Ski Troop running, immobilized a Stug, killed a PzIVg+, a couple HTs, a recon Team and a cavalry squad.

It cost me several jeeps and an HT.

It will be interesting to see how strong the Germans will be able to push and whether they can maintain this assault.

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- 11/8/2002 1:50:39 PM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		I lost 2 Stuarts. :mad: a couple .50 cal AAA and some recon squads in the German assault. On my turn I pretty much eliminated anything that dared to get close enough for my infantry to assault them. This included a Flammwagen (after it vaporized my .50 cal AAA), an Sdkfz 221, several HTs and 3 or 4 Ski Troops. Those big cats are still moving up slowly. I don't think they will be much trouble since all there support seems to have disappeared. :)

On one lucky note, a 37mm AAA gun that was taking long range Op Fire at me had a malfunction. I like it when that happens.:)

Brutto-Bob has 4 Tigers, 1 Panther, 1 PzIVg+, 2 Stug40 ausf F/8s (1 immobilized) and 1 Stug40 ausf G as big guns left. I haven't lost any Shermans yet, IIRC and I'm not saying how many of those I have.

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- 11/9/2002 5:46:09 AM   
Brutto-Bob


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Status: offline 		My infantry was wiped out, tanks are engaging soft targets as jeeps and foot soldiers, but I can't push into low visibility zones without support.

The damaged AA-Gun is leaving the battlefield.

What to do? I'm confused...

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- 11/12/2002 1:41:11 AM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		Not much has happened. I lost a jeep trying to keep tabs on those tanks. ... Not good when you emerge from the smoke and you are staring down the barrel of a 75mm long gun about 100 yards away.:eek:

One of my tanks also took fire from a 37mm AT gun. Lucky for me it wasn't a 50mm. As it turned out, the pitter-patter of 37mm rounds at long range didn't effect my Sherman crew at all. On my turn, I blocked LOS of that gun with smoke.

It is very very quiet now, I think we are waiting for German reinforcements to arrive. I notice a few trucks facing the other way. I think they are going to get help.

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- 11/13/2002 8:20:18 AM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		Things are still quiet. On the German's turn they got a US jeep and recon team. On my arty phase, my 75mm hit an Opel in the German rear area destroying it.

On my turn I killed an Sdkfz-6 and sent a infantry squad running. I also lost another jeep keeping track of where those Panzers are hiding.

I dropped arty on the suspected location of the ski troop that killed my jeep and recon team.

Still waiting for those German infantry reinforcements so the Panzers can enter the smoke covered VH areas that I hold...

Turn #15 out of 20 is now in Brutto-Bob's hands.

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- 11/14/2002 3:48:23 PM   
Brutto-Bob


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Status: offline 		Not much to tell now... the front line was quiet since about two turns. Only some fight between recons occours.

US arty is filling the whole area with smoke to easy set ambushes against my panzers :mad:

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- 11/15/2002 5:11:53 AM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		I lost a twin .50 HT when a Panther pounced on him. :(

I retaliated by taking out an infantry squad. I couldn't find that Panther to get a crack at him, so I just tossed some 105mm arty where I thought he was to keep him buttoned.

Other than that, all I can see is a couple Tigers lurking in the fields in front of my smoke screen. I can't hurt them, but they can't do much to me either since they don't see me seeing them.:)

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- 11/16/2002 4:16:07 AM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		Brutto-Bob made his move (or was it a feint?) in the south with the help of reinforcements. I saw at least a recon squad, a jeep, 2 HTs and 2 FJ squads (meaning there must be 2 more of each), supported by a PzIVg+.

Kiss one PzIVg+, one HT and one recon squad goodbye. The FJs were sent running and the other HT took quite a beating but hung in there. I suspect that crippled Tiger is lurking very close by, but luckily for me, this assault was staged right where I had plotted a .4 delay 105mm arty barrage. So, after all the damage I did, a second volley of 105mm landed right on target. We shall see if the Germans can rally and have enough follow up troops to take out any of the juicy targets I left for them to go after.

In the north, I see Tigers, Tigers everywhere, but they are not shooting and they don't appear to be supported yet.

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- 11/19/2002 2:45:36 AM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		The southern advance was pretty well halted by my arty, but there are still a few FJ squads and 2 Tigers, and a PzIVg+ about.

In the north, the 2 Tigers there are now, or were, supported by 3 Ski squads and an MG. Now there is 1 full squad and 1 decimated squad left. :)

In the center, I got tired of a Marder II just sitting on a hill with overwatch, so I blasted him with several units and finally got him to bail.

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- 11/19/2002 5:49:40 AM   
Brutto-Bob


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Status: offline 		In the previous turn, US crews have abandoned one more halftrack and one recon armor in the south, but my forces are too weak to perform one advance.

US tanks are still untouched and well hidden behind smoke and woods.

Yes, Rbrunsman will win this one, I only can try to catch some more points to reduce the score gap...

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- 11/19/2002 11:29:18 AM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		If there is one weakness I surely have, it is that I go for the big win... and it never works. I lost 6 vehicles to Op Fire on this turn.:o I lost a .30cal Jeep, a truck, 2 HTs, a twin .50cal HT and a Greyhound. The only thing I managed to do was kill one ski squad and one MG34. Plus I crept up on that immobilized Stug in the center of the map and destroyed it with an assault.

If I had just sat back and waited for the Germans to advance on my positions, they probably would have taken serious losses with not much damage to myself. The last turn, my Op Fire took out a Sdkfz 221 that went too far into the woods that I control.

In the north I think there are only 2 Tigers left and one was retreating. In the south, I uncovered (the hard way) several squads moving up towards the VHs, but they are too far away to reach the VHs on foot with only 2 turns left even if there was no opposition in the woods there. I have specifically destroyed any transports that I could target just for that reason. It is time for Brutto-Bob to commit his Tigers and Panther(s?) to see how far they can make it towards the VHs. Who knows, perhaps he can find a path through the woods that I don't have covered. ;) I would really like to kill just one of those cats he has.

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- 11/20/2002 10:37:15 PM   
Brutto-Bob


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Status: offline 		A very bad turn for the German side!

Moving around the northem wood one of my Tiger was ambushed and immobilizated. Onother one, trying to help his comrades, enter into the forest to overrun the enemy, but was ambushed too by another, well hidden, inf squad and destroyed :mad:

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- 11/21/2002 1:36:52 AM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		I can't wait to get home and see how my well laid plans unfolded to take out your Tigers!:D

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- 11/21/2002 1:44:56 PM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		Well, I lost a few Shermans and HTs, but it was worth it to take out 2 more Tigers. I love Tigers, but I find it very satisfying when I actually kill one with an army that has nothing capable of taking them out at a distance. I got the immobilized one in the North and I found a wayward Tiger all alone in the woods in the south. The only Tiger still alive is the one that I crippled. It hasn't moved very far in many turns since its speed is limited to 3 hexes. I also immobilized that lone Panther with an assault, but it proved tougher than the Tigers as it repelled all attempts I made at more assaults and AP shots. I also got a Stug that was too close to my satchel charge armed Rangers.

I also finally took out one of those virtually invisible 37mm AAA guns that has been sniping at me the whole game. I had many of my men come out of hiding to do as much damage as I could to the Germans that are left. I took out several infantry units and actually grabbed one of the German base VHs, before my Greyhound was destroyed by Op Fire.

One turn left...

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- 11/22/2002 12:57:19 PM   
rbrunsman


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Status: offline 		Score Germany 4,400 to U.S. 10,000.
U.S. Marginal Victory.

I managed to capture the German base VHs with 2 HTs and 2 Ranger squads in the last turn. They met heavy resistance but I still managed to take the VHs.

In the north I routed or killed the remaining AT guns that were the only opposition up there.

In the middle there were several units popping smoke to hide from me and I had no vehicles to run them down.

In the south, I tried to get that immobilized Panther but I lost 2 Shermans and a Wolverine to it and still didn't even scratch it. I would think 2 hits with 3" APCR rounds from the Wolverines would have done it but they just bounced off. And I never got that last Tiger that was creeping along at 3 hexes/turn.

Brutto-Bob had me on the ropes early on, but his advance broke just before mine did and I got the majority of my men into position before he could coordinate another attack. You have to be very careful about exposing yourself to Op Fire from B-B or you will regret it with the careful use of AT Guns he applies.

Nice Game.

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