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RE: Vanishing Bookstores? - 11/28/2011 5:57:54 AM   
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Generally, from what I've seen, ebooks tend to be unreasonably expensive. They tend to cost the same as physical books. I don't think they'll be able to replace paper books unless they'll get to the point when they cost less than the cost of a paper book - cost of printing and cost of long supply chain.



There ARe free ebooks... you need to google around, I have many free classics for instance,
there are free e-readers for the PC... its the portable ones that cost... but I expect the prices on those to drop... like how DVD players were $100-$200 and now can get for $29

However e-books aren't going to grow in sales till they price many more reasonable.. if they price ebooks at or near print...why but electronic...

ebooks should be lower cost due to no printing/binding, shipping costs..




You have to blame the publishers, they set the prices that Amazon has to charge. As I recall, they started out being a lot cheaper. Of course, that's why the self-published e-books are very reasonably priced (like $1.99 or even free to get you hooked on a series). I'm reading a fascinating series called "Spinward Fringe" by Randolph Lalonde. The first three novels in the series are in a compilation called "Origins" and is free. The next two trilogies in the series are $1.99 each and I'm about to finish book 5 tonight (and will then immediately download the next episode). It's Five Star quality and a great read for the money. E-books are turning publishing on it's head... new writers can finally get their books out there without being bottlenecked by traditional publishing houses. Amazon is starting to approach authors to steal them away from their publishers... another trend that has the traditional book publishers in a near panic.

They all need to wake up to the fact that affordable e-books can sell 10 times the volume of their expensive printed versions. I've got over 150 books on my Kindle purchased in the last two years. That is 10 times more than I bought in the previous 10 years! I'm buying a book a day, sometimes several.

Just bought my first games for my Kindle Fire (Angry Birds and Tetris) for $1.99. They play beautifully on the device too.

And all my game manual PDF's display beautifully as well!


When E-books really take off they could be a gold mine to good authors with followings because the cost of printing a book is so much higher than having one posted online it gives authors the chance to take in a much more reasonable cut per book.


Amazon lets self-published authors keep 70% of the purchase price. That's a pretty good deal!


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RE: Vanishing Bookstores? - 11/28/2011 11:07:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn


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ORIGINAL: flanyboy


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ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn


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ORIGINAL: Cmdrcain


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ORIGINAL: Perturabo

Generally, from what I've seen, ebooks tend to be unreasonably expensive. They tend to cost the same as physical books. I don't think they'll be able to replace paper books unless they'll get to the point when they cost less than the cost of a paper book - cost of printing and cost of long supply chain.



There ARe free ebooks... you need to google around, I have many free classics for instance,
there are free e-readers for the PC... its the portable ones that cost... but I expect the prices on those to drop... like how DVD players were $100-$200 and now can get for $29

However e-books aren't going to grow in sales till they price many more reasonable.. if they price ebooks at or near print...why but electronic...

ebooks should be lower cost due to no printing/binding, shipping costs..




You have to blame the publishers, they set the prices that Amazon has to charge. As I recall, they started out being a lot cheaper. Of course, that's why the self-published e-books are very reasonably priced (like $1.99 or even free to get you hooked on a series). I'm reading a fascinating series called "Spinward Fringe" by Randolph Lalonde. The first three novels in the series are in a compilation called "Origins" and is free. The next two trilogies in the series are $1.99 each and I'm about to finish book 5 tonight (and will then immediately download the next episode). It's Five Star quality and a great read for the money. E-books are turning publishing on it's head... new writers can finally get their books out there without being bottlenecked by traditional publishing houses. Amazon is starting to approach authors to steal them away from their publishers... another trend that has the traditional book publishers in a near panic.

They all need to wake up to the fact that affordable e-books can sell 10 times the volume of their expensive printed versions. I've got over 150 books on my Kindle purchased in the last two years. That is 10 times more than I bought in the previous 10 years! I'm buying a book a day, sometimes several.

Just bought my first games for my Kindle Fire (Angry Birds and Tetris) for $1.99. They play beautifully on the device too.

And all my game manual PDF's display beautifully as well!


When E-books really take off they could be a gold mine to good authors with followings because the cost of printing a book is so much higher than having one posted online it gives authors the chance to take in a much more reasonable cut per book.


Amazon lets self-published authors keep 70% of the purchase price. That's a pretty good deal!



On E-Books I assume right? No way anyone makes that kind of money on a physical copy.

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RE: Vanishing Bookstores? - 11/29/2011 7:11:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: flanyboy


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ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn


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ORIGINAL: flanyboy


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ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cmdrcain


quote:

ORIGINAL: Perturabo

Generally, from what I've seen, ebooks tend to be unreasonably expensive. They tend to cost the same as physical books. I don't think they'll be able to replace paper books unless they'll get to the point when they cost less than the cost of a paper book - cost of printing and cost of long supply chain.



There ARe free ebooks... you need to google around, I have many free classics for instance,
there are free e-readers for the PC... its the portable ones that cost... but I expect the prices on those to drop... like how DVD players were $100-$200 and now can get for $29

However e-books aren't going to grow in sales till they price many more reasonable.. if they price ebooks at or near print...why but electronic...

ebooks should be lower cost due to no printing/binding, shipping costs..




You have to blame the publishers, they set the prices that Amazon has to charge. As I recall, they started out being a lot cheaper. Of course, that's why the self-published e-books are very reasonably priced (like $1.99 or even free to get you hooked on a series). I'm reading a fascinating series called "Spinward Fringe" by Randolph Lalonde. The first three novels in the series are in a compilation called "Origins" and is free. The next two trilogies in the series are $1.99 each and I'm about to finish book 5 tonight (and will then immediately download the next episode). It's Five Star quality and a great read for the money. E-books are turning publishing on it's head... new writers can finally get their books out there without being bottlenecked by traditional publishing houses. Amazon is starting to approach authors to steal them away from their publishers... another trend that has the traditional book publishers in a near panic.

They all need to wake up to the fact that affordable e-books can sell 10 times the volume of their expensive printed versions. I've got over 150 books on my Kindle purchased in the last two years. That is 10 times more than I bought in the previous 10 years! I'm buying a book a day, sometimes several.

Just bought my first games for my Kindle Fire (Angry Birds and Tetris) for $1.99. They play beautifully on the device too.

And all my game manual PDF's display beautifully as well!


When E-books really take off they could be a gold mine to good authors with followings because the cost of printing a book is so much higher than having one posted online it gives authors the chance to take in a much more reasonable cut per book.


Amazon lets self-published authors keep 70% of the purchase price. That's a pretty good deal!



On E-Books I assume right? No way anyone makes that kind of money on a physical copy.


Correct... on self-published ebooks... I've seen some of them then make the leap into paperback and I have no idea what the deal is with Amazon on that... obviously a lesser percent, but greater volume in sales perhaps?

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RE: Vanishing Bookstores? - 11/29/2011 8:30:28 PM   
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30% is the common sales commission for market places. Not different from Apple or Android.

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RE: Vanishing Bookstores? - 12/1/2011 8:46:27 AM   
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30% is the common sales commission for market places. Not different from Apple or Android.


For the host yes, developers get the other 70%... at least for apps. I have a friend who develops android apps and has delved into the Apple Market as well and he gets 70% of sales on the App Store, I don't know what his Android share is.

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RE: Vanishing Bookstores? - 12/28/2011 6:13:51 PM   
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I bought my first ebook novel today - a military hard-sci-fi novel without shields and with limited FTL travel. I still can't afford an ebook reader but I have found another way to read it.

The physical version would cost me 80 PLN - 50 PLN for book and 30 for postage. Then I'd have to wait a month for it to arrive. Not a good deal. So, I bought the ebook for 10 PLN and the store I bought it in allowed to download .pdfs for printing, so I brought it to a print shop and got it printed and bound for 27 PLN. So, in the end I paid about 37 PLN. Together with postage costs, it's a 50% saving.

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RE: Vanishing Bookstores? - 12/29/2011 4:39:39 AM   
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Hey, I bought that one too! Haven't started it yet though

You do know that there are free e-reader software programs out there for the Mac and PC? You don't have to buy a Kindle or Nook to read them. Amazon's is a quick download and is also available for devices like the I-pad and Android devices as well.

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RE: Vanishing Bookstores? - 12/29/2011 4:01:00 PM   
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Hey, I bought that one too! Haven't started it yet though

You do know that there are free e-reader software programs out there for the Mac and PC? You don't have to buy a Kindle or Nook to read them. Amazon's is a quick download and is also available for devices like the I-pad and Android devices as well.

The downside is that it would include reading a 300+ page book on a LCD screen, which would be very uncomfortable. I bought my ebook on smashwords. They are multi-format and DRM-free.

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