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Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/14/2011 2:15:26 PM   
Baelfiin


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Status: offline 		Going to post some screenshots of Hoooper overrunning Hungary, Poland and Eastern Germany for everyone's entertainment. The game is a forgone conclusion, but we are both having fun with it and learning things about end game in a "live" setting. Comments and catcalls welcome !!!

In the north it has been a slugfest and grind through a lot of forts that were built before the new fort rules went into effect.
The german infantry is really starting to melt away now. The few panzers in the area are in not much better shape.




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/14/2011 3:16:19 PM   
Baelfiin


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Status: offline 		In the Warsaw area, furious fighting through the summer saw the Soviets finally push across the Bug.

Level 4 forts behind a river with 3 decent divisions are tough nuts to crack, but when the damn finally breaks......

So far I have had success defending by attacking soviet spearheads that penetrate the line, I cant kill anything off permanently, but I am usually able to rout the point troops of the attack after chopping up a hex or two behind them.
As my troops dwindle away it becomes increasingly difficult to keep the russians somewhat in check.
The Current Disaster here is the remnants (both around 30% TOE)of 6th and 17th panzer divisions cut off in Lublin.
I am pretty sure I will be able to free them, however. The rest of the front looks fairly normal, some Misc tanks to scrub out coming across the Bug, and infiltrators to hunt down north of Lublin.




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/14/2011 3:32:37 PM   
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The mountains on the eastern border of Hungary are great places to defend in. Single hungarian divisions manage to hold on just fine as long as they get dug in. Its hard for the russians to get supply up to the front lines in the middle of the mountains, consequently when they attack they are in isolated status because they are over 100 mps to supply source. The passes through the mountains (rail lines) are vital in this area. The mountain units help out a little more now that they use foot supply in mountain hexes, but it is still a struggle for the russians to get supply up there. Note that there are not many russians trying to bash their way through, the battles over the summer were very bloody for the russians and they seem to be rolling around to the north.




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/14/2011 3:52:05 PM   
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One of the best things about getting driven out of Rumania is it allows me to shorten my line. I was able to transfer 8 odd divisions to the Warsaw area as I fell back. As you can see once the Russians are into the clear and rough on the western slopes the situation goes "downhill" quickly. I will be able to keep their advance fairly slow, but time will tell if I have the troops to do it with. The depleted formations are adding up, and there are just not enough replacements to bring them back up to strength. I am going to be forced to start merging units, which I hate to do because it takes away counters. A zero strength counter doesnt do me any good either though, maybe i can promote them to fort maintenance units ? =p




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/14/2011 4:50:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wish I could of seen your situation in Romania just before it fell.  You must of planned ahead of time so your forces weren't isolated.  What are the surrender conditions for Bulgaria?  Yeah, I'm to lazy to look them up right now... .  I look forward to getting our game this advanced in time as yours with Hooper is.

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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/14/2011 6:12:26 PM   
Baelfiin


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Status: offline 		Hooper handed me my head all the way through '41 and into '42. I was digging in at the start of the spring in 42 in the mountains while he was chasing me back from the Dnepr. Rumania was out pretty early, I think I have a screen shot of it in the tech support under Rumanian surrender bug. I had lots of security units broken down behind the lines to keep the areas under control when the Rumanians surrendered. What I didnt realize is that the Rumanian _fort_ units were going to flip to russian control as well as some of their regular forces. There was a fort adjacent to bulgaria and yugoslavia which then triggered the surrender for both of those contries. I was also dumb enough to have stacked first panzer army HQ on top of a rumanian fort, and the HQ was wiped out when the forts changed hands.

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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/14/2011 6:15:45 PM   
Baelfiin


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Status: offline 		Here is a step by step of a typical week for the germans in this game:

Festung Lublin Surrounded by russian hordes.. Fuehrer orders a counterattack!
Of course its up to the general staff to make things work...




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/14/2011 6:26:45 PM   
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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/14/2011 7:46:51 PM   
Strv103C


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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/14/2011 8:15:53 PM   
Tarhunnas


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ORIGINAL: Strv103C

What date is it?


Unless the picture is manipulated, I would guess at Sep 30 1943.

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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/14/2011 10:03:35 PM   
Baelfiin


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Status: offline 		Yeah I guess I should have made that a little bit more clear 8)



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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/16/2011 4:15:32 PM   
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Mud has arrived ... I need a breather for sure.
The red army has taken koenigsberg, torching all of the factories there. Too bad the germans can't move factories !!
In this picture every single attack that I was able to hold was at 1.2:1 odds or thereabouts. While I think the change to the 1:1 rule was good for '43 and beyond, I am not so sure about '42.
If my army holds up I have drawn in where I want to be at when the spring of '44 arrives.




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/16/2011 4:38:54 PM   
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I was forced to redeploy the last of my mobile forces from southern Hungary to Poland to and East Prussia to help deal with Red Army progress.
In the Lublin area the operation to free the trapped Panzer divisions was successful, however there was not enough strength left to then reestablish the line.
Rather than risk more encirclements on turn 121, I chose to consolidate my defenses a little in order to avoid pockets last turn that I would not be able to break in the mud this turn. Looking forward to 3 weeks of rest before the winter storm of doom.




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/16/2011 4:56:58 PM   
Baelfiin


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Holding on by fingernails, forced to put panzers in the line to hold. Hungarians holding strong still in the mountains, they need to make it through till the winter. If the russians get loose the river defenses will crumble quickly as there is nothing left that can make a stand in the open ground that can be spared.




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/16/2011 5:11:01 PM   
Baelfiin


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Nothing fancy here, I have to hold the corner on the south edgeand then delay my way back to the mountains on the line. Hopefully I will be able to slow the russians long enough in the the spring I will have lots of mountains left to defend in.
Nothing left to fight with down here except for a couple ss brigades and a couple INF divisions that havent been gutted. My outlook for success down here is bleak.




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/16/2011 11:25:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Baelfiin

While I think the change to the 1:1 rule was good for '43 and beyond, I am not so sure about '42.



Gotcha ;)
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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/16/2011 11:32:00 PM   
Baelfiin


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Status: offline 		Check the Fall Blau pic I posted

besides I have been begging for help for my russians forever =p

I am sure you are going to have some fun for the next 12 turns

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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/16/2011 11:46:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for posting this. It's great to finally see this part of the war and how things work when the German is forced back into the Reich.

Keeping fighting!! And keep posting!

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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/17/2011 1:53:29 AM   
Baelfiin


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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/19/2011 3:26:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Baelfiin

Check the Fall Blau pic I posted

besides I have been begging for help for my russians forever =p

I am sure you are going to have some fun for the next 12 turns


Fall Blau v impressive. Tx for the template for me to follow

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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/22/2011 5:34:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 129 December 2nd, 1943

The Soviet winter offensive is in full swing!! My armies are melting under the blowtorch of attacks.
A couple of panzer divisions have shown up to help but they are not nearly enough. So far we have not allowed a beakthrough, but how long that will remain true is up in the air.

I am being plagued by lack of fuel deliveries to the panzers, and am resorting to hq buildups to make sure I am fully fueled for the next turns counterrattacks that I will need to do.




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/24/2011 3:36:34 PM   
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As 1943 draws to a close I find that the russian steamroller is starting to gain speed. My southern flank in rumania is holding on only becuase the Reds can't chase me fast enough.

The Hungarians are starting to waver, a breakthrough into north Hungary is imminent. Once that happens Hoooper is going to have a lot of fun blitzing me back into the stone age.

In southern poland around Krakow, I am out of dudes to put into the line. I am trying to use a hedgehog and counterattack with panzer strategy, but that wont be able to hold the russians for very long.

Reds pincers cut off most of a panzer corp (again) and just barely fail on another. Counterattacks will restore the line here, but while im doing this the border area of hungary gets no help. To make matters worse it wil be hard to slide troops around in there because of the mountains.

Around warsaw, 4th panzer army is holding strong, but at the expense of using panzer divisions in the line to defend.

On the coast, 16th and 9th armies are fighting tenaciously. Hold at all costs orders have been given out, this is the shortest my line can get up here.

Overall having a blast trying to see how long I can hold out. If I can make it to spring with the Vistula line intact and no major disasters in hungary I may be able to make it into '45. My prediction is that the Hungarian front is going to shatter like a cheap china vase, and that I am going to be on the run.

*** edit *** fixed picture, uploaded t129 instead of 132!!




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/24/2011 3:59:46 PM   
Baelfiin


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Status: offline 		For anyone that is curious here are the OOB's, losses and Pools. This game was started with 1.04.18 iirc so take the numbers with a grain of salt.




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/24/2011 5:32:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't forget to put 3 beat up German divisions in Budapest before the Soviets get the to trigger cities for Hungarian surrender.

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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/24/2011 5:41:17 PM   
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Don't forget to put 3 beat up German divisions in Budapest before the Soviets get the to trigger cities for Hungarian surrender.

Good call.. I have been putting it off but the time has come

In the meantime, III panzer corp is bringing the rain.......




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/24/2011 5:53:39 PM   
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Russians go flying ... Germans take a lot of losses




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/24/2011 6:33:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Stretching the line....

After extended heavy fighting to the south III panzer corps cannot get back to its defensive positions around warsaw.

Grossdeutschland and Wiking are forced to abandon their positions to cover Warsaw, and the rest of 46 panzer corp has to slide south to fill the hole that was left.

Net result: stiuation somewhat restored south of warsaw, but the north side has to give up ground becuase the panzers have to leave the immediate area to put out the fires to the south.




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The Logistics Phase is like Black Magic and Voodoo all rolled into one.

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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/24/2011 11:53:46 PM   
Baelfiin


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Status: offline 		Russians bring some rain of their own......

Vicious street fighting erupts in warsaw as the Red Army storms across the frozen Vistula

325k dudes and almost 7400 guns, Impressive ! Best division in the german army holds the line however.




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/25/2011 12:09:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hungarian collapse begins ... Russians have a hole in the mountains and nothing in front of them




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RE: Defense of the Reich '43+ - 11/25/2011 12:25:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		The rest of the Hungarian front does not look any better...




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