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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/9/2012 11:28:43 AM   
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After changing over Jocke got the jitters about this patch. He may be right that there are still issues that are unresolved with air coordination and air support for large bases.

This brought up some interesting issues. Obviously I don't want the extra intel to be given to the Allies every turn about whether my air groups have moved to previously empty bases. Every Japanese player has been dealing with this since the beginning, and some have figured out ways of using it to their advantage. It's incredibly important to be able to surprise the Allied forces in order to combat their better quality and numbers. So I'll now have to get creative about how I do this.

The other stuff would have really helped both of us. You could argue that the coastal routing benefits the Japanese more, but really it could help the Allies quite a bit as the game moves on in terms of being sneaky.

I may be a bit confused about differences for level 9 bases in the new versions of the beta. I had thought they were supposed to reduce the number of planes able to stack at a level 9 base, helping fix the overstocking issue. Maybe it's just the support that was fixed, making it necessary to have more than the 250 air support for these bases? Anyway, I'll have to get some counsel about this.

Jocke doesn't think having 400+ fighters, 250 2E bombers (and at times 100+ 4E bombers) plus 150 auxiliary planes at Portland Roads to be overstocking. I may be wrong in saying this kind of place is not plausible. What to you guys think? I know at least this kind of situation has caused problems in the past. For both sides. Thoughts? Were there Allied bases that handled up to 800 or 1,000 planes? Maybe the Marianas bases? I looked online for numbers but couldn't find any.

So, for now back to normal. The next turn is sent again in the official patch.

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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/9/2012 11:44:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'd say that the latest beta have not touched the administrative stacking levels of the air bases, they just have doubled the aviation support when a level 8 AF is reached. So yes, you now no longer can count of the 250 AV support limit (was too cheese indeed) but for big bases (level 8>) the aviation support you actually have is doubled by default, so provided you don't overstack, you are gonna have easier times to support a large plane concentration.

I have imposed to myself to never overstack and to always keep the aviation support in reasonable terms. Which doesn't mean it never goes "red", but, for example, if i have 48 AV points (2 base forces in DBB scenario OOB), i tend to place in that base not more than 60 engines.

Brad seems to be doing the same, even if this hasn't been coded in a precise HR. Having seen in my previous game what happens when you try to "game the game", i cannot but be happy about this selfimposed HR. Our Air battles, till now, have been scarse, but very realistic. Fewer planes involved, much more realistic results.

So yes, i strongly suggest you both to upgrade.

Also i'm not experiencing any of the coordination problems Joc seems to be having. With the very latest beta my bombers do never coordinate at 100%, but the 60/70 % of them do and that is a pretty reasonable result if you ask me.


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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/9/2012 12:08:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the clear explanation of the change. I have trouble with these things as I rarely ever have the need (yet) to max out a big base, and I do realize the penalties for doing this at a smaller place. I've tried to keep myself in the same territory as you here. Not too much outside of a support unit's ability. The moral change can really suck when it also affects your fighters.

Glad to hear no coordination issues. I'll check in my test scenarios. I have it all loaded up now so it's easy to input and run through 10 or so in an hour.



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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/9/2012 4:22:58 PM   
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SUBS: A bad few days. Two midgets are lost and one fleet sub. To be expected. He finally came out with ASW to hit one of the far-ranging subs that moved to get in lanes to Terapo after that invasion.

SOUTH PACIFIC: Bettys again sortied at night, again got to target, and again dropped bombs on water. Any idea why the same group would use bombs one day and TT the next, when TT are available and no settings are changed?

I had moved a group into Port Moresby to try to get this base re-opened. Three Jacks groups were here for day one to take the brunt of Allied sweeps with lots of help from LR CAP. The Jacks took the brunt of the Allied attacks, and I lost 25 of them. The other fighters did get to the Corsairs for the first time though, and 22 are listed lost on the day, 19 in A to A. Getting CAP up in numbers and unannounced is obviously key.

He sent waves of bombers to Buna today though, and that base is now closed. They came in low though, and the barrage-balloons took out a good number of 4E and some 2E bombers. On the day about 22 4E are listed as losses! Over 50 were damaged in the attack by balloons or flak.

NORTH PACIFIC: Nothing.

WEST OZ: Nothing going on over here. Allied fighters moved back from Carnarvon

BURMA: Nothing moving.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 15, 43
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ASW attack near Vanua Lava at 121,148

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-38, hits 4, heavy damage

Allied Ships
LCT-327
LCT-325
LCT-158
LCT-153
LCT-128
LCT-63
AM Kapunda

SSX Ha-38 is sighted by escort
AM Kapunda attacking submerged sub ....
Sounds of submarine breaking up detected!
Escort abandons search for sub

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Night Air attack on TF, near Portland Roads at 91,132

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 7



Allied aircraft
P-70 Havoc x 6


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CA Salt Lake City

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 2000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
15th FG/6th NFS with P-70 Havoc (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes

Some CAP have air radar

Night Air attack on TF, near Portland Roads at 91,132

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 8



Allied aircraft
P-70 Havoc x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CA Salt Lake City



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 2000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
15th FG/6th NFS with P-70 Havoc (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000
Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 20
J2M2 Jack x 49
N1K1-J George x 10
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 4 destroyed

Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 17
J2M2 Jack x 24
N1K1-J George x 7
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
J2M2 Jack: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 8
J2M2 Jack x 17
N1K1-J George x 6
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 21
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 6


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Buna , at 99,129

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 29
LB-30 Liberator x 3
B-24D Liberator x 53
B-24D1 Liberator x 92
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 4 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 21 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 29 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 42
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 108

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Buna , at 99,129

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft
Hudson III (LR) x 9
Mitchell II x 22
B-25C Mitchell x 38
B-25D1 Mitchell x 70


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Mitchell II: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 5 damaged


Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 20
J2M2 Jack x 39
N1K1-J George x 7
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 51 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 4
J2M2 Jack x 11
N1K1-J George x 5
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 20

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed


Ground combat at Terapo (96,127)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8787 troops, 106 guns, 167 vehicles, Assault Value = 391

Defending force 1673 troops, 21 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 27

Allied adjusted assault: 357

Japanese adjusted defense: 21

Allied assault odds: 17 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Terapo !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
778 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 3


Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division

Defending units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
I/84th Naval Guard Unit
51st Road Const Co

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 16, 43
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Submarine attack near Portland Roads at 94,130

Japanese Ships
SS I-159, hits 16, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Doyle
DD Frankford
DD Carmick

SS I-159 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Doyle
I-159 diving deep ....
DD Frankford attacking submerged sub ....
DD Doyle fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Doyle attacking submerged sub ....
Massive explosion on SS I-159
DD Doyle attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-159 forced to surface!
DD Carmick firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Carmick firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

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ASW attack near Canton Island at 153,143

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-11, hits 7, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Stuart

SSX Ha-11 is sighted by escort
Ha-11 bottoming out ....
DD Stuart attacking submerged sub ....
Sounds of submarine breaking up detected!
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Terapo at 94,129

Japanese Ships
SS RO-34, hits 4, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Meade
DD Frankford
DD Doyle



SS RO-34 is sighted by escort
DD Frankford attacking submerged sub ....
DD Doyle fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Frankford attacking submerged sub ....
DD Frankford is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub

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Reinforcements: A few more E arrive, plus another IJAAF fighter group. This one is going to be a special naval attack unit. I'd like to try this out. It's a 36 plane group and I've just filed it with 50 exp 70 skill low nav pilots. I'm hoping against small craft especially this could work well.

E Kanju arrives at Tokyo
73rd Sentai arrives at Osaka/Kyoto
E Mikura arrives at Tokyo

Aircraft Ki-61-Id Tony advances R&D/color]

Losses: Not a good few days for subs.

Loss of SSX Ha-38 on Sep 15, 1943 is admitted
Loss of SS I-159 on Sep 16, 1943 is admitted
Loss of SSX Ha-11 on Sep 16, 1943 is admitted

Ships Sunk: Ha!

AM Outarde is reported to have been sunk near Kodiak on Jun 28, 1943

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The KB is warming up it's engines. I've quietly (I hope) gathered the entire available carrier strength of the Japanese Navy (minus Akagi repairing in Hiroshima) and they will move tomorrow into strike range. Banzai!
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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/9/2012 6:34:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I like those a2a ratios. Keep it up: rotate your units and keep on ambushing him. His numbers won't be able to sustain too many days of these losses!

Now you need to sweep Terapo to death. And bomb it every day with everything you have.

Against Rader the first time i conquered back PM with 2 divisions, he simply swept it to oblivion and then bomb it everyday with hundreds of bombers, killing all my supplies...then he marched 5 divisions from Buna and crushed me.
Don't say you should do the same, but as long as you keep Terapo shut, he won't be able to reinforce PM and provide a close CAP over his troops there

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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/12/2012 11:27:03 AM   
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SUBS: On the 17th the elite sub-hunter group of E that I've sent to the South Pacific takes out another US fleet sub near Port Moresby. The Grenadier is forced to surface and soon 'slips beneath the waves.' This is their second confirmed kill in a month.

SOUTH PACIFIC: Well, the strike I had planned to Portland Roads to hit the BBs, CAs and other ships of value there was developed for several weeks and perfectly executed except for one thing. Most of the KB didn't move into range. I had refueled and checked at Taberfane to see that DDs didn't need a top-up, based them within 20 hexes of the destination at Darwin, and sent each individually (no follow orders, which I don't trust) to their strike zone. Instead of moving the 9 required hexes two of the three TFs went 7 and 8 hexes, staying out of range but at least adding to CAP over the other ships that did make the rendezvous point. Still not sure what happened. Next time I will burn the fuel and use flank speed. Live and learn.

So a measly strike went in to Portland Roads and got butchered. It would have been bloody if the whole package had arrived as well, and as it turns out, the US BBs look to have departed. Several high value targets like modern CA/CL look to have still been around, but maybe they weren't worth losing half of the KB strike package over anyway.

The good part is that the Allies lost more planes on the day than we did. The total was about 115 to 95. Several SBD strikes went in over the CVEs and BBs sitting 7 hexes out from Portland Roads, but a CAP of over 100 A6M5 plus a handful of Georges ate them up. All of them! Only one strike came unescorted, the first viewing of Helldivers so far. Although the A6M5 is outclassed vs fighters, against 1E bombers it does quite well with the 20mm and higher durability than earlier models. I was surprised not to see more TB out here, especially the Aussie ones.

On the 18th I sent a CL/DD SAG to hunt PTs, but it only got one in two engagements in good moonlight conditions. Disappointing. I also sent DDs to hunt the contingent of landing vessels at Normanton. They got to a clutch of LCVP but missed the other TF of LCT. Grrrr.

On the 18th I kept the KB near Merauke to help protect a fast transport to top up there, but an errant strike (Judys I forgot to turn off) actually flew to Portland Roads and got through during storms to take down some LCTs and AMs. Strange and anti-climactic, but I'll take it. The I-153 finished off LCT-22 after it had already been hit from the air.

Luckily in the two days here I didn't lose more than 50 pilots. I think having a sub in the destination hex saved a good number of them.

NORTH PACIFIC: Nothing.

WEST OZ: I just realized that there is an army heading for Exmouth. It should arrive in a week or just slightly more. I've got bombardment on the way and a Helen group moving in. Doesn't look like any fighters are nearby. Exmouth forts are above 5 and moving slowly toward level 6. Not sure they'll get there though. His supply will not be good way out in the desert, so I have to start pounding these forces to make sure this at least takes as long as possible.

BURMA: Still no movement. He must be waiting until the end of the monsoon. Forts are still going up. Happy about that part.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 17, 43
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Morning Air attack on Portland Roads , at 91,132

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 25

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 19
P-38G Lightning x 28
P-38H Lightning x 36
P-39D Airacobra x 13
P-39N1 Airacobra x 27
P-40K Warhawk x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 12 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Portland Roads , at 91,132

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 154 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 46 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 65

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 19
P-38G Lightning x 28
P-38H Lightning x 36
P-39D Airacobra x 12
P-39N1 Airacobra x 27
P-40K Warhawk x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
38 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 31000 feet *
16 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 31000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Portland Roads , at 91,132

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 180 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 49 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 32

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 19
P-38G Lightning x 28
P-38H Lightning x 36
P-39D Airacobra x 12
P-39N1 Airacobra x 27
P-40K Warhawk x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Portland Roads at 91,132

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 18
B6N2 Jill x 12

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 18
P-38G Lightning x 28
P-38H Lightning x 36
P-39D Airacobra x 12
P-39N1 Airacobra x 26
P-40K Warhawk x 33


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 9 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CL Phoenix
DD Gillespie

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Portland Roads at 94,131

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 11
J2M2 Jack x 11



Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 6 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
DD Walke
DD Porter



Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 87,125

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 98
N1K1-J George x 9

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 28
SBD-5 Dauntless x 45


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed
SBD-5 Dauntless: 18 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CVE Kaiyo
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 87,125

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 56
N1K1-J George x 5

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 8
SBD-5 Dauntless x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
SBD-5 Dauntless: 6 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Portland Roads at 91,132

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 13
B6N2 Jill x 18



Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 18
P-38G Lightning x 27
P-38H Lightning x 35
P-39D Airacobra x 13
P-39N1 Airacobra x 25
P-40K Warhawk x 30


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 5 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 11 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Merauke at 87,125

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 41
N1K1-J George x 4



Allied aircraft
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 23


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 14 destroyed

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Submarine attack near Milne Bay at 101,134

Japanese Ships
E Fukue
E Asagao
E Mutsure
E Tsushima

Allied Ships
SS Grenadier, hits 33, and is sunk

SS Grenadier is located by E Fukue
Grenadier diving deep ....
E Mutsure attacking submerged sub ....
E Tsushima fails to find sub and abandons search
E Mutsure fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Mutsure attacking submerged sub ....
SS Grenadier forced to surface!
E Tsushima firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 18, 43
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Horn Island at 90,127, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Natori
CL Kiso
DD Kamikaze
DD Hatakaze
DD Yunagi

Allied Ships
PT-238
PT-239
PT-240
PT-241
PT-242
PT-243
PT-244
PT-245
PT-246
PT-247
PT-248
PT-249, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Improved night sighting under 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 82% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 10,000 yards
PT-249 sunk by CL Natori at 10,000 yards
CL Kiso engages PT-240 at 7,000 yards
CL Natori engages PT-238 at 7,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Sub attack near Truk at 110,103

Japanese Ships
xAKL Yosyu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SC CHa-65
SC CHa-12
xAKL Tensyo Maru
PB Menado Maru

Allied Ships
SS Scamp

SS Scamp launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Yosyu Maru
PB Menado Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Menado Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Menado Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Menado Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Menado Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Night Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 25

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 19 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 5000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 9

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 5000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 8


Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 1000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 5

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 5000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 6

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 5000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Sub attack near Truk at 110,103

Japanese Ships
xAKL Yamayuri Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SC CHa-65
SC CHa-12
xAKL Zuiho Maru
xAKL Yamabuki Maru
xAKL Shuko Maru
PB Menado Maru

Allied Ships
SS Scamp

SS Scamp launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Yamayuri Maru
Scamp diving deep ....
PB Menado Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Menado Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Menado Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Normanton at 86,138, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Yugumo
DD Suzunami

Allied Ships
LCVP 532F, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCVP 532G, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCVP 532H, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LCVP 532J, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCVP 532K, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCVP 532L, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCVP 532M, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCVP 532N, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
LCVP 532P, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 18,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards
LCVP 532P sunk by DD Yugumo at 15,000 yards
Massive explosion on LCVP 532H
Range closes to 3,000 yards
LCVP 532J sunk by DD Yugumo at 3,000 yards
LCVP 532K sunk by DD Yugumo at 3,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Portland Roads at 94,131

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 4 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
DD Porter, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Walke

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Portland Roads at 91,132

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 107 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 6
D4Y1 Judy x 43

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 19
P-38G Lightning x 64
P-38H Lightning x 53
P-39D Airacobra x 13
P-39N1 Airacobra x 26
P-40K Warhawk x 33
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
D4Y1 Judy: 8 destroyed, 7 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
LCT-364
AM Junee, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
LST-22, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
LST-19
AM Jan van Amstel, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
LST-20
AM Stawell, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
LST-17, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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Submarine attack near Portland Roads at 91,132

Japanese Ships
SS I-153

Allied Ships
LST-22, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

LST-22 is sighted by SS I-153
SS I-153 launches 2 torpedoes at LST-22

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Reinforcements: These two HQa will round out our New Guinea defenses.

13th Air Fleet arrives at Saigon
28th Air Flotilla arrives at Saigon
North China Gsn Brigade arrives at Peiping

Losses: These two xAKLs are the first losses to Allied subs in a while.

Loss of xAKL Yosyu Maru on Sep 18, 1943 is admitted
Loss of xAKL Yamayuri Maru on Sep 18, 1943 is admitted

Ships Sunk: Nice to get the decent US DD and the confirmed sub. The rest obviously just means less mouse-clicking for Jocke!

SS Grenadier is reported to have been sunk near Milne Bay on Sep 17, 1943
SS Hoe is reported to have been sunk near Batan Island on Jul 17, 1943
Previous report of sinking of SS Haddo incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
DD Porter is reported to have been sunk near Portland Roads on Sep 18, 1943
LST-22 is reported to have been sunk near Portland Roads on Sep 18, 1943
PT-249 is reported to have been sunk near Horn Island on Sep 18, 1943
LCVP 532F is reported to have been sunk near Normanton on Sep 18, 1943
LCVP 532G is reported to have been sunk near Normanton on Sep 18, 1943
LCVP 532H is reported to have been sunk near Normanton on Sep 18, 1943
LCVP 532J is reported to have been sunk near Normanton on Sep 18, 1943
LCVP 532K is reported to have been sunk near Normanton on Sep 18, 1943
LCVP 532L is reported to have been sunk near Normanton on Sep 18, 1943
LCVP 532M is reported to have been sunk near Normanton on Sep 18, 1943
LCVP 532N is reported to have been sunk near Normanton on Sep 18, 1943
LCVP 532P is reported to have been sunk near Normanton on Sep 18, 1943

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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/12/2012 11:58:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, in these cases i wonder if those (like Castor Troy), who argue it's always the best option to have a single CVTF, are really right.
And i also discovered the TFs in "mission speed" mode, very seldom do what you expect them to do... at least at full speed you know they're gonna run as best as they can

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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/12/2012 12:23:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Well, in these cases i wonder if those (like Castor Troy), who argue it's always the best option to have a single CVTF, are really right.
And i also discovered the TFs in "mission speed" mode, very seldom do what you expect them to do... at least at full speed you know they're gonna run as best as they can


Yes. Flank speed. This is my latest lesson learned. I must have always had good luck with mission speed run-ins previously, so I never considered this outcome.

I would love them to be in the same TF but I think at this point they would coordinate less effectively and I have the rather positive issue of having too many CVs to do this practically.


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RE: Allied Atoll Invasion at Canton Island!! - 11/12/2012 1:16:31 PM   
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Canton Island Invasion Repulsed!

SUBS: Midget subs warned of the oncoming tide at Canton Island. Two were smothered in DCs by Allied escorts and perished, but not before giving some good intel.

CENTRAL PACIFIC: As Jocke picks up the pace Canton Island is invaded. I had noticed some ships here a few days previous, and began getting air assets ready for a response. Due to plans to attack Portland Roads little was available. I began moving some down from the HI, but they didn't arrive in time. Jocke flooded in on the 20th with a full invasion force.

Fortunately our troops did very well here! He looks to have done all he could, with bombardments on the day and good troops here, but the invasion was brutally repulsed, with what I believe to be one tank battalion completely destroyed! One failing may have been that no air assault was launched here.

This means the base will decisively hold. The question is should I counter-attack? I will not tomorrow, but I'm interested to see what state the troops are in here. He may simply withdraw, which seems his best option. If not, do we have enough to not just survive but win the battle here? Likely not, but considering the state Allied troops must be in, I think we have more raw AV, virtually no disruption and only one unit fatigued in the 30s. It could be possible to push them back into the sea.

Anyway, tomorrow will likely be quiet, but then I'll have to see what course to take here. As it is, a minor but very satisfying success!

SOUTH PACIFIC: Sweeps hit Terapo on both days and a bombing run went in on the 20th, getting very lucky he had his CAP set so high. We got under to land some hits on the fields and hopefully slow building here. The sweeping turned out evenly, but we're getting to a lot of the 2nd generation fighters here and at Port Moresby. A layered CAP of A6M5 does surprisingly well against the P-38s, getting to at least 15-17 of them on the day for 23 losses.

NORTH PACIFIC: Nothing happening.

WEST OZ: The Aussies moved within one hex of Exmouth. The BBs are a few days out and bombing should commence in two days from the air.

BURMA: Nothing.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 19, 43
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ASW attack near Canton Island at 154,144

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-9, hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Braine
CA Minneapolis
CA Chester
CLAA San Juan
CLAA San Diego
DD Claxton
AM Tumult
AM Strive
AM Pursuit
APA Custer
APA Bolivar
APA La Salle
APA Warren
APA Zeilin
AKA Centarus
DD Foote
DD Dyson
DD Dashiell
DD Converse

SSX Ha-9 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Braine
Ha-9 diving deep ....
DD Foote fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Foote fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Foote fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Foote attacking submerged sub ....
Large oil slick appears over area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Peleliu at 88,100

Japanese Ships
TK Katsukawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Kinrei Maru
PB Kogyoku Maru

Allied Ships
SS Trout

SS Trout launches 2 torpedoes at TK Katsukawa Maru
Trout diving deep ....
PB Kogyoku Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Canton Island at 153,143

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-10

Allied Ships
DD Stuart
SC-750

SSX Ha-10 is located by DD Stuart
Ha-10 bottoming out ....
DD Stuart fails to find sub and abandons search
SC-750 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-750 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Night Air attack on Townsville , at 92,144

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 5


Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 5000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Townsville , at 92,144

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 6

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 4 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 4 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed on ground
B-25D1 Mitchell: 2 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 5000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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ASW attack near Canton Island at 153,143

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-10, hits 7, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Stuart
SC-750

SSX Ha-10 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Stuart
Ha-10 bottoming out ....
DD Stuart fails to find sub and abandons search
SC-750 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC-750 attacking submerged sub ....
Large oil slick appears over area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 23

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 23


Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 24

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 2


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 31000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x J2M2 Jack sweeping at 20000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 32

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x J2M2 Jack sweeping at 20000 feet *


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 20, 43
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ASW attack near Canton Island at 153,143

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-8, hits 2, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis
CA Chester
CLAA San Juan
CLAA San Diego
DD Claxton
AM Tumult
AM Strive
AM Requisite
APA Custer
APA La Salle
APA Wayne
APA Zeilin
AKA Centarus
DD Foote
DD Dyson
DD Dashiell
DD Converse

SSX Ha-8 is sighted by escort
DD Foote fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Foote fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Foote attacking submerged sub ....
Debris floats to surface in area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Canton Island at 153,143

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-15, hits 8, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Bush
DD Brownson
DD Pringle
DD Hutchins

SSX Ha-15 is sighted by escort
DD Pringle fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hutchins attacking submerged sub ....
Underwater explosion, debris and oil appear on surface!
Escort abandons search for sub

Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 41
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 22


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 28

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 18


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 22


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 31000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 31000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 15

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 25
F6F-3 Hellcat x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 18
J2M2 Jack x 35

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 23
F6F-3 Hellcat x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
J2M2 Jack: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 3 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x J2M2 Jack sweeping at 20000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 35

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 17
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 5 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 27

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 17
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

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Ground combat at Canton Island (153,143)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4511 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 194

Defending force 7239 troops, 103 guns, 299 vehicles, Assault Value = 325

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
5th Armored Car Co
4th Garrison Unit
52nd Naval Guard Unit
53rd Construction Battalion
50th JNAF Coy

Defending units:
767th Tank Battalion
766th Tank Battalion
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
21st Marine Regiment

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Ground combat at Canton Island (153,143)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 5919 troops, 100 guns, 271 vehicles, Assault Value = 325

Defending force 5407 troops, 26 guns, 31 vehicles, Assault Value = 190

Allied adjusted assault: 0

Japanese adjusted defense: 232

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 14 (4 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1819 casualties reported
Squads: 64 destroyed, 88 disabled
Non Combat: 92 destroyed, 56 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 57 (14 destroyed, 43 disabled)
Vehicles lost 258 (196 destroyed, 62 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Assaulting units:
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
767th Tank Battalion
766th Tank Battalion
21st Marine Regiment

Defending units:
5th Armored Car Co
4th Garrison Unit
52nd Naval Guard Unit
53rd Construction Battalion
50th JNAF Coy

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Reinforcements: These two subs will head to the Central Pacific. Nothing out there now.

SS RO-104 arrives at Hiroshima/Kure
SS RO-105 arrives at Kobe

Aircraft P1Y2 Frances advances R&D (7/44)
Device Mitsubishi Ha-43 advances R&D

Losses: Well, I knew the midgets would suffer. I just hoped they would hit something in their last moments. There are still 3 left at Canton Island.

Loss of TK Katsukawa Maru on Sep 19, 1943 is admitted
Loss of SSX Ha-9 on Sep 19, 1943 is admitted
Loss of SSX Ha-10 on Sep 19, 1943 is admitted
Loss of SSX Ha-8 on Sep 20, 1943 is admitted
Loss of SSX Ha-12 on Sep 20, 1943 is admitted
Loss of SSX Ha-15 on Sep 20, 1943 is admitted

Ships Sunk: Hmmmmm. Pretty sure Hermes should be a goner.

Previous report of sinking of CVL Hermes incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of SS Puffer incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of SS Scorpion incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
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RE: Allied Atoll Invasion at Canton Island!! - 11/12/2012 2:52:30 PM   
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RE: Allied Atoll Invasion at Canton Island!! - 11/12/2012 2:59:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Yaab

Probably half of the "tank" losses went to motorized support, wich are vehicles too.


I assume you're correct. How many tanks in a US tank battalion? 60-70? Then probably another 60-70 motorized support. Plus vehicles for the marine regiment support as well. Maybe 70 more? Not sure, just guessing here away from the game computer. Would the combat engineers have motorized support?

So thinking 65 tanks each = 130 total. Another 130 motorized support for the tanks. Then another 70 for the marines. So that's 260 total.

Above, if the report can be trusted, there are 258 vehicles destroyed and 62 disabled!

My numbers must be short, but still it looks like most of the vehicles in the landing were at least put out of action if not completely destroyed. That's better than I'd thought.

Please fix my numbers if you know the actual strength of the units involved.

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RE: Allied Atoll Invasion at Canton Island!! - 11/12/2012 3:57:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very good result in Canton Island.
Those troop are for sure in no condition to attack again.
He will have to send second wave and they will start from beginning. Atoll invasion are pita.

Good luck in next days.

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RE: Allied Atoll Invasion at Canton Island!! - 11/12/2012 5:43:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wonder if Jocke wasn't fully prepped for Canton Island. Those results seem extreme considering what you had defending. Others know better than myself what is required for a successful Atoll invasion, but he might have had to bring a full division for the initial assault.

Tough call on whether to counterattack. Atoll combat simply confuses me and often when it seems like a good idea to attack, the results end up being totally the opposite of what is expected. You may not have a better opportunity to destroy this invasion force than now though. Decisions...

Either way, I'd take these initial results any day.

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RE: Allied Atoll Invasion at Canton Island!! - 11/12/2012 6:12:44 PM   
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Tough call on whether to counterattack. Atoll combat simply confuses me and often when it seems like a good idea to attack, the results end up being totally the opposite of what is expected. You may not have a better opportunity to destroy this invasion force than now though. Decisions...

Either way, I'd take these initial results any day.



I agree with SqzMyLemon, although I do feel you won't get a better opportunity to counter attack.

Be brave, shut your eyes and CHARGE!!!

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RE: Allied Atoll Invasion at Canton Island!! - 11/12/2012 6:53:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the comments guys. I just ran the turn and he evacuated all of it, so it must have been pretty bad on his side. No Allies left on the island. I sent in Emilys to give a try at him in case the CAP wasn't up, but they were annihilated by the protecting CVE planes.

After the encouragement I was planning to counter attack if he left it there, just for the record.

Anyway, a good first defense of the Central Pacific. We'll see if he's got anything else on the table out here?

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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/12/2012 7:41:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		To be honest Erik: who cares to counterattack? A couple of tank bns and a regiment? This isn't a big prize considering the risk of a counterattack.
You won this battle. Hands down. Take it and dig in even deeper!

How's your suplly situation at Canton Is.? How many supllies did the shock attack sucked?

Great achievement btw! Kudos!!

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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/12/2012 10:56:59 PM   
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To be honest Erik: who cares to counterattack? A couple of tank bns and a regiment? This isn't a big prize considering the risk of a counterattack.
You won this battle. Hands down. Take it and dig in even deeper!

How's your suplly situation at Canton Is.? How many supllies did the shock attack sucked?

Great achievement btw! Kudos!!


Thanks GJ. Amazingly I had just left a dump there less than a month ago, so it's still relatively flush at 7.5k supply after everything.

Only one tank battalion. The other vaporized. But you're probably right. I won't get the chance to make a choice either way as they're gone for now. I kind of wonder if he'll even try out here anymore. I'd be pleased if he did. Baker would be much easier, with only 90 AV and no 'tanks' at all. Most of the other atolls will be tougher than Canton Island, at least in terms of forces and forts. We'll see.

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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/12/2012 11:48:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		When dug in and reasonably well supplied it takes a lot of effort to take one of these places, a bit like in real life!

Digging in is your friend as the Japanese on the defensive level 6 is very nice, I'd like to see how much the levels 7-9 forts go to evaluate the extra effort and cost. I think a defence in depth though is bettr (multiple bases at a lower defensive level) than just one well dub in layer (which when "cracked" means the enemy is quickly into the soft underbelly).

At this time of the war as Japanese I think you need to change your mindset from "winning" or "defeating" the enemy to seeing your mere existance as the highest victory acahieveable. Every day the home islands are not under air attack, and you are still getting fuel / oil home, is a victory.

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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/13/2012 7:00:34 AM   
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When dug in and reasonably well supplied it takes a lot of effort to take one of these places, a bit like in real life!

Digging in is your friend as the Japanese on the defensive level 6 is very nice, I'd like to see how much the levels 7-9 forts go to evaluate the extra effort and cost. I think a defence in depth though is bettr (multiple bases at a lower defensive level) than just one well dub in layer (which when "cracked" means the enemy is quickly into the soft underbelly).

At this time of the war as Japanese I think you need to change your mindset from "winning" or "defeating" the enemy to seeing your mere existance as the highest victory acahieveable. Every day the home islands are not under air attack, and you are still getting fuel / oil home, is a victory.

Cheers
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Thanks Rob.

I'm learning this from your game in fact. The constant set-up and collapse of layers with another behind is something I'm definitely going to try to achieve. All of the major bases in Burma now are at level 5 or 6 forts. Mandalay is at 7. Pegu is my only real straggler at 3.7 or so and building frantically.

In other areas I'm a bit behind but building. The Solomons got most of my attention for a while and now I have to catch up in New Guinea.

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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/14/2012 12:36:34 PM   
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SUBS: On the 21st Balao takes out a supply carrying Aden class Shanghai Maru North of Truk. This route hasn't been overly policed by the US subs, so I'm guessing a new strategy is in place. I will have to adjust ASW and transports accordingly.

On the 22nd near Guam the AMC Kongo Maru is hit by Tinosa but has very minor damage and continues on delivering an air HQ to Hollandia. Whew!

SOUTH PACIFIC: On the 21st I tried some small night attacks on Terapo, but the NF Havocs protected it well. I'm struggling to get escorts lined up and sweeps for Terapo that fly.

Tojos defend Milne Bay with everything they have, but can't keep the base from being shut down by 4Es. At Port Moresby 2Es close it without interference.

On the 22nd Kates from Ndeni decide to go for PTs that have been in range and not attacked for over a month, losing a bunch of escorting Rex and Kates. Grrrr.

The 23rd saw a group of Helens hit Terapo without escort but actually got mostly through the CAP to put hits on the fields. Lucky there. I'm flying some Oscars over as IJNAF groups refuse to fly for their army buddies. In fact they're on strike lately it seems as only one group flew out of three set to sweep on the 23rd. Zeros did not fare well alone.

NORTH PACIFIC: Ships are moving in to begin troops pull-backs for the winter.

WEST OZ: Planes begin hitting Aussie troops near Exmouth and get at least one good bit of info. Two Aussie divisions here, the 3rd and 7th. On the 23rd BBs wreck havoc and get 354 casualties, hopefully disrupting the troops a bit on their way through the desert. The BBs will be sent to expend their ammo tomorrow before returning to Koepang for a refill. I need to make sure to get a few good hits on these forces once they are actually in Exmouth, so I'll set up rotating bombardment groups. No naval presence is seen, but that doesn't mean they are not near. The KB 1 TF with five fleet CVs is providing cover for now.

BURMA: Nothing still! I'm beginning to wonder here. The later he moves the better for me though, so I'm not complaining.

CENTRAL PACIFIC: A pretty large CAP, suggesting not just CVEs in the area, skewered a group of Emilys trying to strike the remnants of the invasion force picking up the shattered Allied units on the 21st. I lost 14 of the flying boats! Expensive.

All Allied troops are off the island now, and ours are drinking through leftover crates of coca cola and eating spam!

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 21, 43
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Night Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9

Allied aircraft
P-70 Havoc x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 2000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Some CAP have air radar

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Night Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 8

Allied aircraft
P-70 Havoc x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses



Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 2000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 6

Allied aircraft
P-70 Havoc x 3


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 153,143

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
H8K1 Emily x 17


Allied aircraft
Martlet IV x 2
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 167

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K1 Emily: 8 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 36
LB-30 Liberator x 6
B-24D Liberator x 50
B-24D1 Liberator x 119
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 12


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Airbase hits 36
Airbase supply hits 18
Runway hits 86

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
203rd Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 20 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Hudson III (LR) x 9
Mitchell II x 28
B-25C Mitchell x 60
B-25D1 Mitchell x 75

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 25
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 76

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Mitchell II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 9

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 6


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Milne Bay , at 101,133

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6


No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Sub attack near Agrihan at 112,84

Japanese Ships
xAK Shanghai Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Osaka Maru
E W-7

Allied Ships
SS Balao, hits 2

SS Balao launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Shanghai Maru
Balao diving deep ....
E W-7 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E W-7 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 22, 43
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Sub attack near Guam at 104,93

Japanese Ships
AMC Kongo Maru, Torpedo hits 1 Only 10 float - 9 engine damage from this hit!
E Tsuta
AMC Saigon Maru
DD Okinami
E W-29

Allied Ships
SS Tinosa

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

SS Tinosa launches 4 torpedoes at AMC Kongo Maru
Tinosa diving deep ....
DD Okinami fails to find sub and abandons search
E W-29 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Torres Islands at 120,147

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 7
N1K1 Rex x 9



Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 16


Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed
N1K1 Rex: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 24

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 19
F6F-3 Hellcat x 17


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 4 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 22, 43
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Morning Air attack on 3rd Australian Division, at 50,130 , near Exmouth

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Australian Division ...

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Naval bombardment of Exmouth at 50,130

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
BB Yamato
BB Nagato
BB Hiei

Allied ground losses:
354 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)


BB Ise firing at 7th Australian Division
BB Yamashiro firing at 7th Australian Division
BB Fuso firing at 3rd Australian Division
BB Yamato firing at 3rd Australian Division
BB Nagato firing at 3rd Australian Division
BB Hiei firing at 7th Australian Division

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Afternoon Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 27

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 31
F6F-3 Hellcat x 26


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed

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Reinforcements: I'm really looking forward already to the next 'service level 2' George version. It's tough to keep them in the air without an air HQ and lots of support. The Tabby will help with the IJN groups.

xAK Shichiyo Maru arrives at Fukuoka
xAK Daihaku Maru arrives at Kagoshima
xAK Tatsuhiro Maru arrives at Saigon

Aircraft Ki-43-IIIa Oscar advances R&D (2/44)
Aircraft N1K2-J George advances R&D (6/44)
Aircraft L2D2 Tabby advances R&D (building now)

Losses: Midgets did nothing at Canton Island. No hits out of 8 deployed.

Loss of xAK Shanghai Maru on Sep 21, 1943 is admitted
Loss of SSX Ha-7 on Sep 21, 1943 is admitted

Ships Sunk: Nothing new.

xAK Lew Wallace is reported to have been sunk near Anchorage on Jun 20, 1943
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Shanghai Maru SS was a Japanese Passsenger Vessel of 5,252 tons built in 1923 by William Denny & Brothers, Dumbarton, Yard No 1138 for Nippon Yusen Kaisha, Tokyo, Japan. In 1939 she was purchased by Toa Kaiun KK, Tokyo, Japan.

Interestingly, the 'Aden Class' in game seems to incorporate a number of different types of vessels of very different style and origin.
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RE: Allied Invasion! - 11/14/2012 3:09:16 PM   
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I had a quick question. I see you use midget subs quite a bit. I basically ignored them in my previous games but in this game I have tried to use them and I can't seem to get them to deploy. How do you deploy them from the midget carrier? I can see the midget loaded but can never get it out of the parent sub! I have tried everything I can think of. I have a feeling this is something every JFB knows but me!

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/14/2012 7:18:40 PM   
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Hello Obvert

I had a quick question. I see you use midget subs quite a bit. I basically ignored them in my previous games but in this game I have tried to use them and I can't seem to get them to deploy. How do you deploy them from the midget carrier? I can see the midget loaded but can never get it out of the parent sub! I have tried everything I can think of. I have a feeling this is something every JFB knows but me!


When you deploy them on a mothership you get to the destination and then make a new midget sub TF, which should split it off. Then you send it where you can, which is usually not far.

I've had no success with deploying them from subs, and in fact lost two subs getting in close trying to drop them. It's a bit of risk for the small potential gain, but kind of fun to see if can work.

I've had some marginal success using them in a defensive role. Just building them at a base and deploying them nearby. I've had 3 hits I think using them that way. I didn't get any hits out of 8 midgets at Canton Island though, so with a large invasion force I'm not sure they're going to work much. You never know though.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/14/2012 8:15:18 PM   
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That sounds easy enough. I was getting frustrated, all I managed to do in using midgets was to loose two mother ships trying to get into an area to use them. I like the idea of using them for port defense, I always thought of using them offensively but I think port defense may be a better option.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/15/2012 3:51:40 PM   
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SUBS: Seawolf got one direct hit from ASW Es and had an 'on fire' listing after the attack. That sounds like a bad thing when it's still under water.

SOUTH PACIFIC: I'm trying to keep the pressure up on Terapo, but I will not get this base closed anytime soon, and now he's brought in some SeaBees. By the 26th the fields went to level 2. I simply can't keep up the sweeps with service level 3 planes. This is a good simulation of what the Japanese must have felt I'm sure.

I've begun to remedy the situation by sending over some Tojo groups from Burma. I will then get a George group sent over there, once most of the planes are back in working order. The George is definitely best in rear areas and supported by some service 1 planes.

On the 24th Jacks hit Terapo and were hit hard by the Hellcats there, losing 17 planes for 8 Hellcats. I can't fly them over 20k by our HR, but the Hellcats were layered to defend the ships in port delivering engineers, so the Jacks got some shots in against the lower levels. This worked to the advantage of the Tojos that came in after at 31k, as they got the dive on all of the out of position Helcats and went to town, downing 14 for 3 losses. So not a bad day but I can't yet get bombing runs in without losing a ton of planes, and most of the bases in range have damage on the fields that keep groups from flying due to low moral.

A few Jakes get through to hit an LST. Jills are in range and set to go but decide to take out some ASW DDs instead, getting 3 TT hits on 3 different DDs, all of which are reported sunk. So although I couldn't realistically stop him from reinforcing the base, at least something got exposed and was hit hard.

I had sent a small group of DDs to hit Normanton, and they should have gone in at flank, then sped away to almost their starting position near Gove. Instead they went 4 hexes, stopped and were sitting ducks for two air strikes of DBs from presumably Mornington Island. The Helldivers missed but the Vengences did not. Only one will be lost, but it's the Yugumo. Sick of units set correctly not responding to orders.

On the 26th Jocke relieved the tired beaten down Hellcats with Spits and P-40Ks at 15k and P-47D at 31k. My now reduced number of Tojos got almost even losses. They will step down tomorrow and I will resume sweeps in a few days.

A few squads of B-25D got hit by CAP protecting unloading shipping near Saidor. No bombs were landed. More CAP is put up in the area.

NORTH PACIFIC: Nothing.

WEST OZ: Some minimal bombing. I'm really curious how much he's bringing over here to Exmouth. I have 1250 AV under 5.6 + forts. Lots of supply. I hope he's only got the two divisions I'm seeing in bombing reports.

BURMA: Nothing. Just flying out a few Tojo reserves and sending over some Georges from So Pac.

CENTRAL PACIFIC: The invasion TFs and all supporting ships have vanished. As I have reinforcements coming soon, I will top up to the stacking limit for Baker Island in case that's on the menu as well. Canton Island is back to normal now with Jakes flying search.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 24, 43
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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 25

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 54

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VRF-1F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 9 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
VRF-3F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 10 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
VMF-441 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M2 Jack x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 39

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M2 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VRF-1F with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
15 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 33900.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
VRF-3F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 84 minutes

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Terapo at 96,127

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
LST-449, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x E13A1 Jake bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VRF-3F with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 10 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
VRF-1F with F6F-3 Hellcat (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes

Massive explosion on LST-449

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 41

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 8 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet

CAP engaged:
VRF-1F with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters between 14700 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
VRF-3F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 10 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Salamaua , at 98,127

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 48
LB-30 Liberator x 3
B-24D Liberator x 58
B-24D1 Liberator x 114
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 53
Airbase supply hits 20
Runway hits 146

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Portland Roads at 95,132

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Woodworth, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Flusser, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Morris, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Walke

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Sub attack near Deboyne Islands at 103,134

Japanese Ships
E Asagao
E Tsushima

Allied Ships
SS Seawolf, hits 1, on fire On fire? That sounds bad when it's submerged!

SS Seawolf launches 2 torpedoes at E Asagao
Seawolf diving deep ....
E Tsushima attacking submerged sub ....
E Tsushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 25, 43
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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29



Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 29


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *

CAP engaged:
VF-35 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 9 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters to 32000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
VMF-111 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
VMF-441 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Salamaua , at 98,127

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 24



Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 44
LB-30 Liberator x 3
B-24D Liberator x 52
B-24D1 Liberator x 99
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 85

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gove at 83,129

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes


Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 12
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 18


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Suzunami
DD Yugumo
DD Nenohi



Aircraft Attacking:
13 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gove at 83,129

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes


Allied aircraft
Vengeance I x 12
P-39D Airacobra x 13


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Suzunami
DD Yugumo, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Nenohi, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires


Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Vengeance I releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x Vengeance I releasing from 4000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x Vengeance I releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Fubuki(I) class DD

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 26, 43
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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23



Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 22
P-40K Warhawk x 12
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 11


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3



Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 15
P-40K Warhawk x 5
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 10


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed



CAP engaged:
No.75 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
318th FG/73rd FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 33000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes
No.54 Sqn RAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
347th FG/339th FS with P-40K Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 29000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Saidor at 99,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
N1K1-J George x 5



Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 6


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
AK Kosin Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with N1K1-J George (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead
204 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Saidor at 99,124

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
N1K1-J George x 2

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 6


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
AK Huzikawa Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Ground combat at Port Moresby (98,130)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20012 troops, 439 guns, 246 vehicles, Assault Value = 905

Defending force 24729 troops, 212 guns, 74 vehicles, Assault Value = 806

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled


Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Assaulting units:
1st Marine Division
25th Infantry Division
754th Tank Battalion
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
1st USMC Tank Battalion
I US Amphib Corps /1

Defending units:
47th Engineer Regiment
6th Garrison Unit
22nd Division
91st Infantry Regiment
14th Garrison Unit
16th AA Regiment
30th Fld AA Gun Co
22nd JNAF AF Unit
31st Fld AA Gun Co
6th Shipping Engr Rgt /1

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Reinforcements: The subs will go to forward locations to be added to mass deployment plans based in Singers, Adak and Rabaul.

SS RO-108 arrives at Hiroshima/Kure
SS RO-109 arrives at Kobe
SS RO-110 arrives at Nagasaki/Sasebo
SS RO-111 arrives at Yokohama/Yokosuka
SS RO-112 arrives at Hiroshima/Kure
xAK Sainan Maru arrives at Osaka/Kyoto
E Amakusa arrives at Tokyo
xAK Toyoura Maru arrives at Tokyo

Losses: Not happy about losing that ship for no good purpose.

DD Yugumo

Ships Sunk: A nice haul.

DD Woodworth is reported to have been sunk near Portland Roads on Sep 24, 1943
DD Morris is reported to have been sunk near Portland Roads on Sep 24, 1943
DD Flusser is reported to have been sunk near Portland Roads on Sep 24, 1943
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SOUTH PACIFIC: Jocke sent more small landing vessels to Terapo on the 27th and our strikes take out a few during these two days.

First Jills did a good job of going in low under the CAP and took out one loaded LST, (actually only one made an attack run, but it was on the mark!). Next a few Jakes went in low and also get a small bomb hit on an LST. Later 3 more escorted Jills went in and again only one gets an attack run but does hit an LST. Good shootin!

He also sends 4 minesweeping DMS into Port Moresby, indicating he'd like to send more here by sea. That's a good thing, as there are still a good number of mines present and this is a much easier area to strike in proximity to the big air bases in the area. A new HQa is unloading in Rabaul and will be stationed there so I can host more fighters and keep that base open, or at least make it very costly to close.

On the 28th more planes are sent and get attacks on the ships at Terapo after subs finish a few off during the night. The sweeps also include my first use of the Tojo IIc! Glad it's in the arsenal now. It does well in combo with some Tojo IIa sweeping the layered CAP, mostly hitting the low Spits and P-39N1s. Several more LSTs are finished off, but it looks like they're just unloading engineer vehicles and the lack of a port might be slowing things down. More of the same if they stay through tomorrow.

SUBS: The I-2 has a field day on the 28th after I sent it to Terapo. It hits several LSTs and even shells one from the surface, landing a few 14cm hits. I've sent in four more subs to the area and a few on the retreat path in case he cuts losses and gets out. He does get a million LSTs, but now he'll have a million minus a few.

Also lost another Aden class xAK, the Liverpool Maru near Ulithi, thanks to the Grouper.

NORTH PACIFIC: No movements. Two days from the goal of getting to winter 43.

WEST OZ: Finally we know what we're facing at Exmouth. It looks like the Allies did not bring enough. After arriving in the hex they bombarded immediately and got poor results. The Americal division looks a bit down-trodden after naval bombardments. I've got another moving in hopefully tomorrow.

So he has 4 divisions, 4 tank units of 60AV each, 4 Arty units and 1 HQ. Even if healthy these will not be over 2k AV, but they'll be attacking level 5 forts and about 1250 AV before adjustments. Not much terrain bonus though.

BURMA: Still no movement. Not that I want him to go, but what is he waiting for?

CENTRAL PACIFIC: Baker Island is now nearly to 150 AV as another Naval Guard is setting up there. More troops arrive in the next month that will fill out other bases that are light on units now. Everything that is an atoll will have at least 150 AV I hope, some of the bigger ones will be at 300 AV.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 27, 43
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TF 282 encounters mine field at Port Moresby (98,130)

Allied Ships
DMS Wasmuth
DMS Lamberton
DMS Boggs
DMS Trevor
DMS Zane

19 mines cleared

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TF 79 encounters mine field at Terapo (96,127)

Allied Ships
AM Lark
AM Gladstone

6 mines cleared

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Sub attack near Port Moresby at 97,131

Japanese Ships
SS RO-63

Allied Ships
DMS Trevor
DMS Zane
DMS Wasmuth
DMS Lamberton

SS RO-63 launches 2 torpedoes at DMS Trevor
DMS Wasmuth fails to find sub and abandons search
DMS Lamberton fails to find sub, continues to search...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Terapo at 96,127

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 6

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 11
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
LST-465, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AM Gladstone

Allied ground losses:
436 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 20 (20 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
VRF-2F with F4U-1 Corsair (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
No.75 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
318th FG/73rd FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 33000 , scrambling fighters to 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Terapo at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 2



Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 11
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 14


Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
LST-464, Bomb hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Terapo at 96,127

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 11
B6N2 Jill x 3

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 11
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 14


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
LST-466, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 28, 43
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Submarine attack near Terapo at 96,127

Japanese Ships
SS I-2

Allied Ships
LST-459, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

LST-459 is sighted by SS I-2
SS I-2 launches 2 torpedoes at LST-459

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Sub attack near Ulithi at 102,96

Japanese Ships
xAK Liverpool Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Teiryu Maru
xAK Konan Maru
xAK Ohio Maru
PB Shonon Maru #11

Allied Ships
SS Grouper

SS Grouper launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Liverpool Maru
Grouper diving deep ....
PB Shonon Maru #11 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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TF 282 encounters mine field at Port Moresby (98,130)

Allied Ships
DMS Wasmuth
DMS Lamberton
DMS Boggs
DMS Trevor
DMS Zane

45 mines cleared

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Submarine attack near Terapo at 96,127

Japanese Ships
SS I-2

Allied Ships
LST-24, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

LST-24 is sighted by SS I-2
SS I-2 attacking LST-24 on the surface

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Submarine attack near Terapo at 96,127

Japanese Ships
SS I-2

Allied Ships
LST-464, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

LST-464 is sighted by SS I-2
SS I-2 launches 2 torpedoes at LST-464

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Submarine attack near Terapo at 96,127

Japanese Ships
SS I-2

Allied Ships
LST-466, heavy damage

LST-466 is sighted by SS I-2
Captain of SS I-2 elects not to launch torpedoes at this target

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 3
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 42
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 9
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 22

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 10
P-39N1 Airacobra x 11
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39N1 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 damaged
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VRF-2F with F4U-1 Corsair (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
No.75 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
8th FG/36th FS with P-39N1 Airacobra (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
318th FG/73rd FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (3 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 33000 , scrambling fighters to 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 18
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 27

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 10
P-39N1 Airacobra x 7
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 3 destroyed
P-39N1 Airacobra: 2 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VRF-2F with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
No.75 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (3 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
8th FG/36th FS with P-39N1 Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
318th FG/73rd FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (3 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 33000 , scrambling fighters between 26760 and 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Terapo at 96,127

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 24
G4M1 Betty x 9
N1K1-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 4
P-39N1 Airacobra x 7
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 8
F4U-1 Corsair x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 5 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
LST-462, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
LST-463, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
VRF-2F with F4U-1 Corsair (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 31000 , scrambling fighters to 31000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
No.75 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
8th FG/36th FS with P-39N1 Airacobra (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
318th FG/73rd FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 33000 , scrambling fighters to 33000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes

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Submarine attack near Terapo at 96,127

Japanese Ships
SS I-2

Allied Ships
LST-466, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


LST-466 is sighted by SS I-2
SS I-2 launches 2 torpedoes

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Ground combat at Exmouth (50,129)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 48668 troops, 698 guns, 1024 vehicles, Assault Value = 1883

Defending force 37641 troops, 426 guns, 415 vehicles, Assault Value = 1270

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
267 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Americal Infantry Division
7th Australian Division
2/7th Armoured Regiment
2/5th Armoured Regiment
2/6th Armoured Regiment
2/8th Armoured Regiment
3rd Australian Division
5th Australian Division
4th Field Artillery Battalion
1st USMC Engineer Aviation Battalion
4th RAN Base Force
III Australian
7th RAAF Base Force
113th Australian Lt AA Regiment
97th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
53rd Australian Lt AA Regiment

Defending units:
4th Tank Regiment
124th Infantry Regiment
9th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
56th Division
16th Naval Guard Unit
6th RF Gun Battalion
6th Field AF Construction Battalion
47th Field AA Battalion
7th RF Gun Battalion
23rd AA Regiment
3rd RF Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th JAAF AF Bn
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
44th Field AA Battalion
17th Army
6th JNAF Coy
97th JAAF AF Bn

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Reinforcements: For merchant ships I'm getting to the point where only TKs will be turned on now. After the ones building now I will only turn on xAKs if they are needed.

TK Eiho Maru arrives at Nagasaki/Sasebo


Losses: I've been only lightly escorting Aden convoys with supply, realizing that with their slow speed and low value I'd rather have the US subs go after these than any of the more valuable shipping in the area.

xAK Liverpool Maru

Ships Sunk: This time there is a cost to landing troops, even if it's a small one. Also, it's one of the few times during the game that I've hit troops on Allied ships.

LST-465 is reported to have been sunk near Terapo on Sep 27, 1943
LST-24 is reported to have been sunk near Terapo on Sep 28, 1943
LST-462 is reported to have been sunk near Terapo on Sep 28, 1943
LST-463 is reported to have been sunk near Terapo on Sep 28, 1943
LST-464 is reported to have been sunk near Terapo on Sep 28, 1943
LST-466 is reported to have been sunk near Terapo on Sep 28, 1943
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The Liverpool Maru. This ship is listed on wrecksite.com as part of the Taifuku Maru No.1 class built in 1919 in Kobe.
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The game is on hold again until Michaelm in the tech forum has a look and sees if something is amiss with coordination or if what we're seeing after updating to 1120b is normal. More on that later. In the meantime I'll update to where we now are.

SUBS: The S-39 gets pummeled by DDs on a bombardment hunting mission. In tow atacks it is forced to surface, then sunk by gunfire.

The I-10 gets the treatment from an Allied ASW team but looks like it can make it back with 50 float damage.

SOUTH PACIFIC: The 4 DDs that ran over and sank the S-39 went on to bombard Terapo. I was hoping to catch shipping still here, but got a decent hit on the field and planes there anyway. I'll keep this in mind. I've always discounted DDs ability to bombard, but I may have to change my mind now at least on small newly conquered fields.

Nells frustrated Jocke and me simultaneously by flying to their set max range to hit ships at Luganville without the escorts deciding to join in. One hit on CA Baltimore, which is nice, but with escort this could have been much better. He was flying at 15k and these guys were set to 1k so got through with 9 losses on the day.

NORTH PACIFIC: Winter tomorrow!

WEST OZ: Very interesting. It looks like the Aussies are turning tail again! Another bombardment hit today, and there is a movement icon on the stack. I think he must have realized supply would suck out here and he didn't have enough to do anything quickly. Score one for the Empire! This means it'll be an amphib invasion that finally roots us out. Happily I can pull back a good portion of the troops over the next months before it's likely anything of that sort is possible. More time = win for this op!

BURMA: No movement. I guess the monsoon is over on 15 October. I would have thought something would be coming by now, but not yet.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 30, 43
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ASW attack near Port Moresby at 99,132

Japanese Ships
DD Shigure
DD Akatsuki
DD Samidare

Allied Ships
SS S-39, hits 9, heavy damage

SS S-39 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Shigure
DD Akatsuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akatsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akatsuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akatsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Port Moresby at 99,132

Japanese Ships
DD Akatsuki
DD Samidare
DD Murasame

Allied Ships
SS S-39, hits 15, and is sunk

SS S-39 is sighted by escort
DD Akatsuki firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Akatsuki firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Samidare firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves


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ASW attack near Cooktown at 97,136

Japanese Ships
SS I-10, hits 10

Allied Ships
DD Fletcher
CL Denver
CL Cleveland
DD O'Bannon
DD Chevalier
DD Bache

SS I-10 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Fletcher
DD O'Bannon attacking submerged sub ....
DD Chevalier fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Bache attacking submerged sub ....
DD O'Bannon fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Chevalier fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Bache fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Bache fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Bache fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Bache fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Bache fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Night Naval bombardment of Terapo at 96,127

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 15 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 8 damaged
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 4 damaged
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed on ground
F4U-1 Corsair: 6 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground
P-70 Havoc: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
DD Akatsuki
DD Samidare
DD Murasame
DD Shigure

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 16

DD Akatsuki firing at Terapo
DD Samidare firing at Terapo
DD Murasame firing at Terapo
DD Shigure firing at Terapo

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Morning Air attack on 53rd Australian Lt AA Regiment, at 50,129 (Exmouth)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 5
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 4th RAN Base Force ...
Also attacking 53rd Australian Lt AA Regiment ...


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Luganville at 120,150

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 36

Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 16
Kittyhawk III x 10
F4U-1 Corsair x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 4 destroyed, 23 damaged
G3M3 Nell: 3 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CA Portland
CA Baltimore, Torpedo hits 1
DD McKee
DD Bradford
DD Halford

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
VMF-212 with F4U-1 Corsair (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
No.15 Sqn RNZAF with Kittyhawk III (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 2000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
No.16 Sqn RNZAF with Kittyhawk III (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
No.76 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
No.457 Sqn RAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 37000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Terapo at 96,127

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 1
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 18

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 20
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 8
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VRF-1F with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-2F with F4U-1 Corsair (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-3F with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VMF-441 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters to 38800.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
318th FG/19th FS with P-40K Warhawk (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
318th FG/73rd FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
347th FG/339th FS with P-40K Warhawk (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers

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Naval bombardment of Exmouth at 50,129 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
CA Maya

Allied ground losses:
239 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

BB Kirishima firing at 4th RAN Base Force
4th RAN Base Force firing at BB Kirishima
BB Hiei firing at 3rd Australian Division
CA Maya firing at 5th Australian Division

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Reinforcements: I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel for IJN pilots, so all of these new groups will have to be training units before anything else.

121 Ku T-1 arrives at Chiba
254 Ku S-1 arrives at Samah
263 Ku S-1 arrives at Genzan
265 Ku S-1 arrives at Kagoshima
321 Ku S-1 arrives at Chiba
381 Ku S-1 arrives at Kendari
SC CHa-67 arrives at Okayama
SS I-182 arrives at Kobe

Losses: None.

Ships Sunk: Lots of confirmed subs down lately.

SS S-39 is reported to have been sunk near Port Moresby on Sep 30, 1943
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A new defensive plan is forming for the North. I didn't really expect to hold the Aleutians for this long, but now that I have I see things a bit differently up here. Islands in range of the Kuriles and even Hokkaido (for B-29s) will get defensive priority. Shemya, Buldir, Amchitka and Adak can host B-29s effectively if built to level 7, so these bases will get priority for defense with Attu, Agattu and Ulak keeping a garrison and field running to help defend. All islands now garrisoned will keep some troops rather than simply handing them over to invite him to move down the chain. Hopefully prepping for these multiple targets will take some time, but it depends on how cautious he is going forward.
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/20/2012 5:07:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't get too scared about B-29s. They are nasty, yes, but at extremely long ranges they are voulnerable. A couple of good george and frank sentais can make their life miserable... in a couple of weeks of constant unescorted raids, the pools will run empty... they need to be escorted to be really effective

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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Don't get too scared about B-29s. They are nasty, yes, but at extremely long ranges they are voulnerable. A couple of good george and frank sentais can make their life miserable... in a couple of weeks of constant unescorted raids, the pools will run empty... they need to be escorted to be really effective


I'm a bit more worried about their night attack abilities. Even if it's a trickle of damage, there isn't much I could do to challenge from what I see coming down the line in terms of night fighters.

For the daytime I'm more concerned with them hitting all of the oil in the DEI, as well as some of the HI there. The Andamans and Sumatra are crucial as well as of course holding back the tide in Burma s long as possible to stay out of escort range, but I'll have to have the oil and industry covered by good fighter units. Only a few attacks could really hit hard there though, even with heavy losses on the Allied side. From Rangoon several important industrial and oil centers would already be in range for the B-29s. Trying to think ahead now, so I don't get too caught out.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/26/2012 10:54:32 AM   
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After a restart we're back to it again. This time I suffered a bit from the replaying of the turns. C'est la vie.

I lost the torp on CA Baltimore that came during our temporary flirtation with the new patch. Also, this time I didn't sink the S-39 and getting back into my plans has set me back a few days of ops in the South Pacific and in getting my air groups reorganized. Jocke also responded to several moves I made in turns we haven't played yet, which is a bit suspect. He threw extra DMS into the TF to clear Port Moresby, put PTs at Terapo to discourage my bombardment with DDs and threw more subs into the area near Milne Bay. Looks like a bigger CAP over Terapo as well.

I'm not happy to go back to the old official patch, losing the great fixes and extras from all of Michaelm's work. The air coordination is still not figured out and in spite of repeated efforts it seems it has not been looked at again. My feeling is that few players are using the patch at an advanced stage. Once this happens and large groups of 4E need to be used, many will realize this is not working as it has been. Michaelm says this is due to a removed bug and that it was meant to be less coordinated than it has been. If it was meant to look like it has in this version it's a very different game, with a distinct advantage to the player on the defensive side of events.

SUBS: No sub hits. I kept one at Terapo but moved the others in an arc around the base.

SOUTH PACIFIC: Lost about 75 planes on the 29th trying to hit Terapo. Not a great day. Most of these groups are heading to rear areas to refill and heal. In about 3-4 days I will be able to contest the skies again.

Lost about 35 on the 30th when I forgot to turn off another Helen group due to the restart and forgetting where I was attacking from.

WEST OZ: Allied troops land at Groote Eylant. This are looks to be a major developing focus for advance. I'm scrambling to cover and fortify bases in the SE DEI. There should be a few months until these bases are built and can catapult the Allies to the next stage.

BURMA: Prome made forts 6. I'll keep it going as I have a big shipment of supply less than a week away. He hasn't bombed anything over here in several months, which is great for me.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 29, 43
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Night Naval bombardment of Exmouth at 50,129

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
BB Yamato
BB Nagato


Allied ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 12 (3 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 19 (2 destroyed, 17 disabled)


BB Ise firing at Americal Infantry Division
BB Yamashiro firing at 5th Australian Division
BB Fuso firing at 7th Australian Division
E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BB Yamato
BB Yamato firing at 3rd Australian Division
BB Nagato firing at Americal Infantry Division

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TF 282 encounters mine field at Port Moresby (98,130)

Allied Ships
DMS Wasmuth
DMS Lamberton
DMS Boggs
DMS Trevor
DMS Zane

70 mines cleared
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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 111 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 3
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 41
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 13
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 23


Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 20
F4U-1 Corsair x 24
F6F-3 Hellcat x 49


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VRF-1F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 14 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-2F with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 13 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VRF-3F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 12 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
318th FG/73rd FS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 10 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 149 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 7
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 27

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 16
F4U-1 Corsair x 24
F6F-3 Hellcat x 48

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet *
17 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 110 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 59
G4M1 Betty x 20
J2M2 Jack x 15
N1K1-J George x 2



Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 13
F4U-1 Corsair x 21
F6F-3 Hellcat x 39


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 9 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
J2M2 Jack: 4 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR September 30, 43
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Morning Air attack on Terapo , at 96,127

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 107 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 16
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 13
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 27


Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 10
F4U-1 Corsair x 22
F6F-3 Hellcat x 53

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 12 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Runway hits 2

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Reinforcements: As I mentioned the last time we played this turn, I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel for IJN pilots, so all of these new groups will have to be training units before anything else.

SS I-182 arrives at Kobe
SC CHa-67 arrives at Okayama
121 Ku T-1 arrives at Chiba
254 Ku S-1 arrives at Samah
263 Ku S-1 arrives at Genzan
265 Ku S-1 arrives at Kagoshima
321 Ku S-1 arrives at Chiba
381 Ku S-1 arrives at Kendari

Aircraft D4Y3 Judy advances R&D

Losses: None.

Ships Sunk: None.

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Rabaul is turning into a hive of activity with several fighter groups, 3 groups of Helens and one of Bettys ready for strikes. I've brought in Oscars for escort and more Tojos for defense and sweeps. The IJNAF is no longer the dominant airforce in the area.
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Status: offline 		Erik, me and Brad are using the latest beta patch and, i can tell you, we aren't experiencing anything "strange" with our raids.
Brad, for example, is bombing Wazrup (Burma) every day for weeks now. He's using 80 Blenheims and they do come (ALWAYS) in 2 big groups, one of 45 and the other one of 35 planes. And this happens EVERY SINGLE DAY. Same with my Chinese bombers...they, as always, arrive in one big group, followed up by a couple of smaller groups...but, as far as i can tell, it's always been like that.

I remember when i bombed Japan against Rader my B-29s suffered exactly in the same way, so i really don't see any big coordination change lately

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