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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/16/2013 7:38:47 PM   
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I was looking at the Randy Ki-102c as my main late war night fighter. I think I'm going to concentrate on a few night fighters to increase the amount I can bring to bear as I believe Jocke will use bombing at night exclusively to keep his losses down. It's too bad it arrives so late. I may try and accelerate it but I'm investing in a lot of two engine airframes it seems and it's going to be expensive in terms of HI.

Have a 1944 night fighter you are impressed with?

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/16/2013 8:46:17 PM   
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I think he's been using the J1N1-S?

As for the Icefish combat, I had one of those happen where one of my RO-class was forced to surface at Midway. It got away somehow "Contact lost with sub" and I was afraid it had sunk, but I didn't get the message...next turn, there it was - heavily damaged but still afloat. She must have managed to escape. Sad for you, but I'd bet the Icefish is going to be OK or at least has a shot at making port.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/16/2013 8:56:49 PM   
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I was looking at the Randy Ki-102c as my main late war night fighter. I think I'm going to concentrate on a few night fighters to increase the amount I can bring to bear as I believe Jocke will use bombing at night exclusively to keep his losses down. It's too bad it arrives so late. I may try and accelerate it but I'm investing in a lot of two engine airframes it seems and it's going to be expensive in terms of HI.

Have a 1944 night fighter you are impressed with?


So you have to think first of the IJN, as those night fighter groups arrive way earlier and you get more of them. The Irving without radar is pretty crap, but with radar in the J1N1-Sa version and it's not bad at all.

I've also made some of the A6M5d-S just because I have the engines in abundance and even though their durability is crap, numbers kill bombers. They also have a much higher speed than the Irving, decent guns and an infinitely better climb rate. Jocke has so far only bombed at 9k with the beasts at night, so I think soon he'll realize I'm onto him (by seeing that all of my NFs are set at 8-10k) and either go up or down.

For the IJAAF the Nick KAI looks as useless as the first Irving. Slow, no radar and uses an engine I don't make for anything else, the Ha-31.

The Dinah III KAI is quick and has decent guns, decent durability, but no radar. The Randy looks to be the best by a long shot, but it's way down the line. I have gotten the Sam already which comes around the same date, so you could push it quite far with some engine bonus and about 3 x 30 factories started right away. It uses the Ha-33, as do a lot of other important late war planes, and in my next game I would build bigger pools of that engine much earlier.

I'm about to start actively researching the Denko, the very late IJN night fighter, and it looks really good too, but it might only arrive in late 45. A bit past the sell-by date for the Japanese economy I fear.

So to sum up, I'd invest in the Irving early to move toward the Sa version with radar ASAP. I'd also much more heavily invest in the Randy 'c' and try to get it by late 44 or very early 45.

One more very important thing. Several recon units can convert to NF for the IJAAF. It's very easy to overlook. Make sure you know which do that and don't lose them or get them split all over the place and not able to recombine when you need it. I think that added another 30-40 NF to the picture.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/16/2013 8:59:12 PM   
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I think he's been using the J1N1-S?

As for the Icefish combat, I had one of those happen where one of my RO-class was forced to surface at Midway. It got away somehow "Contact lost with sub" and I was afraid it had sunk, but I didn't get the message...next turn, there it was - heavily damaged but still afloat. She must have managed to escape. Sad for you, but I'd bet the Icefish is going to be OK or at least has a shot at making port.


There's an ASW TF with three E steaming fast from Hainan and it'll catch anything leftover most likely if the air umbrella doesn't get to it first. i see it a lot where the surface elements will damage a sub to where it's limping a few hexes a day, and the air ASW knocks it out.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/16/2013 9:17:02 PM   
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Thanks for an in depth post Erik. I'm tweaking some R&D as I think I have a few airframes I'll simply wait to get upon historic arrival dates instead. That frees up 3-4 R&D factories for night fighter development. I may not be pushing Jocke hard offensively, but I sure hope to cause him fits in the air war.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/17/2013 3:44:25 AM   
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...A bit past the sell-by date for the Japanese economy I fear. ...







Way too funny!!!

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/17/2013 4:08:43 PM   
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I had some Denkos in Downfall. They were not stunningly effective except during the day against unescorted bombers.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/17/2013 4:33:09 PM   
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Thanks for an in depth post Erik. I'm tweaking some R&D as I think I have a few airframes I'll simply wait to get upon historic arrival dates instead. That frees up 3-4 R&D factories for night fighter development. I may not be pushing Jocke hard offensively, but I sure hope to cause him fits in the air war.


The most important plane arrivals (at the time they arrived) in game for me have been, in order of appearance. Those in red I would invest in more to get them sooner next time (if possible).

Airframe Arrivals

Ki-44 IIa (8/42)

A6M5 (12/42)

D4Y1 (12/42)

Ki-46 III (1/43)

Ki-43 IIb (3/43)

N1K1 (7/43)

P1Y1 (8/43)

Ki-44 IIc (9/43)

L2D2 (9/43)

Ki-84a (11/43)

J2M3 (12/43)

D4Y3 (12/43)

Ki-67-Ia (T) (7/44)

B7A2 (7/44)

Ki-43 IV (8/44)

J1N1-Sa (10/44)

A7M2 (11/44)

Ki-84r (11/44)

Future Arrivals

Ki-83 (1/45)

J7W1 (6/45)

Ki-102c (7/45)

Ki-74-I (8/45)

S1A1 (9/45)

Ki-94-II (10/45)

J8M1 (10/45)

Ki-201 (12/45)


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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/17/2013 4:34:54 PM   
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I had some Denkos in Downfall. They were not stunningly effective except during the day against unescorted bombers.


Did you have enough to mass them or was it just a trickle?

Any other night fighter info you've figured out from that game?

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/17/2013 8:41:53 PM   
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I had one Sentai with the Denko.

Neither of my opponents did a lot of night bombing, hence using night fighters in the day time.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/18/2013 4:07:42 AM   
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In an interesting combat the Icefish also tries for a convoy near Saigon and is forced to the surface where it guns down two small To'su PBs! They sink, contact is lost with the sub, and who knows if it's still going.
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One of my convoys had a nasty encounter with a Japanese sub that was forced to the surface a while back. And the sub lived. See http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3280415

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/18/2013 8:53:27 AM   
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In an interesting combat the Icefish also tries for a convoy near Saigon and is forced to the surface where it guns down two small To'su PBs! They sink, contact is lost with the sub, and who knows if it's still going.
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One of my convoys had a nasty encounter with a Japanese sub that was forced to the surface a while back. And the sub lived. See http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3280415



Yeah, I remember that one. Crazy.

But makes sense in my case, as those PBs are like fishing trawlers, inexperienced and fragile, and the sub has a fully trained and experienced military crew, so I like when the game models that stuff well.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/18/2013 11:32:20 AM   
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20 - 21 December 1944
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SUBS: The Spikefish hits TK Nitiei Maru loaded with oil, but the ship miraculously survives and makes it to Cam Rahn bay with only 48 floatation damage. After a day or two to clear the subs I'll try a coastal routing to Haiphong, then to Hong Kong. Our other tankers speed on, perhaps the final oil delivery of the game to the HI. At least the last I'm confident will make it through.

The Chub sinks an E near Chichi-Jima.

THAILAND: The Allies move units back into the area with my trapped troops and the bombardment is stronger. Not sure yet if here will stay or if they are just passing through. The Allies take back Ayuthia.

DEI: The Allies take Maccassar. I'll keep moving stuff back and see what happens around here.

STRAT BOMBING: The Allies hit Takao again, only a few days after the first trip here, and again start big fires. Again, not much damage accumulates to the LI. Strange. But I'll take it. I can't really afford NF here, so I'll have to keep taking the hits.

CHINA/INDOCHINA: Many units are now moving back by rail to China and overland to other destinations.

CENTRAL PACFIC: The Filipinos are having some real trouble taking Satawal from our naval guard there. They've been installed on the island for maybe 4-5 months and are still going. They got the forts lowered but lost a lot of troops disabled during these attacks. It highlights how hard it is to take fortified bases without the 4E ground pounding.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR December 20, 44
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Night Air attack on Takao , at 84,65

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6

No Allied losses

Manpower hits 20
Fires 8585

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Takao , at 84,65

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged

Manpower hits 12
Fires 130178 Again massive fires here but not as much damage to the LI. Interesting.

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Sub attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 66,72

Japanese Ships
TK Nitiei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SC Ch 53
AV Sagara Maru
TK Asashio Maru
TK Hidaka Maru
TK San Ramon Maru
E Hatsutaka
E Niizaki

Allied Ships
SS Spikefish

SS Spikefish launches 2 torpedoes at TK Nitiei Maru
E Hatsutaka fails to find sub and abandons search
E Niizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Niizaki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Chichi-jima at 111,71

Japanese Ships
E No.29, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
E No.23
E No.31

Allied Ships
SS Chub

SS Chub launches 2 torpedoes at E No.29
Chub diving deep ....
E No.31 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Ground combat at Satawal (105,105)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3162 troops, 42 guns, 46 vehicles, Assault Value = 153

Defending force 1861 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 49

Allied adjusted assault: 39

Japanese adjusted defense: 31

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
200 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
726 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 112 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 29 (2 destroyed, 27 disabled)


Assaulting units:
1st Filipino Inf Regiment

Defending units:
91st Naval Guard Unit
53rd Construction Battalion
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Ground combat at Akutan Island (171,49)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1242 troops, 13 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 77

Defending force 673 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 20

Allied adjusted assault: 8

Japanese adjusted defense: 28

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-)
Attacker: leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Rocky Mountain Rger Battalion

Defending units:
53rd Nav Gd /2

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Ground combat at Makassar (65,106)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8253 troops, 143 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 326

Defending force 75 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 283

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 283 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Makassar !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Units destroyed 1 (Flown out, so not really)

Assaulting units:
82nd (West African) Division

Defending units:
1st JNAF Coy

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR December 21, 44
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Ground combat at Satawal (105,105)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2567 troops, 41 guns, 46 vehicles, Assault Value = 58

Defending force 1675 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Allied adjusted assault: 12

Japanese adjusted defense: 55

Allied assault odds: 1 to 4 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
144 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
137 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 31 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st Filipino Inf Regiment

Defending units:
91st Naval Guard Unit
53rd Construction Battalion

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Ground combat at 55,59 (near Tavoy)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5547 troops, 348 guns, 384 vehicles, Assault Value = 3927

Defending force 165074 troops, 1952 guns, 2846 vehicles, Assault Value = 3526

Japanese ground losses:
411 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)


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Reinforcements:

62nd Air Flotilla arrives at Tokyo
57th Infantry Regiment arrives at Tokyo
LST T-158 arrives at Maizuru
S-812 Hikotai arrives at Tsu
E No.40 arrives at Tokyo
ML G-435 arrives at Yokohama/Yokosuka
Ashigara-2 arrives at Haiphong


Losses:

Loss of E No.29 on Dec 20, 1944 is admitted
Loss of E Sagi on Sep 17, 1944 is admitted


Ships Sunk:

Previous report of sinking of SS KXV incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
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Looking for pictures of the Nitiei Maru I found a great site showing plans of a bunch of Japanese Merchants. A full rendition of the 'Japanese Ship Recognition Manual.'

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/id/oni208j-japan-merchant-ships/index.htm

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/18/2013 3:04:14 PM   
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STRATEGIC CONCERNS
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The current goals are to really make the inner defenses tough and nasty while getting most units back from the outer perimeter of the Empire, as well as getting as much oil/fuel and resources to the Home Islands as possible. The HI pool goals of 3 million in the bank were reached in late November, so everything else now is icing. Supply everywhere is a concern. More on that later.

THE EMPIRE:

Currently there are only a few far flung major infantry and logistical concentrations.

BANGKOK: This base is still a fortified post with 550+ fighters and 1850 AV behind 6 forts. Three good divisions are here. It will not be taken easily. I wonder still if I should allow these units to simply sit here until liquidated or move out soon. I can lift by sea but it'll be tricky. So far I've taken out two wrecked brigades to recover elsewhere, many construction and base force units and two HQs including the Southern HQ command. The Southern is still in range though. I'm sending in more supply from Palembang and Medan, and I hope to keep it going for another few weeks before final decisions are made.

SINGAPORE: There are few combat troops here, but there are a lot of base forces from around Malaya that have all moved back and are being shipped to Saigon to rail back. The Air Flotilla will also move back and all other HQ units will be sent as well. The only purpose of the base now is the distribution of oil/fuel out so the Southern Fleet HQ will stay put. Fleet HQs are not as critical these days, and a few might be sacrificed down here, left in place to speed loading.

SOERABAJA: A few troops are left here, including a lot of bases forces and a few HQ. Most of these will move to Batavia for shipping out and there will be a shell of defense, enough to battle a bit in the air, but not much on the ground.

ROTA: This base has not been invested by the Allies, but it is surrounded. I may try for some troops here, as there are a few good brigades I could pull, but it's a long flight and that will have to wait until Pagan and other more Northern Marianas bases are cleared out. Still, I hate to see 1000AV go to waste, so there will be a moment where I make an effort if the planes are able and there is still a base in range to pull.

MANILA/LUZON: This base is massively defended, and has now been invested by some 25+ Allied units. I don't know yet their composition, but I'm sure it's the works. I've decided to send some of the arty units I have defending at Lingayen over here, but to keep a division there in reserve and send it over only if the attacks begin to bring defenses to the brink. Maybe I should bring it earlier? I just also want to protect the back-door. There are another 1500AV in Southern Luzon and about 800AV at Aparri.

Manila is still receiving troops from Babeldaop on flying boats. Most of these are AA, engineer units and other support troops that will be moved back to other bases for rebuilding. I also successfully pulled two big brigades out of Ternate and Peleliu. A huge shipment of supply just arrived so this area should be topped up for the next few weeks at least. Another division is in Aparri and that will remain there to ensure that area has some lasting power if invaded as well. With 3200 AV, five divisions and several tank divisions, a bunch of support and level 7 forts, Manila should be hard to crack even with late war Allied troops. If the first DA can get a good result for the defenders I think we will hold for a good while, or at least force another route to develop, landing on the back side maybe which should provide more opportunities to hit troopships.

SAIGON/INDOCHINA: Saigon is lightly defended most of the time, but this is the rail yard sending on thousands of troops coming from all over the DEI continually. Another 9k troops just arrived and are going into strat mode. Most will walk into China, some will go to Haiphong and be picked up to move on. There is 750 AV including a good division at Cam Rahn Bay, and a few brigades down the coast. A small blockade of about 450-500AV is sitting on the big road river crossing from the Thai plains near Vihn. The Allies look to be moving down from the Bangkok area and aiming for Saigon. Half of the troops here are now moving into strat mode. The rest will do so at the last moment. Depending on the Bangkok situation I may leave some to fight in the good terrain here, but its easy to bypass as well, so that might not happen.

ECONOMY:


A further concern is continued viability of the economy and production. Supply is a major factor both for use in the field and for getting repairs done to factories at home. The destruction of HI/LI centers in Tokyo recently highlighted how difficult it will be to plan for the future, so all supply shipments will be curtailed to the most necessary to keep critical areas in good shape. Most supply that leaves the HI now will go to Luzon, Formosa, the Bonins and Okinawa. China seems to still be getting sufficient supply from local centers and from Manchurian surplus. I will occasionally need to top this up though as the Allies begin to push into this area. I've been able to keep the DEI and Thailand functionally supplied from the DEI but this will end soon and the entire DEI will be evacuated.

As stated above I'm not concerned with HI levels. It's still on the rise and will be for a short period longer at least.

Airframe and engine factories are a concern. I will not be able to make all that I want to make. I just discovered that three FB groups can upgrade to the Nick Id NF version, which if filled out would be another 100+ NF. I'm now kicking myself for not having any pool of Ha-31 engines left, but I'm trying to make obsolete all planes using this engine and letting their engines go back into the pools. If this happens as I expect I could have enough to make 40-50 planes to begin during the next few months, so I've changed over a small factory and built it to size 15. These groups can also use the Randy Ic when it arrives, so it would be good to get them going, then transition when that plane is available. This would allow me to have a level of cover for some important bases I can't now protect at all.

Right now engines are covering needs but I simply can't add more, so as factories are burned up there will be a shortage. The pool for Ha-45 is really small at about 70, and the Ha-33 is only around 250 as well. Fun times!
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RED: Current lines of the Empire.
WHITE: Future defensive line.
YELLOW: Retreat paths and evacuation routes.
ORANGE: Reinforcements by land, sea and air.

Notice that Luzon is not included in the white area. This will be defended vigorously, and once defeated I'll try to pull what I can, but this operation is mostly a stalling attempt and doesn't really constitute a strategic area of defense necessarily. Keeping the Allies away from fighter sweep range and normal 4E bombing range of the HI is the highest level of concern and is the reason for the white mark being where it is. He could use bases here for B-29s, but it wouldn't change much from what is possible now from lower Luzon bases and from the Marianas.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/18/2013 6:38:01 PM   
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It's quite exciting to see the rush of movement as you prepare for your final defense. By no means does this war look over yet.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/18/2013 8:52:47 PM   
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I think it is important to stall on Luzon to enable your yellow-line retreats.

I would be concerned about the clear hexes in southern China, and defending there. If he isn't threatening you by land in these places, such as through Indochina, then make sure you mine them... If he has run through Indochina to get there, wouldn't it be smarter to defend in the rougher terrain?

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/19/2013 8:11:26 AM   
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It's quite exciting to see the rush of movement as you prepare for your final defense. By no means does this war look over yet.

Darken the sky with Kamikazes, and fight under the shade!


That's the plan!

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/19/2013 8:21:43 AM   
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I think it is important to stall on Luzon to enable your yellow-line retreats.

I would be concerned about the clear hexes in southern China, and defending there. If he isn't threatening you by land in these places, such as through Indochina, then make sure you mine them... If he has run through Indochina to get there, wouldn't it be smarter to defend in the rougher terrain?


This is also the plan. Luzon is meant to hold for a good while. Whether it does depends on how much the Allies have decided to allocate here and how they go for it.

About the Chinese coast, it's pretty worrisome. The Allies though can take mostly what they want at any given point right now, so I can only slow things down. There are cities with garrisons there but the main defenses are in the major bases of Hong Kong and Canton. There will be some roadblock in gun its in the forests of SE China within the next week just on the edge of the Chinese border. I've got about 4-5 divisions heading that way already.

Mines are mostly useless. A sub has been in the Bataaan hex the past four turns and hasn't hit any of the 140 mines there! Silly. They've hardly made an impact for either side during the war, but I still use them I just pick my spots. The spots now will be Luzon and Formosa.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/19/2013 8:53:56 AM   
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Do not underestimate mines.

Their effectiveness depends a lot on the type of TF, the ammount of ships within the TF, the size of ships, and what it is doing exactly. Also 140 is not so many, for an effective defense I would double that number. Mines can be swept easily when the minefield is known - for example when doing amphib ops - but minesweeping TFs assigned to that job will suffer in the face of coastal defenses.

Concentrated in an area where you expect naval bombardement runs can keep the opponent on his toes. You got em, what do you lose by using them even if you do not expect much of an impact? A minefield is something that has to be dealt with if the hex is important, so it binds ressources.

A way to force an opponent into mistakes is to increase the number of problems he has to deal with to reach his goals. Mines add to the complexity of a situation. IMHO this is enough to justify their use.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/19/2013 3:14:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LoBaron

Do not underestimate mines.

Their effectiveness depends a lot on the type of TF, the ammount of ships within the TF, the size of ships, and what it is doing exactly. Also 140 is not so many, for an effective defense I would double that number. Mines can be swept easily when the minefield is known - for example when doing amphib ops - but minesweeping TFs assigned to that job will suffer in the face of coastal defenses.

Concentrated in an area where you expect naval bombardement runs can keep the opponent on his toes. You got em, what do you lose by using them even if you do not expect much of an impact? A minefield is something that has to be dealt with if the hex is important, so it binds ressources.

A way to force an opponent into mistakes is to increase the number of problems he has to deal with to reach his goals. Mines add to the complexity of a situation. IMHO this is enough to justify their use.


Great points and I agree completely. These are the exact reasons I'm going to limit the locations to those with the potential for multiple threats; surface ships, , MTBS, subs, CD guns, mines and air strikes. That would be Luzon, Formosa, Okinawa and certain locations on the Chinese coast. I can't spread too thin or I get just what you're pointing out; not enough to make a difference.

I have about 180 at Manila, 140 at Bataan (that took out some destroyers recently, so I'm topping them up slowly to make sure it's a 'new' field and the DL is not high. I think this is why he's leaving the sub there though, to see if the mines are 'known.')

I have several of the CM turned E at Manila and I'll keep adding. These are mainly to prevent bombardments coming through to Manila.

I'll have a good number at Takao, Hong Kong, Canton and Taihoku. Then I'll see which other bases I can get to. There will be CD guns at all of the big Chinese bases, Okinawa bases and Formosa bases as so many of the big base forces have them now in the upgraded TOE, so nothing will be a gimme.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/19/2013 3:59:04 PM   
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22 - 23 December 1944
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SUBS: Mingo continues to sit in Bataan. I'll keep adding mines occasionally to see if we can get it.

DEI: The beasts hit Singers port again. This time a TK convoy had disbanded, apparently a few turns previous, and I simply didn't notice as another was loading. I have not been disbanding anything here, so it sucks that AI choice had to happen just now. Oh, well. No great loss at this point, as those TK would eventually be sunk in port anyway. I will miss the fuel I could have siphoned out of their tanks the most.

The positive part of this turn is that the 16 strong Tony Id Datai here did yeoman's work and looks to have downed ~ 15 B-29s in A to A and ops!
They are decent against bombers, as predicted. Good to have some proof. Looking forward to the Ki-100 results now, as it's even just slightly better.

The last scheduled fuel convoy mission left Singers and is now near Cam Ran Bay, likely making it to Nagasaki just at the turn of the year as planned. Now anything else I get out and back is seriously a massive bonus. Another TK convoy is heading back down and will attempt to get more out in about 4-5 days if all goes well. The base has 35k fuel and 15k oil now so it'll just be ready to fill up when these ships arrive. I'll tightly orchestrate any more convoys to conserve remaining fuel, but I'll keep running the CS ships from Palembang in the hope of opportunities.

Some small coastal TK running CS convoys to between Medan and Singers were crushed by RN DDs. No big loss here. The fuel at that base is still pumping out but there is only about 2k there now. Been keeping them all as low as possible. Just got all extra supplies out too, so that was good timing. DDs also take out some MTBs at Ambon.

CHINA/INDOCHINA: Interestingly I had been reconning the troops moving up from Lashio and toward Paoshan, and I noticed Lashio seemed to be empty. I left the recon to get to 9/10 and it still showed no occupation of the base. I thought this could be a great opportunity to cut the supply line for a few days for these troops moving up. Alas, when my paras dropped there turned out to be 150AV there and six units! Holy blind recon pilots!

No great loss, but I just don't know what to believe anymore. Now I really am looking forward to the Ki-95 as it has a camera built in.

I have two divisions and an HQ setting up at the river crossing North of Paoshan. The brigade in situ there will be left to take whatever hit comes over the lower river crossing into Paoshan and it's level 6 forts. Although I'm sure it'll be severely outnumbered, this is +3 territory and there are 6 forts. It'll be interesting to see if this comes to pass.

LUZON: More units move into the Manila hex. There are 48 there now. Here we go!

THAILAND: Several AA units have disappeared from the big stack recently due to the continued Allied bombardments and aristrikes on this force. All five are bought out for 6 PP total and will move to bases such as Maebashi, Tsu and Hamamatsu with important industry but not enough tubes.

CENTRAL PACFIC: Lots of stuff moving across. No hope to hit any of it, and there are CV/CVE moving with it this time. One group of Jakes from Marcus flies anyway, undaunted, and 3 planes attack an AK. No hits.

RECON: I've been trying to meticulously keep up on the recon lately as especially in the Home Islands it could indicate strat bombing targets. Other interesting things are being seen too though. Some recon flew over Iba on Luzon. Why? Looking to land on the back side? Kiunghsan and Samah were targets. I have next to nothing on Hainan, and it's the last in line for any defenses as it's yet another island where I would stand a good chance to lose it all. Kiungshan is clear as well, and therefore indefensible. A lot of attention is also being paid to Indochina, the mountains of Southern China, and other bases on the Chinese coast, Luzon and Formosa.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR December 22, 44
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Sub attack near Bataan at 78,77

Japanese Ships
MGB G-889

Allied Ships
SS Mingo, hits 1

SS Mingo cannot acquire firing solution on enemy MGB
MGB G-889 fails to find sub, continues to search...
MGB G-889 attacking submerged sub ....
MGB G-889 is out of ASW ammo
MGB G-889 fails to find sub, continues to search...

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Ground combat at 55,59 (near Tavoy)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5552 troops, 348 guns, 384 vehicles, Assault Value = 3151

Defending force 164920 troops, 1920 guns, 2832 vehicles, Assault Value = 3552

Japanese ground losses:
427 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR December 23, 44
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Medan at 46,76, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E W-33, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
PB Heiei Maru #7, Shell hits 7, on fire
TK Ryusho Maru, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk


Allied Ships
DD Pathfinder
DD Penn, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
DD Grenville
DD Ulster
DD Ulysses
DD Undaunted
DD Undine
DD Urania
DD Urchin
DD Ursa

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 64% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
DD Ursa engages TK Ryusho Maru at 11,000 yards
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

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ASW attack near Bataan at 78,77

Allied Ships
SS Mingo

SS Mingo is sighted by escort
Sub escapes detection

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Medan at 46,76, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
TK Azuma Maru #2, Shell hits 16, and is sunk
PB Mikage Maru, Shell hits 42, and is sunk


Allied Ships
DD Pathfinder
DD Penn, on fire
DD Grenville
DD Ulster
DD Ulysses
DD Undaunted
DD Undine
DD Urania
DD Urchin
DD Ursa

Improved night sighting under 71% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 71% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
DD Undaunted engages TK Azuma Maru #2 at 11,000 yards
Combat ends with last Japanese ship sunk...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ambon at 76,109, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
MTB G-349, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB G-351, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
MTB G-352, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MTB G-353, Shell hits 1, and is sunk


Allied Ships
DD Charles Ausburne
DD Callaghan
DD Erben
DD Hopewell

Improved night sighting under 71% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 71% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
MTB G-353 sunk by DD Hopewell at 8,000 yards
Combat ends with last Japanese ship sunk...

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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 55,59 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 37
Liberator GR.VI x 13
B-24J Liberator x 14
B-17E Fortress x 3
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 3
B-24D1 Liberator x 12
B-24J Liberator x 103
B-25D1 Mitchell x 15
B-25G Mitchell x 9
B-25H Mitchell x 12
B-25J11 Mitchell x 3
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 11

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
263 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 70 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled


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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61-Id Tony x 16

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 58

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-61-Id Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 3 destroyed, 14 damaged

Japanese Ships
TK Bokuei Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AV Kinugasa Maru, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Hioki Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
E Hoko, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Teiyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
E Shirataka, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Kyokuyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
TK Ichiyo Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire
E Ukishima, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Omurosan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
ACM Kaisho Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
E Saga, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SC Ch 9, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
TK San Clemente Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires


Japanese ground losses:
3 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Port hits 12
Port fuel hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet *
Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 55,59 (near Tavoy)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5560 troops, 348 guns, 384 vehicles, Assault Value = 3166

Defending force 163740 troops, 1891 guns, 2830 vehicles, Assault Value = 3507

Japanese ground losses:
191 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


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Ground combat at Lashio (62,46)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 154 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Defending force 4802 troops, 65 guns, 22 vehicles, Assault Value = 149

Japanese adjusted assault: 1

Allied adjusted defense: 202

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 202 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), op mode(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st Raiding Rgt /1

Defending units:
5th Burma Battalion
Mandalay BMP Battalion
4th Burma Battalion
1st Assam Rifles Battalion
101st RAF Base Force
103rd RAF Base Force

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Reinforcements:

E No.45 arrives at Tokyo
E No.76 arrives at Tokyo
9th Sentai arrives at Haiphong
41st Guard Battalion arrives at Tokyo
E No.150 arrives at Tokyo


Losses:

Loss of E W-33 on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
Loss of PB Heiei Maru #7 on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
Loss of E Shirataka on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
Loss of E Ukishima on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
Loss of E Hoko on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
Loss of TK Azuma Maru #2 on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
Loss of PB Mikage Maru on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
Loss of ACM Kaisho Maru on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
Loss of TK Ryusho Maru on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
MGB G-1018 arrives at Nagoya
TK Teiyo Maru
TK Omurosan Maru
TK Kyokuyo Maru
TK Ichiyo Maru


Ships Sunk:

Previous report of sinking of SS Drum incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of SS Segundo incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of CVE Kalinin Bay incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of CL Leander incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of SS S-39 incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/19/2013 7:14:18 PM   
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Start using those 20 subs you have sitting in port to drop minefields so you don't lose them to a port strike next time!

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/19/2013 10:54:04 PM   
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quote:

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Start using those 20 subs you have sitting in port to drop minefields so you don't lose them to a port strike next time!


That would be 12 subs.

Actually I think a few new ones just came through. One of the issues is having fuel for the ACM tenders, which can use a surprising amount. I'l try to get a nice pool and throw them in once it looks like things are heating up. Otherwise it's a bit of a waste.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 10/20/2013 2:25:52 AM   
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SUBS: Lost an xAKL near Iwo Jima.

DEI: The Alies move forward and invest Kudat where I have a brigade. The CVs come out into the South China Sea where my TFs are forced to scatter, back track and unload vital units. I'll have to wait and see if anything can be moved out through here still. It looks like he's brought around 400AV to take Kudat, but it might be tough in this territory with only that much.

STRAT BOMBING: Another strike on Tokyo. This one gets fires going, but pays a stiffer price with around 20 B-29s downed by NFs and flak. The flak worked! In the report 5 are listed lost to the guns, and that is with the raid coming in at 20k!!

So he did change altitude, and even though all of our fighters didn't get up to engage, some of the times to target got shorter with subsequent attacks, and many also were around throughout more of the smaller packets of later arrivals. It was good to put the A6M NF up higher at 15k as they definitely are the faster climbers and got a time to intercept within the limit of the strike's time to target of 25 minutes. Looks like the many radars here helped out too getting the early detection.

Not sure what the damage will be yet, but some HI is destroyed for sure, about 100 more points so far. If we can keep taking this kind of a toll, though, he can't run more than 3-4 strikes a month with only 40 replacements/month.

CHINA/INDOCHINA: Tanks and a few big divisions take Battambang and will likely push on to Saigon. There is now a time limit for getting troops out of Bangkok.

LUZON: Thinking I need to know what is in Manila, so I'll bombard with some arty there and have a look.

THAILAND: Jumped a strike over the troops with a big LR CAP, but the sweeps came first today. All P-38, and they didn't do badly. In the end it looks like about 33 P-38 downed for about 41 of ours.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR December 24, 44
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 3
J1N1-S Irving x 27
J1N1-Sa Irving x 5
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 21

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 2 destroyed
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Yokosuka Ku S-3 with A6M5d-S Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
210 Ku S-3 with J1N1-Sa Irving (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 14000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
352 Ku S-3 with J1N1-S Irving (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 4 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
16th I.F.Chutai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes
16th I.F.Chutai Det with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
81st I.F.Chutai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 58 minutes

Some CAP have air radar
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Manpower hits 1
Fires 4455

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 20000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Pre-Invasion action off Kudat (69,86)

49 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CL Nashville
CL St. Louis
DD Voyager
DD Hull
DD Nicholson
LCI(G)-397
LCI(G)-396
LCI(G)-373
LCI(G)-372
LCI(G)-366
LCI(G)-365
LCI-65
LCI-64
LCI-61
APA La Salle

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at Kudat (69,86)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4376 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 175

Defending force 9481 troops, 161 guns, 169 vehicles, Assault Value = 389

Assaulting units:
63rd Infantry Brigade
172nd JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
3rd Motor Brigade
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
22nd Australian Brigade

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Ground combat at Battambang (58,65)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 36317 troops, 693 guns, 947 vehicles, Assault Value = 1376

Defending force 2184 troops, 22 guns, 133 vehicles, Assault Value = 80

Allied adjusted assault: 958

Japanese adjusted defense: 35

Allied assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Battambang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
322 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 76 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 34 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 124 (115 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
212 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
268th Motorised Brigade
43rd Infantry Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
Guides Cavalry Regiment
27th Infantry Division
7th Infantry Division
India Command
16th Indian Heavy AA Regiment

Defending units:
8th Tank Regiment
53rd Const Co
93rd JAAF AF Bn

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR December 25, 44
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Sub attack near Iwo-jima at 105,75

Japanese Ships
xAKL Ryuun Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
PB Wa 2

Allied Ships
SS Charr

SS Charr launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Ryuun Maru
Charr diving deep ....
PB Wa 2 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Wa 2 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Bataan at 78,77

Japanese Ships
MGB G-889

Allied Ships
SS Mingo

SS Mingo cannot acquire firing solution on enemy MGB
Mingo bottoming out ....
Sub escapes detection

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Morning Air attack on 75th Infantry Brigade, at 55,59 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 13
J2M5 Jack x 18
N1K1-J George x 10
Ki-84a Frank x 51
Ki-84r Frank x 33
Ki-100-I Tony x 27

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Burma Area Army, at 55,59 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 13
J2M5 Jack x 16
N1K1-J George x 5
Ki-84a Frank x 46
Ki-84r Frank x 29
Ki-100-I Tony x 27

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Burma Area Army, at 55,59 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 9
J2M5 Jack x 12
N1K1-J George x 5
Ki-84a Frank x 38
Ki-84r Frank x 20
Ki-100-I Tony x 27

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Burma Area Army, at 55,59 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 7
J2M5 Jack x 11
N1K1-J George x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 30
Ki-84r Frank x 13
Ki-100-I Tony x 24

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kudat at 69,86

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 6 destroyed
Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 1 destroyed by flak


Allied Ships
CL St. Louis
APA Henry T. Allen

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-67-Ib Peggy flying as kamikaze *
Kamikaze: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 2nd Guards Division, at 55,59 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 1
J2M5 Jack x 1
Ki-84a Frank x 8
Ki-84r Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 15
B-25G Mitchell x 3
B-25H Mitchell x 24
B-25J11 Mitchell x 15
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25H Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

PBJ-1D Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 63rd Infantry Brigade, at 69,86 (Kudat)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12
B-25G Mitchell x 15
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Paoshan , at 65,45

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 73
Liberator GR.VI x 14
B-24J Liberator x 15
B-17E Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 8
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 99
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 39

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 88
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 81

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 55,59 (near Tavoy)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5544 troops, 348 guns, 384 vehicles, Assault Value = 2680

Defending force 163236 troops, 1822 guns, 2811 vehicles, Assault Value = 3517

Japanese ground losses:
572 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 13 (3 destroyed, 10 disabled)



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Reinforcements:

6th Air Army arrives at Tokyo
DD Yoizuki arrives at Yokohama/Yokosuka
9th Sentai arrives at Tourane

Aircraft Toka advances R&D (8/45)


Losses:

Loss of E Saga on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
Loss of SC Ch 2 on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
Loss of SC Ch 9 on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
Loss of AV Kinugasa Maru on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
Loss of xAKL Ryuun Maru on Dec 25, 1944 is admitted


Ships Sunk:

DD The Sullivans is reported to have been sunk near Umnak Island on Oct 23, 1944
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With this on the prowl, transports scatter under air cover at Saigon and Singers.
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SUBS: Mingo still at large roaming between mines at Bataan.

DEI: Waingapoe is invaded and falls. Kudat is bombed, but very little damage accumulates as forts and terrain protect Japanese troops. The Allied fleets hang out for a few days, then move back. Interesting. Some tentative movements of convoys begin again.

STRAT BOMBING: Well, the B-29 pools might be getting thinner now. Another strike goes in for Manila, and the flak there does a fantastic job. The last time he came I hadn't undated the TOE on several big base forces. now they have 12.7cm DP, 12cm DP and 8cm DP guns in addition to the other AA. Not so easy to come in at 6k now. Looks like another ~12 B-29s lost on the day, and although the fires are huge, they don't seem to have the devastating affect they have had in Tokyo. Still about half of the LI is fine.

CHINA/INDOCHINA: Bombing commences at Paoshan. Very little impact on the brigade there, which is a good sign. Very interested in what will happen here.

LUZON: A bombardment shows the Allies are either not completely here or something else is about to happen. He's brought a ton of tanks and artillery but only about 3725AV. Against what we have there that doesn't look to be enough to make it quick, at least. My suspicion is that there is more to come, but I wonder where it will go. Maybe here, but maybe to another base behind on the West or South. I bet Jocke is still thinking of his invasion of Cotabato, and that was a clear hex. So Lingayen and Aparri could be targets, I'll keep building there, and keep the units in good supply, plus have other forces in range to reinforce should an invasion move in. Tense times.

I've made some changes to air defense in the area. There are few areas now to sweep outside of main base concentrations so I feel I can keep fighters on 2 hex range to help CAP mutually support from Manila/Clark Lingayen. We'll see how this works.

THAILAND: Big build-up of troops at Udon and Udon Thani are beginning to move in the Thai plains. They are avoiding a shock river crossing though which will mean it'll take more time to get to the coast. That's good.

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Night Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 22

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 8 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 2 destroyed by flak

Manpower hits 46
Fires 24795

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 5 damaged

Manpower hits 41
Fires 124020

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 6000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Kudat (69,86)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4297 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 168

Defending force 9623 troops, 162 guns, 168 vehicles, Assault Value = 403

Assaulting units:
63rd Infantry Brigade
172nd JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
3rd Motor Brigade
22nd Australian Brigade

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Ground combat at Siem Reap (59,65)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 600 troops, 0 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 55

Defending force 1069 troops, 21 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Allied adjusted assault: 27

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
Guides Cavalry Regiment

Defending units:
52nd Road Const Co
93rd JAAF AF Bn

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Morning Air attack on 19th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 65,45 (Paoshan)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 24
Liberator GR.VI x 6
B-17E Fortress x 10
B-24D Liberator x 3
B-24D1 Liberator x 13
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 25

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 55,59 , near Tavoy

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 125

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
324 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 62 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 29 (1 destroyed, 28 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Manila (79,77)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1935 troops, 144 guns, 137 vehicles, Assault Value = 3376

Defending force 106700 troops, 2001 guns, 4569 vehicles, Assault Value = 3725

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 10 (3 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (2 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
102nd Division
58th Infantry Brigade
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment
105th Division
43rd Recon Regiment
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
6th Division
4th Tank Division

64th Ind.Mixed Brigade
56th Division
61st Ind.Mixed Brigade
59th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Tank Division
53rd Infantry Brigade
56th Ind.Mixed Brigade
57th Fld AA Bn /1
216th Naval Construction Battalion
157th JAAF AF Bn
217th Naval Const Bn /1
12th JNAF AF Unit
7th Air Division
20th RF Gun Battalion
3rd Rocket Gun Battalion
20th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Air Division
21st Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
28th JNAF AF Unit
33rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
27th Fld AA Machinecannon Company
13th Air Fleet
85th Field AA Battalion
58th JNAF AF Unit /2
14th Area Army
51st Air Flotilla
56th JNAF AF Unit
33rd Special Base Force
60th JNAF AF Unit
30th Special Base Force
26th Fld AA Machinecannon Company
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
78th Field AA Battalion
52nd Const Bn /1
16th Army
88th Field AA Battalion
16th Field AA Machinecannon Company
64th Field AA Battalion
2nd Base Force
77th Field AA Battalion
91st JAAF AF Bn
104th AA Regiment
2nd Air Fleet
1st Base Force
102nd AA Regiment
24th Fld AA Machinecannon Company
20th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
60th Field AA Battalion
21st JAAF Base Force /2

Defending units:
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
CenPac Amphib Tank Brigade
1st Marine Division
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
754th Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
4th USMC Tank Battalion
37th Infantry Division
25th Infantry Division

2nd USMC Tank Battalion
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
775th Tank Battalion
710th Tank Battalion
763rd Tank Battalion
44th Tank Battalion
6th Infantry Division
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
716th Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
24th Infantry Division
766th Tank Battalion
192nd Tank Battalion
5th USMC Tank Battalion
III US Amphib Corps
XXIV US Corps
147th Field Artillery Regiment
XI US Corps
1st Medium Regiment
Tenth US Army
XI Corps Artillery
694th Field Artillery Battalion
16th NZ AA Bde
15th NZ AA Bde
XIV Corps Artillery
X US Corps
251st Field Artillery Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
I Corps Artillery
South Pacific
225th Field Artillery Battalion
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
9th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
I US Corps
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
X Corps Artillery
33rd Medium Regiment


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Reinforcements:

E No.118 arrives at Tokyo
LST T-159 arrives at Niigata
MTB G-1019 arrives at Osaka/Kyoto


Losses: none.

Ships Sunk:

AK Amador is reported to have been sunk near Milne Bay on Oct 03, 1944
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The US CVs pull back. Nothing of great value will move yet. I want to see if this is a trap and he'll come shooting back across.
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SUBS: Mingo stays at large and in spite of anASW TF sitting overhead, a minefield all around it and air patrols night and day, nothing touches the sub.

DEI: Troops at Kudat resist even low Allied air strikes. This will be interesting. he should have just taken jesselton, with only a battalion in residence, but I know how recon can deceive.

STRAT BOMBING: Some interesting recon today.

Allied Fighter sighted over Hachinohe

CHINA/INDOCHINA: I've begun to pull pieces of the units in Bangkok by air as well as by sea. It appears that much of the Allied force has left the base and is now sitting in Ayuthia? Not sure what is going on there, but it makes my job a lot easier. Unless of course he's luring me into the oceans where he'll pounce.

I have a bunch of TFs lined up and they will travel down across the Saigon area protected (hopefully) by 400+ fighters there and another 150+ in Cam Ran Bay. The Allied CVs have again moved in to the Northern Borneo area, and look to be making another dash out of hiding. I only see one TF now, but maybe there are more? All TFs are moving to cover as if this is the real thing. The KB is staying put for now but will move down should the Allies lose significant planes going for transports. I'ts about two days away, all updated with Sams and Graces.

LUZON: The Allies return the favor with a full bombardment. It doesn't go their way in spite of a numbers advantage in guns. I think this means the forts and terrain will give us a strong defense here. There are a good amount of tanks in the hex, but quite a few anti-tank weapons as well, so it's going to be interesting. I can't really predict late war ground battles right now. On the 29th, surprisingly, the Allies tried again, and this time oct 29 guns and 12 vehicles destroyed and disabled. This also showed that they're still moving stuff in though, with AV up to 3933.

I will reinforce the rear bases now with more brigades and possibly some more arty. It looks good for holding this amount of Allied troops at Manila, and because there are not more now I'm wondering if this is just a side show and more will arrive in the rear soon. I need 300-400 AV in every base which can shift over to others once invasions begin. Most of the islands and Formosa now have troops dedicated or intended for them so I can begin to shore up other areas like these.

THAILAND: In roughly 3-5 days I'll start pulling divisions if all else remains the same. I should by then have the carrying ability for three divisions plus, and some smaller xAKL TFs for the base forces and engineer units. I'm sure things will not stay the same, but the Allied troops (apparently) moving out of the hex is odd. The rollover shows about 68k troops now with 45 units in Ayuthia.

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Sub attack near Bataan at 78,77

Japanese Ships
E Wakataka

Allied Ships
SS Mingo

SS Mingo launches 2 torpedoes at E Wakataka
E Wakataka fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on 63rd Infantry Brigade, at 69,86 (Kudat)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 12
B-25D1 Mitchell x 13
B-25G Mitchell x 15
B-25H Mitchell x 31
B-25J11 Mitchell x 16
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Manila (79,77)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 70553 troops, 1632 guns, 2918 vehicles, Assault Value = 3803

Defending force 119190 troops, 1339 guns, 1621 vehicles, Assault Value = 3376

Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (4 destroyed, 10 disabled)


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Ground combat at Kudat (69,86)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4292 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 169

Defending force 9652 troops, 162 guns, 168 vehicles, Assault Value = 404

Assaulting units:
63rd Infantry Brigade
172nd JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
3rd Motor Brigade
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
22nd Australian Brigade

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Night Naval bombardment of Kudat at 69,86

Allied Ships
CA San Francisco
CA Minneapolis
CA Chicago
CA Chester
DD Yarnall
DD Wickes
DD Waller
DD Walker
DD Twining
DD Fletcher
DD Lyman K. Swenson
DD Brush

Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled


Port hits 19
Port fuel hits 10
Port supply hits 5

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA San Francisco
CA San Francisco firing at Kudat

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Ground combat at Manila (79,77)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5886 troops, 564 guns, 425 vehicles, Assault Value = 3933

Defending force 117551 troops, 1350 guns, 1635 vehicles, Assault Value = 3366

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 29 (9 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)


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Reinforcements: Mega-sub!

E No.215 arrives at Tokyo
SS I-400 arrives at Hiroshima/Kure


Losses: none.

Ships Sunk:

LCT-58 is reported to have been sunk near Sorong on Jul 23, 1944
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This is pretty cool, but probably useless. It's certainly not going to close down the Panama Canal.
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SUBS: Jocke sends PTs and then DDs into Bataan now. None hit mines, and the DDs wreck two mini subs. Then the next day they come in again and take out my mine laying Es. Grrrr. I do have some subs on the way here to add to the minefields. Hopefully before anything larger decides it's safe.

DEI: More bombing at Kudat. It's starting to wear the brigade down, but at this point I'm happy if the Allies are bombing Kudat with 300+ 4Es.

STRAT BOMBING: Another big raid came in, this time to Osaka, and was lined up in the sights of over 40 NF, but somehow the B-29s reversed the trend today and knocked down 16 NF for the loss of one plane to ops! There was no difference in my settings, and this is more NF than were at Tokyo for the first attack there that shot down ~10 planes. In fact these have even better pilots. I'll have to now go through all of the HQ leaders, the group leaders and see if anything is less than optimal.

So far over 150 HI points are gone and the fires still rage. Damn matchstick construction.

CHINA/INDOCHINA: All TFs moved safely along the Indochinese coastline and no CV incursions.

LUZON: No bombardments during these turns. The new brigade is nearly installed in Lingayen bringing AV to around 800. I'd like to get it to 1k+ and I'm sending in a few more

THAILAND: Only the Chinese are left in Bangkok. About 2600AV worth. Interesting. So that bodes well for unit removal. Now those ships have to get there fast!

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Sub attack near Bataan at 78,77

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-D-101, hits 11, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD William Porter
DD Murray

SSX Ha-D-101 launches 2 torpedoes at DD William Porter
Ha-D-101 bottoming out ....
DD William Porter attacking submerged sub ....
Debris floats to surface in area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub

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Night Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 13
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 27

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 13 damaged

Manpower hits 27
Fires 12875

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Night Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 10
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 5

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged

Manpower hits 1
Fires 14420

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet *
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
302 Ku S-3 with J1N1-Sa Irving (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
106th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar

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Submarine attack near Bataan at 78,77

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-D-102, hits 15, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Murray
DD William Porter

SSX Ha-D-102 is sighted by escort
DD William Porter attacking submerged sub ....
SSX Ha-D-102 forced to surface!
DD William Porter firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

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Sub attack near Chichi-jima at 111,71

Japanese Ships
E No.23
E No.31

Allied Ships
SS Chub, hits 5

SS Chub launches 2 torpedoes at E No.23
E No.31 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.31 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

Night Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E Takashima, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
E Aotaka, Shell hits 1
E Wakataka, Shell hits 21, heavy fires, heavy damage


Allied Ships
DD Murray
DD Owen
DD Picking
DD William Porter

Improved night sighting under 96% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 96% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
DD William Porter engages E Aotaka at 11,000 yards

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Ground combat at Bangkok (56,62)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 345 troops, 21 guns, 23 vehicles, Assault Value = 1640

Defending force 62371 troops, 528 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2758

Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
48th Division
4th Division
9th Division
34th Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
35th Ind.Mixed Brigade
61st Construction Battalion
13th JAAF Base Force
39th Army
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
11th Shipping Engineer Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Base Force
23rd JNAF AF Unit
67th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
5th Chinese Corps
16th Chindit Brigade
1st New Chinese Corps
6th Chinese Corps


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Ground combat at Kudat (69,86)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9669 troops, 162 guns, 168 vehicles, Assault Value = 404

Defending force 4908 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 155

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
3rd Motor Brigade
22nd Australian Brigade

Defending units:
63rd Infantry Brigade
172nd JAAF AF Bn


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Ground combat at Kiriwina Island (102,131)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 483 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 28

Defending force 2984 troops, 13 guns, 88 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Allied adjusted assault: 2

Japanese adjusted defense: 67

Allied assault odds: 1 to 33 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
2nd Fiji Commando Battalion

Defending units:
8th Area Army
22nd Ind. Engineer Regiment
51st JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at Rossel Island (105,137)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1291 troops, 22 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 51

Defending force 722 troops, 0 guns, 91 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Allied adjusted assault: 19

Japanese adjusted defense: 151

Allied assault odds: 1 to 7 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
N Force Detachment

Defending units:
19th Tank Regiment
3rd JNAF AF Unit /1

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Ground combat at 55,59 (near Tavoy)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5110 troops, 310 guns, 355 vehicles, Assault Value = 2607

Defending force 161283 troops, 1645 guns, 2722 vehicles, Assault Value = 3588

Japanese ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

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Reinforcements:

E Chikubu arrives at Tokyo
E No.82 arrives at Tokyo
E No.84 arrives at Tokyo
69th JNAF AF Unit arrives at Tokyo
III/66th Naval Guard Unit arrives at Tokyo


Losses:

Loss of SSX Ha-D-101 on Dec 30, 1944 is admitted
Loss of SSX Ha-D-102 on Dec 30, 1944 is admitted


Ships Sunk:

Previous report of sinking of SS S-39 incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of CVE White Plains incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service

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On the day 14 DINAH II KAI lost and 2 Irving-Sa. Fires still burn.
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The date on the current turn is January 1, 1945! Amazing.

So now I've got tracker updated to show how dire the situation is for the Japanese. After updating of course I lost all previous turns, so this only show one turn in October and the current for reference. This is the global industry and resources report.

Oil is critical, fuel is only good for around a few more months of production, and very little may move up to the HI now if the Allies get serious about a blockade.

Resources look okay, and I have curtailed any long trips to haul these back. Only the short haul Hokkaido and Fusan trips will continue.




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Here is another look at it. This shows we're still using too much fuel in ships, but the ones running now will stop soon, one way or another.

The HI is perhaps more than I'll need considering the other parts. I should be able to make make make. The question is whether I'll be able to fly and fight.




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Not much to say here. Just an explanation of the massive fuel depot on Kyushu. That would be Nagasaki where virtually every transport and excess ship has been disbanded for ages. I'm starting to get them out and docked in other ports, both to reduce port strike losses coming soon and to help this fuel be redistributed. Also these ships will function as replenishment points for necessary shipping, siphoning it out of the tanks of numerous Aden and Std xAK.

So maybe 4 months of HI production still? That is about what I had planned for, getting through April still making supply and HI at some level. If Osaka and Tokyo get wiped out completely it could last longer I guess!

Supply is down to 16k production a day, down from 25k+a day earlier. This will hurt going forward. If I were really being smart I'd shut down any further R n D and factory repairs, but I think I'll keep them going. It's 208k still left to repair. It's only about two weeks worth of supply production even now, really. I just mainly want to see what happens at this point. It's all an experiment.




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