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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/21/2013 2:37:44 PM   
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HOME ISLANDS: I just realized the islands off the SW coast of Kyushu are under the Southern Army HQ!!! Who's idea was that?!? Doesn't make any sense when the entire island of Formosa is General Defense! It really complicates matters as I'll have to pay PPs to send troops there, even for the little garrisons I've planned. It has to be done, but it really is too bad.


Hi Obvert - great AAR. I really need to get back to work on mine.

To the point above, somewhere I read that you can switch those bases over to General Defense by taking a small, cheap (PP), unit, un-restrict it, move it to the base you want to flip, change it back to Gen Def, then you will be able to change the base. Rinse and repeat for each base you want to make GD. I don't think it costs much to change the base, and then you can use air trans to move units to those islands without having to buy PPs for each unit.

Just a thought.


Thanks. Glad you're finding something here.

Yeah, I've done the switch several times on various other islands near the HI, but with these I only really want to put naval guard units there anyway. So it's using too many PPs either way, if you see what I mean. I'll probably switch a few and then see if some small units come back I can change as they arrive for a lower PP cost to save there. I am literally always at zero in PPs, from day one.


To add to this, the PP cost is determined on the port and airstrip size. A small 1,1 base will cost a day or two of PP's, a bigger base will cost much, much more. That means it's only really effective for the small bases around Japan.

What is worthwhile, however, is building the small bases up using air-transported engineers and flying the General Defence restricted air units out to operate from these bases.


That is how I've done it. The cheapest unit I've found is an AF Coy, especially if I get them as they're rebuilding. A few of the bases have a bigger port, or port and airfield, and so cost more. All of this is just a drain on getting units put together that have pieces in various HQs, getting some more bought back and everything else I need PPs for.

I think as the situation becomes more desperate for Japan the PPs should increase, as there would be less reason to keep units restricted if they are needed in vital defensive areas, like Hokkaido, Okinawa and the Bonins for instance. Some stuff can't fly.

In a similar situation for the Allies I think PPs should increase if Japan crosses the LOD in India or OZ, or invades the West Coast. There is no way troops would be held back i these situations.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/21/2013 2:48:57 PM   
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HOME ISLANDS: I just realized the islands off the SW coast of Kyushu are under the Southern Army HQ!!! Who's idea was that?!? Doesn't make any sense when the entire island of Formosa is General Defense! It really complicates matters as I'll have to pay PPs to send troops there, even for the little garrisons I've planned. It has to be done, but it really is too bad.


Hi Obvert - great AAR. I really need to get back to work on mine.

To the point above, somewhere I read that you can switch those bases over to General Defense by taking a small, cheap (PP), unit, un-restrict it, move it to the base you want to flip, change it back to Gen Def, then you will be able to change the base. Rinse and repeat for each base you want to make GD. I don't think it costs much to change the base, and then you can use air trans to move units to those islands without having to buy PPs for each unit.

Just a thought.


Thanks. Glad you're finding something here.

Yeah, I've done the switch several times on various other islands near the HI, but with these I only really want to put naval guard units there anyway. So it's using too many PPs either way, if you see what I mean. I'll probably switch a few and then see if some small units come back I can change as they arrive for a lower PP cost to save there. I am literally always at zero in PPs, from day one.


To add to this, the PP cost is determined on the port and airstrip size. A small 1,1 base will cost a day or two of PP's, a bigger base will cost much, much more. That means it's only really effective for the small bases around Japan.

What is worthwhile, however, is building the small bases up using air-transported engineers and flying the General Defence restricted air units out to operate from these bases.


That is how I've done it. The cheapest unit I've found is an AF Coy, especially if I get them as they're rebuilding. A few of the bases have a bigger port, or port and airfield, and so cost more. All of this is just a drain on getting units put together that have pieces in various HQs, getting some more bought back and everything else I need PPs for.

I think as the situation becomes more desperate for Japan the PPs should increase, as there would be less reason to keep units restricted if they are needed in vital defensive areas, like Hokkaido, Okinawa and the Bonins for instance. Some stuff can't fly.

In a similar situation for the Allies I think PPs should increase if Japan crosses the LOD in India or OZ, or invades the West Coast. There is no way troops would be held back i these situations.


PP's, I think, deserve a major overhaul. For me, at least, a flexible and reactive PP system would make a far bigger impact on the game than mods tweaking various things or changing the Japanese set-up.

While PP's make sense at the start of the war when both sides had military commitments elsewhere, they make less and less sense as the war develops.

The idea that the IJ High Command doesn't have the political power to release a division from the Home Islands for Burma in 1942 makes a fair bit of sense. What makes less sense is if they lack the political power to send it over a tiny stretch of ocean to Hokkaido when the Americans are breaking down the doors.

Conversely, the Americans and British can't divert units from other theaters or take planes from the production line that weren't historically sent to the Pacific.

In my mind, PP's would react to the map's circumstances, and the PP cost of units would decrease as various map sectors were taken by the opposing side. If Pearl Harbour was occupied, there would be a lesser cost to release American units for the Pacific theater. If America occupies the Kuriles, the same for Japan. Ditto with the British and a Japanese occupied Ceylon and the Austrilians with Japanese on the mainland.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/22/2013 7:22:23 PM   
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DEI: Happily, the Allies have continued bombing in the DEI, with about 120-30 2E hitting Saumlaki, where my Georges were based and where a few still sit on the fields. They're slowly disappearing, but not nearly as quickly as the bombers hitting them, which lose 5-10 in ops per day. Some of that is due to hitting balloons in the base as they're flying at 6k. Shhhhhhhh!!

RECON: The next target for HI bombing? a lot of Central China being reconned as well.

Allied Aircraft sighted over Nagoya

CHINA: Okay. Big news. the Chinese are moving out of Chungking. While not unexpected, it's amazing to think they have the supply to think of doing something. I guess with enough guys wielding pitchforks and axes you could challenge an experienced division or two, right?

Nothing would make me happier than these guys shocking over a river with no supply and losing 200k+ troops. A big supply shipment is on the way to China, but there aren't many forces left to deal with these in the center. I do have some good reserve brigades I'll send up there.

LUZON: I don't really understand the use of 4Es and 2Es anymore by the Allies. They must have good recon on my troops everywhere, and must see that I've basically removed most of 6 divisions (although beat-up ones) from Luzon. Yet the Allied bombers continue to hit one base at a time, en masse, all 400-500 of them. It's closed for a day, then opened enough to start flying troops again after 2-3 days. At the same time the ports are never touched and I can fly from there easily. Concentration has served the Allies well in areas, but as a general approach it can be exploited by simply using the areas that are not concentrated on. If you're reading both sides, mum's the word.

I have a feeling though that once the discovery is made there will be another discussion about flying troops out. I'm bracing for that one, but still moving forward with the operation. It's too important right now to get even half strength 'free' divisions out of Luzon, especially if they keep some of their experience. They will head immediately to Tokyo to get repaired more quickly. Only a few even have fragments left on Luzon, and I'm sending those directly into the fray.

HOME ISLANDS: Supply will be tight as massive shipments roll out. I hope to then let it catch up for a week or so. A lot of troops are coming soon though too, so we may reach a breaking point where I have to shut it all down. Hopefully not the week the Allies move forward!

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 20, 45
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Morning Air attack on Laoag , at 81,72

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 8

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet

CAP engaged:
105th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 32000
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Saumlaki , at 78,117

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Beaufort VIII x 14
A-20G Havoc x 12
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort VIII: 4 damaged
A-20G Havoc: 2 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Laoag , at 81,72

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 36
Liberator GR.VI x 30
B-24J Liberator x 10
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 4
B-24J Liberator x 174
P-38L Lightning x 6
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 21
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-II KAI Helen: 5 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 6 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 7 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Airbase hits 30
Airbase supply hits 24
Runway hits 258

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Bataan (78,77)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11274 troops, 222 guns, 352 vehicles, Assault Value = 420

Defending force 2725 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 55

Allied adjusted assault: 185

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 61 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
720 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
754th Tank Battalion
25th Infantry Division

Defending units:
52nd Naval Guard Unit
15th Base Force
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 21, 45
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Morning Air attack on Aparri , at 82,73

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 24
Liberator GR.VI x 15
B-24J Liberator x 11
B-17E Fortress x 5
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 4
B-24D1 Liberator x 3
B-24J Liberator x 128
P-38J Lightning x 21
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 18
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 5

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 5 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 16
Runway hits 109

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Reinforcements:

E Oga arrives at Tokyo
E No.190 arrives at Tokyo
MTB G-1030 arrives at Nagoya
MGB G-465 arrives at Kobe
27th Fld AA Gun Co arrives at Tokyo
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion arrives at Tokyo
3rd Medium Mortar Battalion arrives at Tokyo
10th RF Gun Battalion arrives at Tokyo
1st Raiding Sentai arrives at Kagoshima
2nd Tpt.Chutai arrives at Nagasaki/Sasebo
34th Ind.AA Gun Co arrives at Tokyo

Losses: none.

Ships Sunk:

SS Icefish is reported to have been sunk near Cam Ranh Bay on Dec 21, 1944
Previous report of sinking of DD Frazier incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
PT-277 is reported to have been sunk near Batangas on Jan 21, 1945
TK Hugoton is reported to have been sunk near Hollandia on Oct 08, 1944
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As promised earlier here is a shot of all of the important industry destroyed (minus oil, which was also a big target but which doesn't matter much at this point since al lot it is out of reach except in the North). Only the Ha-43 engines will be repaired.

These are also only the bases that are still in the Empire. Others like Saigon, Bangkok, Soerabaja and Manila were ruined as well.
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/25/2013 8:05:16 AM   
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DEI: Still bombing Saumlaki, still taking ops losses to balloons.

STRAT BOMBING: Nothing for a bit. Wonder if there is a re-basing to Manila going on right now for the ones that were in the Marianas. It would make sense, brining them closer and might account for the recon below ... .

RECON: Some more in Central China, and an interesting flyover of Fukuoka.

Allied Aircraft sighted over Liuchow
Allied Aircraft sighted over Kweiyang

Allied Recon sighted over Fukuoka

CHINA: not sure how much the Chinese are moving yet. Still nothing has crossed the border from Chungking. On two roads they'll have to cross rivers into +2-3 terrain to reach their destinations. If they head to the mountains they'll face level 9 forts at Kunming. Either way the first attack will be a doozy.

LUZON: The Allies contiue with the big bombardments, hitting Aparri these turns. They take out nearly 1k troops each day, which is great. The quicker the better so I can get some of these base forces bought back (cheaply) to the HI.

A fast transport TF heading for Laong was attacked by Avengers and B-25s but none hit the ships. About 30 bombers were downed on the day. I'll try to sneak a few TFs in under LR CAP to Laong to get some of the brigades I've not had a chance to fly out. Not much else these whips will be doing, so worth a try.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 22, 45
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Morning Air attack on 9th Fleet, at 82,73 (Aparri)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 9
Liberator GR.VI x 13
B-24D1 Liberator x 3
B-24J Liberator x 72
B-25G Mitchell x 10
B-25H Mitchell x 61
B-25J1 Mitchell x 33
B-25J11 Mitchell x 12
P-38J Lightning x 21
P-38L Lightning x 55
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 9
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 6
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 23
PBJ-1J Mitchell x 14
PV-1 Ventura x 11

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 2 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 3 damaged
B-25J1 Mitchell: 2 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 5 damaged
PBJ-1J Mitchell: 3 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
824 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 166 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Orchid Island at 85,67

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 13
N1K2-J George x 6

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Avenger II: 11 destroyed

Japanese Ships
APD T-5

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Avenger II bombing from 10000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Orchid Island at 85,67

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 9
N1K2-J George x 5

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
APD T-1
APD T-5

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
8 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Orchid Island at 85,67

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 5
N1K2-J George x 9

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 5 destroyed

Japanese Ships
APD T-5

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Orchid Island at 85,67

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 4
N1K2-J George x 7

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
APD T-1
AMC Aikoku Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Orchid Island at 85,67

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5c Zero x 1
N1K2-J George x 1

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AMC Aikoku Maru
APD T-1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 23, 45
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Morning Air attack on 40th JAAF AF Bn , at 82,73 (Aparri)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 28
Liberator GR.VI x 19
B-24J Liberator x 10
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D1 Liberator x 3
B-24J Liberator x 117
P-38L Lightning x 7
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 30
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 5

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 4 damaged
Liberator GR.VI: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
851 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 66 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 41 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (4 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Reinforcements: The J7W1 is moving forward, and I'll only be able to produce 90 of them by the time they arrive.

MGB G-466 arrives at Hiroshima/Kure
582 Ku S-1 arrives at Tokyo
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment arrives at Tokyo
xAK Nirvana is reported to have been sunk near Dadjangas on Sep 09, 1944
MGB G-467 arrives at Shimonoseki
50th Sentai arrives at Takao
S-316 Hikotai arrives at Kagi
S-310 Hikotai arrives at Kagoshima
114th Shinbu-tai arrives at Rashin
2nd Medium Mortar Battalion arrives at Tokyo

Aircraft J7W1 Shinden advances R&D

Losses: none.

Ships Sunk:

AM Exploit is reported to have been sunk near Cotabato on Aug 18, 1944
AK Cabell is reported to have been sunk near Milne Bay on Oct 03, 1944
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A look at the South China Sea area. With all of the troops flying into Formosa and the planes flying them, it's been hard to keep the bases in supply. I've got more moving out in the next few days.
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/25/2013 12:03:25 PM   
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DEI: Singers will be a minor fortress, much like for the Allies in the beginning of the game. About 1k AV will make it there, and the supply will be very good for a long stand. Might as well make him fight for it if he wants it.

STRAT BOMBING: The B-29s finally chose a base with NF, and we got maybe 3-4 of them for about 3 NF lost. They still took out most of the remaining LI at Hong Kong.

LUZON: The fast transport turned into a small fiasco. They picked up the troops, but not during the night, and were left sitting at Laong. Our LR CAP didn't make it to defend the ships, and 5 APD and one AMC lost.

RECON:As shown in the report below, it's tough to fly recon missions these days! Lost a few over Manila and Haiphong. I'll suspend daily flights and just use them when I need to.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 24, 45
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Night Air attack on Liuchow , at 74,55

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 31

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged

Light Industry hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Vigan , at 80,73

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 16
Liberator GR.VI x 6
B-24J Liberator x 5
B-24D Liberator x 4
B-24J Liberator x 72
B-25H Mitchell x 11
B-25J1 Mitchell x 24
B-25J11 Mitchell x 12
P-38L Lightning x 52
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 9
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 10
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 23
PV-1 Ventura x 12

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 6 damaged
B-25J1 Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 damaged
PB4Y-2 Privateer: 3 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Airbase hits 28
Airbase supply hits 14
Runway hits 158

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Aparri (82,73)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3805 troops, 18 guns, 559 vehicles, Assault Value = 300

Defending force 3653 troops, 43 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 24

Allied adjusted assault: 236

Japanese adjusted defense: 22

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied forces CAPTURE Aparri !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1430 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 266 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 51 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 8
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
775th Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
713th Flame Tank Battalion

Defending units:
90th Nav Gd /1
40th JAAF AF Bn
9th Fleet
52nd Construction Battalion
34th JAAF AF Bn
Maizuru 1st SNLF
63rd JNAF AF Unit
7th RF Gun Battalion
10th JAAF Base Force /1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 25, 45
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Night Air attack on Hong Kong , at 77,61

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 13
P1Y2-S Frances x 13

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 8 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Light Industry hits 37

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 81,72

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 10
SBD-5 Dauntless x 8

Allied aircraft losses
Avenger II: 1 damaged
Avenger II: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
APD T-8, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
APD T-1, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AMC Aikoku Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
APD T-12

Japanese ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Avenger II launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APD T-1
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AMC Aikoku Maru


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 81,72

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-5 Dauntless x 21

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
APD T-13, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
APD T-12, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
APD T-4, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
APD T-8, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
763 casualties reported
Squads: 38 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (7 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APD T-13
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APD T-4
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APD T-12

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 81,72

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-5 Dauntless x 18

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
APD T-1, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMC Aikoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
APD T-5, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
E Yasoshima, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
437 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APD T-1
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AMC Aikoku Maru


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 81,72

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-5 Dauntless x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
APD T-4, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
APD T-12, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
APD T-8, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
990 casualties reported
Squads: 43 destroyed, 49 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (8 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
9 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APD T-4
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APD T-12

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 81,72

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12
P-38L Lightning x 25

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
APD T-5, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMC Aikoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
E Yasoshima, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Japanese ground losses:
213 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 6 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring APD T-5
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AMC Aikoku Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring E Yasoshima

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Reinforcements:

MTB G-1031 arrives at Yokohama/Yokosuka
MGB G-468 arrives at Yokohama/Yokosuka
22nd Shinbu-tai arrives at Tsu

Losses:

Loss of E Yasoshima on Feb 25, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AK Tosan Maru on Jan 06, 1945 is admitted
Loss of APD T-1 on Feb 25, 1945 is admitted
Loss of APD T-4 on Feb 25, 1945 is admitted
Loss of APD T-5 on Feb 25, 1945 is admitted
Loss of APD T-8 on Feb 25, 1945 is admitted
Loss of APD T-13 on Feb 25, 1945 is admitted

Ships Sunk:

Previous report of sinking of DD Hank incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
xAK Age is reported to have been sunk near Darwin on Mar 10, 1944
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/26/2013 2:16:38 PM   
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SUBS: One of our supply runs is hit on the way to Cam Ran by the Kraken (one of the most well named subs of the war). It decided to attack on the surface, but the xAKL, the Hinode Maru, hits the sub twice with it's own deck gun (8cm I think) and the sub commander decides to submerge due to damage! It's the little things at this stage that make the turns worth it.

The ship reached Cam Ran but did not disband as ordered before an air strike came in and sank the ship with two 500lb bombs.

CHINA: Supply is low, but starting to flow around now. The Allies are moving up to face the troops near Nanning. We'll see how much soon.

LUZON: Kamis went for some AMs near Lingayen, sinking one for about 15 Frances. The ratio has really sucked so far.

Lots of units are now being destroyed by Allied attacks on Luzon. A few division fragments are already gone. Now if he just goes right in and attacks Laong, maybe I can get the rest of the few guns and mechanized transport wiped out.

HOME ISLANDS: A bunch of new divisions arrive. I should be able to buy about one every ten days, and then they'll have to fill out. It could get a decent sized defense force to Hokkaido within 30-50 days though, and that's what needs to happen. I also have an unrestricted division at Fusan building up and one coming back in from the Kuriles as well. It's making me feel a bit safer after all of the recent recon up there. Of course, if the Allies bring enough, they could land anywhere right now.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 26, 45
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Submarine attack near Cam Ranh Bay at 64,73

Japanese Ships
xAKL Hinode Maru

Allied Ships
SS Kraken, hits 2

xAKL Hinode Maru is sighted by SS Kraken
SS Kraken attacking on the surface
Henry, T.H. decides to submerge SS Kraken due to damage

Morning Air attack on Iba , at 78,75

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 13
Liberator GR.VI x 10
B-17F Fortress x 6
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 88
B-25G Mitchell x 11
B-25H Mitchell x 8
B-25J1 Mitchell x 35
B-25J11 Mitchell x 5
P-38L Lightning x 43
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 22
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 5
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 15
PBJ-1J Mitchell x 10
PV-1 Ventura x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Airbase hits 35
Airbase supply hits 20
Runway hits 83

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 64,72

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 9
F4U-1A Corsair x 16
TBM-3 Avenger x 19

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Hinode Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x TBM-3 Avenger bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 55,59 (near Tavoy)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 19347 troops, 54 guns, 55 vehicles, Assault Value = 28

Defending force 21443 troops, 166 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 597

Assault collapses, survivors seek cover

Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 31 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 42 (42 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1 Tank division!

Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Division
22nd Tank Regiment
2nd Area Army
75th Infantry Brigade
33rd Division
2nd Division
39th Division
5th Division
38th Division
16th Division
25th Army
29th Ind.Mixed Brigade
19th Army
28th Army
2nd Army
24th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Guards Division
55th Division
18th Division
Burma Area Army
15th Army
5th Mortar Battalion
79th Brigade
1st Ind.Mixed Regiment
21st Division
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
7th JAAF Base Force

Defending units:
2nd New Chinese Corps
NCAC
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 27, 45
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Lingayen at 79,75

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y2 Frances x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y2 Frances: 5 destroyed

Allied Ships
AM Rajputana, Kamikaze hits 2, and is sunk
AM Guysborough

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P1Y2 Frances flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 1st Base Force, at 78,75 (Iba)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 3
B-24J Liberator x 5
B-17F Fortress x 6
B-24J Liberator x 103
B-25G Mitchell x 8
B-25H Mitchell x 9
B-25J1 Mitchell x 11
P-38L Lightning x 36
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 14
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 18
PV-1 Ventura x 11

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Iba (78,75)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 32863 troops, 849 guns, 960 vehicles, Assault Value = 1469

Defending force 31266 troops, 416 guns, 227 vehicles, Assault Value = 229

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 631

Japanese adjusted defense: 307

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2137 casualties reported
Squads: 35 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 66 destroyed, 118 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 19 disabled
Guns lost 56 (28 destroyed, 28 disabled)
Vehicles lost 42 (19 destroyed, 23 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
326 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 28 (1 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

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Ground combat at Vigan (80,73)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42820 troops, 598 guns, 1507 vehicles, Assault Value = 1954

Defending force 3563 troops, 76 guns, 250 vehicles, Assault Value = 43

Allied adjusted assault: 882

Japanese adjusted defense: 13

Allied assault odds: 67 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Vigan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), disruption(-), preparation(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
818 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 200 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 84 (75 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 193 (193 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 7
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Reinforcements: A few reinforcements arrive!!! These are not great divisions, and will have to fill out.

143rd Division arrives at Nagoya
144th Division arrives at Osaka/Kyoto
153rd Division arrives at Osaka/Kyoto
155th Division arrives at Kochi
6th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment arrives at Okayama
145th Division arrives at Hiroshima/Kure
146th Division arrives at Kumamoto
154th Division arrives at Hiroshima/Kure
156th Division arrives at Kumamoto
140th Division arrives at Tokyo
152nd Division arrives at Kanazawa
151st Division arrives at Kanazawa
26th Medium Field Artillery Regiment arrives at Tokyo
142nd Division arrives at Sendai
157th Division arrives at Hirosaki/Aomori
150th Division arrives at Masan
160th Division arrives at Masan
6th Ind. Field Artillery Regiment arrives at Keijo
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion arrives at Tokyo
306th Infantry Regiment arrives at Toyohara
8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment arrives at Asahikawa
E No.192 arrives at Tokyo
47th Shinbu-tai arrives at Hamamatsu
10th Air Fleet arrives at Utsonomiya
14th RF Gun (Pack) Battalion arrives at Tokyo

Losses:

Loss of xAKL Hinode Maru on Feb 26, 1945 is admitted


Ships Sunk:

Previous report of sinking of CV Bunker Hill incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of DD Hall incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of SS Moray incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
AM Rajputana is reported to have been sunk near Lingayen on Feb 27, 1945
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I finally turned off the A6M factories. There are 500+ of the A6M5b in the pool and after the damage to the engine factories at Tokyo, I now need to start conserving the Ha-35. There are 700 in the pool now, but the Tsurugi is still to come online in about a month.
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/26/2013 3:10:54 PM   
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How filled out are they on arrival? Just 1/3?

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/26/2013 10:29:12 PM   
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Jeez. 15 divisions in a day.

How filled out are they on arrival? Just 1/3?


Yeah, which is great and I can buy them out cheap. In a month or two they'll be filled out and ready to go, plus free to send to wherever I need them.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/26/2013 11:32:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Jeez. 15 divisions in a day.

How filled out are they on arrival? Just 1/3?


Yeah, which is great and I can buy them out cheap. In a month or two they'll be filled out and ready to go, plus free to send to wherever I need them.


Japan in 1945: Where trashed divisions are seen as a good thing!

At this late stage, where's your main focus for reinforcement? Deploying them to Formosa must be getting risky now, surely?

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/27/2013 6:32:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: obvert


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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Jeez. 15 divisions in a day.

How filled out are they on arrival? Just 1/3?


Yeah, which is great and I can buy them out cheap. In a month or two they'll be filled out and ready to go, plus free to send to wherever I need them.


Japan in 1945: Where trashed divisions are seen as a good thing!

At this late stage, where's your main focus for reinforcement? Deploying them to Formosa must be getting risky now, surely?

Brand new low exp trashed divisions! But the older ones with 75-80 exp that are trashed are even better!

There's not much risk in getting them there, but with the massive troop allocation that's now on Formosa there is not much need for more. It's got about 8k AV spread through the bases, and a few CD gun equipped base forces in addition to the set forts.

Of course he could move a CV death star anywhere right now and close off the sealanes. Can't do much about that.


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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/27/2013 12:12:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		downside of the div's coming in at 1/3 is that now it also take supply in addition to ARM/VEH to fill them out.

CV Deathstars => 1000 plane kami attacks. You should be able to get 3 -5 CV's every time you do that. 3-4 attacks and there is no more death star.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/27/2013 6:47:50 PM   
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downside of the div's coming in at 1/3 is that now it also take supply in addition to ARM/VEH to fill them out.

CV Deathstars => 1000 plane kami attacks. You should be able to get 3 -5 CV's every time you do that. 3-4 attacks and there is no more death star.


I'm curious if that rule works with the beta. I don't think it'll be the same as LBA comes out in so many small packages all spread apart that it's not likely to get enough escorts to break a lot of bombers through. Also the flak is stronger and so using planes like the Oscar will be tougher.

So far I've not converted enough groups to get to 1000 kamis as there are still more well-trained pilots in the pools than kami pilots, and I'd rather have some planes come back if possible. My hit ratio for kamis with no CAP has been atrocious so far, even against poorly escorted merchants and troopships. It just seems that the flak has changed the game as has the coordination differences.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/28/2013 12:40:27 AM   
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Another month into 45, and things are relatively quiet.

DEI: Batavia falls. There is little to stop the Allies in this area as nearly everything has been evacuated to Singapore.

STRAT BOMBING: Nothing lately. Something big seems to be brewing, or perhaps there aren't many intact groups of the B-29-25 left.

CHINA: The Chinese continue to move and the Allied troops in the South engage our blockade. The Allied Mega-stack is at 8500 AV and toped up with arty and support. This looks like it could punch through. Yuck. We've got good forts but it's only +2 terrain.

Tried a sweep with Ki-83 at Haiphong and got about 1:2 against Brit T-Bolts.

LUZON: Troop remnants from Aparri are vaporized. Iba is about to be annihilated and several units are destroyed. Some of these I've removed pieces of, but most will simply be wiped out. All of the six divisions, all of which are about half strength, had their fragments destroyed and will now be able to rebuild fully and more quickly.

I tried a sweep into the thick of Allied CAP with the Ki-83. Not a good idea. Lost about 15 for about 2-3 Allied fighters over Batangas and will have to sit for a few turns recovering.

HOME ISLANDS: A bunch of arty is on the way to Hokkaido that has been bought back. Also bringing some shore guns to the likely landing bases.

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Morning Air attack on 3rd Base Force, at 78,75 (Iba)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 13
Liberator GR.VI x 17
B-24J Liberator x 5
B-17E Fortress x 3
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 4
B-24D1 Liberator x 8
B-24J Liberator x 53
B-25G Mitchell x 8
B-25H Mitchell x 36
B-25J1 Mitchell x 35
B-25J11 Mitchell x 7
P-38L Lightning x 36
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 17
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 3
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 15
PV-1 Ventura x 22

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Iba (78,75)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 32565 troops, 848 guns, 960 vehicles, Assault Value = 1443

Defending force 29049 troops, 368 guns, 211 vehicles, Assault Value = 171

Allied adjusted assault: 441

Japanese adjusted defense: 244

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1083 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 66 destroyed, 100 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 41 (17 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Vehicles lost 34 (15 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)


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Morning Air attack on Batangas , at 79,78

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 76

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 68
P-51D Mustang x 145
F4U-1A Corsair x 39
F4U-1D Corsair x 45
F6F-3 Hellcat x 37
F6F-5 Hellcat x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
49 x Ki-83 sweeping at 32000 feet

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Ground combat at 82,72 (near Aparri)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 14444 troops, 233 guns, 765 vehicles, Assault Value = 690

Defending force 1353 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Allied adjusted assault: 408

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 408 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1813 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 251 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (11 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 5

Assaulting units:
775th Tank Battalion
762nd Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
6th Infantry Division
713th Flame Tank Battalion

Defending units:
9th Fleet
52nd Construction Battalion
40th JAAF AF Bn
34th JAAF AF Bn
10th JAAF Base Force /1

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Ground combat at Iba (78,75)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42729 troops, 1064 guns, 1165 vehicles, Assault Value = 1418

Defending force 25649 troops, 283 guns, 187 vehicles, Assault Value = 110

Allied adjusted assault: 262

Japanese adjusted defense: 208

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2261 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 169 destroyed, 108 disabled
Engineers: 44 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 50 (15 destroyed, 35 disabled)
Vehicles lost 20 (16 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units destroyed 4

Allied ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

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Ground combat at Batavia (49,98)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26692 troops, 277 guns, 470 vehicles, Assault Value = 1173

Defending force 5983 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 62

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 756

Japanese adjusted defense: 107

Allied assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Batavia !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3037 casualties reported
Squads: 39 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 151 destroyed, 63 disabled
Engineers: 69 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 14 (4 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Units retreated 7
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
186 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
7th Australian Division
124th Cavalry Regiment
1st Army Tank Regiment
2/6th Armoured Regiment
5th Australian Division
I Australian Corps

Defending units:
III/19th Naval Guard Unit
4th Indpt SNLF Coy
5th Indpt SNLF Coy
7th Shipping Engineer Regiment
64th Construction Battalion
10th Area Fleet
13th Field AF Construction Battalion
25th JAAF AF Bn

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 3, 45
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Morning Air attack on Laoag , at 81,72

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 223
P-38J Lightning x 22

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Airbase hits 42
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 135

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Haiphong , at 68,57

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 41

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt I x 113
Thunderbolt II x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt I: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-83 sweeping at 32000 feet
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 4, 45
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Ground combat at 71,56 (near Lang Son)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 177866 troops, 3610 guns, 3860 vehicles, Assault Value = 8586

Defending force 115426 troops, 1112 guns, 576 vehicles, Assault Value = 3797

Japanese ground losses:
262 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
50th Tank Brigade
Gardner's Horse Regiment
41st Infantry Division
2nd British Division
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
81st (West African) Division
36th British Division
18th British Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
14th Indian Division
254th Armoured Brigade
26th Indian Division
9th Indian Division
XV Corps Engineer Battalion
7th Infantry Division
209th Combat Engineer Battalion
19th Motorised Division
IV Corps Engineer Battalion
11th PAVO Regiment
6th Australian Division
17th Motorised Division
14th Army Engineer Battalion
5th Indian Division
11th (East African) Division
XXXIII Corps Engineer Battalion
18th Cavalry Regiment
Guides Cavalry Regiment
Provisionl Tank Brigade
43rd Infantry Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
27th Infantry Division
9th Australian Division
2/11th Field Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
208th Field Regiment
8th Belfast Heavy Regiment
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment
III Indian Corps
India Command
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
12th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
14th Army
86th Medium Regiment
134th (East Ang) Regiment
134th Medium Regiment
85th Medium Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
33rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
20th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
48th Light AA Regiment
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
2nd Indian Heavy AA Regiment
Southeast Asia
163rd Light AA Regiment
XV Indian Corps
6th Medium Regiment
1st West African AA Regiment
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
1st Indian Medium Regiment
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
16th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
55th Heavy Regiment
17th Indian Light AA Regiment
87th Medium Regiment
77th Heavy AA Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
Provisional GMC Grp

Defending units:
58th Division
12th Ind.Infantry Brigade
3rd Division
32nd Division
60th Division
15th Division
17th Division
22nd Division
51st Division
65th Brigade
17th Army
2nd Ind. Field Artillery Regiment
29th Army
25th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
4th Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Air Defense AA Battalion
38th Army
28th RF Gun Battalion
53rd Field AA Battalion
12th RF Gun Battalion
8th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
35th Army
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd RF Gun Battalion
7th Ind. Field Artillery Battalion
14th Naval Construction Battalion
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Reinforcements:

DD Hagi arrives at Nagoya
210 Ku K-1 arrives at Bihoro
210 Ku K-2 arrives at Bihoro
210 Ku T-1 arrives at Bihoro
901 Ku T-8 arrives at Chiba
901 Ku T-9 arrives at Chiba
3rd Tank Division arrives at Tokyo
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment arrives at Tokyo
ML G-484 arrives at Hakodate
210 Ku K-1 arrives at Sapporo
210 Ku K-2 arrives at Kushiro

Losses:

Loss of AMc Tatebu Maru on Nov 01, 1944 is admitted

Ships Sunk:

TK Ardmore is reported to have been sunk near Hollandia on Oct 08, 1944
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SUBS: A LOT of subs are heading into the North China Sea. Something is happening. Looks like at least about 30-40 of them, a lot new that I've not seen before. I've got the ASW air sent in and a bunch of ASW TFs moving around as well. Some are hit hard. It'll be interesting what is going to happen next!

STRATEGY: I've come to the rather sobering conclusion that I really can't do much in 45 to slow the Allied progress. They can move on land with support of 400-500 4E and plow through resistance that in 43-44 would have stopped them cold. They can move anywhere with impunity on the sea and land with overwhelming force (without stacking limits) to take any point on the map. They can field more (yes more!) better fighters and take out any airfield complex within days.

This is what all Japanese players face eventually, but I have to say the beta has also changed the game from what I've seen in a lot of earlier AARs. From experiences so far I have little hope that massed LBA, kamis and the KB, even if perfectly placed to cooperate in defense, could really make a dent in the Allied Death Star. This is probably better for the game than the kind of raids that left rader vs GJ in an unfinished limbo. It probably means the Japanese player will simply have to suck it up, put a few dents in the clear coat of the Allies brand new Haze gray, and play out the turns, and it's a lot more turns than that 'difficult' part for the Allies when in 42 things aren't going well. Not so fun, but it is still interesting.

So, the strategy? Well, it's simple. Throw as much in way as I can and hope something hits and something holds. Formosa is hefty roadblock, but as will be seen in this and the next updates, it might simply be by-passed. That was not unexpected, but it's a trade-off. Something has to be built to scary fortress levels, and at least in Formosa it's close enough to China to get things off if needed. It would be very hard to isolate. This has left the defenses of the other islands, like Okinanwa, Hokkaido, still developing. I also have to start thinking of Honshu and Kyushu defense.

STRAT BOMBING: No strat bombing, but on the 8th the B-29s hit Shanghai with a zillion mines. I had NF up which of course did nothing. The minesweepers are heading in, and I don't dare move until they at least make some kind of a path. The entire KB is here, and ...

... the Allied CVs move up to near Okinawa!! Not sure yet if there is a target, but some landing ships look to be in the groups of TFs there. Also, if they want to try their luck on a raid at Shanghai, they are in range. There are 500 fighters in the base, but of course some bombers would get through and most of the fleet is either docked or disbanded here. Getting interesting.

CHINA: The Nanning roadblock is getting a solid pounding from bombardments. When supply is full the defense responds fairly well, and when it's not, it looks pretty bad. The Allies look to be heading around the block with some small forces toward the coast and a larger force inland, looking to be moving on the small road toward Nanning itself. That is fine. It's not likely enough to take the base even with the 500 AV there, but another division is on the way as well. That accounts for most of the Allied troops in the area now, which is good as none were used to take the easy bases along the coast amphibiously. It looks like the Chinese will move on Kweiyang. That would mean a river crossing into level 6 forts and maybe 1500 AV of experienced and supplied divisions. I'm feeling okay about that. If he has little supply. A big if.

LUZON: Iba is being ground to dust.

HOME ISLANDS: Some strike planes are set up in Kanoya and Kagoshima. Other bases are getting organized to strike, and Taihoku on Formosa is set to a 5 hex range in case he goes for islands near Ishigaki. Also, a small strike force is set to go at Okinawa, just to see what happens. Likely sacrificial, but if he goes between them all each could be an important part of a decent strike. Time to try something anyway.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 5, 45
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Ground combat at 71,56 (near Lang Son)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 209456 troops, 4243 guns, 4165 vehicles, Assault Value = 8589

Defending force 115468 troops, 1113 guns, 577 vehicles, Assault Value = 3797

Japanese ground losses:
179 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
198 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 6, 45
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ASW attack near Ishigaki at 90,67

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 28
SC Ch 32
SC Ch 30

Allied Ships
SS Mingo, hits 3

SS Mingo is sighted by escort

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Ground combat at 71,56 (near Lang Son)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 209433 troops, 4242 guns, 4165 vehicles, Assault Value = 8589

Defending force 115172 troops, 1112 guns, 577 vehicles, Assault Value = 3769

Japanese ground losses:
245 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 7, 45
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Sub attack near Ishigaki at 92,70

Japanese Ships
DD Sugi
DD Kiri
DD Kaede
DD Kaya

Allied Ships
SS Bashaw

SS Bashaw launches 4 torpedoes at DD Sugi
DD Kaede fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kaya fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Ishigaki at 92,70

Japanese Ships
DD Kaya
DD Kiri
DD Kaede

Allied Ships
SS Blackfish, hits 2

SS Blackfish is located by DD Kaya
Blackfish diving deep ....
DD Kaede attacking submerged sub ....
Massive explosion on SS Blackfish
DD Kaede fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Ishigaki at 92,70

Japanese Ships
DD Kaya
DD Kiri
DD Kaede

Allied Ships
SS Sirdar, hits 9

SS Sirdar launches 2 torpedoes at DD Kaya
DD Kaede fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kaya fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kaya fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Ishigaki at 90,67

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 32
SC Ch 29
SC Ch 28
SC Ch 30

Allied Ships
SS Mingo

Captain of SS Mingo elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
Mingo diving deep ....
SC Ch 32 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC Ch 30 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 30 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Naha at 93,70

Japanese Ships
DD Kaede
DD Kiri

Allied Ships
SS Hake, hits 6

SS Hake launches 2 torpedoes at DD Kaede
DD Kaede fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kaede fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Naha at 93,70

Japanese Ships
DD Kaede
DD Sugi

Allied Ships
SS Finback, hits 1

SS Finback launches 2 torpedoes at DD Kaede
DD Sugi attacking submerged sub ....
DD Sugi fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Ground combat at 71,56 (near Lang Son)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 209466 troops, 4242 guns, 4165 vehicles, Assault Value = 8586

Defending force 115095 troops, 1111 guns, 577 vehicles, Assault Value = 3768

Japanese ground losses:
510 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
139 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 8, 45
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Sub attack near Miyako-jima at 92,66

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 28
SC Ch 30
SC Ch 29
SC Ch 32

Allied Ships
SS Stoic

SS Stoic launches 2 torpedoes at SC Ch 28
Stoic diving deep ....
SC Ch 32 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 32 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Kume-jima at 93,65

Japanese Ships
E No.18

Allied Ships
SS Grayback, hits 8

SS Grayback is sighted by escort
E No.18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Kume-jima at 93,65

Japanese Ships
E No.18

Allied Ships
SS Angler, hits 8, heavy damage

SS Angler is located by E No.18
E No.18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.18 attacking submerged sub ....
E No.18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Kume-jima at 93,65

Japanese Ships
E Kusagaki
E No.18

Allied Ships
SS Jallao

SS Jallao is located by E Kusagaki
Jallao diving deep ....
E No.18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Kume-jima at 93,65

Japanese Ships
E No.12
E No.18

Allied Ships
SS Pipefish

SS Pipefish launches 2 torpedoes at E No.12
Pipefish diving deep ....
E No.18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Kume-jima at 93,65

Japanese Ships
E Kusagaki
E No.18

Allied Ships
SS Taurus, hits 1

SS Taurus is located by E Kusagaki
E No.18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.18 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Night Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 28
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 11

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 13
B-29-25 Superfort x 28

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
5 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
9 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
4 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
8 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
4 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
5 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet

CAP engaged:
352 Ku S-3 with J1N1-S Irving (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 3 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
28th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes

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Night Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 28
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 11

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 8
B-29-25 Superfort x 33

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
8 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
6 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
5 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
6 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
5 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet

CAP engaged:
352 Ku S-3 with J1N1-S Irving (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
25 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes Still no intercept.
28th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes

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Night Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 28
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 11

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6
B-29-25 Superfort x 7

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet

CAP engaged:
352 Ku S-3 with J1N1-S Irving (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 3 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
28th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes

Many more fragments after this!
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ASW attack near Kume-jima at 93,65

Japanese Ships
E No.18
E No.12

Allied Ships
SS Jack, hits 14

SS Jack is located by E No.18
E No.12 attacking submerged sub ....
E No.12 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.12 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Kume-jima at 93,64

Japanese Ships
E Kusagaki
E No.12

Allied Ships
SS Seawolf, hits 8, heavy damage

SS Seawolf launches 2 torpedoes at E Kusagaki
Seawolf diving deep ....
E No.12 attacking submerged sub ....
E No.12 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Naha at 93,66

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 28
SC Ch 30
SC Ch 29
SC Ch 32

Allied Ships
SS Clyde, hits 5

SS Clyde is located by SC Ch 28
Clyde diving deep ....
SC Ch 32 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC Ch 32 attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Naha at 94,66

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 30
SC Ch 29

Allied Ships
SS KXVIII

Captain of SS KXVIII elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
SC Ch 29 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Amami Oshima at 98,65

Japanese Ships
DD Kiri
DD Sugi

Allied Ships
SS Piranha, hits 1

SS Piranha launches 2 torpedoes at DD Kiri
DD Sugi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Sugi attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Kuroshima at 98,61

Japanese Ships
PB Nagata Maru
xAK Juko Maru
xAK Hokusho Maru

Allied Ships
SS Thornback

SS Thornback launches 2 torpedoes at PB Nagata Maru
Thornback diving deep ....
PB Nagata Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Nagata Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Nagata Maru cannot reach attack position over SS Thornback
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ishigaki at 92,70

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2a Jill x 22

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 92
Corsair IV x 15
Seafire L.III x 5
F4U-1A Corsair x 61
F4U-1D Corsair x 436

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2a Jill: 16 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Ground combat at 71,56 (near Lang Son)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 209433 troops, 4241 guns, 4165 vehicles, Assault Value = 8582

Defending force 114914 troops, 1110 guns, 577 vehicles, Assault Value = 3753

Japanese ground losses:
630 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
90 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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Reinforcements:

13th Air Division arrives at Shanghai
57th Ind.Mixed Brigade arrives at Tokyo
57th JAAF AF Bn arrives at Shanghai
60th JAAF AF Bn arrives at Shanghai
104th JAAF AF Bn arrives at Shanghai
129th JAAF AF Bn arrives at Shanghai
184th JAAF AF Bn arrives at Shanghai
185th JAAF AF Bn arrives at Shanghai
219th JAAF AF Bn arrives at Shanghai
220th JAAF AF Bn arrives at Shanghai
95th Ind.Mixed Brigade arrives at Hirosaki/Aomori
34th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion arrives at Sendai
34th Ind. AA Battalion arrives at Yamagata
48th Ind. AA Battalion arrives at Iwaki
21st RF Gun Battalion arrives at Sendai
20th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion arrives at Tokyo
31st Med. Field Artillery Battalion arrives at Asahikawa
1021 Ku U-1 arrives at Tokyo
E No.156 arrives at Tokyo
ML G-485 arrives at Sapporo
3rd Rocket Gun Battalion arrives at Tokyo
41st JNAF AF Unit arrives at Tokyo
3rd JAAF AF Coy arrives at Tokyo
1001 Ku U-1 arrives at Kagoshima
43rd Army arrives at Peiping

Losses:



Ships Sunk:

DMS Wasmuth is reported to have been sunk near Saigon on Jan 14, 1945
PT-190 is reported to have been sunk near Bataan on Jan 21, 1945
xAK Wallace Farrington is reported to have been sunk near Cotabato on Sep 09, 1944
Previous report of sinking of DD Mullany incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/28/2013 11:41:10 AM   
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HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!

For the first time in a while I'll not be eating turkey and pumpkin pie. No family trip this year and the lady has simply another normal work day here in London. Luckily I've got the usual 4 day weekend. I might have to make my own pumpkin pie at least!

HOME ISLANDS: Okinawa is invaded!!! Not unexpected. On the 9th a decent strike goes for the Allied CVs but can't break through. About 250 planes lost for no gains. So, the Allies pound in with 5000 AV and 9+ divisions to Naha. I'm glad I didn't fortify more here. It's simply untenable against this kind of invasion. The 400 AV of a rebuilding division and a brigade will fall quickly. I had another brigade to combine with this and another few brigades which would have brought total AV to 1.2k within a few weeks, but it's better they're elsewhere now as this is way too much to consider holding against.

I may now at least be able to battle close to home where there are more big bases and where the Allies will have to think about a surface threat again. It's a big turn. Do I risk sending out the KB? Try for an 8 hex strike?

SUBS: hitting a lot of subs, but there must be more than fifty in the North China Sea now. They've shot a lot of misses at my ASW ships, and we've miraculously avoided all hits. Small successes.

DEI: Since the Allied CVs look to be occupied doing bigger and better things, I'll start a succession of supply and oil transports through the South China Sea.

STRAT BOMBING: More mines!! Yikes! The sweepers move in and promptly 3 x AMc are lost to hits while sweeping. About 200 mines are swept.

CHINA: The blockade holds!!! The Allies get a 1:2 and take almost double the casualties of the IJA troops. He'll make them up, and ours will take longer, but this at least will make him take more time, maybe pile more on top. Ahhhhhhh. Something positive!
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ASW attack near Kume-jima at 93,62

Japanese Ships
E Nomi
E Chiburi

Allied Ships
SS Puffer, hits 4

SS Puffer is located by E Nomi
E Chiburi attacking submerged sub ....
E Chiburi fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Chiburi fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Night Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 26
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 11

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 26
B-29-25 Superfort x 48

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
7 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
7 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
5 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
4 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
8 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
6 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
6 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
5 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
7 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
6 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet

CAP engaged:
352 Ku S-3 with J1N1-S Irving (0 airborne, 17 on standby, 3 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
28th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes



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Night Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 26
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 11

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 3
B-29-25 Superfort x 16

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
7 x B-29-25 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet
3 x B-29-1 Superfort laying Mk 13 Mine from 9000 feet

CAP engaged:
352 Ku S-3 with J1N1-S Irving (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
23 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
28th Sentai with Ki-46-III KAI Dinah (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes

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Sub attack near Nago at 93,61

Japanese Ships
E No.43
E No.21
E No.51

Allied Ships
SS Macabi, hits 11, heavy damage

Captain of SS Macabi elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
Macabi diving deep ....
E No.51 attacking submerged sub ....
E No.43 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.51 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Naha at 95,66

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2a Jill x 29
Ki-84r Frank x 12
Ki-100-I Tony x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2a Jill: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
B6N2a Jill: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
DD Picking
DD Stembel
DD Stockham, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Rooks

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x B6N2a Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

Banzai! - Hori F. in a B6N2a Jill is willing to die for the Emperor
Banzai! - Minobe K. in a B6N2a Jill is willing to die for the Emperor

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Naha at 95,69

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 44
D4Y4 Judy x 67
N1K2-J George x 35
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 45
Ki-84r Frank x 22
Ki-100-I Tony x 24

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 113
Corsair IV x 63
Hellcat I x 10
Seafire IIC x 18
Seafire L.III x 5
F4U-1A Corsair x 66
F4U-1D Corsair x 492
F6F-3 Hellcat x 175
F6F-5 Hellcat x 251

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 10 destroyed
D4Y4 Judy: 33 destroyed
D4Y4 Judy: 2 destroyed by flak
N1K2-J George: 7 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 12 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 7 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 10 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Corsair II: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVL Langley

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Naha at 95,66

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 17
Ki-84r Frank x 16
Ki-100-I Tony x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 6 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Picking
DD Rooks
DD Stembel

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x P1Y1 Frances flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Daito Shoto at 98,69

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 23

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 82
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 55

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 4 destroyed

Japanese Ships
xAK Hankow Maru, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
E No.186, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
E No.192, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
E No.190, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
E No.154, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Naha at 95,66

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2a Jill x 20
Ki-84r Frank x 10
Ki-100-I Tony x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2a Jill: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Stembel, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x B6N2a Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Naha at 95,66

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y1 Frances x 3
Ki-84r Frank x 5
Ki-100-I Tony x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y1 Frances: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Picking, Kamikaze hits 1, and is sunk
DD Rooks

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P1Y1 Frances flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 71,56 (near Lang Son)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 209577 troops, 4246 guns, 4167 vehicles, Assault Value = 8595

Defending force 114712 troops, 1109 guns, 577 vehicles, Assault Value = 3740

Japanese ground losses:
341 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 43 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 10, 45
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TF 5 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-12
E Daito, Mine hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

32 mines cleared

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Pre-Invasion action off Naha (95,66) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

803 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Shell hits 3
BB Maryland
CL Phoenix, Shell hits 2
CL St. Louis
DD Perkins, Shell hits 1
DD O'Brien
DD Hammann, Shell hits 1
DD Satterlee
AKA Oberon, Shell hits 1, on fire
AKA Torrence
APA President Polk
DD Downes

Japanese ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
274 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

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TF 17 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc America Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
AMc Banshu Maru #51, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

62 mines cleared


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TF 345 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Rokko Maru
AMc Kyo Maru #5

62 mines cleared


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TF 83 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Wa 19
AMc Wa 14, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

52 mines cleared

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Morning Air attack on Naha , at 95,66

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-100-I Tony x 21

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 27
F4U-1D Corsair x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed
A6M5b Zero: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Naha (95,66)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9272 troops, 195 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 370

Defending force 140122 troops, 2287 guns, 3404 vehicles, Assault Value = 4999

Japanese ground losses:
435 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 44 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
15th Ind.Mixed Regiment
108th/B Division
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
108th/A Division
108th/C Division
100th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
27th Ind. AA Battalion
91st Field AA Battalion
19th JAAF Base Force
26th RF Gun Battalion
100th Field AA Battalion
19th RF Gun Battalion
80th Field AA Battalion
81st Field AA Battalion
5th Medium Mortar Battalion
44th IMB Artillery Battalion
32nd Army
1st Machine Cannon AA Battalion
79th Field AA Battalion
42nd Air Defense AA Battalion
Nansei Shoto JNAF Base Force
46th Air Defense AA Battalion
26th Air Flotilla
Okinawa Naval Base Force
51st JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
38th Infantry Div /8
3rd NZ Armoured Sqn
1st Cavalry (Spec) Cavalry Division
1st Marine Division
XIV Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
716th Tank Battalion
77th Infantry Division
37th Infantry Div /9
192nd Tank Battalion
I Corps Cmbt Engr Rgt /5
93rd Infantry Div /10
31st Infantry Division
1st USMC Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
32nd Infantry Div /9
CenPac Amphib Tank Brigade
4th Marine Div /8
24th Infantry Div /8
225th Field Artillery Battalion
Southwest Pacific
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
XI US Corps /1
III US Amphib Corps
Sixth US Army
3rd USMC Air Wing Base Force
I US Corps
2nd RAA Jungle Regiment
205th Field Artillery Battalion
9th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
XI Corps Artillery
XIV US Corps
16th NZ AA Bde /6

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Ground combat at 71,56 (near Lang Son)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 224287 troops, 4249 guns, 5020 vehicles, Assault Value = 8601

Defending force 114447 troops, 1108 guns, 577 vehicles, Assault Value = 3711

Allied adjusted assault: 4152

Japanese adjusted defense: 8917

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
6330 casualties reported
Squads: 47 destroyed, 505 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 242 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 83 disabled
Guns lost 262 (50 destroyed, 212 disabled)
Vehicles lost 69 (13 destroyed, 56 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
13433 casualties reported
Squads: 91 destroyed, 1132 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 488 disabled
Engineers: 34 destroyed, 541 disabled
Guns lost 191 (24 destroyed, 167 disabled)
Vehicles lost 455 (35 destroyed, 420 disabled)
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Reinforcements:

****ei-tai arrives at Tokyo
Sakura-tai arrives at Tokyo
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment arrives at Tokyo

Losses:

Loss of E No.154 on Mar 09, 1945 is admitted
Loss of E No.186 on Mar 09, 1945 is admitted
Loss of E No.190 on Mar 09, 1945 is admitted
Loss of E No.192 on Mar 09, 1945 is admitted
Loss of xAK Hankow Maru on Mar 09, 1945 is admitted

Ships Sunk:

Previous report of sinking of DD Hazelwood incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
Previous report of sinking of SS Sea Owl incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
DD Picking is reported to have been sunk near Naha on Mar 09, 1945
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The CD guns put a number of the transports in jeopardy, and got up to 20 hits on a few of the BBs. All to no avail though with the massive hammer of the invasion forces here.
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/28/2013 11:44:17 AM   
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/28/2013 12:50:20 PM   
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In my late game testing, I have always had to convert all of my little PB's into AM/AMc's. I find that the PB's are pretty useless after allied torps become real. But, once the B29 arrive with their mine laying ability, I need AM/AMc's everywhere. And a LOT of them as you can get hit with so many mines so fast.


Japan's short on good minesweeping assets to start with, there are so few that do 18-19knts (and none of the fast minesweepers that the Americans get, IIRC), so the AM and AMc's grow more and more essential as the war progresses. Sadly, they're nearly as much "one-shot" assets as kamikazies. For what it's worth, I try to detail one to every medium and major port, and have a half-dozen or so on hand at a nearby hub to deal with mines.

Plus, at this late stage they'd be as well clearing mines by sailing into them.

That sparks a question Obvert, considered using those stocks of redundant PB's to mask a surface attack? I can only imagine the chaos that would follow if two dozen or more PB's sortied for Okinawa with a good IJN surface combat task force hidden amongst them. Even the ample Allied surface assets would be stretched dealing with ten or twelve task forces of two or three PB's, let alone how dispersed his air strikes would be. Idealy, the IJN ships would slip in while the Allied covering forces reacted after the PB's, and even at worst, the Allies would be low on ammo by the time the IJN showed up.

Imagine it as Operation Ten-Go writ large, with the PB's included as ablative armour.

Unconventional, yes, but at this stage with Japan there's no point leaving them in port for a Liberator raid to wipe them all out.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/28/2013 1:35:39 PM   
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In my late game testing, I have always had to convert all of my little PB's into AM/AMc's. I find that the PB's are pretty useless after allied torps become real. But, once the B29 arrive with their mine laying ability, I need AM/AMc's everywhere. And a LOT of them as you can get hit with so many mines so fast.


Japan's short on good minesweeping assets to start with, there are so few that do 18-19knts (and none of the fast minesweepers that the Americans get, IIRC), so the AM and AMc's grow more and more essential as the war progresses. Sadly, they're nearly as much "one-shot" assets as kamikazies. For what it's worth, I try to detail one to every medium and major port, and have a half-dozen or so on hand at a nearby hub to deal with mines.

Plus, at this late stage they'd be as well clearing mines by sailing into them.

That sparks a question Obvert, considered using those stocks of redundant PB's to mask a surface attack? I can only imagine the chaos that would follow if two dozen or more PB's sortied for Okinawa with a good IJN surface combat task force hidden amongst them. Even the ample Allied surface assets would be stretched dealing with ten or twelve task forces of two or three PB's, let alone how dispersed his air strikes would be. Idealy, the IJN ships would slip in while the Allied covering forces reacted after the PB's, and even at worst, the Allies would be low on ammo by the time the IJN showed up.

Imagine it as Operation Ten-Go writ large, with the PB's included as ablative armour.

Unconventional, yes, but at this stage with Japan there's no point leaving them in port for a Liberator raid to wipe them all out.


Nearly all of the PBs have been made into AMc and a few are ACM, more for mining than mine-tending at this point.

There are other Es that would be better heading as a shield for good combat TFs, but Okinawa is really out in the middle of a lot of sea. From anywhere it's a flank run and the Allies have a zillion ships in the area.

Due to the mines at Shanghai there was no way to react to this move with the IJN without a huge risk of ending up damaged, slow moving, ten sitting ducks for a later air strike form the Allied CVs. I had to let the sweepers pick up for a few days before trying to get out of the hex. The trouble is ALL bases are in range of the B-29, so none is safe from this kind of massed mining. I only hope the DL on the mine-field s high enough to allow a break out tomorrow.



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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/28/2013 2:10:10 PM   
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In my late game testing, I have always had to convert all of my little PB's into AM/AMc's. I find that the PB's are pretty useless after allied torps become real. But, once the B29 arrive with their mine laying ability, I need AM/AMc's everywhere. And a LOT of them as you can get hit with so many mines so fast.


Japan's short on good minesweeping assets to start with, there are so few that do 18-19knts (and none of the fast minesweepers that the Americans get, IIRC), so the AM and AMc's grow more and more essential as the war progresses. Sadly, they're nearly as much "one-shot" assets as kamikazies. For what it's worth, I try to detail one to every medium and major port, and have a half-dozen or so on hand at a nearby hub to deal with mines.

Plus, at this late stage they'd be as well clearing mines by sailing into them.

That sparks a question Obvert, considered using those stocks of redundant PB's to mask a surface attack? I can only imagine the chaos that would follow if two dozen or more PB's sortied for Okinawa with a good IJN surface combat task force hidden amongst them. Even the ample Allied surface assets would be stretched dealing with ten or twelve task forces of two or three PB's, let alone how dispersed his air strikes would be. Idealy, the IJN ships would slip in while the Allied covering forces reacted after the PB's, and even at worst, the Allies would be low on ammo by the time the IJN showed up.

Imagine it as Operation Ten-Go writ large, with the PB's included as ablative armour.

Unconventional, yes, but at this stage with Japan there's no point leaving them in port for a Liberator raid to wipe them all out.


Nearly all of the PBs have been made into AMc and a few are ACM, more for mining than mine-tending at this point.

There are other Es that would be better heading as a shield for good combat TFs, but Okinawa is really out in the middle of a lot of sea. From anywhere it's a flank run and the Allies have a zillion ships in the area.

Due to the mines at Shanghai there was no way to react to this move with the IJN without a huge risk of ending up damaged, slow moving, ten sitting ducks for a later air strike form the Allied CVs. I had to let the sweepers pick up for a few days before trying to get out of the hex. The trouble is ALL bases are in range of the B-29, so none is safe from this kind of massed mining. I only hope the DL on the mine-field s high enough to allow a break out tomorrow.



Keep the idea in mind, though, as the Allies get closer to the Home Islands and their ability to manuver is reduced. I'm sure you can see the carnage that such a move would cause to the Allied fleet as the warships start to react left, right and center, and imagine the chaos that would result if ships broke through to the amphib forces and caused them to abort the landing.

E's, PB's, AM, AMc's, whatever. What ships you'd be using is immaterial, everything the IJN has is outdated. Hell, I'd even advocate xAK's if I thought the merchant crews and captains would go along with sailing to certain doom.

Speaking of xAK's, have you converted any of them to PB's or other auxiluaries? Even a notional military value is better than none at all.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/28/2013 2:44:07 PM   
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In my late game testing, I have always had to convert all of my little PB's into AM/AMc's. I find that the PB's are pretty useless after allied torps become real. But, once the B29 arrive with their mine laying ability, I need AM/AMc's everywhere. And a LOT of them as you can get hit with so many mines so fast.


Japan's short on good minesweeping assets to start with, there are so few that do 18-19knts (and none of the fast minesweepers that the Americans get, IIRC), so the AM and AMc's grow more and more essential as the war progresses. Sadly, they're nearly as much "one-shot" assets as kamikazies. For what it's worth, I try to detail one to every medium and major port, and have a half-dozen or so on hand at a nearby hub to deal with mines.

Plus, at this late stage they'd be as well clearing mines by sailing into them.

That sparks a question Obvert, considered using those stocks of redundant PB's to mask a surface attack? I can only imagine the chaos that would follow if two dozen or more PB's sortied for Okinawa with a good IJN surface combat task force hidden amongst them. Even the ample Allied surface assets would be stretched dealing with ten or twelve task forces of two or three PB's, let alone how dispersed his air strikes would be. Idealy, the IJN ships would slip in while the Allied covering forces reacted after the PB's, and even at worst, the Allies would be low on ammo by the time the IJN showed up.

Imagine it as Operation Ten-Go writ large, with the PB's included as ablative armour.

Unconventional, yes, but at this stage with Japan there's no point leaving them in port for a Liberator raid to wipe them all out.


Nearly all of the PBs have been made into AMc and a few are ACM, more for mining than mine-tending at this point.

There are other Es that would be better heading as a shield for good combat TFs, but Okinawa is really out in the middle of a lot of sea. From anywhere it's a flank run and the Allies have a zillion ships in the area.

Due to the mines at Shanghai there was no way to react to this move with the IJN without a huge risk of ending up damaged, slow moving, ten sitting ducks for a later air strike form the Allied CVs. I had to let the sweepers pick up for a few days before trying to get out of the hex. The trouble is ALL bases are in range of the B-29, so none is safe from this kind of massed mining. I only hope the DL on the mine-field s high enough to allow a break out tomorrow.



Keep the idea in mind, though, as the Allies get closer to the Home Islands and their ability to manuver is reduced. I'm sure you can see the carnage that such a move would cause to the Allied fleet as the warships start to react left, right and center, and imagine the chaos that would result if ships broke through to the amphib forces and caused them to abort the landing.

E's, PB's, AM, AMc's, whatever. What ships you'd be using is immaterial, everything the IJN has is outdated. Hell, I'd even advocate xAK's if I thought the merchant crews and captains would go along with sailing to certain doom.

Speaking of xAK's, have you converted any of them to PB's or other auxiluaries? Even a notional military value is better than none at all.



All of the Ansyu class that can be converted are converted to PBs.

Over the course of the game various things like what you're saying have happened. The Allies in this one tend to use massive TFs, and in the Marianas several small SAGs got into the middle of things causing multiple collisions each time they engaged an amphib TF, and they even got in to hit some CVEs. It's entirely possible to do what you're advocating, but the closer to the HI the better.

As for carnage, the real damage would be caused by the Allied DDs. At this stage Allied landings are a one day affair. They can dodge and weave and hide intentions to the point that it really doesn't matter what I send to the area, I won't know where the landing will be until the day of, and I won't be able to really get into those ships unless he gets lazy. For this one there were several cruiser TFs and probably 6-7 DD TFs alone, as well as probably a bunch of ASW TFs, the big bombardment groups of fast BBs and the CVs. All of these are shielded by the wall of subs to the North.

None of this means I'm sitting on my a**, mind you. The fleet will move from Shanghai, and it will try to get into the fray. If no mines are hit by anything important, then it could get interesting.






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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/28/2013 5:27:56 PM   
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None of this means I'm sitting on my a**, mind you. The fleet will move from Shanghai, and it will try to get into the fray. If no mines are hit by anything important, then it could get interesting.


That's the spirit! No sense is giving the Allies some free ships when the end comes at last, let them go down fighting. I'm sure it's hard sacraficing the assets that you've so carefully husbanded, but at this point, they're worthless, and you might as well chance your luck for an American CV or two.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/28/2013 6:07:15 PM   
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None of this means I'm sitting on my a**, mind you. The fleet will move from Shanghai, and it will try to get into the fray. If no mines hit anything important, then it could get interesting.


That's the spirit! No sense is giving the Allies some free ships when the end comes at last, let them go down fighting. I'm sure it's hard sacraficing the assets that you've so carefully husbanded, but at this point, they're worthless, and you might as well chance your luck for an American CV or two.


The KB, as it is, is still a potent force if used carefully and aggressively. A hard balance to achieve! It's shown i nthe PI about 6 months ago that even against double the numbers it could strike and get away if the 8 hex range worked out.

This time the LBA could be a big factor, which is what I was waiting all of this time for. If he guesses my movements and comes West we could be crushed, but that will also open up 600+ strike planes from Taihoku. A lot of decent fighters will hover over the KB if all goes to plan, and while that won't keep everything away, it's a better time than I've seen and definitely better than waiting for Naha to have 500 P-51s.

All could fizzle into nothing if everything stays out of range, too. We'll see. First thing though is getting out of mineville and dodging revenge-mined subs!

I know a lot of you are reading both sides, so in the interest of seeing what happens, try not to give even seemingly innocuous advice in Jocke's AAR right now, please. I'd like one more chance at glory before the wheels come off for good! (Plus it's pretty interesting to see what would happen at this stage of the war, especially in one of the first games using he beta to get this far).

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/28/2013 7:11:51 PM   
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QUICK UPDATE!

SUBS: Oh, my. The whole lot of Allied subs moved toward the Formosa coastline, either in a good move by Jocke or a happy coincidence for the Allies. Four different CV/CVE were attacked with only the Unryu taking a hit. The Nagato also took two. Both are not too bad off considering.

HOME ISLANDS: Naha falls 25:1. Another 1k AV would still not have done much here with this kind of force. maybe a week. So this will open a new phase of the game. Defense of the Home Islands proper.

KB: The KB sprint achieved very little and now there is some BIG DANGER tomorrow. We're smack dab on top of about 25 known subs and possibly more unknown. That after sinking or severely damaging at least five during the turn.

All Allied ships move out of the way other than two injured DDs that are sunk.
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/29/2013 1:17:42 AM   
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SUBS: The number of subs out here is staggering. I got lucky with just two ships hit, and that both are still afloat. Tomorrow will be interesting. Not sure how to get out of this area without more damage, but a lot of ASW assets are here, so it's possible after the 5-6 subs that are sunk yesterday and the high DL on the rest could help the escape. I might try some thing a bit daring!

DEI: A bunch of Allied DBs finally got in range of Palembang. Lots of little TKs sunk.

RECON: More looking at Hokkaido.

CHINA: Most of the mines are likely cleaned up now after nearly 300 were cleared overnight for the loss of two E and one more AMc.

I may move the troops near Nanning back now that they've inflicted some pain on the Allies. They are showing a retreat of at least some troops, so it makes sense to head back to Nanning.

HOME ISLANDS: Reorganized some things and Im sending more air support to the West, where I'll need lots soon.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR February 7, 45
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TF 345 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Rokko Maru
AMc Kyo Maru #5, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
AMc Wa 19

120 mines cleared

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TF 345 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Rokko Maru
AMc Wa 19

72 mines cleared

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TF 17 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-12
E W-34, Mine hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
E W-19
E W-27, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

93 mines cleared

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 11, 45 (SUB CONTACTS)
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ASW attack near Taihoku at 90,62

Japanese Ships
E Chiburi

Allied Ships
SS Torbay, hits 10

SS Torbay is sighted by escort
Torbay diving deep ....
E Chiburi attacking submerged sub ....
E Chiburi is out of ASW ammo
E Chiburi fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Iriomote at 89,64

Japanese Ships
CV Hiyo
CS Chiyoda
DD Ariake
DD Yugure
DD Oshio
DD Kashi
DD Hinoki
DD Take
DD Matsu

Allied Ships
SS Bumper

SS Bumper launches 6 torpedoes at CV Hiyo
Bumper diving deep ....
DD Kashi attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hinoki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Take fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Kashi fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hinoki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hinoki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Iriomote at 89,64

Japanese Ships
CV Hiyo
CS Chiyoda
DD Ariake
DD Yugure
DD Oshio
DD Kashi
DD Hinoki
DD Take
DD Matsu

Allied Ships
SS Drum, hits 2

SS Drum launches 6 torpedoes at CV Hiyo
DD Kashi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hinoki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Take fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hinoki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Iriomote at 89,64

Japanese Ships
CVE Kaiyo
CS Chitose
CS Nisshin
DD Akishimo
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
SS Loggerhead, hits 1

SS Loggerhead launches 4 torpedoes at CVE Kaiyo
Loggerhead diving deep ....
DD Minazuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Satsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Satsuki attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Taihoku at 89,63

Japanese Ships
E No.144, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
E No.130

Allied Ships
SS Toro, hits 13, heavy damage

SS Toro launches 2 torpedoes at E No.144
Toro diving deep ....
E No.130 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.130 fails to find sub, continues to search...
E No.130 attacking submerged sub ....
Underwater explosion, debris and oil appear on surface!
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Iriomote at 90,64

Japanese Ships
DD Tachikaze
DD Namikaze

Allied Ships
SS Bashaw, hits 1

SS Bashaw launches 2 torpedoes at DD Tachikaze
DD Namikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Namikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Namikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Iriomote at 90,64

Japanese Ships
DD Namikaze

Allied Ships
SS Taurus

SS Taurus launches 2 torpedoes at DD Namikaze
Taurus diving deep ....
DD Namikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Namikaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Namikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Taihoku at 89,63

Japanese Ships
CV Amagi
BB Kongo
CLAA Natori
DD Shimozuki
DD Hamanami
DD Okinami
DD Makinami
DD Akigumo

Allied Ships
SS Seahorse

SS Seahorse launches 6 torpedoes at CV Amagi
Seahorse diving deep ....
DD Hamanami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Okinami attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akigumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Okinami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Akigumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Taihoku at 89,63

Japanese Ships
CV Unryu, Torpedo hits 1 Thankfully Unryu can do 30 knots and has only 18 system and 13 float damage.
BB Kongo
CLAA Natori
DD Shimozuki
DD Hamanami
DD Okinami
DD Makinami
DD Akigumo

Allied Ships
SS Razorback, hits 3

SS Razorback launches 4 torpedoes at CV Unryu
Razorback diving deep ....
DD Hamanami attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hamanami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Okinami attacking submerged sub ....
DD Okinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Taihoku at 89,63

Japanese Ships
E Nomi

Allied Ships
SS Seahorse, hits 13, heavy damage

SS Seahorse is sighted by escort
E Nomi fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Nomi attacking submerged sub ....
E Nomi fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Taihoku at 89,63

Japanese Ships
E Nomi
E Miyake
E Chiburi

Allied Ships
SS Trutta, hits 30, and is sunk

SS Trutta launches 4 torpedoes at E Nomi
E Nomi attacking submerged sub ....
SS Trutta forced to surface!
E Chiburi firing on surfaced sub ....
E Chiburi firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

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ASW attack near Iriomote at 89,64

Japanese Ships
CS Chitose
CS Nisshin
DD Akishimo
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
SS Pargo, hits 3

SS Pargo is sighted by escort
DD Minazuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Satsuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Minazuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Satsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Iriomote at 89,64

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Torpedo hits 2 The ship can make 15 knots and has 20 system and 43 float damage. Not too bad, for now, but likely out of the war for good.
BB Mutsu
DD Kiyoshimo
DD Asashimo

Allied Ships
SS Sealion II, hits 2, heavy damage

SS Sealion II launches 6 torpedoes at BB Nagato
Sealion II diving deep ....
DD Asashimo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asashimo attacking submerged sub ....
DD Asashimo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Iriomote at 89,64

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
CLAA Tenryu
CLAA Yura
DD Susuzuki
DD Haruzuki
DD Yoizuki
DD Hanazuki

Allied Ships
SS Sea Devil, hits 4, heavy damage

SS Sea Devil is sighted by escort
DD Haruzuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hanazuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hanazuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Iriomote at 90,64

Japanese Ships
E Chidori

Allied Ships
SS Trenchant, hits 8

SS Trenchant is located by E Chidori
E Chidori fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Chidori attacking submerged sub ....
E Chidori fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Chidori attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Iriomote at 89,64

Japanese Ships
DD Susuzuki
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
CLAA Tenryu
CLAA Yura
DD Akizuki
DD Haruzuki
DD Yoizuki

Allied Ships
SS Trident, hits 11, heavy damage

SS Trident launches 4 torpedoes at DD Susuzuki
Trident diving deep ....
DD Haruzuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yoizuki attacking submerged sub ....
Underwater explosion, debris and oil appear on surface!
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Iriomote at 88,65

Japanese Ships
DD Kisaragi
CS Chitose
CS Nisshin
DD Akishimo
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki

Allied Ships
SS Drum, hits 3

SS Drum launches 4 torpedoes at DD Kisaragi
DD Minazuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Satsuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Satsuki is out of ASW ammo
DD Minazuki fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Satsuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Satsuki is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Iriomote at 88,65

Japanese Ships
CS Chiyoda
DD Ariake
DD Oshio
DD Kashi
DD Hinoki
DD Take
DD Matsu

Allied Ships
SS Drum

SS Drum is sighted by escort
Drum diving deep ....
DD Kashi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hinoki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Take fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Matsu fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 11, 45 (air and ground)
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 25

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AMc Shinko Maru #5, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMc Nichiro Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMc Nishho Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AMc Nichiro Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AMc Nishho Maru

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Merak at 48,97

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 22

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
ACM Kaimyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring ACM Kaimyo Maru

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Naha at 94,69

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 53 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 21
B7A2 Grace x 9

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
DD Stembel, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Stockham, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B7A2 Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Ishigaki at 91,71

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 67
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 55

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Akikaze
DD Okikaze
DD Hokaze, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Sawakaze, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
6 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
6 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
15 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Sawakaze
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Hokaze

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 53
TBM-3 Avenger x 18

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
TK Arima Maru #4, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
PB Tamo Maru #6, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
TK Kanzaki Maru
TK Yamazuru Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
TK Chinkai Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
TK Hachijin Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Terukawa Maru, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
TK Fukko Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Mayasan Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Taijima Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Kyo Maru #7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
TK Fukoku Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Yachiyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
TK Sainan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PB Hagoromo Maru, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on 104th Division, at 67,44 , near Paoshan

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 26
B-17E Fortress x 4
B-24D Liberator x 3
B-24D1 Liberator x 10
B-24J Liberator x 14

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
203 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Naha (95,66)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 122885 troops, 2122 guns, 3063 vehicles, Assault Value = 5078

Defending force 20942 troops, 584 guns, 215 vehicles, Assault Value = 331

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 5460

Japanese adjusted defense: 213

Allied assault odds: 25 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied forces CAPTURE Naha !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 5 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 8 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 14 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 4 destroyed
B6N2a Jill: 3 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4571 casualties reported
Squads: 151 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 462 destroyed, 286 disabled
Engineers: 127 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 281 (165 destroyed, 116 disabled)
Vehicles lost 135 (129 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Units retreated 20

Allied ground losses:
1080 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 87 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 57 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 40 (2 destroyed, 38 disabled)
Vehicles lost 75 (16 destroyed, 59 disabled)

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Ground combat at 71,56 (near Lang Son)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10572 troops, 677 guns, 769 vehicles, Assault Value = 6474

Defending force 108208 troops, 1082 guns, 571 vehicles, Assault Value = 3165

Japanese ground losses:
251 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
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Reinforcements:

26th Fld AA Machinecannon Company arrives at Tokyo
21st Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion arrives at Tokyo
E No.71 arrives at Tokyo

Losses:

Loss of E No.144 on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AMc Wa 6 on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AMc Wa 20 on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of E No.144 on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AMc Wa 6 on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AMc Wa 20 on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of PB Hagoromo Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of PB Tamo Maru #6 on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of PB Tamo Maru #7 on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of PB Toshi Maru #8 on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of PB Yachiyo Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AMc Shinko Maru #5 on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of PB Kyo Maru #7 on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Arima Maru #4 on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Terukawa Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Yamazuru Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of ACM Kaimyo Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Taijima Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Fukko Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Fukoku Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Kanzaki Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Sainan Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Hachijin Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Mayasan Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Chinkai Maru on Mar 11, 1945 is admitted

Ships Sunk:

SS Trutta is reported to have been sunk near Taihoku on Mar 11, 1945
SS Toro is reported to have been sunk near Taihoku on Mar 11, 1945
SS Trident is reported to have been sunk near Iriomote on Mar 11, 1945
DD Stembel is reported to have been sunk near Naha on Mar 11, 1945
DD Stockham is reported to have been sunk near Naha on Mar 11, 1945
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Here is the shot of how far away all of the Allied ships got after a one day drop-off at Naha.

One other thing is that we had a sync bug issue. Not sure if it's connected, but a large amount of fighters were lost in A to A, and unless I'm really more tired than I think I can't find any A to A combat in the turn at all. I don't remember any either. Hmmm.
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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/29/2013 1:28:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi obvert - since I'm a new subscriber to this AAR, and I just noticed your CS's are not converted, could you let me know your reasoning for that? I always assumed most folks bumped all four CS's to CVLs, so I'm curious if that was a conscious decision or if you just didn't get around to the conversions.


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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/29/2013 4:51:51 AM   
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One other thing is that we had a sync bug issue. Not sure if it's connected, but a large amount of fighters were lost in A to A, and unless I'm really more tired than I think I can't find any A to A combat in the turn at all. I don't remember any either. Hmmm.


First thing to note. Japanese side do not experiencing sync bugs. It is only allied thing.
What You see in replay is always true.

As for a2a loses. I see two explanation for that.

First - most probable in Your case. When Naha fall and planes on ground where destroyed they where counted as a2a loses. I see that few times in my game. In such situations loses are cont as ground, sometimes as op and sometimes as a2a

Second - Leaky CAP/LCAP meet enemy CAP and combat was fight but in such situations game is not showing combat animations. Similar to Transport planes interception phase.





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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/29/2013 10:16:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg

Hi obvert - since I'm a new subscriber to this AAR, and I just noticed your CS's are not converted, could you let me know your reasoning for that? I always assumed most folks bumped all four CS's to CVLs, so I'm curious if that was a conscious decision or if you just didn't get around to the conversions.



Hey. I like the versatility of keeping these as CS for a few reasons. I did convert Mizuho as it was too slow to keep up anyway and the speed is up to 24 knots after, making it useful as a CVL.

1. The conversions happen over such a long time and it's usually right in the middle of 42-43 when you're having the most defining CV battles> I like that extra search and ASW there when it can have the most effect. It can extend the search without over-using the DB/TB groups for this. I usually do use the DB/TB on 10% search, but the FP do night search and lower search bands to really see more effectively what is out there.

2. I like some to re-size float plane groups up and down. I made a lot of them bigger early, and later I've either disbanded or made them smaller again.

3. They can carry CAP with Rufe's and then Rex's, which I usually put low to hit TB if they are using FF. This can help in earlier CV battles.

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 11/29/2013 10:18:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: koniu

quote:

One other thing is that we had a sync bug issue. Not sure if it's connected, but a large amount of fighters were lost in A to A, and unless I'm really more tired than I think I can't find any A to A combat in the turn at all. I don't remember any either. Hmmm.


First thing to note. Japanese side do not experiencing sync bugs. It is only allied thing.
What You see in replay is always true.

As for a2a loses. I see two explanation for that.

First - most probable in Your case. When Naha fall and planes on ground where destroyed they where counted as a2a loses. I see that few times in my game. In such situations loses are cont as ground, sometimes as op and sometimes as a2a

Second - Leaky CAP/LCAP meet enemy CAP and combat was fight but in such situations game is not showing combat animations. Similar to Transport planes interception phase.



Naha cold explain about 50 of them but unless it's inflating numbers I don't know about the rest.

There were no areas I can see where groups are short of fighters or pilots, although it was late and I only looked quickly.

Maybe just another mystery, or maybe the sync bug affects all kinds of reports, not just the replay?

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RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 12/2/2013 12:05:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		12 - 14 March 1945
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SUBS: At least 20 subs hit over these days, and probably 5-7 more sunk. No major losses to the Allied menace, but one SC vaporized. Looks like they're all heading to the PI to replenish and prepare for the next mass movement.

DEI: Lose a few more TK that I forgot to rebase to Singers. Not much else they can do now anyway, as I can't really sneak anything past the roaming DDs in the South China Sea. Tried a few single ship TFs to no avail.

STRAT BOMBING: The B-29 mining is still taking it's toll on minesweepers. Probably 500+ mines are swept just these three days, and another 4-5 AMc and I think my last DMS are lost hitting mines. Converting all of the last PBs to AMc now.

CHINA: Troops in the blockade along the Burma road into China are ht by aerial bombing. Interesting. The Allies move 200+ 4E over here to disrupt these troops. They're taking some heavy losses as there is no AA here, but that' s actually a good thing. If there was AA burning supply it'd be tough to keep the troops fed. Now at least they're doing okay, disruption is in the 20s and they're dug in with 2-3 forts. We'll see if the Allies roll the dice and come over the river, shocking into a mountain hex. Curious to see that one.

Elsewhere the block on the road near Nanning is moving back to across the river into Nanning. It'll also take some heavy losses in movement, but then the Allies will have another river crossing proposition. If they choose to go around they'll have a long slog over yellow roads to Liuchow. That is a vulnerable base, being in the clear. If they get to that point I may just have to split forces and defend the good territory to the East and North separately. I have a feeling though he'll push North to Canton/Hong Kong. Those will require some work, hopefully.

HOME ISLANDS: Bombing Naha fields goes well. No resistance. It's nice to have big HI bases to fly from. Getting decent coordination. No sign of the Allied fleets, and mine just feints into the South China Sea for a day. Back to hugging Formosa now. I'll look for spots, but won't jump at everything. If he wants the KB he can easily take it out, but there will be losses if the Allies get close enough to Formosa. The Taiho and Hyuga rejoin the fleet. All BBs are now here minus Nagato which is nearing Nagasaki to repair sub TT damage.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 12, 45
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TF 345 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Rokko Maru
AMc Wa 19, Mine hits 2, heavy damage

72 mines cleared

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Sub attack near Kume-jima at 94,65

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 30
PB Keijo Maru

Allied Ships
SS Burrfish, hits 3

Captain of SS Burrfish elects not to launch torpedoes at this target
Burrfish bottoming out ....
PB Keijo Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Keijo Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Nago at 95,64

Japanese Ships
PB Tenzan Maru
SC CHa-75

Allied Ships
SS Piranha, hits 1

SS Piranha is located by PB Tenzan Maru
PB Tenzan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-75 fails to find sub and abandons search
PB Tenzan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Kume-jima at 94,64

Japanese Ships
SC CHa-73, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
PB Tenzan Maru

Allied Ships
SS Piranha

SS Piranha launches 2 torpedoes at SC CHa-73
PB Tenzan Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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TF 345 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Rokko Maru

36 mines cleared

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Sub attack near Iriomote at 90,64

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 28
SC Ch 32

Allied Ships
SS Finback, hits 4

SS Finback launches 2 torpedoes at SC Ch 28
SC Ch 32 attacking submerged sub ....
SC Ch 32 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Iriomote at 88,65

Japanese Ships
DD Akikaze

Allied Ships
SS Blueback, hits 4

SS Blueback launches 2 torpedoes at DD Akikaze
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Akikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Akikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Samah at 72,71, Range 16,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AK Arima Maru, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Talbot
DD Kennison
DD Crane
DD Kane, Shell hits 1

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TF 144 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Seki Maru #3
AMc Isshin Maru

52 mines cleared

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ASW attack near Iriomote at 89,64

Japanese Ships
E Shisaka
E Kozu

Allied Ships
SS Capelin, hits 26, heavy damage

SS Capelin is located by E Shisaka
Capelin diving deep ....
Debris floats to surface in area of attack!
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Nago at 95,63

Japanese Ships
DD Kaya
DD Kiri
DD Kaede

Allied Ships
SS Cabrilla, hits 3

SS Cabrilla is located by DD Kaya
DD Kaede fails to find sub, continues to search...

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Morning Air attack on Naha , at 95,66

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 108 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 36
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 23
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 80

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5A Catalina: 5 damaged

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 59

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Naha , at 95,66

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 20
Ki-84r Frank x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 8 damaged
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 104th Division, at 67,44 , near Paoshan

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 58
Liberator GR.VI x 27
B-17E Fortress x 10
B-17F Fortress x 10
B-24D Liberator x 6
B-24D1 Liberator x 11
B-24J Liberator x 73

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
552 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 71,56 (near Lang Son)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10565 troops, 676 guns, 768 vehicles, Assault Value = 5953

Defending force 108544 troops, 1075 guns, 570 vehicles, Assault Value = 3196

Japanese ground losses:
715 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 13, 45
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TF 144 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Seki Maru #3
AMc Isshin Maru

80 mines cleared


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TF 345 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Rokko Maru

36 mines cleared

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ASW attack near Taihoku at 88,64

Japanese Ships
E Shisaka
E Kozu

Allied Ships
SS Loggerhead, hits 19, heavy damage

SS Loggerhead is sighted by escort
E Shisaka fails to find sub and abandons search
E Kozu attacking submerged sub ....
E Kozu fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Submarine attack near Taihoku at 88,64

Japanese Ships
E Kuga
E Shisaka
E Kozu
E Oga

Allied Ships
SS Hardhead, hits 29, on fire, heavy damage

SS Hardhead is located by E Kuga
E Shisaka fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Shisaka fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Shisaka attacking submerged sub ....
SS Hardhead forced to surface!
E Kozu firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

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TF 144 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Seki Maru #3
AMc Isshin Maru, Mine hits 2, heavy damage

72 mines cleared


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TF 345 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Rokko Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

36 mines cleared


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TF 371 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Shanan Maru #16
AMc Senyu Maru #2

62 mines cleared

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Ground combat at 71,56 (near Lang Son)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10570 troops, 676 guns, 769 vehicles, Assault Value = 6042

Defending force 108346 troops, 1072 guns, 569 vehicles, Assault Value = 3177

Japanese ground losses:
649 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 14, 45
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TF 68 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-12

40 mines cleared

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TF 144 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Seki Maru #3

36 mines cleared

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TF 371 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Shanan Maru #16, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
AMc Senyu Maru #2

80 mines cleared

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TF 68 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-12, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

36 mines cleared

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TF 144 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Seki Maru #3, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

36 mines cleared

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TF 371 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Senyu Maru #2

36 mines cleared

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TF 371 encounters mine field at Shanghai (92,55)

Japanese Ships
AMc Senyu Maru #2, Mine hits 1, heavy damage

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Takao at 81,66

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 29

Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 7 destroyed


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Reinforcements:

ML G-486 arrives at Yokohama/Yokosuka
20th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion arrives at Tokyo
3rd Mortar Battalion arrives at Tokyo
4th JNAF Coy arrives at Tokyo
DD Shii arrives at Kobe
E No.48 arrives at Tokyo
801 Ku T-1 arrives at Hiroshima/Kure
98th Sentai arrives at Nagasaki/Sasebo
951 Ku T-10 arrives at Tokyo
14th JAAF AF Coy arrives at Tokyo
Takuma Ku T-1 arrives at Kumamoto
1006 Ku U-1/C arrives at Nagasaki/Sasebo
South. Phil. Ku U-1 arrives at Kumamoto
107th Ind.Mixed Brigade arrives at Kumamoto
109th Ind.Mixed Brigade arrives at Kumamoto
108th Ind.Mixed Brigade arrives at Saishu To
20th RF Gun Battalion arrives at Tokyo
9th RF Gun Battalion arrives at Tokyo
DD Nashi arrives at Maizuru
E Kanawa arrives at Tokyo
E No.62 arrives at Tokyo
E No.194 arrives at Tokyo

Losses:


Loss of AM Wa 101 on Oct 09, 1944 is admitted
Loss of DMS W-11 on Mar 13, 1945 is admitted
Loss of PB Ma 3 on Mar 13, 1945 is admitted
Loss of PB Kyo Maru #13 on Mar 13, 1945 is admitted
Loss of TK Nihon Maru on Mar 13, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AK Arima Maru on Mar 13, 1945 is admitted
Loss of xAK Himalaya Maru on Jun 02, 1944 is admitted
Loss of LB-117 on Nov 30, 1944 is admitted
Loss of TK Amakusa Maru on Mar 14, 1945 is admitted

Ships Sunk:

AM Velocity is reported to have been sunk near Talaud-eilanden on Sep 02, 1944
SS Capelin is reported to have been sunk near Iriomote on Mar 12, 1945
AK Brevard is reported to have been sunk near Milne Bay on Oct 04, 1944
AK Caledonia is reported to have been sunk near Milne Bay on Oct 03, 1944
SS Hardhead is reported to have been sunk near Taihoku on Mar 13, 1945
xAK Scotia is reported to have been sunk near Tinian on Oct 10, 1944
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The day after the KB move, surrounded by subs, I decided to simply move one hex and hug the coast i nthe shallows near Formosa. I predicted to lose a ship or two, but in fact the Allied subs moved along one path to attempt to get in the way of either a direct retreat or advance. I then sent every ASW ship available to guide the KB around to the back of Formosa, which also worked smoothly. Minor, but satisfying.
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Post #: 2579
RE: Wild Sheep Chase - 12/3/2013 9:28:25 AM   
obvert


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From: PDX (and now) London, UK
Status: offline 		15 - 16 March 1945
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SUBS: All Allied subs have departed.

STRAT BOMBING: The Beasts go for Shanghai again. They get a good portion of industry, but the night fighters take out a few.

CHINA: The retreating troops moving toward Nanning become the target of most of the Allied air forces. They lose over the two days more to the aerial bombing during two days than they lost in the Allied ground attack in their previous position blocking the road. They've now moved into Nanning, where the woods and forts should provide relative safety. The force is still fairly strong at 3400 AV. Enough to repel a shock over the river at least.

The Allies take out a few fields and are obviously bombing for supply in the mountains. It'll be a long campaign if they continue bombing troops and fields in China, so I say keep it coming. The Chinese are still advancing, which is a worry. We'll see if they move across the river.

HOME ISLANDS: The Allies move up again toward Okinawa. Their strike planes found an out of place amphib TF that I'd not set to stay at Nagasaki. They took out about 5 xAP and lost 90 strike planes to the CAP bleeding from Kyushu. The Franks and Sams did well.

A few kamis fly that are set slightly too far out. No results. One Frances does get through and does not hit the DE it aimed for. This initiates an inquiry from Jocke about the use of 1k settings for naval attack.

Apparently he thought we had made an agreement to not use this altitude setting. It certainly wasn't part of our recent HR renegotiation that he wanted to begin using LR CAP to better support his bombing missions. I'm a bit confused as I would never had made this agreement. It would negate all of the low naval trained pilots for any non-kami strike. Not ready for that even now, and I certainly wasn't earlier. In fact I've been using low naval attack throughout the game with no comment previously. Not sure why it stood out now.

He is not asking for an HR apparently, but just thought there was an agreement. I assured him there was not and it seems we're on track with no problems. In the beta and with the conditions of late war playing Japan in Scenario 1 I highly doubt we'll see any unusually effective low naval strikes. Hopefully some sunk ships at some point, but not fleets going down.

I had wondered why the B-25D1 strike recently came at 6k. Previous strikes had all been at 1k, so I am sure those will go back down to where they are most effective, which is as it should be.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 15, 45
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Night Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 26
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 11

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 8
B-29-25 Superfort x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 2 destroyed
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 3 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged


Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 15
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 7

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 11
B-29-25 Superfort x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 3 destroyed
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 6 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 5
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 35th Army, at 72,56 , near Nanning

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 12
Ki-84r Frank x 19

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on 35th Army, at 72,56 , near Nanning

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 8
Ki-84r Frank x 9

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Naha , at 95,66

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 7
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 36
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 27
Ki-84r Frank x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 8 damaged
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Naha , at 95,66

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 27
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 54

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 2 damaged
Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5A Catalina: 5 damaged
PBY-5A Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Naha , at 95,66

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 27
Ki-84r Frank x 24

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 7 damaged
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5A Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 17th Division, at 72,56 , near Nanning

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25G Mitchell x 3
B-25H Mitchell x 48
B-25J1 Mitchell x 56
B-25J11 Mitchell x 56
P-38J Lightning x 3
P-38L Lightning x 52
F4U-1D Corsair x 35
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 29
PV-1 Ventura x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J1 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
1647 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 73 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 131 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 25 (1 destroyed, 24 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Liuchow , at 74,55

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 186
P-38J Lightning x 43

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed on ground
J2M5 Jack: 6 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Airbase hits 46
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 95

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Daito Shoto at 96,70

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 9

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 92
Corsair IV x 51
Hellcat I x 6
Seafire IIC x 10
Seafire L.III x 4
F4U-1A Corsair x 55
F4U-1D Corsair x 449
F6F-3 Hellcat x 136
F6F-5 Hellcat x 198

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 16, 45
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Naha at 95,67

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 60 minutes

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 8

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 94
Corsair IV x 51
Hellcat I x 7
Hellcat F.II x 24
Seafire IIC x 10
Seafire L.III x 4
F4U-1A Corsair x 55
F4U-1D Corsair x 451
F6F-3 Hellcat x 343
F6F-5 Hellcat x 198

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Naha at 95,67

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 10

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 94
Corsair IV x 51
Hellcat I x 7
Hellcat F.II x 18
Seafire IIC x 10
Seafire L.III x 4
F4U-1A Corsair x 55
F4U-1D Corsair x 451
F6F-3 Hellcat x 298
F6F-5 Hellcat x 198

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on 35th Army, at 72,56 , near Nanning

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 158
B-25G Mitchell x 6
B-25H Mitchell x 30
B-25J1 Mitchell x 74
B-25J11 Mitchell x 62
P-38J Lightning x 47
P-38L Lightning x 70
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 16
PBJ-1H Mitchell x 3
PBJ-1J Mitchell x 3
PV-1 Ventura x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 4 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
2070 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 86 disabled
Non Combat: 33 destroyed, 298 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 110 (11 destroyed, 99 disabled)
Vehicles lost 85 (8 destroyed, 77 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Naha at 95,67

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 2,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 3

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 95
Corsair IV x 51
Hellcat I x 7
Seafire IIC x 10
Seafire L.III x 3
F4U-1A Corsair x 55
F4U-1D Corsair x 453
F6F-3 Hellcat x 137
F6F-5 Hellcat x 198

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ib Peggy: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
DE Marsh

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Ki-67-Ib Peggy flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 3 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tokara Retto at 100,62

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 32
Ki-84r Frank x 27

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 27
F6F-5 Hellcat x 41
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 7 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 8 destroyed
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAP Ural Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Nanman Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP Saipan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP Tsingtao Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
xAP Baikal Maru, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Tango Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tokara Retto at 100,62

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 27
Ki-84r Frank x 21

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 97
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 29
TBM-3 Avenger x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 3 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 6 destroyed
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak
TBM-3 Avenger: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAP Tango Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Saipan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Nanman Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Ural Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
xAP Baikal Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
E Kiji, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
E Manju

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tokara Retto at 100,62

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 55 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 15
Ki-84r Frank x 16

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 62
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 3 destroyed
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Nanman Maru, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
xAP Tango Maru, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
E Kiji, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
E Manju

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
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Reinforcements:

38th Ind.Mixed Regiment arrives at Kochi
39th Ind.Mixed Regiment arrives at Keijo
40th Ind.Mixed Regiment arrives at Keijo
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment arrives at Tokyo
105th Ind.Mixed Brigade arrives at Tokyo
41st Ind.Mixed Regiment arrives at Sapporo
43rd Ind.Mixed Regiment arrives at Tokyo

Losses:

Loss of E Kiji on Mar 16, 1945 is admitted
Loss of xAK Nanman Maru on Mar 16, 1945 is admitted
Loss of xAP Tsingtao Maru on Mar 16, 1945 is admitted
Loss of xAP Ural Maru on Mar 16, 1945 is admitted
Loss of xAP Baikal Maru on Mar 16, 1945 is admitted
Loss of xAP Tango Maru on Mar 16, 1945 is admitted
Loss of xAP Saipan Maru on Mar 16, 1945 is admitted

Ships Sunk:

Previous report of sinking of SS Tunny incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
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Sucks to lose ships, but good to hit Allied strike planes. Of course a very small percentage of the whole. Gives me ideas though.
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