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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 2/27/2018 12:33:40 AM   
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Hit 'esc' ONLY once.


I can push escape as many times as I want and it doesn't do anything different from just pushing it once...

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 12:48:19 AM   
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Hi guys. RL has kept me from here, but not the game so much. I've usually had time for one or the other, so sadly, the AAR suffered. I just sent the 6 Aug turn back to Ted. Things have turned into a brawl very quickly. But, one thing at a time.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 1:18:16 AM   
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Sub War
5 Fleet


Nothing to report.

4 Fleet

So it begins. I made the mistake of moving KB1/2 (Akagi, Kaga, Soryu, Shokaku, Zuikaku, Ryujo and Hosho) out of supporting range of MKB (Junyo, Hiyo, Shoho and Zuiho). KB was toward Rabaul hoping to catch an Allied cruiser TF that had been pestering Rabaul and MKB was a couple hexes north of Tabiteuea, covering that area. MKB spotted a different cruiser force and decided to charge south after them, right into the teeth of the US carriers, which I hadn't seen. They came from the east through a screen of Glen subs. Rotten subs. Anyway, the US carriers got the drop on MKB, sending in 18 Avengers (carrying bombs) and 72 Dauntlesses escorted by 25 Hellcats. They had 2 CVs and 2 CVLs for the fight. There was another "half" a TF of carriers, according to Ted. They were farther to the east. I spotted them at the end of the turn but they never got into the fight. Anyway, I had 63 Zeros defending and all they did was shoot down a couple dozen enemy planes. Most got through hitting all four of my carriers and the Tatsuta. The Junyo went down like a rock and Zuiho's decks were awash. Never saw that before.

Anyway, Hiyo and Shoho were moderately damaged and Zuiho would sink tomorrow. Did my planes counterattack? No! They sent 18 Vals after the cruiser TF hitting Indianapolis with a single bomb. Really? Then, in the afternoon, they sent 10 Kates escorted by 21 Zeros after the carriers. They never got close. 7 Zeros managed to make it home. I never saw the carriers.

Finally, the US carrier commander sent 27 unescorted Dauntlesses after my carriers. I still had 43 Zeros in the air and they shot down all the bombers. That was odd.

Fortunately, most of my planes were redirected to either Tabiteuea or the surviving carriers. As of 6 August, none of the remainder of MKB was attacked again. They're almost to Truk to start repairs. If those Avengers had been carrying torpedoes, I probably would have lost all the carriers.

Ah well. Glad it's just a game. It can get pretty stressful.

SE Fleet

The Allied bombers are going primarily after ground troops. I suspect he is going to invade somewhere, but he's hitting Manus, Kavieng and Rabaul, but primarily Kavieng. I think he wants to invade Kavieng to cut off Rabaul. That's a good tactic, if he can pull it off.

SRA
Burma


Nothing to report.

China

I bombarded Chungking again. The units were low on supply and it showed. Not much damage was done. I'll wait until they get more supply before bombarding again.

Other Stuff

A sixth (of 9) Frank R&D factory completed repairs.

Some 22 IJN pilot trainees advanced (month 10).

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 1:30:12 AM   
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Sub War

The Totitsukaze hit a sub off Truk with a DC.

The RO-105 spotted a US TF a few hexes south of Lunga and went after them. Turns out it was a pretty big TF and she put a torpedo into the CVE Santee. The TF also had 2 BB, 3 CL, 3 CLAA, 5 DD and 2 DE. In retaliation, they hit her with a DC. She started the long limp home. I will see that TF again in a few days.

5 Fleet

Nothing to report.

4 Fleet

KB moved to the east to cover the remnants of MKB. I saw the US carriers to the south but they made no move to go after the remnants. It was quiet in this patch of water. KB was unspotted.

SE Fleet

The Allied bombers focused on troops again today. I lost track of the TF with the torpedoed CVE.

SRA
Burma
China


Nothing to report.

Other Stuff

Overall, it was a quiet day. I was still pissed at MKB being ambushed.

The Ki84a Frank R&D advanced to 9/43 (will become operational ~8/10/43).

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 1:41:24 AM   
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3 Aug 43

Sub War

Nothing to report.

5 Fleet

Nothing to report.

4 Fleet

There was a small TF a couple hexes to the SE of Rabaul, near that base that the Allied paratroopers took (Namatanai, just east of Rabaul). I suspected they were trying to sneak in supplies, but wasn't sure. I detached 3 CA and 3 DD from KB to investigate. When my ships arrived, the Allied ships were gone, but the Japanese cruiser decided to hand out a couple hexes to the NE, within range of Shortlands Island. 27 SBDs came visiting and planted a 1000 lber on Mogami. Damage wasn't bad at 15-9(4)-5(4)-0. I sent her to Truk. She arrived a couple days later and began repairing.

Ted spotted KB and kept his distance. I have over twice the fighters as he does and more bombers too. Not much happened again. MKB remnants moved far enough to the NW of this area that they're out of danger from US carriers. Their only potential danger is subs. MKB is currently unspotted.

SE Fleet

More ineffectual Allied bombing of troops.

SRA
Burma


Nothing to report.

China

I destroyed another Chinese Corps in the countryside.

Other Stuff

Nothing exciting.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 1:42:05 AM   
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Another turn arrived. I'll be back.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 6:53:06 AM   
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Many of us had suggested and you agreed to get all your CV/CVLs back together. So I know you are kicking yourself for not following that "self" advice.

You lost the recon/intel battle as Ted seemed to have better knowledge of what you had vs what he had. Was it weather or did you not have enough Emily in area on NavS?

Why is the old, slow Hosho with your big CVs?

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 7:50:56 AM   
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Many of us had suggested and you agreed to get all your CV/CVLs back together. So I know you are kicking yourself for not following that "self" advice.

You lost the recon/intel battle as Ted seemed to have better knowledge of what you had vs what he had. Was it weather or did you not have enough Emily in area on NavS?

Why is the old, slow Hosho with your big CVs?


Agreed. Also, it's about time for the KB to go dark. It's a lot more useful unseen right now than out in the open. Getting to a few of the 100s of Allied cruiser won't change the game, but him knowing where he can strike and where he shouldn't because the KB is in plain sight, that is a game changer.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 9:42:10 AM   
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Guys, you're both absolutely right. I ran the 7 Aug turn late last night and need to complete it this morning. Unfortunately, I have a meeting and won't be back home for another 6 hours. I'm going to be thinking about my turn all morning.

Let's just say I evened the odds a bit. I don't want to spoil the fun for you.

Yes, KB is going dark now. They've completed their mission. I can't wait to get my 3 new carriers (Katsuragi, Amagi, Unryu) around the end of September. I'll have capacity superiority, I'm pretty sure. I'll need to count the decks on each side to be sure, but that's for later today.

Later guys!

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 10:51:45 AM   
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quote:

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Hit 'esc' ONLY once.


I can push escape as many times as I want and it doesn't do anything different from just pushing it once...


Be very careful not to push and hold it, especially if there will be a long stretch of recon flights following the air combat report you hit the escape key to exit from.

If you accidentally hold the escape key down too long the game engine will blitzkrieg through the recon flights and only slows back down to normal speed when the next air bombardment attack happens.
Can be a bit dizzying to watch and pretty hard to keep any kind of mental track of what is happening.

If you accidentally do this on the very last air combat mission the engine will blitzkrieg right through to the first land combat executing th eland movement phase at the dizzying rate making it impossible to keep track of who is moving.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 1:53:10 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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Hit 'esc' ONLY once.


I can push escape as many times as I want and it doesn't do anything different from just pushing it once...


Be very careful not to push and hold it, especially if there will be a long stretch of recon flights following the air combat report you hit the escape key to exit from.

If you accidentally hold the escape key down too long the game engine will blitzkrieg through the recon flights and only slows back down to normal speed when the next air bombardment attack happens.
Can be a bit dizzying to watch and pretty hard to keep any kind of mental track of what is happening.

If you accidentally do this on the very last air combat mission the engine will blitzkrieg right through to the first land combat executing th eland movement phase at the dizzying rate making it impossible to keep track of who is moving.


I actually want it to do this

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 3:29:19 PM   
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Guys, you're both absolutely right. I ran the 7 Aug turn late last night and need to complete it this morning. Unfortunately, I have a meeting and won't be back home for another 6 hours. I'm going to be thinking about my turn all morning.

Let's just say I evened the odds a bit. I don't want to spoil the fun for you.

Yes, KB is going dark now. They've completed their mission. I can't wait to get my 3 new carriers (Katsuragi, Amagi, Unryu) around the end of September. I'll have capacity superiority, I'm pretty sure. I'll need to count the decks on each side to be sure, but that's for later today.

Later guys!



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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 3:30:04 PM   
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Sounds like the KB avenged it's little brother against those 2 CVs and 2 CVLs.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 5:14:43 PM   
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Sounds like the KB avenged it's little brother against those 2 CVs and 2 CVLs.


Yes and no, in that order.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 5:31:41 PM   
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4 Aug 43

Sub War

Not a great day for the Japanese submarine service. The I-4 found a US BB/CL bombardment fleet 7 hexes south of Tabiteuea and ate a DC for nothing but wasted torpedoes. She'll limp toward Truk in a roundabout way to avoid the US TFs that are seemingly everywhere. As of 7 Aug, she's still crawling there, but her damage has stabilized at 37-28(2)-10-0.

The I-31 was sunk by DD Cushing up in the Aleutians. That one ship navy has been a thorn in my side for months.

5 Fleet

Nothing to report.

4 Fleet

No action here today. Both side's carriers are circling just out of range of each other trying to get the drop on the other.

SE Fleet

The Allied bombing focus was on Kavieng's troops. It's looking more and more like he wants to damage KB so he can proceed with an invasion there. I can't let that happen.

SRA

Nothing to report.

Burma

Ted dropped a handful (about 400) Chindits on Warazup, which is a dot hex in the extreme NE corner of Burma. I have a tank regiment near Katha. They're headed there to snuff it out.

China

Nothing to report.

Other Stuff

The last 2 of my 4 R&D engine factories completed repairing as Ha-43 factories. (1x60 and 3x30). Now I get 4% increase a day instead of the previous 2% a day.


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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 6:07:16 PM   
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5 Aug 43

Sub War

The Hake sank a Std-B TK (4275 capacity) in the Balikpapan pass. I have 3 ASW TFs there and they can't seem to do anything useful. I've now shifted all my TK convoys to avoid that pass. It'll take longer to do things that way, but it was inevitable. The only TFs I'm concerned about are the two 4x7950 TK convoys that have been shuttling fuel to Truk the whole war so far from Balikpapan. They're now going to head south then east to get there, which is longer so Truk is going to get less fuel at a time when more is needed there. For compensation, I'm shipping 100k fuel from Singapore to Truk.

That's about it for the subs. For all you sub lovers out there, don't worry, the sub war will heat up quite a bit in the next couple of days.

5 Fleet

Nothing to report.

4 Fleet

The US CV fleet that trashed MKB had been spotted ever since that debacle. Immediately after that happened, I sent 4 Fubukis from Truk to attempt a night engagement to try and put a torpedo or two into a US carrier. That happened today, in the wee hours, with 21% moonlight. I was hoping for less moonlight, but it was what it was. The TF was pretty big:

CV Hornet
CV Gettysburg (Yorktown II)
CVL Independence - smoking pretty good from damage sustained from something. Gotta look it up to figure it out.
CVL Princeton
4 BBs: NC, WA, SD, MA
3 CL
3 CLAA
10 DD

The Isonami, Oboro, Uranami and Shikinami tore into them, expending most of their ammo and hitting only with 5" shells, Princeton once and Hornet 3 times. In return, Oboro absorbed a 5 or 6" shell from a CL with no appreciable damage. It was a good attempt. Too bad the torpedoes all missed.

Later in the day, the carriers got their retribution. 36 SBDs found them hitting the Uranami and Shikinami with a single 1000 lb bomb each. The Uranami blew up like a firecracker, but Shikinami made it out of there. They're still limping toward Truk as of 7 Aug, but they should make it in a few days unless I get one of the dreaded damage control failure messages.

Tabiteuea received the first bombardment by a 2 BB, 2 CA, 3 CL TF causing damage that will take some time to repair (only 12 engineers there). That's ok. Let him focus on that chunk of sand.

My DDs must have spooked his carriers because they shifted SE, but I kept track of them the whole time.

I did spot an odd TF to the SE of Rabaul. There were capital ships as well as a relatively small number of aircraft. CVEs? A couple hexes away from it was another TF that I couldn't make out. Invasion TF? I moved KB to a point where they would be 7 hexes from Rabaul and Kavieng in case I was correct. I really think he wants to invade Kavieng. Note that KB has 200 fighters and 200 bombers. I wasn't too concerned about the main US carriers because they couldn't get there in one day. I figured that if they came close, I could always move due north tomorrow and be safe. I'd also have a chance to get in a good lick with little likelihood of attacks, unless we ended up in the same hex. The hex I chose to move to was next to the current location of the CVE(?) TF.

So, the stage was set. I moved on. I was still smarting from getting MKB trashed and kept second guessing myself.

SE Fleet

The Allied bombers decided to hit Rabaul's airfield. Almost to the point where I could use it effectively again. *Sigh*

SRA
Burma


Nothing to report.

China

Another bombardment of Chungking. Their AV decreased by 13 to 14,594 and mine increased by 5 to 6008. What does that mean? I haven't a clue.

Other Stuff

Reinforcement: TK Echo Maru, Type-1 TL (11.6k capacity), will convert to an AO.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 9:09:15 PM   
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Sub War

The Allies got in the first hit, but then it was all Japanese today.

A small xAKL was attempting to sneak some supply to Rabaul and was caught just north of the port by Growler, who sank her.

I have a 3 E ASW TF that is spending the war circling Babeldaob. Today, they found the Spearfish, hitting her with a couple DCs then driving her to the surface, pumping her full of shells before sinking her.

South of Noumea, the I-10 torpedoed and sank the ACM Bush. I guess it was worth the torpedoes.

Ted is getting bolder at Truk, driving some of his subs into the hex. I think he suspects (correctly) that my damaged carriers are headed there. The Skate first hit a mine, then was hit by a DC by a PB. No report of her sinking.

5 Fleet

Nothing to report.

4 Fleet

The day began with the US BB bombardment fleet hitting Tabiteuea again. I think this is going to become a regular event.

Then things got exciting. KB had moved to the west to try and intercept one (or both) of the fleets that had been (I think) heading north to invade. One of them fled to the SW but the other ended up 2 hexes from KB. Then the fun began.

We got the drop on the closer TF, composed of 2 CVE, 2 BB, 3 CL, 3 CLAA, 5 DD, 2 DE.

The report says it all:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ontong Java at 114,125

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5
A6M5 Zero x 56
B5N1 Kate x 6
B5N2 Kate x 72
B6N2 Jill x 27
D4Y1 Judy x 90

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 39

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 7 destroyed
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 9 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D4Y1 Judy: 8 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 2 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
BB New Mexico, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Colorado, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CVE Anzio, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CLAA Reno, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVE Santee, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Edward C. Daly, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CL Richmond
DD Carmick, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Concord, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CLAA Juneau, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Frankford
CLAA Oakland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Gilmore
DD Lang, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Stack
DD Sterett, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
27 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 14000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
6 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
12 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
9 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
6 x B5N1 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
7 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VF-26 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 8 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
VC(F)-33 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 7 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BB Colorado
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CLAA Reno
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BB New Mexico
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Lang
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Concord

I did use up most of the torpedoes on KB, but it was worth it. I ended up losing 15 Zeros, 4 Judies and a Kate. The Zeros took the brunt of the wrath of the 39 Hellcats, but they kept them off the bombers, which was their job. Only 4 of the 17 ships weren't damaged. Only 3 were confirmed sunk, but that's one TF that won't be available for awhile.

The US big boys were about 20 hexes to the SE of this engagement.

I'm going to make a loop to the north then west with KB to cover Kavieng and Rabaul hoping to catch some of the damaged ships and finish them off tomorrow.

SE Fleet

Rabaul received the majority of the Allied bomber sorties with Kavieng getting a slice that attacked the troops there. He keeps hitting the troops at Kavieng which supports my theory that he wants to invade that place. I still think the second TF was an invasion fleet, but I never got a good enough look at it to know for sure.

SRA
Burma
China


Nothing to report.

Other Stuff

The D4Y3 Judy R&D advanced to 2/44 (will become operational 11/43).
The N1K2-J George R&D advanced to 12/43 (will become operational 9/43).

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 10:24:19 PM   
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You didn't kill even 1 Hellcat? With all your ace pilots?
Hopefully the US Hellcats had trouble finding a place to land.

Your 2 CVLs for 2 US CVEs is not a good trade.
I wonder why this TF didn't run away?

Will Ted try something if he thinks your CVs have withdrawn to replenish?

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 11:28:19 PM   
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Two CVEs sunk, only about 90 plus to go.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/10/2018 11:35:47 PM   
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You guys think this was the big news?

Yeah, I was surprised at the inability to kill Hellcats today. I was really worried about the next turn. Damn, this is a stressful game. Really glad it's not real.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/11/2018 1:21:39 AM   
Mike Solli


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Sub War

The I-10 caught an inbound supply convoy south of Noumea and, in 2 attacks, sank one xAK and heavily damaged another. Just a couple hexes away, the I-170 sank an ACM.

East of Dutch Harbor, the I-179 sank another xAK.

Finally, off Truk, the Oyashio hit a sub prowling around the area.

5 Fleet

Nothing to report.

4 Fleet

Ok, I moved KB around with the idea of thrashing the already beat up CVE TF. I ended up 2 hexes to the NW of the remnants. What I didn't know was that there was another CV TF that came scurrying up from the south. This one was composed of Yorktown, Saratoga and Wasp. . Two fortunate events happened. 1) I got the first strike in and 2) they went after the CV TF 4 hexes away instead of the trashed CVE TF 2 hexes away.

My first strike was a biggun. 83 torpedo bombers and 63 dive bombers escorted by 56 Zeros, but he had 66 Hellcats defending. . Talk about stressful!

Here's the replay:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Ontong Java at 114,129

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5
A6M5 Zero x 51
B5N1 Kate x 3
B5N2 Kate x 54
B6N2 Jill x 26
D4Y1 Judy x 63

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 66

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 5 destroyed
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 7 destroyed, 4 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
B6N2 Jill: 2 destroyed
D4Y1 Judy: 10 destroyed, 13 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 4 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CV Saratoga, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
CV Wasp, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Wichita, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

I ended up losing 17 Zeros, 24 Dive Bombers and 17 torpedo bombers. Looks like only 25 TBs had torpedoes. The Wasp had a fuel explosion too. Definitely worth the pilots. I have plenty in the Home Islands waiting for their chance. By the way, only 2 Hellcats were shot down.

Ted's attack struck next. Here's the play by play:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Buka at 112,125

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 7
A6M5 Zero x 82
A6M5c Zero x 26

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 21
SBD-3 Dauntless x 63
TBF-1 Avenger x 51

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 5 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 25 destroyed, 21 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
TBF-1 Avenger: 21 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
CVL Ryujo
CV Akagi
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima
CV Kaga
CVE Hosho

Seeing over 100 enemy bombers heading my way scared the hell out of me. My fighters did their job though, killing 11 of the (only) 21 Hellcats before burning through to the bombers. They shot down 30 SBDs and 28 Avengers before getting to my ships. Flak got a couple SBDs and a dozen of each were shot down on the way home. 55 of the bombers attacked my ships and none hit, which I find curious. I guess he should have been more active with his bombers earlier striking at my ships where my carriers weren't, if only to get naval attack practice. Sitting in port training will get you only so much. Conversely, many of my carrier pilots were on those ships from the beginning of the war and have gained a LOT of experience. What's even more interesting is that while I lost quite a few planes, I didn't lose that many pilots. Really weird actually. Something saved a lot of them. I did have quite a few subs in the area but I though the subs had to be in the hex. Whatever the reason, I lost far fewer pilots than planes, which suites me fine.

There were a couple small attacks from both sides that got trashed. We each lost about a dozen planes.

Then, my carriers hit his CV TF in the afternoon:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ontong Java at 114,129

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 4
A6M5 Zero x 40
B5N1 Kate x 6
B5N2 Kate x 29
B6N2 Jill x 25
D4Y1 Judy x 38

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 4 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 2 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CV Wasp, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Saratoga, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Balch
CL Columbia
DD Lansdowne
CL Nashville
CL Phoenix
CL Montpelier
CL St. Louis
DD Reid
CL Honolulu

I think Wasp is doomed and Sara is 50-50. I think Yorktown will make it. Most of the bomb hits were 500kg.

Anyway, there was one final attack on my carriers:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Buka at 112,125

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5
A6M5 Zero x 59
A6M5c Zero x 17

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
F4U-1 Corsair x 2
SBD-5 Dauntless x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 1
BB Haruna

Only one Dauntless survived, but the hit was with a 1000 lb bomb. I was really worried that little Ryujo was doomed but was surprised by the damage: 1-11(1)-0-0 Must have been a near miss!

The last two attacks of the afternoon was by KB and they went after the CVE TF:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ontong Java at 114,126

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 18
D4Y1 Judy x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 5 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
BB New Mexico, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CLAA Reno
CLAA Oakland
DD Lang
DE Gilmore, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

and:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ontong Java at 114,126

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CLAA Oakland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Richmond, Torpedo hits 1
BB New Mexico, heavy damage
CL Detroit

New Mexico is doomed, as are some of the cruisers and destroyers too. It'll probably be awhile before I learn of the final results, but it was glorious.

In all, I lost 31 fighter pilots, 21 dive bomber pilots and 25 torpedo bomber pilots.

I'm heading for the hills with KB. They're just about out of torpedoes and need routine maintenance.

By the way, I heard multiple sinking sounds throughout the afternoon.

SRA
Burma
China


Nothing to report.

Other Stuff

Here's a screen shot of the aftermath:





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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/11/2018 1:49:36 AM   
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Here are the plane losses:





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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/11/2018 5:00:17 AM   
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Tuning in late to say: "Nice shootin' Tex!"

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/11/2018 6:10:40 AM   
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Banzai!!

You need some luck with your subs to bag another CV as those Yorktown Class are tough.

Weather seemed to be on your side, but severe storms didn't help your bomb runs in the PM phase.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/11/2018 6:42:07 AM   
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Nice going!

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/11/2018 12:34:30 PM   
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This is the kind of turn that makes my stomach turn as an AFB. I would like to know his CAP and escort
settings. Nice turn sir.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/11/2018 1:01:47 PM   
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Results like this usually end up with the AFB forming the deathstar...

I think in this case, I might be tempted to continue the attack. How I hate all those cruisers, light cruisers and it seems you have the potential to bag quite a few.

I say tempted because I don't have nearly enough information to make an informed decision, but you do. Nothing wrong in seeking the shadows again.

Often times, when the KB appears, it green-lights operations in other parts of the Empire.

Nice search to get the proper targeting and nicely done.

PS: You see here an early indicator of why you need the Sam.

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/11/2018 1:33:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: zuluhour

This is the kind of turn that makes my stomach turn as an AFB. I would like to know his CAP and escort
settings. Nice turn sir.


Here's the remainder of the my first attack so you can see some heights. My fighters were set at 18k and DBs and TBs at 14k. What settings do you guys use?

Edit: Guess I should add that part.

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
24 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 14000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
10 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
9 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 14000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 14000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
3 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 14000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (5 airborne, 12 on standby, 6 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
VF-6 with F6F-3 Hellcat (6 airborne, 12 on standby, 6 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
VF-71 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 5 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes

New Orleans dead in the water ...
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA New Orleans
Fuel storage explosion on CV Wasp

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/11/2018 1:34:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants_MatrixForum

Banzai!!

You need some luck with your subs to bag another CV as those Yorktown Class are tough.

Weather seemed to be on your side, but severe storms didn't help your bomb runs in the PM phase.


I wonder if it was because my TBs were bombing from 14k feet?

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RE: Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A) - 3/11/2018 1:42:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Results like this usually end up with the AFB forming the deathstar...

I think in this case, I might be tempted to continue the attack. How I hate all those cruisers, light cruisers and it seems you have the potential to bag quite a few.

I say tempted because I don't have nearly enough information to make an informed decision, but you do. Nothing wrong in seeking the shadows again.

Often times, when the KB appears, it green-lights operations in other parts of the Empire.

Nice search to get the proper targeting and nicely done.

PS: You see here an early indicator of why you need the Sam.


I ran because he has another CV TF of (I think) 2 CV and 2 CVL. Only Ryujo has torpedoes left and I am low on planes.

Yeah, yeah, I know, focus on the Sam. You probably don't recall but I made the stupid mistake of working on the A7M3, not the M2. I just reset to the M2 about a month or so ago (game time). Currently I have 11 factories but they're only repaired to 4,4,2,2,2,2,2,1,1,0,0.

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