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RE: 1945 June 09 - 12/7/2016 8:31:32 PM   
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Now, since you appear to be able to capture Kumamoto and with his mobile reinforcements trashed, don't you wish that you were invading Tsu?

Maybe it wasn't just the International Date Line but maybe they were also using the Julian calendar? This did cause problems with the British and Prussians when they communicated with the Russians when fighting Napoleon.

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RE: 1945 June 09 - 12/7/2016 8:59:09 PM   
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"Soviets will activate on August 1st. I have it in my brain that they are setup kinda funky as far was what makes sense for troop deployment. I am pretty sure you can’t march them anywhere was well. If you want a month or 2 weeks or something prior to August 1st to adjust their deployment, I will be more than happy to activate them for you with the agreement that they will not be used offensively until Aug 1st. I am willing to let them sit until August 1st but is seems like they would be deployed by that date where you would want them. Let me know what you think. Maybe the AARers have some thoughts. "

Your thoughts?

IRL the Russians did not attack until Aug. 12th IIRC, so activating on Aug. 1 gives them time to reach jumping-off points by Aug. 12.

Good point - and a detail I did not know!

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RE: 1945 June 09 - 12/7/2016 9:01:08 PM   
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You can always push to activate them sooner . . .

Now, since you appear to be able to capture Kumamoto and with his mobile reinforcements trashed, don't you wish that you were invading Tsu?

Maybe it wasn't just the International Date Line but maybe they were also using the Julian calendar? This did cause problems with the British and Prussians when they communicated with the Russians when fighting Napoleon.

Maybe they shouldn't have ordered fries with their julian calendar...

Not understanding the Tsu question - I am invading Tsu just as soon as possible.

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RE: 1945 June 09 - 12/7/2016 9:01:39 PM   
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1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 9:40:57 PM   
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The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:
Allied forces CAPTURE Kumamoto !!!

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Imperial Naval Bombardments


Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Kumamoto
Allied Ships Bombarding Kumamoto
Allied Ships Bombarding Kumamoto
Allied Ships Bombarding Kumamoto
Allied Ships Bombarding Kumamoto


Our subs are conducting secret activities.

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RE: 1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 9:41:24 PM   
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Ground combat at Shanghai (92,55)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2355 troops, 215 guns, 175 vehicles, Assault Value = 6824

Defending force 102909 troops, 650 guns, 188 vehicles, Assault Value = 2386

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
19th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
40th Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
24th Chinese Corps
41st Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
60th Chinese Corps
42nd Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
28th Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
10th Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
44th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
77th Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
59th Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
65th Chinese Corps
70th Chinese Corps
2nd New Chinese Corps
134th Medium Regiment
Z' Force
25th Group Army
85th Medium Regiment
Lusu War Area
20th Group Army
9th Group Army
35th Group Army
X' Force
134th (East Ang) Regiment
19th Group Army
3rd War Area
21st Group Army
1st Medium Regiment
16th Group Army
6th War Area
1st Front
87th Medium Regiment
2nd Medium Regiment
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
9th War Area
2/1st Med Regiment
22nd Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
133rd Division
62nd Infantry Brigade
7th Ind.Infantry Brigade
90th Ind.Mixed Brigade
72nd Infantry Brigade
77th Infantry Regiment
25th Division
56th Infantry Brigade
161st Division
132nd Division
58th Ind.Mixed Brigade
63rd Infantry Brigade
23rd Division
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
17th/C Division
6th Ind.Infantry Brigade
24th/A Division
89th Ind.Mixed Brigade
24th/C Division
3rd Mixed Brigade
41st/B Division
Shanghai SNLF
185th JAAF AF Bn
11th Army
13th Air Division
37th JAAF AF Bn
56th JNAF AF Unit
129th JAAF AF Bn
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
41st Ind Engineer Regiment
104th JAAF AF Bn
56th JAAF AF Bn
60th JAAF AF Bn
57th JAAF AF Bn
22nd AA Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
219th JAAF AF Bn
184th JAAF AF Bn
47th JAAF AF Bn
28th RF Gun Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment
30th JAAF AF Bn
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
China Area Fleet
Shanghai Special Base Force
220th JAAF AF Bn
Chugoku JNAF Base Force


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A number of battleship task forces will be assigned to support the next assault, which will take place just as soon as they can rearm and be on station. One TF is leaving Nago tonight and will bombard a day ahead of the ground attack to get disruption headed in the right direction.




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RE: 1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 9:41:46 PM   
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Ground combat at Chihfeng (100,38)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14080 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 524

Defending force 2400 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 80

Allied adjusted assault: 494

Japanese adjusted defense: 27

Allied assault odds: 18 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Chihfeng !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1070 casualties reported
Squads: 25 destroyed, 40 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
13th Chinese Corps
38th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
3rd Manchukuo Cav Brigade
7th Manchukuo Cav Brigade


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Another pursuit is on.




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RE: 1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 9:42:08 PM   
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Ground combat at Manila (79,77)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1503 troops, 150 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 1267

Defending force 47678 troops, 326 guns, 159 vehicles, Assault Value = 942

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st Regiment
14th NZ Brigade
7th Indian Division
2nd Regiment
15th NZ Brigade
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
8th NZ Brigade
81st (West African) Division
205th Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
462nd Airborn Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd RAA Jungle Regiment

Defending units:
39th/A Division
6th Division
66th Infantry Regiment
13th Ind.Mixed Regiment
79th Brigade
19th Naval Guard Unit
18th Tank Regiment
102nd Infantry Regiment
77th Infantry Brigade
39th/B Division
48th Field AA Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Ind.Mixed Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
14th Area Army
7th Ship Engineer Regiment
48th Field Artillery Regiment
9th RF Gun Battalion
2nd Army
30th JNAF AF Unit
14th Naval Construction Battalion
2nd South Seas Det.
41st Army
I./4th Infantry Battalion
53rd Infantry Brigade
180th JAAF AF Bn


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RE: 1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 9:42:29 PM   
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Ground combat at Kumamoto (102,59)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 65913 troops, 1366 guns, 1840 vehicles, Assault Value = 1906

Defending force 54946 troops, 638 guns, 140 vehicles, Assault Value = 966

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Allied adjusted assault: 3873

Japanese adjusted defense: 26

Allied assault odds: 148 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Kumamoto !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
23384 casualties reported
Squads: 372 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 405 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 163 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 379 (373 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 103 (103 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 13

Allied ground losses:
785 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 75 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Vehicles lost 60 (4 destroyed, 56 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
754th Tank Battalion
710th Tank Battalion
670th Tank Destroyer Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
6th Infantry Division
194th Tank Battalion
5th Marine Division
1st USMC Tank Battalion
24th Infantry Division
716th Tank Battalion
38th Infantry Division
41st Infantry Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
766th Tank Battalion
767th Tank Battalion
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
4th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
7th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
82nd Mortar Battalion
226th Field Artillery Battalion
Sixth US Army
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
XIV US Corps
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
3rd/A Division
109th Ind.Mixed Brigade
16th Infantry Regiment
1st Mobile Infantry Regiment
84th Division
146th Division
44th Division
22nd Tank Regiment
46th Division
80th Infantry Brigade
93rd Division
3rd/C Division
Waifu JAAF Base Force


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The base forces are already at sea and will probably commence amphibious unloading even before the devastated port is repaired. Additional combat troops are loading now at Hangchow and will be ferrying into to Kumamoto as shipping allows, given the priority of the Tsu invasion. As in the dry run a few days ago, the Imperials pushed out of Kumamoto retreated toward Kagoshima.

It looks as if the better Imperial units escaped to Kurume, where three of our divisions, most of the armor, and all of the artillery will head in pursuit and to cut off Nagasaki/Sasebo. The remaining LBA support will be tasked to hit defenders at Kurume, with sweepers assigned. Kurume recons with 22 units, 23,340 troops, 378 guns, 926 AFV. Given the shape our infantry is in, it might take them 3 days (even 4??) to get there, but most of the armor will make it in 1 day. So the plan is armor will attack on its own, with air support but no naval bombardments will be made available. Two old BB TF will bombard Nagasaki/Sasebo tonight to slow down the herd evacuating that doomed enclave.

The 5th USMC Division will head SE as fast as possible to cut the rail line out of Kagoshima. I don't know if they will do so in time to do any good, but if they do they will be well able to defend themselves in the Woods-Rough terrain. The one hex distance they must cover is 1/2 primary road and 1/2 trail. Armor would probably take too long on the trail portion, but I am also going to start the USA 194th Tank Bn moving, which is in the best shape of the armored units. The CVE torpedo bombers will assist by hitting the enemy units in Kagoshima. There are about 110,000 troops in Kagoshima and another 6,000 in Kanoya; maybe we can trap them!




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RE: 1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 9:42:49 PM   
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RE: 1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 9:43:06 PM   
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RE: 1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 9:43:25 PM   
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RE: 1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 9:43:45 PM   
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RE: 1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 10:39:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am ambivalent regarding the activation of soviet forces. I don't think it really matters all that much. So, up to you I guess :)

Good job at Kumamoto, But yes, he's obviously retreating to more defensible positions. Hoping you can cut off some of those troops!

I must admit though that the tsu invasion is what I'm looking forward to the most right now.. Alongside Shangai and Manila. Because, yes those 2 large and important settlements must be in allies hands

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RE: 1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 10:39:40 PM   
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A few turns ago you mentioned that you were capable of continuing operations at Kumamoto and still be able to invade Tsu. Just think if you were at Tsu now with his mobile reinforcements trashed.

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RE: 1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 10:59:56 PM   
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A very nice prize.

A few turns ago you mentioned that you were capable of continuing operations at Kumamoto and still be able to invade Tsu. Just think if you were at Tsu now with his mobile reinforcements trashed.

Or what if I hadn't screwed up loading and sailing orders and captured Kumamoto the turn before his mobile reinforcements arrived? Hard to look back, too many alternate branches.

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RE: 1945 June 10 - 12/7/2016 11:05:27 PM   
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I am ambivalent regarding the activation of soviet forces. I don't think it really matters all that much. So, up to you I guess :)

Good job at Kumamoto, But yes, he's obviously retreating to more defensible positions. Hoping you can cut off some of those troops!

I must admit though that the tsu invasion is what I'm looking forward to the most right now.. Alongside Shangai and Manila. Because, yes those 2 large and important settlements must be in allies hands

Thanks. I was thinking about just letting them sit until activation, even more so now that BBFanboy has clued me in more about the historical dates.

The first Shanghai attack was pretty good. I think the battleship bombardments will make a big difference and get the ball rolling. I know there will be plenty of Chinese Army casualties, but committing a lot of other Allied units would reduce the coming pressure on the Home Islands. Manila should fall more swiftly seeing as how the defenders' AV is going down steadily (although slowly). Shanghai AV is oscillating, so I assume there is more supply remaining in the units (likely none at all in the units in Manila).

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1945 June 11 - 12/9/2016 5:45:54 PM   
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The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:


There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Imperial Naval Bombardments


Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Nagasaki/Sasebo
Allied Ships Bombarding Nagasaki/Sasebo


Our subs are conducting secret activities.

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RE: 1945 June 11 - 12/9/2016 5:46:47 PM   
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Ground combat at Shanghai (92,55)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2343 troops, 215 guns, 175 vehicles, Assault Value = 6841

Defending force 103001 troops, 643 guns, 187 vehicles, Assault Value = 2391

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
44th Chinese Corps
59th Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
40th Chinese Corps
28th Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
65th Chinese Corps
41st Chinese Corps
24th Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
47th Chinese Corps
77th Chinese Corps
42nd Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
96th Chinese Corps
60th Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
10th Chinese Corps
70th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
2nd New Chinese Corps
1st Front
2nd Medium Regiment
87th Medium Regiment
35th Group Army
Lusu War Area
2/1st Med Regiment
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
6th War Area
9th Group Army
1st Medium Regiment
134th Medium Regiment
19th Group Army
X' Force
134th (East Ang) Regiment
3rd War Area
20th Group Army
21st Group Army
85th Medium Regiment
9th War Area
16th Group Army
25th Group Army
Z' Force
22nd Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
25th Division
56th Infantry Brigade
72nd Infantry Brigade
17th/C Division
6th Ind.Infantry Brigade
161st Division
3rd Mixed Brigade
24th/A Division
77th Infantry Regiment
62nd Infantry Brigade
58th Ind.Mixed Brigade
133rd Division
8th Ind Engineer Regiment
7th Ind.Infantry Brigade
63rd Infantry Brigade
23rd Division
132nd Division
24th/C Division
89th Ind.Mixed Brigade
90th Ind.Mixed Brigade
41st/B Division
185th JAAF AF Bn
Shanghai SNLF
37th JAAF AF Bn
30th JAAF AF Bn
28th RF Gun Battalion
129th JAAF AF Bn
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
41st Ind Engineer Regiment
11th Army
57th JAAF AF Bn
219th JAAF AF Bn
56th JNAF AF Unit
11th Field Artillery Regiment
56th JAAF AF Bn
Shanghai Special Base Force
47th JAAF AF Bn
60th JAAF AF Bn
220th JAAF AF Bn
22nd AA Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
China Area Fleet
13th Air Division
184th JAAF AF Bn
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
104th JAAF AF Bn
Chugoku JNAF Base Force


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The first naval bombardment will be tonight. The assault, with accompanying festival of naval bombardments, will be in two days.




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RE: 1945 June 11 - 12/9/2016 5:47:15 PM   
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RE: 1945 June 11 - 12/9/2016 5:47:41 PM   
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Ground combat at Manila (79,77)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1497 troops, 150 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 1282

Defending force 47466 troops, 324 guns, 157 vehicles, Assault Value = 944

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
14th NZ Brigade
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
1st Regiment
7th Indian Division
2nd Regiment
15th NZ Brigade
8th NZ Brigade
81st (West African) Division
131st Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
462nd Airborn Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd RAA Jungle Regiment

Defending units:
19th Naval Guard Unit
79th Brigade
102nd Infantry Regiment
18th Tank Regiment
66th Infantry Regiment
77th Infantry Brigade
13th Ind.Mixed Regiment
6th Division
1st Ind.Mixed Regiment
39th/A Division
39th/B Division
48th Field Artillery Regiment
30th JNAF AF Unit
14th Naval Construction Battalion
48th Field AA Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
41st Army
53rd Infantry Brigade
14th Area Army
I./4th Infantry Battalion
2nd South Seas Det.
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
9th RF Gun Battalion
2nd Army
7th Ship Engineer Regiment
180th JAAF AF Bn


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We are up to 2,279 AV for the next assault. I'll give it one more turn before ordering all units recovering at Batangas back to Manila for the next go.




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RE: 1945 June 11 - 12/9/2016 5:48:05 PM   
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Kumamoto has almost repaired the runways (3%) but the air service areas and the port are both 100% damaged. The first support units will begin landing tonight, a base force and a construction unit. Other support units plus elements of two divisions will begin landing the turn following. From the operations report.
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Fires causing damage to Light Industry at Kumamoto!

The 5th USMC Division and the USA 194th Tank Battalion only covered 10 miles each heading SE in their attempt to cut the rail line: much too slow. They will change direction and head right into Kagoshima. It is possible that the armor will get there in time to stop some units from pulling out via strategic rail movement, but it won't be possible to trap units in Kagoshima itself. That city recons with 17 units, 72,180 troops, 346 guns, and 31 AFV, which is about 30,000 troops fewer than yesterday.




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RE: 1945 June 11 - 12/9/2016 5:48:27 PM   
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RE: 1945 June 11 - 12/9/2016 5:48:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Air losses. This was a rare day because, even with the closer proimixy of many of the bombers to Kurume, the sweepers got there first. This was the last air strike of the day and the only one in the afternoon.
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Afternoon Air attack on 23rd AA Regiment, at 103,58 (Kurume)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 18
J2M2 Jack x 7
J2M5 Jack x 16
N1K1-J George x 9
N1K2-J George x 34
Ki-84a Frank x 5
Ki-84r Frank x 27

Allied aircraft
B-25G Mitchell x 11
B-25H Mitchell x 25
P-47N Thunderbolt x 15
F4U-1 Corsair x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25G Mitchell: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-25H Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 3 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
199 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 14 (9 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-25G Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 1 plane(s) with no ordnance
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-25G Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
903 Ku S-1 with A7M2 Sam (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Raid is overhead
5th Sentai/A with Ki-84r Frank (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
210 Ku S-2 with N1K1-J George (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
901 Ku S-1 with N1K2-J George (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
10 planes vectored on to bombers
S-401 Hikotai with N1K2-J George (11 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
352 Ku S-2 with A7M2 Sam (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Raid is overhead
6 planes vectored on to bombers
S-602 Hikotai with J2M5 Jack (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
381 Ku S-1 with A7M2 Sam (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Raid is overhead
721 Ku S-1 with J2M2 Jack (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Raid is overhead
5th Sentai/C with Ki-84r Frank (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
59th Sentai/A with Ki-84r Frank (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
S-306 Hikotai with A7M2 Sam (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Raid is overhead
S-308 Hikotai with N1K2-J George (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
S-313 Hikotai with J2M5 Jack (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
S-301 Hikotai Det A with N1K2-J George (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
Hiyo-1 with J2M5 Jack (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
Zuiho-1 with N1K1-J George (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
50th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
71st Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead
204th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 212th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 23rd AA Regiment ...
Also attacking 212th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 23rd AA Regiment ...
Also attacking 212th Division ...
Also attacking 9th Tank Regiment ...


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The CAP had recovered from the sweeps and the morning air raids, but of course was still lacking the fighters destroyed and taken out of service. We wold have lost many bombers this day had hte sweeps gone in later!




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RE: 1945 June 11 - 12/9/2016 5:49:21 PM   
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RE: 1945 June 11 - 12/9/2016 6:54:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Losses in Sam, Jack, George, and Frank... 147 total.. Essentially 3:1

Would appear to be - by plane type - the cream of the Imperial air flotilla held in reserve for this eventuality. Well executed. While end game has been in sight for some time this rather puts an exclamation on it. Eventually there will be no air cover for IJA ground forces.

All that is missing apparently is Thomas, Richard, and Harold (Tom Dick and Harry). If you had caught them then Robert would be thy mother's brother.

Question

Do you tier your sweeps ? Do you send everyone in at the same altitude? Does your air frame maneuver bands factor into your decisions?

Do you only use sweep or do you use airfield attack as well with pure fighters ?

From reporter I see you are using:

Night fighter Hellcats off a carrier (Enterprise or some such)
Hellcats (carrier)
Corsairs (carrier and LBA ?) ...
and a lot of P51's which I presume are all LBA.


I have yet to be at a point in the game where I could effect such massive multi plane sweeps or airfield attacks.

Or is it merely as simple as throw what I have at it from everything close at hand ?



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RE: 1945 June 11 - 12/9/2016 7:08:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Macclan5

Losses in Sam, Jack, George, and Frank... 147 total.. Essentially 3:1

Would appear to be - by plane type - the cream of the Imperial air flotilla held in reserve for this eventuality. Well executed. While end game has been in sight for some time this rather puts an exclamation on it. Eventually there will be no air cover for IJA ground forces.

All that is missing apparently is Thomas, Richard, and Harold (Tom Dick and Harry). If you had caught them then Robert would be thy mother's brother.

Question

Do you tier your sweeps ? Do you send everyone in at the same altitude? Does your air frame maneuver bands factor into your decisions?
My setup is simpler than might appear. All the sweeps are at max altitude for the fighters. I have in the past tried tiering them but with worse results. In many cases the defense can be improved by tiering, but no luck for me on offense.

Do you only use sweep or do you use airfield attack as well with pure fighters ?
At the moment I am only sweeping the target hex. I have used fighters to hit airfields in the past, but more often I needed to husband the pools to use them for CAP/escort/sweep. Lately I have P-38, P-51B, P-40N, (and Chinese P-51D) for ground attack, but so far almost all on troops. In the Home Islands the Imperial fighters are coming from too many bases that are too difficult to shut down. The big 4EB are the only things that can attack them without getting murdered, and they sometimes get the short end anyway.

From reporter I see you are using:

Night fighter Hellcats off a carrier (Enterprise or some such) Land based, although carrier trained and capable. One or two CVE with organic night groups have arrived but are not on station.
Hellcats (carrier) Yes.
Corsairs (carrier and LBA ?) ... Both.
and a lot of P51's which I presume are all LBA. Of course.


I have yet to be at a point in the game where I could effect such massive multi plane sweeps or airfield attacks.

Or is it merely as simple as throw what I have at it from everything close at hand ?
Totally situational. You have to learn what is possible in various situations, then assess the current situation. Execute, then adjust based on results.




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RE: 1945 June 11 - 12/9/2016 10:35:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do you have any paras that could drop and cut that rail line in Kyushu? They could then march into Kagoshima before the Japanese send a unit to deal with them.

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RE: 1945 June 11 - 12/10/2016 4:38:06 AM   
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Do you have any paras that could drop and cut that rail line in Kyushu? They could then march into Kagoshima before the Japanese send a unit to deal with them.

IIRC paras can only drop on bases or on enemy units. The hex being empty I don't think it would work. Decent idea, though.

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1945 June 12 - 12/11/2016 3:38:25 AM   
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The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:


There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Imperial Naval Bombardments


Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Shanghai


Our subs are conducting secret activities.

China Outback.




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