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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/3/2015 8:47:24 PM   
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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/3/2015 8:47:55 PM   
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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/3/2015 8:48:19 PM   
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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/3/2015 9:58:44 PM   
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Sure a lot fewer red TFs on the map. Your SCTFs should follow the sub tradition and lash a broom to their masts!
Shame your fast BB TF did not find targets worthy of their guns. Keep them hunting as long as they have air cover and fuel.



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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/3/2015 11:03:13 PM   
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This reads like the Mariana's Turkey shoot but in ships. Is it me or did the Japanese surface units underperform? I expected more from them. Could they be damaged? Could the earlier losses dent their morale

Nice job, quite the wall set up there in ships and planes.

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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/3/2015 11:03:28 PM   
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Sure a lot fewer red TFs on the map. Your SCTFs should follow the sub tradition and lash a broom to their masts!
Shame your fast BB TF did not find targets worthy of their guns. Keep them hunting as long as they have air cover and fuel.



Shoot - I forgot to update their orders. They will be patrolling wherever they already are.

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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/3/2015 11:04:58 PM   
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This reads like the Mariana's Turkey shoot but in ships. Is it me or did the Japanese surface units underperform? I expected more from them. Could they be damaged? Could the earlier losses dent their morale

Nice job, quite the wall set up there in ships and planes.

I don't think they under-performed. On this day most of them had either ammo issues or damage issues or both. Yesterday they did just fine, sinking a USN fast BB and mauling two others!

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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/3/2015 11:05:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cdnice

This reads like the Mariana's Turkey shoot but in ships. Is it me or did the Japanese surface units underperform? I expected more from them. Could they be damaged? Could the earlier losses dent their morale

Nice job, quite the wall set up there in ships and planes.

I don't think they under-performed. On this day most of them had either ammo issues or damage issues or both. Yesterday they did just fine, sinking a USN fast BB and mauling two others!

And BTW the other ships that fought them yesterday did not get off free either (see that day's entry).

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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/4/2015 1:36:48 AM   
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Sure a lot fewer red TFs on the map. Your SCTFs should follow the sub tradition and lash a broom to their masts!
Shame your fast BB TF did not find targets worthy of their guns. Keep them hunting as long as they have air cover and fuel.



Shoot - I forgot to update their orders. They will be patrolling wherever they already are.

Here they are. They hadn't made it to their assigned patrol area so they probably will get there tomorrow. the bad news is that they will have no carrier cover close by because the two CV groups will be 1 hex NW of Groot Natoena.




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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/4/2015 9:20:43 AM   
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Whoa. Those convoys of AKs and TKs are juicy. He must have hoped there were not that many Tfs in the backyard and tried to make a run for it. Likely full of supplies and fuel, so having sunk them is good.

I'm kind of surprised your old battleships performed so well. I didn't play that much yet, but the imperial battleships seems much better than the old allied battleships.

What are those 2 TFs near Jesseltown? One I suppose is the remnants of the cargo TF, the other?

Also, do you have plans to conquer Kuching/Singkawang too? Probably not considered you said you were not going to go for Singapore soon, but I wanted to ask.

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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/4/2015 5:00:55 PM   
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Whoa. Those convoys of AKs and TKs are juicy. He must have hoped there were not that many Tfs in the backyard and tried to make a run for it. Likely full of supplies and fuel, so having sunk them is good.
Fuel and/or oil for sure. Supply I'm not certain but maybe. I just don't know if he has surplus supply in the now cut-off DEI/SRA or even has decided to send every last bit to Japan as a priority, or if he was sending merchants full of resources to Japan. I did figure that he might try to force some convoys by during the distraction of a naval battle. Since I was already continuing with troop movements in that area I had to protect my own convoys, which automatically put forces in place to intercept the Empire's convoys.

I'm kind of surprised your old battleships performed so well. I didn't play that much yet, but the imperial battleships seems much better than the old allied battleships.


What are those 2 TFs near Jesseltown? One I suppose is the remnants of the cargo TF, the other?
Well, it was only Kongos, which are certainly faster but less well armored than the other IJN battleships. Plus the Kongos were on their second day so had ammo and damage issues (there was one old USN BB in combat the first day but at the moment I forget what IJN ships it encountered). The old USN BBs are good ships, they're just slow. And, in the AE game system, they also need some good naval combats to get up their crew experience. They all had benefited from lots of bombardment missions but that only took experience up so far and pretty slowly.

BTW I took a closer look at the map with the F6 key toggled and realized that Saigon is not upriver and so should be vulnerable to BB bombardment.


Also, do you have plans to conquer Kuching/Singkawang too? Probably not considered you said you were not going to go for Singapore soon, but I wanted to ask.
Yes. With minor forces (compared to the force level on the continent). Brunei is next with a Bde partially prepared. I think I have something preparing for - maybe? - Kuching but I don't have the game open right now to look.

I also verified that B-24s can hit Singapore within normal range from Soc Trang, and Soc Trang can build to size 9 airfield.



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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/4/2015 9:47:08 PM   
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I'd do the same, though I might try to sneak some surface groups and transports around Borneo. They are all dead anyway.

I'm surprised that he was caught by your move into Cam Ranh with the KB in Singapore. He obviously wasn't expecting it.

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RE: 1944 July 10 - 6/4/2015 11:07:17 PM   
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I'd do the same, though I might try to sneak some surface groups and transports around Borneo. They are all dead anyway.

I'm surprised that he was caught by your move into Cam Ranh with the KB in Singapore. He obviously wasn't expecting it.

Yeah, I actually thought that I saw movements indicating he had figured out I was aiming for Cam Ranh Bay or was just moving to defend against the possibility so I rushed it.

Around Borneo would be worse. I have far more air power based there (because I have the bases to do it, and have left destroyer forces guarding passages. That plus the fact that my ships now in the South China Sea would have the interior move to also intercept means anything that went that way would never make it.

Of the the two alternatives he chose the better. The third alternative was to wait longer, and my carriers would have had to start rotating out. But with CRB a size 7 port and Jesselton just about a size 7 airfield, the carriers could have replenished much more quickly than a trip back to the Celebes Sea. So trying to force things all at once was really the only possibility. The question was 'when', and the Allies bases are just continuing to build, so sooner was better.

Even if he kept the carriers and battle fleet at Singapore, once the bases got big enough and numerous enough my carriers could leave for other operations anyway. The IJN fleet would still have to run a guantlet.

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1944 July 11 - 6/11/2015 12:20:41 AM   
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1944 July 11

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:
Quinhon

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Our subs got nothing and we lost a sub.

Quiet in China.

The end has come in Rangoon! More progress beyond Tavoy toward Mergui.
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Ground combat at Rangoon (54,53)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 139703 troops, 2243 guns, 1483 vehicles, Assault Value = 3686

Defending force 13997 troops, 45 guns, 13 vehicles, Assault Value = 32

Allied adjusted assault: 3446

Japanese adjusted defense: 5

Allied assault odds: 689 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
18055 casualties reported
Squads: 442 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1033 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 34 (34 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 13 (13 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
2nd Reserve Division
14th Army Engineer Battalion
8th New Chinese Corps
88th Chinese Division
36th Chinese Division
Americal Infantry Division
111th LRP Brigade
20th Indian Division
72nd British Brigade
7th Indian Division
XV Corps Engineer Battalion
18th British Division
81st (West African) Division
27th Infantry Division
22nd New Chinese Division
IV Corps Engineer Battalion
XXXIII Corps Engineer Battalion
19th Indian Division
3rd New Chinese Corps
14th Indian Division
36th Div Engineer Battalion
25th Indian Division
96th Chinese Division
5th Indian Division
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
8th Belfast Heavy Regiment
56th Heavy Regiment
32nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
500th Base Group
2/11th Field Regiment
88th Medium Regiment
2/1 AIF Pioneer Battalion
2/2 AIF Pioneer Battalion
33rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2/1st Med Regiment
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2/3 AIF Pioneer Battalion
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
27th Indian Field Artillery Battalion
2/9th Field Regiment
499th Base Group
XV Indian Corps
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment

Defending units:
19th Division
33rd Division


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Ground combat at 53,61 (near Tavoy)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1056 troops, 0 guns, 196 vehicles, Assault Value = 151

Defending force 993 troops, 2 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Allied adjusted assault: 78

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 26 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
486 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
11th PAVO Regiment
4th Burma Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment

Defending units:
8th Field Construction Battalion
8th JAAF AF Coy


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Tomorrow the crossing will be made into Rahaeng. Some of the armour will also attack on the road from Moulmein to Bangkok.

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Allied Ships Bombarding Pagan

The two battleships mistakenly sent afield without air cover suffered accordingly, first by kamikazes from the northwest then by savages from Singapore.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 54,80

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 98 NM, estimated altitude 39,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 7 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, Kamikaze hits 2
BB Washington, Kamikaze hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x A6M5 Zero flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 54,80

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 4
B6N1 Jill x 15
N1K2-J George x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N1 Jill: 8 damaged
B6N1 Jill: 3 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, on fire
BB Washington, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

Banzai! - Nomura R. in a B6N1 Jill is willing to die for the Emperor


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 54,80

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 11 damaged
Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
BB North Carolina, on fire
BB Washington, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
3 x Ki-67-Ia (T) Peggy launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp



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Our own strike on retiring destroyers near Singapore was roughly handled.
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Singapore at 51,84

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 2
N1K2-J George x 33
Ki-84a Frank x 47

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 23
F6F-3 Hellcat x 23
SBD-5 Dauntless x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K2-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 6 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 6 destroyed
SBD-5 Dauntless: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
DD Yudachi
DD Yugure
DD Akebono

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-305 Hikotai with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
S-602 Hikotai with N1K2-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(32 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 32 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
Akagi-1/C with A6M5b Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 13000.
Raid is overhead
11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(47 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 47 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 19000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes



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Mogami made it from Soc Trang to our Cam Ranh Bay SLOC but found no victims. Likely she is out of ammo anyway.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 67,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 15
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11
TBF-1 Avenger x 9

Allied aircraft losses
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Bomb hits 3, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 67,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-5 Dauntless x 35

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Bomb hits 17, on fire, heavy damage
DD Niizuki, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 4000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Mogami


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Washington is in bad shape and might sink before making Cam Ranh Bay. Most of out carriers, plus the larger of the CVE groups at Soc Trang, will move to provide cover. Recon now shows 329 fighters, 74 bombers, and 62 auxiliary types at Singapore. USN cruiser and destroyer squadrons chased wayward Imperial warships far to the east, to Busuanga. They put a DD under and, amazingly, were not attacked by aircraft from Manila.

Quinhon fell hard. The river crossing into Saigon went well, but our troops there will need several days to recover.
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Ground combat at Saigon (60,71)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 33842 troops, 492 guns, 632 vehicles, Assault Value = 1218

Defending force 19474 troops, 166 guns, 83 vehicles, Assault Value = 478

Allied adjusted assault: 477

Japanese adjusted defense: 777

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2472 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 163 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 27 (1 destroyed, 26 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1412 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 290 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 24 (1 destroyed, 23 disabled)

Assaulting units:
11th Airborne Division
1st Australian Division
711th Tank Battalion
2/6th Armoured Regiment
706th Tank Battalion
5th Australian Division
1st Medium Regiment
2nd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
Cape St.Jaques Fortress
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
104th/A Division
113th JAAF AF Bn
12th Base Force
109th JAAF AF Bn
23rd AA Regiment
33rd Army
104th/C Division


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Ground combat at Quinhon (65,69)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13260 troops, 227 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 531

Defending force 4413 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 100

Allied adjusted assault: 90

Japanese adjusted defense: 19

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Quinhon !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1979 casualties reported
Squads: 55 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 44 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 17 (14 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
160 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 14 (1 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Units pursuing 2

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2/5th Armoured Regiment
23rd Australian Brigade
2/4th Armoured Regiment
22nd Australian Brigade
27th Australian Brigade

Defending units:
23rd Ind.Mixed Brigade


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Our armour has pursued and will attack tomorrow, hoping to shatter the 23rd.

In spite of the way the map looks with the F6 key toggled - showing a white hex side - Saigon is upriver and cannot be reached by battleships. Drat! CVL Langley has made it to CRB and is undergoing repairs. The four CV now at Jesselton have not replenished sorties but have taken replacement aircraft. The airfield will reach size 7 tomorrow; if they do not replenish after that then they will head for CRB.

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RE: 1944 July 11 - 6/11/2015 12:21:22 AM   
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Here is the complete combat report. Our subs near Singapore were hammered relentlessly.

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RE: 1944 July 11 - 6/11/2015 1:12:48 AM   
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What the Japanese could do with that type of firepower. Just the number of sorties alone would chew 1/2 of Japanese fuel reserves.

10k ground losses in one day for Japan. Wow. His kamikaze attacks are working. Perhaps it's the 39k altitude.

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RE: 1944 July 11 - 6/11/2015 2:16:26 AM   
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What the Japanese could do with that type of firepower. Just the number of sorties alone would chew 1/2 of Japanese fuel reserves.

10k ground losses in one day for Japan. Wow. His kamikaze attacks are working. Perhaps it's the 39k altitude.

More than 20k ground losses: >18k at Rangoon alone! Now I am starting to feel pretty confidant about trapping all the troops still marching to Chiang Mai (another 80k to 90k). Tomorrow's river-crossing battle will be critical, but I think defenses at Rahaeng will crumble because they are (I think) the same units that have been retreated at least twice already. The other two bases are showing very little on recon, so I should be able to roll them up, stopping all strategic movement out of Chiang Mai.

The kamikazes were helpful but the torpedoes are what really knackered BB Washington. Totally an unforced error by forgetting to update orders for that TF last turn. I've had plenty of luck so no complaints!

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RE: 1944 July 11 - 6/11/2015 10:44:35 PM   
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It is tough being Japan in 44; but that attack on those fast battleships makes you feel good!

What did the the two hits do to the other BB? 1 point of system damage, or more, I see a fires label? Hard to believe they did anything other than superficial damage or take out an AA mount.

I think it is now time to call for a breather, a chance for you to dig in and defend your perimeter. Prep for the next bases, and perhaps make an attack in 2 or 3 months from now. No hurry, no rush at all for the Allies. Give everyone a little R&R!

Do you have a date for the Okinawa landings? I really want to see that given your description of the troops present!

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RE: 1944 July 11 - 6/11/2015 10:51:09 PM   
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It is tough being Japan in 44; but that attack on those fast battleships makes you feel good!

What did the the two hits do to the other BB? 1 point of system damage, or more, I see a fires label? Hard to believe they did anything other than superficial damage or take out an AA mount.

I think it is now time to call for a breather, a chance for you to dig in and defend your perimeter. Prep for the next bases, and perhaps make an attack in 2 or 3 months from now. No hurry, no rush at all for the Allies. Give everyone a little R&R!

Do you have a date for the Okinawa landings? I really want to see that given your description of the troops present!

Looks like a trip to Pearl for NorCal!




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RE: 1944 July 11 - 6/11/2015 11:03:21 PM   
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No date for Okinawa yet. I really need to get some upgrades done and, as you point out, get some ships repaired! I will continue with some minor landings. Maybe I can squeeze in Kuching without stirring the hornets' nest too badly. That Bde is only something like 50 or 60% prepared, though. Having both Kuching and Soc Trang will allow me to use the full force of two theaters' B-24 groups against Singapore. It would be nice to crush that air power center before a campaign to capture it.

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RE: 1944 July 11 - 6/12/2015 12:34:07 AM   
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Wow, one of those Zeroes really did job.


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RE: 1944 July 11 - 6/12/2015 1:23:32 AM   
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Wow, one of those Zeroes really did job.



You're kidding, right?
The Kamikazes did very little but the 3 torp hits from the Jills really caused a gut-ache!

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RE: 1944 July 11 - 6/12/2015 1:30:31 AM   
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Wow, one of those Zeroes really did job.



You're kidding, right?
The Kamikazes did very little but the 3 torp hits from the Jills really caused a gut-ache!


Not at all, if one of those guys took out a 16 inch battery, that is not shabby at all.

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RE: 1944 July 11 - 6/12/2015 1:46:24 AM   
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Yeah, the torps were all on Washington as far as I know. Knocking out a BB turret is pretty good.

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RE: 1944 July 11 - 6/12/2015 4:15:26 AM   
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Wow, one of those Zeroes really did job.



You're kidding, right?
The Kamikazes did very little but the 3 torp hits from the Jills really caused a gut-ache!


Not at all, if one of those guys took out a 16 inch battery, that is not shabby at all.


You're right - I failed to notice what you were alluding to. Good observation.

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RE: 1944 July 11 - 6/12/2015 4:44:39 AM   
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I've been very lucky with carriers, but my battleships have taken a beating. That's what they are there for, but now several USN fast BB need yard time and will be less available for upcoming operations. Mass destruction of the IJN battle fleets (surface and carrier) didn't come a moment too soon!

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1944 July 12 - 6/15/2015 6:02:47 AM   
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1944 July 12

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:


There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Our subs came up empty but we got one of theirs.

Quiet in China.

The Empire fooled us at Rahaeng - one of the units there was swapped for a fresh Thai division. We got 2 to 1 with the river crossing but their fortifications held, and now our troops must rest. The additional division and Bde should be able to join them in 3 days to help push things along. Another division will take a week to arrive (the 7th Australian detraining at Moulmein). The Allied bombers kept their main concentration on impeding the movement of the troops escaping toward Chiang Mai, but could add weight to the next attack at Rahaeng.
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Ground combat at Rahaeng (58,56)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 35321 troops, 487 guns, 561 vehicles, Assault Value = 1067

Defending force 12525 troops, 125 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 380

Allied adjusted assault: 667

Japanese adjusted defense: 279

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1132 casualties reported
Squads: 46 destroyed, 53 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 13 (4 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2507 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 420 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 37 disabled
Guns lost 79 (8 destroyed, 71 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2nd British Division
28th (East African) Brigade
13th Burma Rifles Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
BFF Brigade
1st Mysore Battalion
Gardner's Horse Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
17th Indian Division
12th Indian Heavy AA Regiment

Defending units:
113th Infantry Regiment
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
3rd RTA Division
4th RTA Division



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Ground combat at 55,59 (near Tavoy)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7691 troops, 39 guns, 983 vehicles, Assault Value = 849

Defending force 2766 troops, 14 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 82

Allied adjusted assault: 347

Japanese adjusted defense: 16

Allied assault odds: 21 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2444 casualties reported
Squads: 49 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 19 (16 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 11 (3 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
254th Armoured Brigade
Provisionl Tank Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
255th Indian Tank Brigade
192nd Tank Battalion
18th Cavalry Regiment

Defending units:
RTA Cavalry Division


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Our armour is now moving further down the road to the hex the two infantry divisions are moving toward. The Imperials have 4 units there but I don't trust the 6,500 troop estimate. More likely it is a major defensive position.

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Allied Ships Bombarding Saigon
Allied Ships Bombarding Pagan

The ex-defenders of Quinhon are crushed.
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Ground combat at 66,68 (near Quinhon)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1146 troops, 0 guns, 215 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Defending force 2888 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Allied adjusted assault: 36

Japanese adjusted defense: 9

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1090 casualties reported
Squads: 61 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 27 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2/4th Armoured Regiment
2/5th Armoured Regiment

Defending units:
23rd Ind.Mixed Brigade


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Ground combat at Saigon (60,71)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 480 troops, 44 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 1006

Defending force 21178 troops, 217 guns, 82 vehicles, Assault Value = 448

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
1st Australian Division
11th Airborne Division
706th Tank Battalion
711th Tank Battalion
2/6th Armoured Regiment
5th Australian Division
1st Medium Regiment
2nd Medium Regiment

Defending units:
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
33rd Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
Cape St.Jaques Fortress
12th Base Force
109th JAAF AF Bn
104th/A Division
33rd Army
113th JAAF AF Bn
23rd AA Regiment
104th/C Division


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Our troops at Saigon are still in need of rest, and it will be at least 3 more days before the additional division and the para Rgt cross from the SE. They will likely have to make a shock attack as only an armoured Rgt crossed in that spot already. The Imperials at Saigon have recovered almost all their AV by the arrival of another unit, I think from Bien Hoa. Meanwhile tomorrow or the day after our armor will be arriving at Pakse. The big objective of that salient is to cut the rail lines to Ubon and Udon Thani from Bangkok.

There was a whole bunch of minor naval action as all remaining Imperial shipping at Saigon made a run to the east. None escaped. Stubborn Mogami was finally put down.

There was also some minor air action as the Empire made strikes in support of the retreat from Quinhon, against our shipping at and near Soc Trang (no hits), and on BB Washington (no hits). Washington is having trouble controlling flooding, and an additional DD is being sent from Cam Ranh Bay to help. We lost a 21 dive bombers on search, at least 18 to CAP!

One B-25D1 group that had no ground target (must have been destroyed, withdrew, or merged with another LCU) flew on its own dime to Samah and attacked the naval base force there. Maybe that will provide a little misdirection about our next target.

An overview of ground positions in Thailand and Indochina.




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RE: 1944 July 12 - 6/15/2015 6:03:19 AM   
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Here is Washington's position and course.




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RE: 1944 July 12 - 6/15/2015 6:04:15 AM   
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And for anyone who wants to see the various small battles today, here is the complete combat report.

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