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1944 August 05 - 8/18/2015 5:26:10 AM

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1944 August 05

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:

There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:

Imperial Naval Bombardments

Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Ulithi
Allied Ships Bombarding Ternate
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu

Our subs had more major lack of activity.

Our attack in China failed to make progress again. The B-24 strikes went in but were not particularly effective.

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Ground combat at 67,51 (near Mengtze)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16870 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 479

Defending force 4369 troops, 34 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 138

Allied adjusted assault: 145

Japanese adjusted defense: 823

Allied assault odds: 1 to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
424 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 56 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
3rd Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Cavalry Division
50th Chinese Corps
78th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
104th/B Division

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The ex-defenders of Mergui were finally retreated to Prachuap Khiri Khan.

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Ground combat at 53,63 (near Mergui)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12912 troops, 249 guns, 141 vehicles, Assault Value = 314

Defending force 3946 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 49

Allied adjusted assault: 277

Japanese adjusted defense: 61

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1107 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 10 (3 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Units retreated 6

Allied ground losses:
51 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
26th Indian Division

Defending units:
9th Infantry Regiment
91st JAAF AF Bn
8th Field Construction Battalion
311th Ship Eng Coy
8th JAAF AF Coy
9th JAAF AF Coy

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We have two divisions beginning to march across the river into Chiang Mai from the SE. Due to the slow railroad bed that will take a long time. About 20,000 troops are in Chiang Mai, 12,000 to the NE, and 38,000 to the E beyond them. Attacking them from behind will reduce the chances they can break out against the forces fortified to hold them in the pocket.

The cooks and clerks north of Udon Thani were pushed across the river by the TD Bn and the Tk Bn that joined them.

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Ground combat at 62,58 (near Udon Thani)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1242 troops, 6 guns, 212 vehicles, Assault Value = 189

Defending force 1568 troops, 11 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 4

Allied adjusted assault: 104

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 14 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
839 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 6 (5 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
711th Tank Battalion
706th Tank Battalion
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion

Defending units:
4th Naval Construction Battalion
41st JAAF AF Bn

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Both Tk Bn are now on site and all three armored units are pushing across the river at full speed in hopes of again dislodging the freshly shattered force. An increasing number of Val DB are operating out of Hanoi against our Tk and TD units near Vinh. Tomorrow the B-24 groups will hit Vinh aerodrome while full sweeps go in again. The small Thunderbolt I squadrons will not be able to participate for lack of supply at Pisanuloke.

Having reviewed the base building chart, we are somewhat over max engineers at Quinhon. That plus what will be a huge surplus in air support one or two days from now when the airfield reaches size 8 means we can (and we are) sending a base force plus an engineering unit to Hue to get fighter support at the front line around Vinh and move the medium bombers forward.

14th NZ Bde has made it to Miri, but will hold off attacking until the Torres Strait Bn reaches Beaufort (to prevent a retreat in that direction). Bandjermasin, Ternate, and Dili operations continue. Batavia has lost about half its Light Industry to our bombers 40(41).

Here is Indochina, et al.

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RE: 1944 August 05 - 8/18/2015 5:26:33 AM

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The Intel screen. We have made it past the 2 to 1 ratio in ground casualties.

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RE: 1944 August 05 - 8/18/2015 5:36:24 AM

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How are you AC pools holding up? Your air losses overall looks a little bit less then normal?

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RE: 1944 August 05 - 8/18/2015 5:46:21 PM

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How are you AC pools holding up? Your air losses overall looks a little bit less then normal?

Pools are, IMO, pretty decent. I'll post some stuff when I get a chance.

Basically, I had a very favorable loss ratio up until the last few months with heavy and continuous commitment of aircraft for ground attack. Fighter pools are good. I'm really trying to nurse along the P-47 types until we get the P-51D in two or three months. I still have one squadron each of B-17D (3 planes, will upgrade 1/3's soon), B-17E, and B-17F. I think just one of B-24D, multiple B-24D1. B-24J pools are just barely keeping pace with losses + upgrades as older types go extinct. B-29 production is not keeping up. I think there are two squadrons empty, plus 1 or 2 with only 1 plane, and a bunch under strength by various amounts, and I already disbanded all the B-29 squadrons that withdraw later. Some marks of B-25 are tight but some have plenty. Most of the Allied types are in good shape now, with recent boosts in first rate fighters in all air forces and the consequent lessening of A2A casualties for the bombers.

There is a lot less aerial opposition at the front than before the strategic bombing campaign started. Now only a few dozen fighters at Manila but almost 200 at Clark - basically a reversal. I think that means he has Kamikazes guarding against an invasion from that side. Little air at Singapore lately.

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RE: 1944 August 05 - 8/18/2015 6:22:20 PM

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Pools are, IMO, pretty decent. I'll post some stuff when I get a chance.

Basically, I had a very favorable loss ratio up until the last few months with heavy and continuous commitment of aircraft for ground attack. Fighter pools are good. I'm really trying to nurse along the P-47 types until we get the P-51D in two or three months. I still have one squadron each of B-17D (3 planes, will upgrade 1/3's soon), B-17E, and B-17F. I think just one of B-24D, multiple B-24D1. B-24J pools are just barely keeping pace with losses + upgrades as older types go extinct. B-29 production is not keeping up. I think there are two squadrons empty, plus 1 or 2 with only 1 plane, and a bunch under strength by various amounts, and I already disbanded all the B-29 squadrons that withdraw later. Some marks of B-25 are tight but some have plenty. Most of the Allied types are in good shape now, with recent boosts in first rate fighters in all air forces and the consequent lessening of A2A casualties for the bombers.

There is a lot less aerial opposition at the front than before the strategic bombing campaign started. Now only a few dozen fighters at Manila but almost 200 at Clark - basically a reversal. I think that means he has Kamikazes guarding against an invasion from that side. Little air at Singapore lately.

Sounds like you are on top of things!

Have you had the big squadron resizes happen yet? (can�t remember they date they happen) Some USAAF bomber squadrons resized to 16 and even 24 (only 2Es(?)). But that put a massive dent in both AC pools and most importantly bomber pilots! I trained way to many fighter pilots (had over 2000 fully trained at the end of the war) when I should have trained bomber pilots...

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RE: 1944 August 05 - 8/18/2015 7:15:54 PM

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Many have taken place already, but it looks like a big batch comes up in January '45. There are some here during the remainder of '44 and during other months of '45.

I know that many bomber squadrons will be flying with rookies. Many already are, assigned to partial training and partial ops. I seem to have plenty of USA fighters pilots, barely keeping up with USN (CVE always train their own rookies, reserve pool is kept for CV/CVL), USMC has plenty, and most allies are good. Commonwealth has no pilots per month at all so their Hellcat squadron (already one pilot short) will slowly wind down with losses. British have been most short of fighter pilots but I think they are OK now, but not by much. The first rate fighter planes available now are making that better and better as losses decline.

The hardest need to keep up with is for attack bomber pilots because losses are so high. If they train in more than just Low Ground then it takes forever to train them (say Low Ground, Low Naval, and Ground for bases that are just too tough for low strikes) nad they are lost very quickly when low strikes begin.

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RE: 1944 August 05 - 8/19/2015 6:17:10 AM

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Many have taken place already, but it looks like a big batch comes up in January '45. There are some here during the remainder of '44 and during other months of '45.

I know that many bomber squadrons will be flying with rookies. Many already are, assigned to partial training and partial ops. I seem to have plenty of USA fighters pilots, barely keeping up with USN (CVE always train their own rookies, reserve pool is kept for CV/CVL), USMC has plenty, and most allies are good. Commonwealth has no pilots per month at all so their Hellcat squadron (already one pilot short) will slowly wind down with losses. British have been most short of fighter pilots but I think they are OK now, but not by much. The first rate fighter planes available now are making that better and better as losses decline.

The hardest need to keep up with is for attack bomber pilots because losses are so high. If they train in more than just Low Ground then it takes forever to train them (say Low Ground, Low Naval, and Ground for bases that are just too tough for low strikes) nad they are lost very quickly when low strikes begin.

Might be a good idea to start training of bomber pilots in fighters. I�ve started doing this heavily sometime in 44 but probably should have begun earlier.

Personally I used some of the attack bombers on Low NAV only. The rest where used as level bombers. Low ground just caused too much losses. I never dual trained them but rather switched out the pilots if the moved between roles. I never dual train bomber pilots. Its a bit of a hassle moving pilots around if switched between roles but it saves months of time in training.

Despite everything I did at the end of the war my frontline 4E pilots were down to 35 EXP 50 GRND...from 50/70

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RE: 1944 August 05 - 8/19/2015 6:29:15 AM

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Those are good ideas.

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RE: 1944 August 05 - 8/19/2015 4:50:17 PM

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Are you feeling any pain in the 20K army losses?

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1944 August 06 - 8/19/2015 7:22:29 PM

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1944 August 06

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:

There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:

Imperial Naval Bombardments

Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Ternate
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu

Our subs had more nothing.

Quiet in China.

All maneuver for our SEAC ground troops as they 1) hold and extend the anvil trapping forces near Chiang Mai, 2) the hammer marches to cross the river into Chiang Mai, 3) move on Prachuap Khiri Khan, 4) move to trap enemy in Prachuap Khiri Khan, and 5) other, general movement of forces and support units. The Bde and Rgt for Victoria Point, although 40& and 52% prepared, have been ordered to load on LSI(L) at Rangoon. They will be accompanied to their target by carriers and battleships as soon as they are loaded.

The combined SEAC/SWPac effort against Hanoi went very well. There was less fighter opposition than on the first day of sweeps, and P-38 groups from Quinhon and Moulmein destroyed the greater amount of what they found in the air. Later sweepers found no opposition. In between, the B-24 groups found only a little and dispatched it, and destroyed even more aircraft on the ground than were shot down during the entire day. The airfield currently scouts as 36% damaged but is likely much worse off. The P-47 & P-51 groups (4 total) will sweep Lao Cai and the B-24 groups will hit the airfield there.

As for the other combined effort, recon of industrial targets in China is ramping up and other recon assets moving up to get within range. The airfield at Quinhon will make size 8 tomorrow, so the day after that is the first possible date for starting. Getting all the SEAC B-24 groups in there will require moving out most or all of the fighters and other bombers until the field is built to size 9, but that should only take a few additional days.

On the SWPac side of Indochina and Thailand, we obligingly destroyed an AA unit so it can be rebuilt in Japan.

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Ground combat at 60,67 (near Kompong Chhnang)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8979 troops, 138 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 257

Defending force 95 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 63

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 63 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
124 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
11th Airborne Division

Defending units:
23rd AA Regiment

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Our armor made 44 miles toward crossing the river into Vientiane. Now they will cross in combat mode and be more effective. Most of the pursuers has caught the enemy north of Battambang and will attack tomorrow. That is the group being herded toward Ayuthia.

The Empire is strengthening their position SE of Vinh, which is a good thing given our plans.

It looks like 3 more days for the 158th to arrive at Bandjermasin, 2 days for Torres Strait Bn to make Beaufort, and the 14th Bde (NZ) will bombard Miri tomorrow to assess the opposition. 3D bombardment of Ternate continues. Call it 3 days until the next attack at Dili (when the Ind Coy arrives), and the 30th Aus Bde continues recovering AV.

Finally got enough PP to buy out the USA 98th Inf Div at San Francisco. They are fully prepared for Tokunoshima, part of the Okinawa campaign.

Indochina, et al.

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RE: 1944 August 06 - 8/19/2015 7:28:36 PM

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Are you feeling any pain in the 20K army losses?

I don't think so. Some large (but exactly unknown to me) part of that is the greater portion of the Chinese Army that was wiped out. I've still got some USA units taking squads but that's the only pool that's behind except for the pools where replacements are just a trickle anyway (like British infantry squads).

Except in China, I feel I did pretty well in limiting catastrophic ground losses during the Dark Days. When a major invasion goes in I do see Allied ground loss points spike a bit, so I know there will be more.

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1944 August 07 - 8/21/2015 7:12:25 PM

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1944 August 07

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:
Vientiane

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:

There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:

Imperial Naval Bombardments

Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Ulithi
Allied Ships Bombarding Ternate
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu

Our subs are heading to the Atlantic where there is more enemy seagoing traffic.

Quiet in China.

All maneuvering and air strikes for SEAC this day. The Victoria Point invasion forces have loaded and will move out. Barring refueling for the short-legged mine sweeper, looks like two days to arrive vicinity VP and invasion the following day. Today was D-3 (perhaps D-4). Although movement continues SE from Vinh to the forward enemy position, the movement at that position is now moving into Vinh.

The sweeps and strikes on Lao Cai went well but the opposition was tough. See today's air losses below. Lao Cai shows 53% AF damage/9 fighters/10 bombers/10 auxiliary. Hanoi shows 43% AF damage/0 fighters/38 bombers/0 auxiliary. The three B-24 groups that will not yes fit at Quinhon (see below) plus the two B-17 groups, and various marks of Allies' Liberators will fly form Moulmein and hit the airfield at Hanoi tomorrow.

Quinhon will take either 5 or 6 days to build to size 9 aerodrome and can presently handle 12 groups. The weather tomorrow is predicted partly cloudy over targets, so 11x B-24 groups will move in and everything else but the flying boats will move out. CVE will move up from Cam Ranh Bay to provide fighter cover until fighters can move back. The B-24 at Quinhon are ordered to strike Light Industry at Hong Kong tomorrow. For whatever reason, the recon of Changsha did not fly today, so the B-29 at Moulmein will join in striking Light Industry at Hong Kong. With 221 operating there is plenty for everybody.

Three successful attacks by SWPac for in Indochina, but as with air opposition over Lao Cai the enemy was stubborn today. Near Battambang most Imperials were routed, but one unit maintained cohesion and remains on the field. Tomorrow all but the USA 32nd Inf Div will attack again. The armored units crossing the river in battle formation smashed into the cooks and clerks at Vientiane and pushed them out of that city, but have disruption of 37 and 38%. Tomorrow they will pursue at full speed regardless. Near Pakse an Imperial support unit caught behind our lines for weeks was finally destroyed, but it took a full Inf Rgt with an Arm Rgt to do it. The victors will race to Vinh.

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Ground combat at 58,64 (near Battambang)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26434 troops, 357 guns, 404 vehicles, Assault Value = 885

Defending force 6738 troops, 66 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 67

Allied adjusted assault: 398

Japanese adjusted defense: 49

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3063 casualties reported
Squads: 91 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 73 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 33 (31 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (4 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2nd Australian Division
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
32nd Infantry Division
2/6th Armoured Regiment
4th Armoured Brigade

Defending units:
9th Division
25th Army
26th Air Flotilla
20th AA Regiment
29th JNAF AF Unit
59th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at Vientiane (62,57)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1968 troops, 9 guns, 342 vehicles, Assault Value = 193

Defending force 1050 troops, 8 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Allied adjusted assault: 126

Japanese adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 31 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Vientiane !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), leaders(+), disruption(-)
preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
329 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 24 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (4 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
706th Tank Battalion
711th Tank Battalion
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion

Defending units:
4th Naval Construction Battalion
41st JAAF AF Bn

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Ground combat at 64,62 (near Pakse)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4929 troops, 74 guns, 132 vehicles, Assault Value = 196

Defending force 404 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 84

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 84 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
521 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 35 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
2/4th Armoured Regiment
27th Australian Brigade

Defending units:
28th Air Flotilla

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A base force and engineering unit have arrived at Hue so building of the (currently size 1(7)) airfield will commence. Short range recon had already moved in and were joined today by P-47D2 from Cam Ranh Bay and F4U-1 from Quinhon.

One more day each for units moving to arrive at Beaufort and Dili, and one or two days for arrival at Bandjermasin. Two enemy units have appeared just NE of Samarinda, probably from Tarakan/Tandjoengselor. We have a commando Bn at Samarinda. Intel by bombardment of Miri.

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Ground combat at Miri (64,87)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4463 troops, 42 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 156

Defending force 2143 troops, 7 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 51

Assaulting units:
14th NZ Brigade

Defending units:
553rd Ind.Infantry Battalion
97th JAAF AF Bn

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RE: 1944 August 07 - 8/21/2015 7:12:52 PM

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Today's air losses.

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RE: 1944 August 07 - 8/21/2015 7:13:14 PM

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The overview map.

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1944 August 08 - 8/21/2015 11:27:22 PM

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1944 August 08

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:
Beaufort

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:

There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:

Imperial Naval Bombardments

Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Ternate
Allied Ships Bombarding Ulithi
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu

Our subs seem rather idle.

Quiet in China.

Status quo in SEAC. Victoria Point convoy is on schedule. A Bn has made it to Prachuap Khiri Khan but would probably be overwhelmed if they attack alone. Friends are several days behind. Lao Cai shows 63% airfield damage. Hanoi was hit very hard and shows 72% airfield damage already. 11 supply hits were had there overall, a nice haul. The B-24 variants will move on to hit Lang Son airfield (size 1) to interfere will groups that have been railed there making ready and flying out.

The Light Industry strikes on Hong Kong went very well. As there are so few AA guns the B-29 were ordered to 10,000 ft with the B-24 and there was little flak damage. Weather was but b number of hits were achieved and recon shows 84x LI damaged at the end of the day, so likely more damage will show up tomorrow. The B-29 will hit LI again while the B-24 switch to HI. There are 79 bombers lining the airfield, a tempting target! Quinhon only built to 16% toward size 9 and so will take at least 10 more days to max out.

The hold-out HQ north of Battambang was routed toward Ayuthia, our troops are now pursuing the whole stack.

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Ground combat at 58,64 (near Battambang)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 14789 troops, 158 guns, 361 vehicles, Assault Value = 886

Defending force 1486 troops, 0 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 499

Japanese adjusted defense: 3

Allied assault odds: 166 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
939 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 43 destroyed, 44 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 23 (7 destroyed, 16 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2/6th Armoured Regiment
2nd Australian Division
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
32nd Infantry Division
4th Armoured Brigade

Defending units:
25th Army

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The armor at Vientiane is moving a bit slowly and will catch the retreating cooks & clerks in two days. West of Vinh a TD Bn has joined the Tk Bn and both will attack the Imperial armour tomorrow.

The last Imperials at Beaufort were done in by air strikes so the Torres Strait Bn found a welcoming city. First attack at Miri tomorrow. Next attack at Dili tomorrow, in concert with a naval bombardment and continued air strikes.

Reductions of Ternate and Ulithi continue.

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RE: 1944 August 08 - 8/21/2015 11:27:42 PM

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Hong Kong.

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RE: 1944 August 08 - 8/22/2015 3:13:39 AM

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Are you going straight at Okinawa or moving up Chinese coast first? And yes I read yours also.:)

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RE: 1944 August 08 - 8/22/2015 3:32:02 AM

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Are you going straight at Okinawa or moving up Chinese coast first? And yes I read yours also.:)

Straight to Okinawa, although I am taking Daito Shoto also and haven't 100% decided whether or not I will hit that first. Either way it will be a number of weeks as some carriers have not even quite made it to Pearl for repairs and upgrades.

The SWPac drive up the Indochina coast into China will continue independently. The invasion of Formosa is still in early preparation by the units assigned and will take place after Okinawa.

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RE: 1944 August 08 - 8/22/2015 1:06:34 PM

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Gutsy. My only advice...don't take a right at Albuquerque (really really really dating myself)

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RE: 1944 August 08 - 8/22/2015 1:10:02 PM

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Gutsy. My only advice...don't take a right at Albuquerque (really really really dating myself)

I suppose I am old too because I know what the reference means ;]

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RE: 1944 August 08 - 8/22/2015 2:45:56 PM

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LOL, I was going to say name the reference, but you already know it!

And since I live in Albuquerque, it has double meaning.

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RE: 1944 August 08 - 8/22/2015 3:43:39 PM

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I haven't been thinking it's gutsy because of the naval superiority the Allies have at the moment, including carriers. Other bases are far enough away that with Naha and Nago suppressed the kamikaze threat should be greatly reduced. Daito Shoto can actually be shut down by B-29 strike from the Marianas (in terms of the strategic value of seizing the Okinawa region, a day or two of the B-29 groups to hit Daito Shoto airfield is a good use of the B-29 IMO). That will preserve the limited naval bombardment loads available to such an expedition for use against Okinawa (reloads are a long way!).

The fly in the ointment at present is how much naval power do I have to leave in the South China Sea to engage the IJN when it sallies from Singapore with whatever it can?

OK, a little gutsy.

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RE: 1944 August 08 - 8/22/2015 3:45:19 PM

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Gutsy. My only advice...don't take a right at Albuquerque (really really really dating myself)

I suppose I am old too because I know what the reference means ;]

I couldn't remember and I had to look it up. Bugs!

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RE: 1944 August 08 - 8/22/2015 3:45:31 PM

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Makes for good ratings, which leads to more advertisers.

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RE: 1944 August 08 - 8/22/2015 4:41:58 PM

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I haven't been thinking it's gutsy because of the naval superiority the Allies have at the moment, including carriers. Other bases are far enough away that with Naha and Nago suppressed the kamikaze threat should be greatly reduced. Daito Shoto can actually be shut down by B-29 strike from the Marianas (in terms of the strategic value of seizing the Okinawa region, a day or two of the B-29 groups to hit Daito Shoto airfield is a good use of the B-29 IMO). That will preserve the limited naval bombardment loads available to such an expedition for use against Okinawa (reloads are a long way!).

The fly in the ointment at present is how much naval power do I have to leave in the South China Sea to engage the IJN when it sallies from Singapore with whatever it can?

OK, a little gutsy.

Must have good game!

Can the IJN available at Singapore do anything that will be decisive? Any commitment that requires at least one day's sailing will expose the IJN to your LBA in the South China Sea. You can station subs where you anticipate the IJN will be subjected to air attacks to cull out wounded ships. This will allow you to commit limited surface ships to defense of the South China Sea. You do not have to destroy the IJN. You only have to prevent it from intervening decisively.

The farther away from Singapore that you conduct operations the more chance you have for air attacks on the IJN. So anything you do along the South China coast, Hainan, Formosa or Okinawa should draw the IJN into the South China Sea. With proper awareness and preparation you should view the presence of the IJN at Singapore as an opportunity instead of something that limits your actions. Where can the IJN retire from battle with damaged ships that is safe from air attacks? Will there be fuel for the ships at retirement locations? Looking at the strategic map there are few bases that the IJN can safely retire to, and fewer yet with fuel that can be replenished.

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RE: 1944 August 08 - 8/22/2015 5:11:57 PM

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I haven't been thinking it's gutsy because of the naval superiority the Allies have at the moment, including carriers. Other bases are far enough away that with Naha and Nago suppressed the kamikaze threat should be greatly reduced. Daito Shoto can actually be shut down by B-29 strike from the Marianas (in terms of the strategic value of seizing the Okinawa region, a day or two of the B-29 groups to hit Daito Shoto airfield is a good use of the B-29 IMO). That will preserve the limited naval bombardment loads available to such an expedition for use against Okinawa (reloads are a long way!).

The fly in the ointment at present is how much naval power do I have to leave in the South China Sea to engage the IJN when it sallies from Singapore with whatever it can?

OK, a little gutsy.

Must have good game!

Can the IJN available at Singapore do anything that will be decisive? Any commitment that requires at least one day's sailing will expose the IJN to your LBA in the South China Sea. You can station subs where you anticipate the IJN will be subjected to air attacks to cull out wounded ships. This will allow you to commit limited surface ships to defense of the South China Sea. You do not have to destroy the IJN. You only have to prevent it from intervening decisively.

The farther away from Singapore that you conduct operations the more chance you have for air attacks on the IJN. So anything you do along the South China coast, Hainan, Formosa or Okinawa should draw the IJN into the South China Sea. With proper awareness and preparation you should view the presence of the IJN at Singapore as an opportunity instead of something that limits your actions. Where can the IJN retire from battle with damaged ships that is safe from air attacks? Will there be fuel for the ships at retirement locations? Looking at the strategic map there are few bases that the IJN can safely retire to, and fewer yet with fuel that can be replenished.

Excellent points. My original plan for the Cam Ranh Bay operation still applies: essentially an air (and very limited surface) blockade of the South China Sea. What I've really been thinking about more recently is the amount of Allied convoy traffic to CRB to support the extension to planned operations there. Naval strike aircraft at CRB and Jesselton, plus surrounding bases, will nicely fulfill the air power part of the original plan, and some CL-centered groups for the rest.

There are two things different from what I anticipated. The first is a major part of the IJN fleet being trapped to the south. This is a good problem to have!

The second is the greater amount of Allies' SLOC traffic because of the far, far greater supply needs of the SWPac offensive in Indochina and into China. Also, because of the way supply flows, SEAC forces away from the coast of Burma (Bangkok, for example) are now pulling supply from CRB. So the mission was to be 'blockade the South China Sea' but is now that plus 'protect frequent supply convoys through the South China Sea'. SWPac troop movements through the South China Sea will now be more occasional and can be escorted specifically so are not really a concern.

I am thinking about leaving a number of CVE to bolster naval strike capability. Saigon is already repairing DD, CLAA, CVE, and subs (modern CL are too large for yard repairs). We should be able to use subs very effectively there due to the heavy search coverage. I think we'll be able to get in the Kuching invasion before more of the fleet departs. That will start to put more pressure on Singapore and put troops shipments into Singapore from Java and Sumatra in jeopardy.

So, yes, the majority of the fleet will be able to leave the South China Sea, and most of the fleet already has left. I want to make certain all the right pieces are in place before the fleet moves on Okinawa, because then it will be absolutely clear to analysts at DAW HQ what USN assets are no longer in the South China Sea, because they will be getting hammered off of Okinawa!

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RE: 1944 August 08 - 8/23/2015 6:02:26 AM

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A current ships sunk report, giving an idea of the bite that's been taken out of the IJN. The Empire has not been advertising the fruits of its ship construction program, so current capabilities of IJN battle fleet elements in home waters is unknown.

Text file attached, open it then maximize it to make the columns line up.

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1944 August 09 - 8/26/2015 5:00:16 PM

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1944 August 09

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:

There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:

Imperial Naval Bombardments

Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu
Allied Ships Bombarding Babar
Allied Ships Bombarding Dili
Allied Ships Bombarding Ternate
Allied Ships Bombarding Ulithi
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu

Our subs - nothing.

Quiet in China.

Continued maneuvering for SEAC forces on the ground. The invasion armada has been spotted off of Victoria Point. Tonight they move the last hex and begin unloading.

Lang Son airfield was overwhelmed, with 10 Franks destroyed on the ground. As anticipated there was no CAP, only aircraft being repaired to evacuate (it's the end of the rail line in Indochina). With 47% damage showing now, our bombers will hit the airfield until recon can't find it. The three B-24 groups operating from Moulmein will switch to striking Lao Cai airfield, which might still be able to operate fighters and evacuate groups.

None of the industrial strikes flew against Hong Kong. The weather at Quinhon was horrible while it was at least marginal over the target. The B-29 and B-24 groups will remain with their respective targets. Rain is forecast tomorrow so expectations are low.

The armored units' attack west of Vinh went well even though the odds were poor.

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Ground combat at 64,59 (near Vinh)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 696 troops, 3 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 121

Defending force 1462 troops, 10 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 47

Allied adjusted assault: 7

Japanese adjusted defense: 46

Allied assault odds: 1 to 6

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 20 (2 destroyed, 18 disabled)

Assaulting units:
775th Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion

Defending units:
10th Tank Regiment
52nd JNAF AF Unit

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Another day for the armor at Vientiane to catch the units near Luangprabang, and the infantry divisions are now making their turn through Vientiane. Contact is made SE of Vinh, and after heavy artillery arrives bombardments will begin.

First attack at Miri went well and will continue. Today's attack at Dili made good progress despite poor odds and not piercing the fortifications.

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Ground combat at Miri (64,87)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4481 troops, 42 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 155

Defending force 2127 troops, 7 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 51

Allied adjusted assault: 61

Japanese adjusted defense: 19

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
226 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
14th NZ Brigade

Defending units:
553rd Ind.Infantry Battalion
97th JAAF AF Bn

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Ground combat at Dili (71,115)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4784 troops, 69 guns, 90 vehicles, Assault Value = 127

Defending force 5607 troops, 52 guns, 39 vehicles, Assault Value = 98

Allied adjusted assault: 95

Japanese adjusted defense: 277

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), morale(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
220 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
2/2nd Ind Coy
30th Australian Brigade
Provisional GMC Grp

Defending units:
2nd Recon Regiment
57th Infantry Regiment
24th Nav Gsn Unit
47th JNAF AF Unit

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The USA 158th IR will attack at Bandjermasin tomorrow. The Light Industry hits at Batavia are adding up and those strikes will continue.

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1944 August 10 - 8/28/2015 5:11:01 AM

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1944 August 10

The Empire captured:

The Allies captured:
Miri

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:

There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Victoria Point

Imperial Naval Bombardments

Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu
Allied Ships Bombarding Ulithi
Allied Ships Bombarding Ternate
Allied Ships Bombarding Peleliu

Our subs yada yada yada.

Quiet in China.

Even though the landing at Victoria Point had very minor opposition, our units took a lot of disablements due to their only ~50% preparation.

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Ground combat at Victoria Point (51,66)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1176 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 49

Defending force 5091 troops, 78 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 127

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
5th INA Regiment

Defending units:
475th USA Regiment
46th Indian Brigade

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I'll give them one day to see how many squads they recover, then they will attack in concert with a battleship bombardment. The day after tomorrow all pursuing units will be in position to attack between Battambang and Ayuthia. Likewise, in two days there will be a river crossing from the SE into Chiang Mai.

Several aircraft destroyed on the ground at Lao Cai as that base and Lang Son continue receiving suppression strikes.

Lots of LI hits (18) and HI hits (56) at Hong Kong. Still no recon of Changsha! A second recon flight is being assigned to try and remedy that. Tomorrow the B-29 will stay with Hong Kong LI while the B-24 move on to Canton HI (extended range for them).

Whatever unit swap Imperial units were performing between Vinh and SE of there has been completed. Our units there are facing one unidentified unit that is somewhat larger than Bde size and will recon by fire tomorrow. Armor has caught the Imperials between Vientiane and Luangprabang and will attack tomorrow. The next attack west of Vinh will be tomorrow as well.

Miri is ours, but the defenders retreated SE, toward Sandakan, in which direction they are now moving. I thought it was too far for that, and now they are astride Allied bases that I wish to defend minimally. The reduction of Bandjermasin got off to a good enough start, but I forgot to air drop in the parachute capable artillery unit to assist. They will go in the next attack, although presently only 59% prepared.

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Ground combat at Miri (64,87)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4415 troops, 42 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 146

Defending force 1885 troops, 7 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Allied adjusted assault: 119

Japanese adjusted defense: 27

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Miri !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
656 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 25 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
14th NZ Brigade

Defending units:
553rd Ind.Infantry Battalion
97th JAAF AF Bn

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Ground combat at Bandjermasin (60,99)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3547 troops, 48 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 113

Defending force 1727 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Allied adjusted assault: 43

Japanese adjusted defense: 67

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
158th(Sep) Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
Kure 2nd SNLF

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First day of recon makes Kuching look abandoned.

Reduction of Ternate, Ulithi, and minor outposts continues. Next attack at Dili is tomorrow.

The last four Essex class carriers began upgrades today.

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