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Silvermist, Pirates and reputation - 12/3/2011 1:22:09 AM   
MasterChief


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Status: offline 		Viewing DAS123’s “DW Legends: Collaborative Video AAR” and I was impressed with the monumental struggle against the Silvermist. The question is, shouldn’t reputation get a significant boost for defeating Silvermist scourges? We get a rep. boost for clearing out pirates and the Silvermist is an even greater menace to the galaxy

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RE: Silvermist, Pirates and reputation - 12/3/2011 2:29:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree... though the whole "pirate killing to boost rep" should have a cap at satisfactory. Meaning a bad empire can get neutral through that, but not noble.

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RE: Silvermist, Pirates and reputation - 12/3/2011 3:23:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can't even remember the last time I saw an empire having a negative reputation. Worse I've seen is dubious, and that was myself after bombarding a few planets.

Think I'm going to go watch that AAR. I want to see how bad the silvermist gets. I've only encountered one so far.

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RE: Silvermist, Pirates and reputation - 12/3/2011 7:42:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nedrear

I agree... though the whole "pirate killing to boost rep" should have a cap at satisfactory. Meaning a bad empire can get neutral through that, but not noble.


Seems too procrustean - I suggest diminishing returns as the overall bonus increases well above what reputation would otherwise be on the merits. Even an occasional good deed can be spun into good PR, but a major rehabilitation of reputation can only go so far for evil.

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RE: Silvermist, Pirates and reputation - 12/3/2011 7:52:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Seems like some self restraint is necessary. If you don't want the reputation boost don't go destroying pirate bases. Personally I feel that reputation gained through gifting etc. is dodgier than the pirate bonus. Either of them I can live with by not doing.

On the topic of the original post I'm happy enough with the Silvermist not giving a reputation boost. If we go that way will we get it for all creatures, including space slugs? If not, where to draw the line. I like the fact that the computer doesn't seem to recognise the severity of the Silvermist threat and in fact practically makes it worse by feeding it up. Forces the player to intervene, lose some ships, and maybe even lose the game... oh yeah, uh huh, give to me.

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RE: Silvermist, Pirates and reputation - 12/3/2011 10:10:40 AM   
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I like the fact that the computer doesn't seem to recognise the severity of the Silvermist threat and in fact practically makes it worse by feeding it up. Forces the player to intervene, lose some ships, and maybe even lose the game... oh yeah, uh huh, give to me.


Both agree and disagree with this
The extra challenge is good, but from what I've read, it can be common for Silvermist to cripple the AI to the point of actually winning the game for the player if they have already teched up enough to wipe it out

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RE: Silvermist, Pirates and reputation - 12/3/2011 10:39:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		You only get reputation from destroying Pirate bases, and they are very easy to defeat. Add a Fighter bay and 2-3 extra shields to the stations and you dont even need patrols.

But a Silvermist is a danger for your colonies, and a fighter bay isn't enough to stop them. And the bad thing are, i think they warp to other system too.
Good think they arn't that hard to defeat IMO, a Carrier with 4+ fighter bays can do the job, just let the fighter stay out of the fight and let the fighter do the job.
Later you can design a fast ship with EMP and repair bot to do the job too.


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RE: Silvermist, Pirates and reputation - 12/3/2011 3:59:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: feelotraveller

Seems like some self restraint is necessary. If you don't want the reputation boost don't go destroying pirate bases. Personally I feel that reputation gained through gifting etc. is dodgier than the pirate bonus. Either of them I can live with by not doing.

On the topic of the original post I'm happy enough with the Silvermist not giving a reputation boost. If we go that way will we get it for all creatures, including space slugs? If not, where to draw the line. I like the fact that the computer doesn't seem to recognise the severity of the Silvermist threat and in fact practically makes it worse by feeding it up. Forces the player to intervene, lose some ships, and maybe even lose the game... oh yeah, uh huh, give to me.


Agree to your first point. I don’t RP the pirate hunting crusader. I only swat pirates when they are interfering with an ally or me . If I get a rep. bonus for that, so be it. I also am a little skeptical of rep bonuses for gifts… Unless later patches allows for techs that can mitigate plagues; then you should receive a bonus for humanitarian (for lack of a better word… no offense attended to our other race families) efforts if you freely give the tech away .

I disagree on your second point. Silvermist is not a slug or kaltor that threatens an explorer or two (only if entering their extremely small territorial boundaries)… it is a space creature that has been bumped up to “event” status and rightly so. It can and will take down capital ships, bases and colonies and replicates to the point that if unchecked will spread and rid the galaxy of all life!! I would think that deserves a slightly stronger response from the societies populating said galaxy. Maybe even a pat on the back of anyone that eliminates this threat.

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