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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 3:06:34 AM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 3:24:57 AM   
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I don't use it much anymore, but I have a Paypal account from when I sold a lot on Ebay.  We can use my account if you want.  I can post the totals so everyone knows what we have.  Paypal does the currency conversion for you.  I might even be able to set things up to accept funds in Australian dollars.  I'll have to check on that.

For alcohol we would probably need to use someone in country to buy it.  Shipping alcohol internationally can get a bit weird.  I know Australia has very strict policies on food imports.  Customs won't even allow boxes that might have been used for any kind of agricultural product into the country.  I believe Michael is in Sydney.  If we have someone in Sydney, that would be great.  If not, I have a friend just outside of Melbourne who owes me a favor or two.

If we want to send something else that can be easily obtained in the States, I know the drill for international shipping.  With my Ebay business I shipped to every continent except Antarctica.  I can do it in my sleep.

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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 3:28:09 AM   
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I think the best solution would be to get one of the former Devs to contact Joe Wilkerson to get Michaels Address and he sends it to the person who lives in Australia that way we can keep it simple. Then we send the money via paypal to him and he sends the present to michael. If you guys need any help setting the paypal account i can help out.

There are online Australian booze delivery companies too ... Anyway, I'm in for a penny

Of course this could lead to some disagreement about the best Single Malt Scotch out there .. I go with the Macallan 12 / 24 year.


Yeah, that would be the easiest way to do it and would mean shipping doesn't cost too much, plus they usually deliver, which I imagine would be safer than having to rely on the post.

Try one of these:

https://www.vintagecellars.com.au/vce2e/Pages/default.aspx

http://danmurphys.com.au/dm/home.jsp

https://www.liquorlanddirect.com.au/lle2e/Pages/default.aspx

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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 3:34:07 AM   
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People are going to think Michael is a hardcore alcoholic.

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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 3:35:49 AM   
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I think this is a great idea.

I don't use it much anymore, but I have a Paypal account from when I sold a lot on Ebay.  We can use my account if you want.  I can post the totals so everyone knows what we have.  Paypal does the currency conversion for you.  I might even be able to set things up to accept funds in Australian dollars.  I'll have to check on that.

For alcohol we would probably need to use someone in country to buy it.  Shipping alcohol internationally can get a bit weird.  I know Australia has very strict policies on food imports.  Customs won't even allow boxes that might have been used for any kind of agricultural product into the country.  I believe Michael is in Sydney.  If we have someone in Sydney, that would be great.  If not, I have a friend just outside of Melbourne who owes me a favor or two.

If we want to send something else that can be easily obtained in the States, I know the drill for international shipping.  With my Ebay business I shipped to every continent except Antarctica.  I can do it in my sleep.

Bill



The exchange rate has been hovering around parity with the US dollar for a while, currently 1 Australian dollar is equal to 1.02195 US dollars, so probably isn't too much of a problem or neccasary to worry about it too much.

Edit: See here for rules on importing alcohol http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/AlcoholandTobaccoFactSheet.pdf We do have strict laws regarding importing meat, fruit or vegetables, because we do not have many pests and diseases here like mad cow, but alcohol is pretty safe in that regard. However the government taxes all alcohol, which is why there are added restrictions to stop people avoiding the tax.


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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 3:43:19 AM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 3:56:15 AM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 4:14:13 AM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 4:19:35 AM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 4:31:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: wdolson

I think this is a great idea.

I don't use it much anymore, but I have a Paypal account from when I sold a lot on Ebay.  We can use my account if you want.  I can post the totals so everyone knows what we have.  Paypal does the currency conversion for you.  I might even be able to set things up to accept funds in Australian dollars.  I'll have to check on that.

For alcohol we would probably need to use someone in country to buy it.  Shipping alcohol internationally can get a bit weird.  I know Australia has very strict policies on food imports.  Customs won't even allow boxes that might have been used for any kind of agricultural product into the country.  I believe Michael is in Sydney.  If we have someone in Sydney, that would be great.  If not, I have a friend just outside of Melbourne who owes me a favor or two.

If we want to send something else that can be easily obtained in the States, I know the drill for international shipping.  With my Ebay business I shipped to every continent except Antarctica.  I can do it in my sleep.

Bill



Hey Bill, thanks. Are you ok with hosting the account then? If you don't want to, I'm ok to do it too. I have a paypal account - never used it for something like this, but it should be straightforward. This should be pretty easy actually if we just go with one of those links that noguarantee sent and then we can just order it online from an Australian company. This one has a ton of whiskey (don't ask me what's good, but I'm sure some people here must know):

http://danmurphys.com.au/dm/home.jsp

We should probably order it in time to arrive for Christmas. If he's in Sydney, it says 2-4 days shipping, but we should probably get it off within a week or so because they are probably busy over the holidays.

Maybe say something like this?:

"Thanks for all your hard work! You devoted fans from around the world all chipped in to show their appreciation. Merry Christmas from the War in the Pacific AE forum." (or whatever wording, if people want to suggest any)

Now, how do we get his address? Does anyone on the forum have any ideas on this? Does anyone know his full name? Maybe we can look it up in a Sydney online phone directory? But that could be dicey. Is he connected with Matrix?

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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 4:52:59 AM   
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Just checked and there are a half dozen M McFarland's in the phone book, so would have to ask someone who knows.


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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 4:55:08 AM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 5:06:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rader

Now, how do we get his address? Does anyone on the forum have any ideas on this? Does anyone know his full name? Maybe we can look it up in a Sydney online phone directory? But that could be dicey. Is he connected with Matrix?

John said up near the top that he could arrange the delivery.

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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 5:06:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Now we need the address. wdolson can you get his address somehow ?

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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 5:39:55 AM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 7:35:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: noguaranteeofsanity

The exchange rate has been hovering around parity with the US dollar for a while, currently 1 Australian dollar is equal to 1.02195 US dollars, so probably isn't too much of a problem or neccasary to worry about it too much.

Edit: See here for rules on importing alcohol http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/AlcoholandTobaccoFactSheet.pdf We do have strict laws regarding importing meat, fruit or vegetables, because we do not have many pests and diseases here like mad cow, but alcohol is pretty safe in that regard. However the government taxes all alcohol, which is why there are added restrictions to stop people avoiding the tax.



I was thinking about cutting down on the losses. Every time you exchange a currency, the bank, credit card co, or Paypal take a cut. If the donations were received in Aus dollars, then they could be used directly to buy something in Aus.

I think ordering something in Aus to be delivered in Aus is the best option. I don't have his address, but I know who does, and JWE is probably thinking along the same lines.

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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 8:25:03 AM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 8:35:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: che200

I think the best solution would be to get one of the former Devs to contact Joe Wilkerson to get Michaels Address and he sends it to the person who lives in Australia that way we can keep it simple. Then we send the money via paypal to him and he sends the present to michael. If you guys need any help setting the paypal account i can help out.

There are online Australian booze delivery companies too ... Anyway, I'm in for a penny

Of course this could lead to some disagreement about the best Single Malt Scotch out there .. I go with the Macallan 12 / 24 year.



We are asuming that he drinks Scotch - probably a safe bet - so perhaps a smother choice than Laphroaig. Perhaps a Dalwhinie 15, although an older Macallan may be the trick.

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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 8:55:05 AM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 9:59:05 AM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 10:34:51 AM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 11:23:00 AM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 3:01:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Should we pool the money together via Bill and figure out how much we have to play with? The idea of shipping though an Australian company sounds like a great idea for our money to go the furthest unless someone lives close and is able to deliver.



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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 3:13:07 PM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 3:16:07 PM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 4:41:53 PM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 4:44:08 PM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 4:56:02 PM   
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I was thinking about cutting down on the losses. Every time you exchange a currency, the bank, credit card co, or Paypal take a cut. If the donations were received in Aus dollars, then they could be used directly to buy something in Aus.

I think ordering something in Aus to be delivered in Aus is the best option. I don't have his address, but I know who does, and JWE is probably thinking along the same lines.

Bill

I am thinking along precisely the same lines. I've seen this before, where everybody wants to get together and do something, but everyone goes off on a different tangent and nothing ends up happening. So I have a proposal.

1) One of us, and I nominate Wdolson because I know he is a straight up person and won't screw this up, opens a simple deposit account, or creates a separate ledger entry in their own account.
2) Anybody wanting to contribute sends that person (Bill) a check (cheque). None of this paypal crap or other tech nonsense guaranteed to get you off the hook; put a damn check in the mail and send it to Bill, and make it out to Bill. And Bill will deposit it (and I know he will, because I trust him).
3) Bank deposits are at date-of-deposit currency conversion rates, so one can send a check for Dollars, Euros, Zlotys, Rubles or Sheckels. No worries.
4) Openly post a cut-off date. Any checks received after that date will be destroyed (and I know Bill will do that, because I trust him).
5) After the cut-off date, Bill sends Michael an email that says "In recognition of your exemplary support of the WiTP-AE Game and User Community." along with a list of contributor's names.
6) And then it's like user's choice; wire transfer, Bank Check; the "means" are endless. Michael gets a well deserved encomium that he can use as he wishes.

A very simple thing. Send the "designated depositor" a simple check for maybe US $5.00 (or equivalent, or more) and have faith that it will go to where it needs to. I suggest Bill because he is universally accepted as an honest citizen here. I'll be glad to help him if he wants. Send a PM to the "designated depositor", saying who you are and they will send you a name to put in the Payee field, and an address to send it to.

If Bill is ok with this, he will say so.



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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 5:15:58 PM   
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RE: Question (no Michaelm please) - 12/4/2011 5:28:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		My bank doesn't even issue cheques..and also in Finland they have not been used in 20 yrs... So that option is not available for me. So, lets use PayPal. I don't mind paying bit of exchange charges for good cause.

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