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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/11/2011 9:11:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's a picture of the final state of my galaxy. My four light-blue colonies are represented by 3 circles: lower-left-center; two colonies forming one circle in the middle of the galaxy; and my new moon, northeast of that. Next time I think I'll pick a color that stands out a bit more.




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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/11/2011 9:27:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		That was a very interesting AAR - please more.

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/11/2011 9:37:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Glad you guys enjoyed it!

I have to run an errand, but when I get back, I'll post a couple of my research screens and characters. I have a question about research I'd like to ask.

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/11/2011 9:53:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, Grotius! Well done, overall. Enjoyed it very much.

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/11/2011 11:26:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, Grisha!

OK, here's my question about research. Was I researching at my maximum capacity? Do I sum up my three red numbers (359K, 196K, 136K, summed = 695K) and compare them to my single potential red number (640K)? Or is 640K the potential for each branch of research, meaning I am well short of my potential?

Also, when I add up my "actual output," it adds up to 695K total, more than my 640K "potential." I see I get a 4% bonus, but 640 + 4% does not equals 666 or so, not 695.

Do the numbers in black (1200K, etc.) indicate that I've dedicated far too many resources to research?

As you can see, I really don't understand these numbers. I've read and re-read the manual, and I still don't understand. Any help would be appreciated!




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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/11/2011 11:54:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		You had far too much research. (1200+400+625=) 2225k > 640k

If you wanted balanced research you could have built for example 300k in each category (215 in each to be precise but better to have some spare capacity).

Basically no matter how much research you built it could never exceed 640k.

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 12:09:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, that was a hell of AAR. Nice work Grotius!

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 1:38:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is a nice one.  Short and sweet.  Goes to show that galactic domination is not the only way to enjoy the game.

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 2:17:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, it is your total research capacity which is capped at 640k. So you were paying for more than three times the number of labs you were able to use. But at least you were doing maximum research.

The 695 is 640 +4%, plus the bonuses you had for Energy and High Tech research. Note that the bonuses are muliplicative and not additive. Numbers get rounded somewhere along the line too.

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 2:54:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey, good stuff! You put up a good fight. I liked the comparison to Return of the Jedi, lol.

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 4:15:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for your comments, guys! Heh, I had a feeling I had overdone the research. OK, now I know. :)

And yep, it was really fun to play a losing game. I'm going to start a new game with some tough initial settings. I like being the underdog.

Thanks again for reading!

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 4:58:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well played Grotius, I'm glad you stayed with it.

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 5:36:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		This was awesome to read! I love AAR's thanks for the entertainment!

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 7:09:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		AWWW... AAR was getting really interesting. Still, very good read and the battle with Shakturis was exciting.
Suggestion: Turn the territory victory conditon off in the next game. I personally never use this VC as it encourages colony rush and easily ruins interesting games. I find it Much more interestig when small but adavanced empires can be competitive with huge but relatively undeveloped empires.


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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 3:17:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, guys. J HG T, I like that idea. I already started a new game with all victory conditions on, but if and when I decide to start a different game, I'll try turning territory off. Good idea.

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 4:04:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		That was a damn fun read, and I'd say you did remarkably well for yourself, all things considered.  Thanks, Grotius! 




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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 5:16:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I hear ya. I've been toying with using only racial victory conditions lately. The one thing I'm not sure of is if there are any races with pretty mild racial victory conditions. I haven't checked for that myself. I did play the Quameno this way and was well on my way to a severe loss at third from the bottom. I was the most powerful empire in the galaxy, but had betrayed my 'peoples' ways and values in doing so. It was interesting. I was situated next to both the Gizureans and Boskarans. Wars were inevitable. In trying to counterbalance the Gizurean-Boskaran threat I started my own alliance with the Ackdarians and Shandars. So, I had wars going and treaties too, both of which are taboo as a Quameno.

Looking back, there could have been other choices to make than the ones I used. With a race as technologically savvy as the Quameno, commerce isn't as important, since a steady stream of sold technologies more than covers any cashflow shortfalls. Also, all that cash means lots of diplomatic options--even against the likes of the Boskarans. Certainly makes me want to have another go at it.

What a great game.


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Suggestion: Turn the territory victory conditon off in the next game. I personally never use this VC as it encourages colony rush and easily ruins interesting games. I find it Much more interestig when small but adavanced empires can be competitive with huge but relatively undeveloped empires.




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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 7:48:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the SPOILERS warning - I paused my reading of this but do look forward to returning to it once my own story line unfolds further.

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/12/2011 9:11:21 PM   
Grotius


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Status: offline 		Martok, thanks for reading! Your name is familiar. Klingon?

Grisha, I just started a game as the Quameno, but I didn't think of running with only racial victory conditions. What a great idea! Could make for a really interesting game.

Keston, I am indeed glad I added the spoiler warning. I hadn't realized how many "story elements" there were until I was well into the AAR.

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RE: Quick and nasty: a Securan story - 12/13/2011 12:15:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Grotius

Martok, thanks for reading! Your name is familiar. Klingon?

You are correct sir! I'm a big fan of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. :)





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