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ORIGINAL: witpqs

I don't know of any such bug, or it being fixed in the Beta. Perhaps I missed it.

You mentioned Vals getting 3.7% hit rate and SBDs getting 35% hit rate - I think people explained the Val issue pretty well. SBDs do hit well sometimes, but if you think it's a problem that they did then you could post all the relevant details, like pilot skills, etc.

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ORIGINAL: Treetop64

If things go poorly, it's the game's fault.

Where is the combat report data of this "even up CV fight"?, unless you're talking about the one in the "This is just wack..." thread. Most problems users experience can be traced to the misunderstanding and misapplication of resources in the game, as in the example shown in the "wack" thread, setting your DBs to a level bombing altitude.

Surely you must have figured that out by now - the "wack" thread is nearly a week old. Why are you posting about this issue again?

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ORIGINAL: guytipton41

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ORIGINAL: Treetop64

If things go poorly, it's the game's fault.

Where is the combat report data of this "even up CV fight"?, unless you're talking about the one in the "This is just wack..." thread. Most problems users experience can be traced to the misunderstanding and misapplication of resources in the game, as in the example shown in the "wack" thread, setting your DBs to a level bombing altitude.

Surely you must have figured that out by now - the "wack" thread is nearly a week old. Why are you posting about this issue again?

Hi Folks,

After I posted the 'wack' thread - millersan and I reran the combat six more times with various parameters changed - especially the Val altitude. We changed the number of TF, the range, %CAP (USN 20% CAP in one case) and CAP altitude. With the released version of the software the results were lopsided to very lopsided in every case. Six trials do not a statistical basis make, but they are a good leading indicator. We didn't keep good records of the trials, but with respect to IJN and USN pilots these are the game start pilots. (Which I assume are elite for the IJN).

Then we downloaded the Dec '12 beta and ran it again a few more times and the results are still pro-USN but much more balanced. It appears that letting the defense spending a hour setting up makes a significant difference.

Cheers,
Guy

Ps. The rough and tumble of internet posting maybe second nature to netziens, but some folks making a post to this forum might be making their 1st post ever. We don't want to scare off potential victims... I mean opponents.

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ORIGINAL: guytipton41

After I posted the 'wack' thread - millersan and I reran the combat six more times with various parameters changed - especially the Val altitude. We changed the number of TF, the range, %CAP (USN 20% CAP in one case) and CAP altitude. With the released version of the software the results were lopsided to very lopsided in every case. Six trials do not a statistical basis make, but they are a good leading indicator. We didn't keep good records of the trials, but with respect to IJN and USN pilots these are the game start pilots. (Which I assume are elite for the IJN).

Then we downloaded the Dec '12 beta and ran it again a few more times and the results are still pro-USN but much more balanced. It appears that letting the defense spending a hour setting up makes a significant difference.

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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

That does not mean much without knowing parameters. You can see from multitude of AARs that A2A works reasonably well in 80-90% of cases.

There are several ways to "screw up" and 60% of those can be traced to "problem between chair & keyboard, 40% for bad dice rolls". For example, having Vals to fly over 15k is classic way..since then they level bomb and rarely hit anything.

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ORIGINAL: FatR

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ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

That does not mean much without knowing parameters. You can see from multitude of AARs that A2A works reasonably well in 80-90% of cases.

There are several ways to "screw up" and 60% of those can be traced to "problem between chair & keyboard, 40% for bad dice rolls". For example, having Vals to fly over 15k is classic way..since then they level bomb and rarely hit anything.

Over 14k now, if this hasn't been mentioned in the thread yet. At some point of the beta divebombing altitude was changed.

"To meaningless French Idealism, Liberty, Fraternity and Equality...we answer with German Realism, Infantry, Cavalry and Artillery" -Prince von Bülov, 1870-

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ORIGINAL: mike scholl 1

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ORIGINAL: Treetop64

10,000 - 14,000 feet.

Which is rediculous, as the US Dive Bombers at Midway (perhaps the most successful dive bombing attach of the war) attacked from 17,000 feet.