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Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/27/2012 11:57:08 PM   
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Atlanta Class me thinks. Can't tell which one though.





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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 12:08:27 AM   
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No, I think those are 5"/38 in single mounts. I believe that is a Bagley Class DD

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 1:03:28 AM   
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No, those are twin 5" mounts. I wish we could see behind that officer to see if the wing mounts are there.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 1:23:40 AM   
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No, those are twin 5" mounts. I wish we could see behind that officer to see if the wing mounts are there.


Odd I looked at that image five times and didn't see the second gun.


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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 1:57:35 AM   
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Atlanta's has that row of distinctive round bridge portholes and tons of radar and antenna's. Might be the Atlanta. I believe she was built in Brooklyn (I can see the yard from work). Can't believe they sent these guys into knife fights in the slot, barley looks bigger than a destroyer. Guess you sent what you had

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 2:04:21 AM   
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Atlanta I think. Built in Kearny, NJ. Fitted out and commissioned in Brooklyn.




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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 2:59:48 AM   
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Indeed, it is the Atlanta, that is Margaret Mitchell in the middle.
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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 4:38:36 AM   
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Atlanta Class me thinks. Can't tell which one though.







Take a closer look. #3 5inch turret is rotated around so that it looks like a director.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 5:46:31 PM   
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Indeed, it is the Atlanta, that is Margaret Mitchell in the middle.
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If it's the ATLANTA, then where is the 3rd forward twin turret? I think it more likely a SUMNER class DD.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 5:51:00 PM   
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Indeed, it is the Atlanta, that is Margaret Mitchell in the middle.
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If it's the ATLANTA, then where is the 3rd forward twin turret? I think it more likely a SUMNER class DD.


Please READ the previous post. (Apparently we crossed). I answered your question.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 6:18:32 PM   
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Just in case it was missed.



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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 7:04:46 PM   
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Atlanta Class me thinks. Can't tell which one though.




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May I ask a question? Is the officer on the right steam powered? He has quite a lot of smoke pouring from his hat?

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 7:06:47 PM   
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Hahaha nice catch.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 8:23:23 PM   
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May I ask a question? Is the officer on the right steam powered? He has quite a lot of smoke pouring from his hat?


Probably he's still fuming with rage over Pearl Harbor.

Atlanta was the first USN warship commissioned after the attack.

IMO the most beautiful ship class of the era.


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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 8:45:51 PM   
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Agreed with AW1Steve here about turret 3... The probable reason for this position; is for barrel cleaning (A good-old pull though).

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 9:39:42 PM   
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Atlanta Class me thinks. Can't tell which one though.




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May I ask a question? Is the officer on the right steam powered? He has quite a lot of smoke pouring from his hat?


There is a steam powered crane from behind him. And from the blackness of the smoke, I'll bet that it's coal fired.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/28/2012 9:50:44 PM   
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Atlanta Class me thinks. Can't tell which one though.




Warspite1

May I ask a question? Is the officer on the right steam powered? He has quite a lot of smoke pouring from his hat?


There is a steam powered crane from behind him. And from the blackness of the smoke, I'll bet that it's coal fired.
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Oh, so I was wrong about the smoke coming from the officer's hat?


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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/29/2012 1:16:32 AM   
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Atlanta Class me thinks. Can't tell which one though.




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May I ask a question? Is the officer on the right steam powered? He has quite a lot of smoke pouring from his hat?


There is a steam powered crane from behind him. And from the blackness of the smoke, I'll bet that it's coal fired.
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Oh, so I was wrong about the smoke coming from the officer's hat?



You're right. I suppose his cover (What we former and current Naval types call a hat) could be on fire.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/29/2012 1:18:21 AM   
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Notice the Admiral and his flag Lt. (with his cover poetentially on fire) . And the censor removing the RADAR from the picture.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/29/2012 3:34:29 PM   
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Notice the Admiral and his flag Lt. (with his cover poetentially on fire) . And the censor removing the RADAR from the picture.


I also notice that the flag Lt. has moved from his traditional formation position into the lead, presumably to detect treacherous ice conditions for his Admiral.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/29/2012 6:26:00 PM   
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Notice the Admiral and his flag Lt. (with his cover poetentially on fire) . And the censor removing the RADAR from the picture.


I also notice that the flag Lt. has moved from his traditional formation position into the lead, presumably to detect treacherous ice conditions for his Admiral.
Warspite1

Yes, and as an added precaution the officer on the left has an ice-detection antenna protruding from his hat.

I think that is where the Royal Navy went wrong in WWII. Their US counterparts took far more interest in milinary military potential....

Only real criticism is that the gentleman on the left should not have his hands in his pockets while walking on ice - health and safety and all that.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/29/2012 9:02:59 PM   
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I think that is where the Royal Navy went wrong in WWII. Their US counterparts took far more interest in milinary military potential....

Sorry Sir, The English have us Yanks beat on hats every time:





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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/29/2012 9:08:20 PM   
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I think that is where the Royal Navy went wrong in WWII. Their US counterparts took far more interest in milinary military potential....

Sorry Sir, The English have us Yanks beat on hats every time:




Warspite1

What in the name of Bonaparte's balls is that!?!?!?

And the hat on top is pretty scary too!!!


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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/29/2012 11:38:05 PM   
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I think that is where the Royal Navy went wrong in WWII. Their US counterparts took far more interest in milinary military potential....

Sorry Sir, The English have us Yanks beat on hats every time:




Warspite1

What in the name of Bonaparte's balls is that!?!?!?

And the hat on top is pretty scary too!!!



That is Princess Beatrice, 5th in line for the Throne of England.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/30/2012 2:21:33 AM   
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I think that is where the Royal Navy went wrong in WWII. Their US counterparts took far more interest in milinary military potential....

Sorry Sir, The English have us Yanks beat on hats every time:




Warspite1

What in the name of Bonaparte's balls is that!?!?!?

And the hat on top is pretty scary too!!!



That is Princess Beatrice, 5th in line for the Throne of England.


No wonder they lost! English royalty hats were trumped by coonskin hats!

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/30/2012 2:38:29 AM   
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That hat is truly ugly.......

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/30/2012 2:39:26 AM   
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I don't think too much of the dress either but I am an engineer.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/30/2012 1:47:45 PM   
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In gods name, the designer of this hat should be hanged for treason.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/30/2012 2:04:05 PM   
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The picture appears pre-completion, although she is commissioned. She doesn't have her directors fitted. There should be a rangefinder mounted on top of the bridge and the director on a pedestal just forward of the mast. Her top masts weren't fitted either.

I know that the US sometimes commissioned ships without all of its equipment. Some ships even ran trials without some of their guns.

It is definitely the Atlanta based on the two-tone paint scheme and the shape of the hull where it meets the main deck.

Here is a picture of Atlanta around the same time period, but with all of her top masts and directors fitted...



You can see the paint scheme and that "knuckle" at the main deck in that picture.

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RE: Picture of a ship at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - 1/30/2012 2:31:49 PM   
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Here's another beauty, the USS Alaska (CB-1), taken on 30 July 1944 in the Philadelphia Naval Yard, barely a month after she had been commissioned. She was built in Camden, NJ by the New York Shipbuilding Corporation.



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